at Twitch and Floatplane Chat.
And welcome to the WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen.
We've got a fantastic show lined up for you guys today.
Man, was there ever a lot of tech news.
I mean, it's CES, right?
Sort of.
Have you seen any pictures?
Four things that are remotely interesting.
Have you seen any pictures from like the show?
I've seen, yeah, just like not many things there or people.
It's pretty dead, it's pretty dead.
There's not a lot of people there.
But definitely a lot of news.
You got your Wi-Fi 6 release 2.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
I was waiting for that.
We're gonna talk about that.
One of the second version of it.
Also, we've got Intel just freaking deciding
to be doing lots of stuff.
They fell asleep for like a decade
and now they're waking up just, what's going on?
They're flailing.
They're swinging, yeah.
In every direction, you better watch it.
You could get your jaw broke.
You make GPUs, blah.
What else we got today?
Nvidia is really, really shy about its RTX 3090 Ti.
Why so shy, Nvidia?
We're sorry, Ti.
I don't even want, never say that again on this show.
They clarified again.
Never say it.
Okay.
Never say, you know how many people take it seriously
when I say stuff like that to you?
Guys, we're just, I just wanna clarify, okay?
When I, like, oh man.
Like, it's insulting on so many levels.
On the one hand, it's insulting that people think
that I'm actually just a giant and on the other hand,
it's insulting that they think I'm stupid enough
to show that publicly if I was such a gigantic.
In recorded format.
Exactly, right?
Never say those words on this show.
I'm so sorry.
I'm joking. It'll never happen again.
And he's not sorry either.
He's gonna do it again.
What else have we got?
I mean, there's a few other things that happened
to the show, like a color changing phone
and a color changing car, but.
Okay, the color change car is pretty cool.
Yeah, but it's not in the dog.
I grabbed an article so we can share it anyways,
so I think it's pretty cool.
It is pretty cool.
But yeah, no, no, no, color changing car.
We'll just do it.
Let's roll that intro.
It's gonna be a real formal show.
It's all about the ties.
Hahahaha.
Oh my goodness.
Floatplane chat, I hate you so much.
What? Why?
OMG, Wiseline is telling Luke what to say.
This is like way too far.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough sponsors.
Squarespace.
Mint Mobile.
No way.
Mint Mobile's a sponsor?
Yeah.
Isn't that like Ryan Reynolds' thing?
I think so.
And FreshBooks too.
All right, cool.
I am officially, I'm officially, you know,
sponsored by my fellow Vancouver.
Holy crap.
Do you wanna curate some merch messages real quick?
Because they are flying in today.
Whoa, okay, yeah, I'm on it.
People figured out that we launched something today.
Why don't I talk through the Nvidia stuff since-
Or show it off.
That's our, oh, I mean, I guess I could do that.
It's a little early in the show to just be
shilling the merch. Is it?
They don't think so.
Okay, all right, I'll show the merch one second.
We just launched the Wants, the Wan pants.
Okay, they're like a jogger slash sweatpants kind of thing.
Hey, Luke's rocking them too.
They got the orange accents.
They fit my little truck butt.
Actually, yeah, that's pretty good.
They got the waterproof zipper.
They're sweatpants, so there's nothing else waterproof
about the garment.
We were just like, hey, waterproof zippers are sick,
so we're gonna put a YKK waterproof zipper on the butt.
I like that all the pockets zip up
because I find stuff falls out of sweatpants pockets
way too easily.
I have lost two pairs of AirPods Pros
because of sweatpants that don't have zippers on the pocket,
so that was something that I specifically asked for on these.
Yeah, that's huge for me.
That's actually, that's massive.
And then I actually finally have a response
to what the back pocket is for, okay?
So aside from the obvious joke that it's for your condoms,
because you're not having any sex,
it's for your earphones.
Okay, and it actually doesn't interfere
with where your butt sits in the chair.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, so there you go.
It's got a little zipper pocket in the back
for your earphones.
Good stuff, all right.
Let's talk about Nvidia.
Nvidia tries its best, and this is where the headline,
why you so shy Nvidia, why you so shy comes from.
They try their best not to talk about the RTX 3090 Ti.
Don't even do it.
It's officially Ti, okay.
And confirmed the RTX 3050.
So they unveiled their most powerful GPU ever
at CES on Tuesday,
but they talked about it for just 25 seconds
out of their 48 and a half minute presentation,
which was enough for us to find out the following.
It's got 40 shader teraflops, 78 rage-frasing teraflops,
320 tensor teraflops, 24 gigs of GDDR6 memory
at 21 gigabit per second.
And then rumors further suggest 10,752 CUDA cores,
1560 megahertz base, 1860 megahertz boost clocks,
and over one terabyte per second of memory bandwidth.
That's right, they have cracked the terabyte per second
memory bandwidth barrier, allegedly.
It's asking for 450 watts via either a PCIe Gen 5
16-pin 12 volt connector or two 12-pin Nvidia ones.
And it has an MSRP supposedly of 1699 US dollars.
The other thing that is not rumored,
but that they officially confirmed
is that it is pronounced Ti.
They are in fact incorrect.
Yes, that's right, I said it.
Nvidia is not correct about the name of their own product
because nobody ever, ever pronounced, okay,
the periodic element titanium Ti.
Nobody ever did that.
It is short for titanium
and nobody shortens titanium to Ti.
Ti also just sounds way cooler.
It does.
3080 Ti sounds lame, weak, not good.
It does.
3080 Ti sounds great.
It does, and it's like, I'm sorry.
You know, I know this is gonna be one of those things
where there's gonna be someone on Twitter
who goes Linus's arrogance on full display again,
imagine telling a company that they're wrong
about the name of their product.
But you gotta understand,
Ti is not a thing that Nvidia invented.
They did not create the periodic table of the elements.
They named their titanium card,
like how long ago was that?
Like 20 years ago.
They had the first Ti suffix card or something like that.
I can't remember exactly how long ago it was.
It was about that though.
And it was clearly titanium.
So why the retcon?
I don't get it.
You can't just change the story.
So I'm angry.
I'm angry.
And that's all I had to say about that.
I love how the majority of the,
they didn't really talk about this graphics card topic
was just being angry about the pronunciation of Ti.
Well, it's just unnecessary, you know?
Like, why?
I will point out that they always want it called Ti,
but I will never consistently call it Ti.
They do not always want it called Ti.
That is a new thing.
When they launched like 560 Ti, it was not Ti.
Was it really?
No.
Do you have like an actual clip of them saying Ti
for that launch?
Oh, lots of.
That would be very interesting.
More than half the people I know at Nvidia call it Ti.
Like if you're just on a conference call with them.
Almost actually, now that I think about it,
almost everyone I've ever talked to at Nvidia.
Everyone I know at Nvidia says Ti.
They say Ti because it obviously is.
It's just so stupid.
I wonder if this is a weird thing
where it's like actually a,
where it's some kind of like trademark battle
and they just can't publicly acknowledge it.
Like I know AMD, I can't remember what product it was,
but they had a super cool name for a product
and they ended up getting into some kind of dispute
with like a football team over it
because the football team had trademarked this term
in like digital media, in the digital media space
and technically gaming was kind of under the umbrella
of digital media.
So even though the odds of this football team
ever having any kind of conflicting product
that could actually be confused
for I don't even remember if it was a GPU or CPU
to be honest with you,
but the odds of them ever having a conflicting product
that could be confused is functionally zero.
But in order to avoid any kind of future dispute over it,
they ended up going with a completely different
stupider name for it.
And so what I actually kind of wonder is it could be,
is if it's an issue.
Someone's suggesting that it could be an issue
with Texas Instruments.
Does anyone call them TI?
TI-83?
Yeah, maybe that's the issue.
People definitely abbreviate that as TI for sure.
Like TI-83, TI-84 Plus, I think they've pretty much always,
and I think literally in the product name
at the top of the calculator, it says TI, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah, it does, yep.
So in the product name, it has TI,
that's pretty interesting.
So it could be, so then, okay, fine.
Maybe I acknowledge that this is something
maybe Nvidia has to do.
I mean, they also just don't have to have TI
in the product names at all.
They have lots of suffixes, they've used ultra.
You know what I'd love to see them return to?
Okay, you know how GTX went from being a suffix
to being a prefix, and then it was superseded by RTX?
Okay, hear me out.
The RTX 3090 GTX.
Just hug it.
I mean, if they're just gonna make up the rules
as they go along anyway, then who cares?
Just throw out the rule book.
I would have, this doesn't matter at all.
I wish they kept GTX in the front
and made RTX just an R at the end.
RTX just an R.
Wait, GTX.
GTX 3080 R.
Sounds cool, make the R red.
Yeah, make it red.
Yeah, I think red ain't happening at Nvidia anytime soon,
ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, that's probably fine.
You know, that's, oh man, we're gonna have to talk
about the stuff that launched at CES at some point,
but that kind of made me think.
How many people remember, okay,
you know how in the tech space you got team blue,
who's team blue?
Intel.
Okay, who's team green?
Nvidia.
Okay, who's team red?
AMD.
Okay, how many people remember that AMD used to be green?
Green, yeah.
Like, is it just me or is the color red
the most important thing they got out of the ATI acquisition?
I think it kind of is,
because yeah, the old AMD logo was green and black, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, essentially the same as Nvidia,
but it might call some team red, which is great.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
Just like, speaking of retcons, right?
It's like, no, no, no, we're team red.
We were red.
Don't worry about that.
I just, I just get a kick out of it.
Okay, we've got to talk about some other Nvidia stuff.
The wisdom of launching an RTX 3090 Ti
with a GA 102 is sort of questionable
considering the same GPU die is being used
for the already unobtainium RTX 3080, 3080 Ti, and 3090.
Which is probably a big part of the reason
why they kind of glossed over it at the presentation.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
It's probably going to be a nothing burger.
Even if they have additional fab capacity lined up,
people probably won't be happy
because I don't think there just is any.
The RTX 3050 on the other hand is a much easier sell
with the only question being,
where was the RTX 3050 six months ago?
It'll have eight gigs of GDDR6 memory,
nine shader teraflops, blah, blah, blah,
tensor, something, something.
Where's the CUDA core count?
Okay, I don't see it here.
But it's geared towards GTX 1050 owners
and really anyone looking for 60 FPS, 1080p gameplay.
You won't be able to run this card with RTX on, sorry.
You won't want to run this card with RTX on
since it's already a struggle on existing low end cards.
And Nvidia admits that it will require DLSS
to reach 60 FPS at 1080p.
But I am excited to see anything,
anything that is actually at an affordable price point
because as soon as people have something
that they can buy for $250 theoretically,
okay, MSRP to 249, January 27th availability.
Just to interrupt you for a second,
there's a super chat that I want to go through right now.
It says, and I'm quoting this perfectly.
Oh my God, Linus is showing his arrogance once again,
trying to tell Nvidia how their product name is pronounced.
Honestly.
I don't make the rules, okay?
That's how it's pronounced.
Sorry, you can keep going.
No one ever pronounced an element
by just saying it like that.
The first two letters of the word?
Yeah, exactly.
No one ever called chlorine clu, okay?
Nobody ever called bromine bruh.
Okay?
They should, they should not spromine bruh.
Aluminum is not al, okay?
Zinc.
Can we stop?
I swear, I'm done, I'm done talking about it.
So 3050, as soon as you can buy something modern, okay?
For $250, that basically invalidates
anything under $150 for older obsolete GPUs.
As soon as those start to come down in price,
it's a waterfall effect.
And that's what's really frustrating about all of this
is Nvidia and AMD know
that they could have delivered these lower end GPUs earlier
if they had really wanted to.
And they had justification to not do so
because they couldn't make enough
of the higher margin ones anyway.
So why would they introduce new products?
But that didn't stop them from introducing new products.
And if we're, from a gamer perspective,
gamers don't necessarily need the highest possible density.
They don't need higher performance density.
That's something that benefits miners
for whom there is an actual cost per slot.
And they want that sweet spot of power to,
however many hashes per second it'll run
to populate a slot with.
So producing low-end cards
is actually beneficial primarily for gamers
who only need one card to occupy one slot.
So if you can take a Silicon wafer
and you can slice it up into more pieces,
the odds that they will end up in the hands of gamers
become greater.
So I'm frustrated it didn't happen earlier,
but here it is now.
I don't know who we have to thank for this.
Did AMD pull the trigger first,
causing Nvidia to be like,
ooh, we should probably do this?
Is it pressure from Intel that is causing both AMD
and Nvidia to sit up and pay attention?
I don't know, but thank you very much Nvidia
for finally doing what we all needed you to do
a long time ago.
And I look forward to doing some budget builds for a change.
Yes.
It's been a long time
since we've been able to fire up a stream to be like,
hey, let's build a practical gaming rig
that makes any sense at a price that is palatable.
And I'm jazzed.
I'm jazzed.
I hope it actually freaking happens.
Me too.
Why don't we move on to our next topic for the day?
What do you want to do next?
I think I'm kind of relegated to merch messages, duty.
Have you taken a look at all?
Holy crap balls.
I'm working on it.
I'm trying.
Holy crap.
Okay.
There's some news actually.
Okay, here, why don't I do merch messages for a bit?
Okay, yeah, I've got some cool news.
There's a new,
there's actually a few new full plane features.
Most of them are streaming related.
Most of them are backend for streaming related stuff.
So it's just better, hooray.
But also there's a cool new feature
that LTT is going to have to start using.
So I'm going to have to do an educational thing.
I'll probably send an email out over the weekend
or something so that people are ready for it next week.
But there's now a tagging system.
People have been asking for this for a while.
Once we stopped doing early access
on float plane for LTT,
exclusive started taking more of a main stage
and there hasn't been a way to look for them specifically.
Now there is.
So there's a tagging system specifically for videos
that are out, that is out now.
It's not the absolute coolest thing ever because-
Wow, what a sales pitch.
You can search for it and the creator can tag it.
Chief technology officer, float plane media.
But it's not the greatest thing.
But the really cool version is coming down the line
where channels on float plane will have sub channels.
So there will be a sub channel for tech quickie,
for tech linked, for everything.
And exclusives will be able to have a sub channel there
that will make it very, very easy to sort
and see through things in the short term though,
there is this exclusive tagging thing.
So you can either click on the tag
or you can search hashtag exclusives
or honestly, whatever you guys want to call it.
Cool.
And then, yeah, that's good.
Also new creator on float plane.
There's a new creator this week.
There's also probably going to be a new creator next week.
But the new creator that I'm talking about this week
is garbage time, also known as dank pods.
If you've watched that on the YouTubes,
he's doing some actually really cool music streams
where he plays mostly like meme songs
and then he drums along with it.
He used to be a professional gigging musician.
He's very good.
It's actually been really entertaining to watch those.
So check it out if you're interested.
There's probably a lot of people in the chat
that have heard of dank pods because he's pretty awesome.
The chat's exploding right now, pretty much.
He's great.
I've had a bunch of conversations with him.
He's actually like a genuinely just like really cool
and wholesome dude.
And I'm stoked to have him on the platform.
So yeah.
This is insane.
I can barely stay on top of it.
That's yeah.
That's what I was doing the whole time
you're doing the Nvidia conversation.
Okay.
So yeah.
Anyways, also probably new creator joining next week
and yeah, things are good.
All right, cool.
Why don't we jump into our next topic of the day?
Intel is a contender again.
They've got their Arc GPUs.
They've got the 12,900 KS and more.
So they're already shipping their GPUs to OEMs
which means we're gonna see them integrated
into add in boards as well as laptops.
50 designs expected in Q1.
Pretty awesome.
So what were you gonna say?
One quick thing to add about the dank pods thing.
Flowplane has really good audio quality.
That is actually a big benefit.
It's a music stream.
It sounds great.
So if you're into that, that's the thing.
Sorry, keep going.
All right, cool.
I'm gonna keep talking now.
Arc Alchemist is built on TSMC's N6 process
which is currently relatively clear of GPUs.
That's honestly, in my opinion
the most exciting thing about this.
We're expecting Arc Alchemist
to be a relatively mainstream tier GPU.
And again, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about sheer quantity of GPUs.
That's how you drive down the demand
which is how you drive down the prices.
You get GPUs in the hands of gamers
who need them to play games.
So it's built on the N6 process
which is completely untapped for GPUs at this time.
So this is net new capacity.
The new GPUs will be able to work in tandem
with integrated Xe graphics to split up workloads
such as Intel's example of exporting video
and DaVinci Resolve accelerating the process by 40%.
They weren't done with high end 12th gen core though.
They've got a new 12900K SQ
and you know what I love most about the KS?
Okay, this is a binge 12900K
that can do 5.5 gigahertz single core
and over five gigahertz all core boost
out of the freaking box.
It's cool.
But this is obviously something
that Intel wouldn't have bothered to do
if they didn't feel like they had to.
Isn't competition wonderful ladies and gentlemen?
It's good.
We don't know exactly what to expect
in terms of performance from AMD's Ryzen 7 5800 X3D
but they claimed that it will be
the world's fastest gaming processor,
that it is due out this spring
and clearly those claims are credible enough sounding
that Intel felt the need to respond.
I love this.
I mean, if GPUs hadn't been such an absolute
over the last couple of years,
this would have actually been
one of the most exciting periods in tech
in recent memory.
If GPUs were purchasable, that's it.
That's it.
It would be amazing.
That's it.
And there would be games
that would actually push the hardware
and it would have been an amazing,
yeah, would have been great.
Okay, we got to talk about that a little bit later.
I know what you're referring to is Halo Infinite
and I've got something really cool to show you
that is sort of Halo Infinite related.
Just remind me later.
It's that thing that I was pointing to
over in my bag over there.
So super excited for the KS,
not that excited for pricing.
That's one thing that has happened in the CPU space
is as Intel and AMD are absolutely pushing the limits
of what they can build and what they can bin for.
We're definitely seeing prices creep up a little bit.
AMD's also got the swagger
to actually price their products, you know,
expensively now.
I've seen some sort of controversy even
around AMD's decision to make their 3D V-cache
exclusive to the 5800 tier rather than doing a 5600.
I think that's an example of AMD optimizing for business
rather than necessarily for the consumer.
I think it's a fair enough criticism,
but I also am a big enough fan of the 5800X
that it doesn't really bother me that much
to be honest with you.
I think that if you are serious about gaming,
not just today, but tomorrow,
the 5800X is a really,
I think it is worth the extra layout.
That's basically what I'll say about it.
Don't feel bad if you go with the 5600X
and to be clear, AM4, dead platform.
And if anything, if I was buying into AM4 today,
I would probably cheap out.
I'd probably go rise in 3000.
Okay.
And I would just, I'd wait it out.
I'd go rise in 3000 today and then I'd sit.
I'd wait for later on this year
when AM5 is supposed to come out with support for DDR5,
with Zen 4, with all this hyper exciting new tech.
I'd wait for all those rich kids to go out and buy AM5.
And then I'd pick up those,
I'd pick up a 5900X or something even.
I'd go treat myself because I'm basically getting it
for a fraction of the price.
I mean, that was always my jam.
When I knew a platform was dead end,
I was always waiting for,
I was always waiting to pounce on it
for when the next new thing came out.
And what's so exciting is that things are changing so fast.
Things are changing so fast that you can actually
plan ahead to that degree again.
I mean, there was a time when you would have heard from me.
I would have said, don't even think about the future.
Just buy whatever's in front of you today
because realistically the next one's not gonna be
that much better anyway.
Right though?
It's true, it's true.
It's so frustrating.
So really, really excited to see how the heavyweight battle,
or I guess you could call this more of like a middleweight,
middleweight battle between the 12900KS
and the 5800X3D turns out.
We've also gotten non-K Alder Lake SKUs.
I mean, these are honestly speaking,
the real game changer for 12th gen.
It's great to take back the performance crown.
You know, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, no matter who you are,
Apple, you want the performance crown.
It's such an important marketing piece.
It's one of the reasons that, you know,
Tesla never shuts up about their zero to 60 times,
for example, because even though personally,
I think the benefit of a Tesla is so-
Not the zero to 60 times.
Yeah, I mean, they have competitive ranges.
They've got the media console,
they've got the over the air updates,
they've got all these other reasons, right?
What was the old car thing?
The safety.
It was like podium cell cars or something.
It's like why all the car manufacturers
used to be in all the races.
Winning races sold cars,
but I don't remember exactly how they said it.
I don't remember.
It was like horsepower sells cars.
Something.
And that like torque.
Yeah, I don't know.
Something podiums.
I'm sure someone's going to correct us, but yeah.
It's not that important from necessarily a sales standpoint,
directly to have the performance crown,
but it's really important from a marketing standpoint,
because if you have the thousand dollar CPU
that is the best one,
there's this perception that you make great products.
And if I only have $200 to spend,
then I'm going to get one fifth of that greatness.
Like that's the customer perception.
So what is it?
Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, Twitch chat says.
Yeah. That was it.
Yeah.
Win Sunday, sell Monday.
All right.
Okay. Got it.
Yep. All right.
Cool.
So right.
12th gen though.
No, I mean, who's actually spending five, $600 on a CPU.
I mean, I did that once in the entire time,
the entire time that I have been a PC gaming enthusiast,
which is most of my life,
which is kind of scary to think about now.
Like actually most of the majority of my life,
I spent 700 Canadian.
Okay.
One CPU.
So that was 550 US or something like that.
I spent $700 Canadian on a CPU once.
I kept it fairly long-term.
I kept it long-term.
So I kept it until there was like an ill kept secret,
like enthusiast one that you should get instead.
And then I flipped the, like, you know,
the consumer one that everyone knew about for quite a bit.
And then I actually ended up saving some money
and getting more performance
because it's supposed to be overclockable.
So the one time I spent that kind of money on a CPU,
it was a revolutionary chip.
Okay. I bought a 4,400 plus,
the Athlon X2 4,400 plus.
And dual core, absolute game changer.
Guys, it was double the performance in certain applications,
literally double.
And then aside from that, they also,
AMD also had the best single threaded performance
at the time.
It was zero compromises.
It had all that cash.
It was either a meg of cash or a meg of cash per core.
I can't remember anymore.
It's minor details.
And then I didn't get rid of it
because it was the king for a long time.
You could overclock that thing to be equivalent
to the 4,800 plus, which was like way more expensive,
way outside my price range at that time.
And I didn't upgrade it until I got an Optron 165.
So the AMD was selling their Optron server chips
on the desktop socket and you could just like get them.
And they were like supposed to be more binned
or overclockable or something.
I think that was all nonsense anyway, in retrospect.
But I just, I got one of those for cheap
and then I sold my 4,400 plus for more.
So I got like the same performance or better actually.
I think my 165 was actually more overclockable
than my 4,400 plus.
So that was the route that I went.
But that is the only time in my life
I ever spent that kind of money on a CPU.
And when you look at the difference in performance today
with the release of the rest of Intel's 12th gen core lineup
you look at the difference between spending 300 or 350 bucks
and spending $600.
It is nothing like it was back then.
Like you get a dual core at all at that time,
you had to spend that kind of money
because they were the cutting edge, right?
Even the cheapest one, okay?
The 4,200 plus was only marginally cheaper than the 44.
Whereas now you can get the vast majority
of the performance for a fraction of the price.
So you should.
So as much as we do a lot of showcase builds
core I9s, that's not what most people are buying.
It's just that having that flagship
hold the performance crown in some key application
or be it gaming.
I mean, there's a big one obviously in the consumer space
is so important because it means that regardless
of what the real performance numbers are
you're gonna sell way more of those lower tier SKUs.
So that's what AMD and Intel and Nvidia for that matter
are after.
You know, the most I ever spent on a CPU
I think was sub $200.
Really?
Because of the most Intel retail edge programs.
Good old retail edge.
Yeah.
I just abused that as much as I could.
Cause if I remember correctly,
I got one of those off of a friend before I worked there.
And then once I started working there, I got them.
And then after I had worked there, you know,
the whole told you that story before.
So yeah, that's the thing.
Birch messages are just absolutely still popping off.
I know it's crazy.
I'm trying to stay on top of them a little bit,
but it's, it's really hard.
There's a, there's a freaking ton of them.
I can't, I can't stay on top of it.
Okay.
Color changing car.
Let's talk about the color changing car.
You're gonna bring this up on your screen.
Cause this thing looks freaking incredible.
I mean, it's something that conceptually
I think has been talked about before,
but I don't think anyone has ever done anything
quite like this.
Yeah, it's, this is not the GIF.
I don't know if there's.
Oh, you got to find the heck.
You got to find it, Luke.
I want to find the GIF.
Yeah. But it, it, it, it is able to change colors.
They, they paired up with E paper, E inks, prism E paper.
They made essentially displays that go across the,
the outside of the car and it can change colors here.
We've got a video.
Oh, I think I've got the, here it is.
I've got it.
Nice.
Here it is.
Check this out.
Oh yeah, there you go.
That is so cool.
So you could basically just be like, ah, you know what?
I'm a go with the white car today.
This has got to be featured in a heist movie, right?
That's gotta be.
Oh, that's so cool.
I love that.
Yeah.
I mean, they could even just do it like digitally now.
They wouldn't even need a car that actually
has the technology built into it.
Right.
But at least like it's, it's possible.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now, I mean, I guess.
It's technically believable
if you see it in a heist movie now.
Yeah.
I freaking love it.
I think it looks really cool.
Or like James Q, Q gets James Bond a new car
that's able to like chameleon color itself.
I do have to wonder, you know,
what something like this would cost right now.
This is only a concept car.
Have you ever looked into buying E ink displays?
No.
It's so expensive.
Really?
I saw someone did a project where they,
they curated like various newspaper feeds
from around the internet and they would have it show up
on an ink display in their bathroom in the morning.
And I was like, that's actually like kind of cool.
I wonder like what other projects
we could do with ink displays.
And I was thinking about stuff for myself,
but I was also thinking like,
maybe we could do a video about it, whatever.
And then if I remember correctly,
a standard monitor sized ink display
was like thousands of dollars.
Like it was really expensive.
I would not have expected that.
I would have thought that they were actually
kind of like cheap-ish.
Let me, let me look into it really quick.
Cause the only places you really see them deployed
in any kind of volume are like e-readers.
And those are generally pretty affordable types of devices.
Then again, compared to a cheap tablet
that does not use an ink display,
a Kobo reader or a Kindle is actually not that cheap.
Now that I think about it for the,
for the tier of hardware that they have inside them,
like the processing power that they have.
Yeah.
So I guess, I guess it kind of makes sense.
I just, it's just one of those things that I never,
like as a gamer, you know,
like I never really cared about.
It didn't matter to me.
Yeah. I'm finding a lot of conflicting stuff.
Chad is saying that monochrome is cheap.
Color gets really expensive.
I also just found an article that was posted actually like
somewhat recently, like it was posted in, in, in 2021.
Last year, last year.
But it's like a 24 inch monitor or something.
25 inch ink display. It's $1,500.
Yeah. I got your screen here.
Really?
Yeah.
There's finally, I love the word finally there.
It's finally a 25 inch ink for extreme readers.
Yeah.
I, I, that's ridiculous to me.
Yeah.
Uh, A-Gen in the float plane chat says that BMW,
when it gets a ding from a grocery cart.
And part of the, part of the display shop's working.
Oh, brutal.
Cause it probably, I'm assuming like backend wise,
it probably has, what, what,
what were they called when you were doing your big wall TV?
Ah.
The squares?
Oh, micro LED?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Like each square was called something.
Oh, like a module?
Yeah. I'm assuming it's in modules.
Oh, okay.
So like you get dinged by a cart in one module,
just bew.
That'd be unfortunate.
I have no idea.
I haven't read into like how it exactly goes on the car or
anything, but it's really cool.
This is, this is probably one of the most like visually
interesting things that happened at the show.
There's also a phone where the body color of the phone
changes when it's exposed to sunlight.
I believe, I don't know.
They said the tech took two years to make.
It's probably highly related to Transitions Glasses,
how those work.
Yeah.
Because it's exposed to sunlight for 30 seconds,
which is an extremely similar metric to Transitions Glasses.
Yeah.
And it's probably a glass back if I'm guessing.
Yeah. That sounds like that probably took two years
because it like wasn't a major priority.
Yeah.
But it's kind of neat.
Yeah. That's definitely cool.
I'd be into that.
Yeah. Me too.
So that's kind of cool.
There was some cool chameleon color changing things that,
that happened at CES and not a ton else because CES was even
worse this year than I think it has ever previously been.
And that has been quite the trend.
I'm so glad I didn't have to go.
This is two years in a row now.
I have not had to go to CES.
It's been validating,
seeing like really old media talking about how CES has been
getting worse for the last little while.
Because when we first went,
I actually thought it was like amazing.
And like, okay, I didn't like Las Vegas.
No, Luke's not a big Vegas guy.
No.
Yeah.
But like the show was fantastic. Right?
And then we're there for quite a while and I'm like, okay,
am I just getting sour?
Like, have I just done this too much?
And now I don't care anymore.
But like, I think, yeah, I think the show's just worse.
I think that's honestly what's happening.
Cause I remember like the first couple of years we were
there, you could walk around the show floor and just content
would just happen.
Cause you'd walk past some booth and you're like, yeah,
that's crazy.
Let's film that.
And now it's like, well,
there's 47,000 phone cases and 82,000 vacuums.
So that's cool.
When the, when the phone cases took over CES.
That was a bad year.
It was not cool.
No, not cool.
Man. What are some of those?
What are some of those phone case companies that were just
like enormous?
They would have these like gigantic booths.
I can't even remember anymore because no one cares.
Multiple floors.
Yeah. Like phone cases are just commodity at this point.
Yeah.
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Jake said that it's less painless these days,
bought a new phone in cash
and Rogers came and dropped it off at my door,
was pretty nice actually.
Okay, I've got so many questions about this.
You know, why does Jake need to be like
buying phones in cash?
Number two, I know for a fact that
Jake has a company phone plan,
so is this your dealer phone, Jake?
You know what, you know what, it's fine, it's fine.
I don't even, we don't have to talk about that.
Let's talk instead about Wi-Fi 7.
JK Wi-Fi 6 release 2.
Nice, version four.
Yeah, so there's some notes here.
Wi-Fi 6 adoption has outpaced previous generations.
I mean, that's easier when you just redefine everything
as Wi-Fi 6.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.
Wi-Fi certified 6 release 2 is the latest certification
from the Wi-Fi Alliance.
It supports uplink multi-user mobile input output,
not mobile, multiple input output, so multi-user MIMO,
which means it'll have like better support
for more Wi-Fi 6 devices entering the market
because they'll have more of them
connected to APs at a time and it'll help balance them.
Supports new low power and sleep mode enhancements,
including broadcast target wake time,
extended sleep mode,
and dynamic multi-user spatial multiplexing power save.
Wow, sounds honestly-
That's a lot of words.
This is that whole thing where like the difference
between a sufficiently complex science and magic
is indistinguishable.
That honestly is just Wi-Fi in general for me.
Some of the stuff it does where it's like, yeah, okay,
so I can have like these spatial streams
and this one's like direct
and this one's gonna bounce off the couch
and like hit the ceiling and go there.
So I need to make sure I time the transmission
so that they're all gonna arrive at the same time.
Like what?
Anyway, release two's features
apply across all the supported bands.
So that's 2.4 gigahertz, five gigahertz, and six gigahertz.
And Wi-Fi 6 release two is more of an enhancement
for Wi-Fi 6 and Wi-Fi 6E, not a replacement for them.
So now we've got the USB mess,
we've got the HDMI mess, and we've got the Wi-Fi mesh.
I quit.
I've got so many merch messages.
It probably wouldn't even matter.
I could just carry the whole show.
It's painful.
It's painful, man.
I just don't know.
I don't know what to say.
Like honestly, the HDMI one in particular.
So if you guys haven't been paying attention, HDMI 2.1.
Oh shoot, no, it's HDMI 2.1A now.
So first they retconned HDMI 2.0.
All HDMI 2.0 devices and 2.1 devices became HDMI 2.1.
Now they've retconned that and they are all HDMI 2.1A.
And then all of what we previously understood
to be the features of 2.0, 2.1, and 2.1A,
which do actually, according to the old way of thinking,
have unique features to them.
All of those are now considered to be optional features
of the new consolidated HDMI 2.1 spec.
This clearly serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever
other than to help unscrupulous manufacturers
deceive consumers.
That is the literal only possible reason
that this can exist.
That's it.
And the craziest part is it's at the point
where I've had manufacturers that don't like this
reach out to me and go, do you know anything about this?
Like, are we seriously gonna have to certify HDMI 2.0 ports
as HDMI 2.1A, but only supporting 18 gigabit per second
transfer rates so they can't do 4K 120?
Like, is that actually how this works?
Do you know, do you have any idea what's going on right now?
And to give you an idea of why this is so stupid,
there's devices where it might not be that meaningful, okay?
So something like an Xbox Series X, right?
In terms of the understood functionality,
I think this is a gaming device
where I think people are going to look at the spec sheet.
They're gonna go, okay, it supports 4K 120,
or does it do 8K 60?
I can't remember, it doesn't matter.
The point is it does 4K 120, right?
And so they're gonna know to look for that.
But let's take something like an Apple MacBook M1.
The MacBook M1 is only HDMI 2.0,
which was a point of contention
with the computer community as a whole,
because they were like, oh, hey,
that's actually not very future proof
in terms of connecting external high resolution displays
to this thing, that actually kind of bites.
And so now all of a sudden when Apple refreshes
the M1 MacBook, even if they don't update that HDMI port
to support greater bandwidth,
it will still now magically be the MacBook with HDMI 2.1A.
It's gonna be so confusing.
I mean, it was already confusing enough, right?
When you had HDMI ports that only did 4K 30 Hertz, right?
Back during the transition from 1.4 to 2.0.
It was really rough, it was really rough.
You had to really dig into the spec sheet
or even ask the manufacturer something,
hey, is this 1.4 or 2.0?
Well, now there doesn't even exist terminology
to properly find out what's going on.
Okay, okay, there it does.
But I can't even remember what it is.
I read an article about it the other day.
It's some type of signaling coding
that you have to ask if it supports
so that you'll know if it'll do up to 48 gigabit per second.
And the craziest part is you can even have devices
that support that type of signaling coding
like LG had their, oh, shoot, what generation was it?
Was it the 1 series or the X series?
I think it's the 1 series.
But they had a generation of TVs
that didn't support the full maximum bandwidth of HDMI 2.1
even though it supported most of it.
So I just, I can't fathom how we think
that moving backwards and making spec names
not mean anything is helpful in any way whatsoever.
I'm sorry, I'm getting a little passionate here.
I mean, I'm pretty sure we've actually been talking
about this type of like naming scheme problem
on Wensho since Wensho started.
So what you're saying is it's not getting better.
No, it's potentially getting worse.
I don't know, this last year has felt really bad
because of the big three that you just talked about.
I feel like it was actually maybe getting
a little bit better in kind of the middle there,
but recently it's been really taking a downturn.
Well, all right, what do you wanna talk about next?
Potentially merch messages?
I mean, I guess we could do that, sure.
Destroyer Samuel says DisplayPort for the win.
Yeah, DisplayPort is our-
It's holding out.
Our last hope, our last hope.
All right, yeah, let's do some merch messages.
So you go to the curated section.
And you keep managing the incoming ones?
I'll keep going with incoming, yeah.
Okay, this is insane.
All right, Lauren.
Hey Linus, I'm a middle school technology teacher.
I teach coding, robotics, 3D printing
and computer applications.
In your opinion, what do middle schoolers
need to learn about computers?
Coding, applications, hardware.
Oh man, so this could be so much of a deeper conversation.
I could, man, I could talk about this one for hours,
but personally I think that we should do a lot more
to streamline learning at the secondary school level.
I think that here in,
I'm assuming that you're in North America with me.
You might not be, but some countries already do this.
But I do think that students should be sorted
based on aptitude and desire, of course.
I mean, these are choices.
We shouldn't just be making them for people.
But students should be sorted based on aptitude and desire
and a little bit more focused.
The cold hard truth is not everybody needs to know
how to calculate the molar mass of some chemical
that gets combined in a reaction with some other chemical
and what it makes.
I have never, never needed to know that in my adult life.
Me neither, and if I did, I'd look it up.
You would look it up or you would just find a guide
or a calculator or whatever the case may be.
So there's a lot of stuff.
And I'm not saying that I don't appreciate
the education I got.
There's a lot of stuff that I did learn.
I mean, even like that, that gives me the background
that I need to understand an article that I'm reading
about something that might not even be directly related.
Like it's super valuable, but I think for the vast majority
of the population that will not come up even once
between the day they turn 18 and reach adulthood
and the day they turn 88 and die.
Like it just, it is very unlikely.
And-
It seems to be said about being able to kind of graze
across a bunch of topics.
Yeah.
But I think there's a different way to do it.
I do think there's a different way to do it.
And I think that there's a lot of stuff
that I didn't learn in school that I'm really frustrated
that I didn't.
And I think, honestly, I think a big part of the problem,
Jake's talking about how to do their taxes.
Heck yeah.
I think a big part of the problem is that teachers
and educators more generally have a bit of a bias
towards education, peer education for the sake of education.
And so I think that because these are people
who spent their lives learning molar masses
or learning how to calculate and draw out
all the different forces interacting on an object
or whatever the case may be.
I think because they spend their lives pursuing
that type of knowledge and they don't necessarily,
and they didn't necessarily become experts
on things like personal tax planning,
those types of topics basically functionally
do not get covered, at least here in BC, Canada,
20 years ago when I was actually in school.
So take this for the outdated and region specific rant
that it is, but I think that long story short,
coming back to your question,
it really depends on what they want to do with their life
because asking like, okay.
And everyone needs to learn how to code.
And you can code, you can be a great programmer
and basically not give two hoots about the hardware side.
You have to kind of understand how a computer works,
but I mean, they have hardware engineers for that.
Like that's what those guys do.
They and the firmware folks will create the API
that your program will interact with
and it ain't your problem.
And the better you understand how the hardware works,
maybe the more of a superstar programmer you can become.
At the same time, if you're wanting to become
some form of engineer,
like a certain level of understanding about development
is probably going to be good,
but that's a different type and level of learning
than someone who wants to become like a software engineer
a computer scientist would undergo.
And then you ask about applications.
I would say that if you want to get into media production,
for example, or you want to get into the film industry,
you should focus 100% of your time on applications
and you don't need to know basically anything other than,
I mean, I think a little bit of knowledge of scripting
would probably be valuable on the coding side.
Being able to recognize that this kind of configuration
is more optimal for running my application
than this other kind of configuration,
but you should spend pretty much all of your time
mastering the tools that you're actually gonna use
for your job.
So that's the short answer is it really is student dependent.
I've-
By the way, your job sounds super cool.
I always thought it was interesting.
Like I had this home ec class that I had to take
and it was sewing, cooking.
I feel like there was something else.
Drama.
Art.
Art.
Okay.
Maybe.
We had two of those.
We had one where you did like drama, woodshop
and something else.
And we had one where you did art, sewing and cooking.
Yeah, we had sewing, cooking, and I think maybe art.
And then we had woodwork, metalwork and shop.
And I really liked the idea of doing the woodwork,
metalwork and shop one.
And I think electronics was in that as well.
But the other one, I was like, you know what?
I got nothing against them.
There is no way I'm gonna grow up
to be someone who sews things.
He knows who he is, okay ladies and gentlemen?
Yes.
That was probably one of the lowest grades
I've ever gotten in a class.
Man knows himself.
I was really bad at it even when I was trying.
And I had to try at least a little bit
because I would have failed.
Like it was a problem.
The cooking one, I was like, okay,
I can cook what I need to cook.
I'm not gonna become a chef.
I actually really like cooking.
But I don't think working in a kitchen would be my thing.
So whatever.
Like I knew all of this when I was in grade eight
when they made me take the course.
And I remember thinking in grade eight,
like I know this.
This isn't a question.
This isn't a possibility.
I'm going to waste an entire semester in this one class.
Completely waste it because it's never gonna matter.
I know how to cook.
I didn't learn any of it from that class.
I have never needed to sow something.
And if I did, I would take it to someone
who is significantly better at it than I am.
What if they had a class at that time
that had focused on seductive cooking?
We talked about this on a previous WAN show.
I feel like that wouldn't fly in like a high school.
Oh man.
I feel like the kids in the high school
would probably find that more useful.
So anyway.
Anonymous asks, are there any VR projects
you guys are looking forward to in 2022?
Honestly, all I do is play Beat Saber.
So I heard that meta's attempt at like virtual,
like kind of a VR chat competitor
basically immediately turned into all the same problems
that VR chat has.
Nice, perfect.
So I kind of laughed about that.
Definitely saw that coming.
Other than that, I mean,
I'm always hoping for better headsets.
If something at the quality and refresh rate of the index
could be wireless.
Could be wireless.
That'd be super cool.
That's the big waiting for it.
Yeah.
Quest two's not quite there.
I'm also extra ready for a high refresh rate,
high resolution OLED display.
It's very noticeable,
like far more than on a gaming monitor.
The smearing as you're looking around
is extremely noticeable,
even on the highest end headsets today.
So there's nothing specific that I can think of,
but that comes to mind.
Ben says, hi Linus and Luke.
I recently got an 8K TV
and I struggle to find content besides YouTube.
Would you consider uploading in 8K
or would there be a bottleneck in your workflow
if you were to do so?
We actually recently downgraded our cameras.
We are now shooting on FX3s and FX6s,
which are 4K cameras rather than our reds,
the vast majority of the time.
We still shoot some stuff on red,
but we export everything at 4K
because the reality of it is you are more limited
by the bit rate that YouTube delivers
than by the number of pixels
that you're packing into your exported file.
So you should,
we could still export them in 8K
and we could upload them as 8K.
It would be a little disruptive to the workflow,
but the main reason,
but you would probably still get a benefit
to the picture quality
because it would serve you a higher bit rate.
Really though for us,
we want to solve HDR before we bother moving to 8K
because from a perception standpoint,
it makes a larger difference to the quality
than just upping the resolution in my opinion.
So Jake actually pointed out and I forgot about this,
but it's totally true.
I have this valve lanyard that I've liked for a long time
and it fell apart.
The threading completely lost it.
And Jake was like, I was like,
oh no, I'm sad this is garbage now
because despite taking one course of sewing,
I probably can't sew these like two extremely basic pieces
of fabric together.
That's kind of sad.
Jake took it home to his mom and it's holding up still.
It was great.
So like, yeah, I got nothing from that class.
There's very few things in my life
that I will not try to fix if they break.
And that broke and I was immediately like,
guess it's garbage and taking that class would not have,
yeah, that did not save me.
There's a lot of people asking,
when will the matching WAN hoodies be back on the site
so I can get the rest of the set?
Okay.
There's also a question coming up that asked about
like this color, the color of the indoor jacket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're wondering if there was gonna be pants
that match that type of color.
Ah, ooh, I don't think we have it in the plan.
Unfortunately, yeah, I don't think
that's in the plan right now.
Let me just check my email from Nick
and I will get you the answer
because Nick keeps track of all this stuff.
Oh, this is, oh yeah, this is the one.
WAN hoodie and SWAKIT containers are in the port now,
but they are not unloaded from the vessel yet.
This is as of yesterday.
Okay.
So, a month?
Who knows?
Who knows?
I don't know.
It will probably get taken off the vessel
and put in a warehouse temporarily.
No, it'll just be hucked in a field somewhere.
Oh.
Because it's a container, right?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
So yeah, if you wanted to search through
every just in storage container in the Lower Mainland,
you might find one for free, but don't do that.
Don't do that.
That's a crime.
Yeah, it's like very criminal.
But yeah, theoretically when it's at that stage,
we could be launching it next week, theoretically,
but that just is not the way that things have worked out.
It's been taking weeks, it's been incredibly frustrating,
so we'll get them as soon as we can.
There's a lot of people who asked about that,
so I think that's gonna address
a lot of the merge messages people sent.
Karen G asks, thoughts on a liquid metal,
possibly mercury water cooling or liquid cooling loop.
Obviously not good for daily driving.
So we threw around the idea actually before.
The concern with mercury is that it eats things, for one.
Concern number two is that it's highly toxic.
Concern number three is that when you heat it,
it gets out into the air.
So we will never do that.
But cool idea, definitely love the idea.
It's just that in the real world, it just don't work that way.
Peter H, when are we expecting the screwdriver
and bag to cost exactly?
Gotta have gift cards ready so that when I buy them,
it doesn't hit my wallet so hard.
All right, I'm speaking way out of turn here
because these are decisions that I make alongside Nicklight.
But my expectation is that the screwdriver
will be somewhere in the-
Noncommittal.
Yeah, this is not a commitment.
The screwdriver will be somewhere in the $70 range
for the standard edition, 70 US.
Okay, that's for the standard edition.
It is possible there will be other additions
that are available for more.
I would love to do like a Lux screwdriver.
And I've got some ideas for what that might look like.
It's just, it's like the stupidest stuff ever, guys.
Like it's one of those things where with a straight face,
I could never tell you buy this,
but I just wanna make it cause it's really cool.
This is what happens when you put like
some idiot YouTube influencer
in charge of your product development.
It's like, oh yes, make it so, make it so.
And like the engineers are just like, really?
As for the backpack,
I expect it to be somewhere in the neighborhood
of 250 to 300 US dollars.
It will not be cheap.
Quality.
But it's awesome.
I absolutely love it.
I've been daily driving it.
Yeah, it's really great.
So they're gonna hurt the wallet, I promise it,
but they're gonna be awesome.
Tyler R asks, any chance of a ball pouch
version of the underwear?
Gotta confess, not endowed enough
for that to have been a concern for me.
Never thought of it.
I don't think we have it in the plan anytime soon.
We're definitely looking at more underwear,
particularly we've had a lot of requests
for women's underwear.
So we're working on that,
but no promises for ball underwear,
but your request is noted.
Thank you for that.
And congratulations, Adam R says,
I work for a state agency in the US
in a cyber crime unit,
helping the most vulnerable in our society.
Our office is in desperate need of a tech makeover.
Would LMG be interested in a video collab
addressing the same?
Wow.
Weird.
It's crazy to me that you guys need a tech makeover.
Yeah, so I didn't know when I clicked this one,
like, is this a government agency?
Cause if so, like-
Sounds like it.
I don't even think we'd be allowed?
Yeah, I don't know if we'd,
I don't know if we'd even be able to do that.
I think the whole cyber crime thing is interesting,
but like a tech makeover is probably literally not okay.
Yeah, so cool suggestion.
You know what?
I'm going to respectfully decline, I think, on this one.
It would be pretty cool,
but I just feel like we wouldn't really be able
to show anything,
which would make the content just me walking around
in a completely blurred out frame.
Speaking of which, control F, fab.
I know I saw some questions about the Intel fab trip.
Oh, that wasn't it.
Okay, oh, nevermind.
Well, they're coming as soon as they can.
I haven't heard back from my Intel rep
to the point where I'm actually like kind of worried
about him.
So, well, like I'm sure he's fine.
I'm sure I would have been notified
of his role replacement or whatever,
if he was dead or fired or something.
But hopefully you're okay, EW.
Ping me if you want to.
He might just be avoiding me because he's busy.
I mean, at CES right now and reviewing our videos
and trying to get all the executives lined up
to get the fab videos going is going to be a bit of a bear.
But yeah, they'll come out as soon as they're ready.
Oh, Halo Infinite thingy.
Oh, yes, okay.
Thanks, thanks, thanks, full pinch head.
Okay, so first of all, the backpack is amazing.
Yup.
And all the device-
This always stuns me.
This part I find fascinating,
because how long have you been using this now?
I don't know, like over a month though.
Oh, it's gotta be way over a month.
Yeah, I don't know exactly.
Is this the same one you've been using?
Yeah, yeah, I took it with me to Tel Aviv and all that.
Yeah, it's gotta be way over a month.
Yeah.
It looks brand new.
Well, yeah.
And it's looked brand new the whole time.
Well, yeah.
I find that fascinating for a backpack,
because backpacks get beat up just like naturally.
So I got all my tech pockets, right?
Got my, oh crap, I better find my framework
before I go home.
Okay, well, my laptop's supposed to be in there.
And then I've got my couple of handheld devices.
Okay, so this one is super cool.
I know that I just announced the Next,
which is a follow-up to this.
This is the Neo Pro, okay?
But Luke hasn't seen this thing,
and it is really freaking cool.
No, no, you haven't seen it in action.
True.
So I've been a little slow about
getting my review done a bit.
And the reason for that is that I've just been a little slow.
Sorry, everyone.
But I'm finally on top of it.
And man, is this thing ever cool.
Unfortunately, this is gonna take me a minute
to get signed in.
So do you wanna do a couple of merch messages
while I de-stupidify this?
Sure, yeah.
Okay, sorry, one sec.
Some of these I'm gonna have to kind of ask you.
So Matthew B says, been watching for years.
Thanks for making such great products.
Know you've been making a lot of jackets.
Do you plan on making a waterproof rain shell?
Oh, yes.
Oh, wow.
I did not expect that.
So this was actually included
in the Creator Warehouse newsletter,
which you should definitely subscribe to.
It's super cool.
They talk about sort of behind the scenes,
the tech of what we're working on.
So Kyle's done a thing on injection molding.
Sarah's talked about just color choices.
And this is actually featuring the kind of
the 3D printed down is what the manufacturer calls it.
But essentially what it is is a super high R value.
So super high insulation value,
but hyper thin and really comfortable material
with a waterproof ever so slightly stretchy shell.
Which is nice.
That I think is going to be absolutely killer.
We've got the-
It looks really, is this the final design?
No, no.
So I think-
I already like the like stealth lines and stuff.
Those are gonna be stealthier.
We found that they were a little bit too loud
once you're actually wearing it.
Sure.
And then I think the back is gonna be more like
dots or something instead of this like big line.
The fit is bang on, but there's some other details
we need to figure out.
Like this Velcro is awful.
It's abominable.
So we'll have to deal with that.
The hood fit is excellent.
The taping is excellent.
So we're really pleased-
Oh, do you have dual lines on the hood?
We're really, yeah.
We're really pleased with this manufacturer overall.
Waterproof zippers, obviously, everywhere.
I think it might be kind of cool to do an interior pocket
now that I think about it.
I, yeah, it's still very much in development,
but it'll happen.
I've been asked to try it on.
Okay, fine, one sec.
Do you want to do another thing in the meantime?
Yep.
Just trying to find one.
Okay, I'm gonna save that one
for when Linus is more available.
So we're just like a pretty-
Yeah, that looks really sharp.
Yeah, so we're gonna fix this thing.
It's got kind of like a flap here.
Okay.
So we're either gonna go all the way down
or we're gonna eliminate it entirely
and just do like a little zipper garage at the top
and it kind of gets in the way.
So these are the kinds of little details
that we catch when we're daily driving
the early production units.
But yeah, that's what it looks like.
Really like the fit.
It looks really sharp.
No restriction on it whatsoever.
I trust that the new design directions
will only improve it,
but I'm like a big fan of its aesthetic already.
Yeah, I've been wearing it like every day.
I'm excited to wear it snowboarding at some point.
It's not really designed for that.
Do you know how I- It's not alpine warm.
Do you know what I do though?
Right, you're a warm boy.
Yeah, so all I do is I wear a sweater and a rain shell.
I don't wear like a snowboarding jacket
because they're usually too hot for me.
There are- It's not long enough though.
It's not really long enough for that.
It's really not designed for that.
I don't wanna oversell it.
No one else should do this.
It's for like- But I'm probably gonna do it still.
It's for like four to 10 degrees outside weather
and raining and just kind of like miserable, ugly,
sort of low, but not below freezing weather.
That's what it's really designed for.
We're doing the fit kind of bulky
so that if like I often layer up,
so I'll wear a stealth hoodie
or I'll wear a WAN hoodie under it.
And that's very intentional.
I like that use case for those shells.
While you keep on working on that,
someone asked if there are any plans for LTT socks.
Yes, there is.
I don't know if there's any updates on it.
Yeah, the prototypes on my desk upstairs.
Man, lots of stuff going on.
But we have been working on socks for over a year.
And well over a year, actually.
It's been about a year and a half.
And I have yet to find something that I'm happy with.
We've got a manufacturer whose quality I am pleased with,
but we are still working to get the exact composition
and the exact weave of the Merino correct.
And one of the things that,
what I will do in the meantime is I'll endorse
another sock manufacturer
who makes an absolutely great product, can't go wrong.
They're called Darn Tough.
They make socks in Vermont.
They're extremely expensive, but they, man,
these things last like nothing I have ever seen before
in my life.
And they even have orange ones.
Oh, I'm not wearing the orange ones today.
Well, I've had a lot of people speculate
that I'm wearing LTT socks when I wear the orange ones,
but they're not.
They're Darn Tough socks.
And if we can't reach that tier of quality,
we're basically just not gonna make socks.
So.
Have you talked to Darn Tough?
We have, they don't do OEM work.
So we kind of went, okay, well, fair enough.
Then we're gonna have to take our business elsewhere.
And yeah, so we're,
yeah, we're, we're, we're trying,
we're trying to get there.
One of the big challenges right now is they do
an outstanding job of making the sock cushioned
and yet structurally sound.
So one of the problems I run into is when I'm putting
my sock into something like a tight fitting gym shoe,
like something that's designed to fit really tight,
like a badminton shoe or something like a snowboard boot.
Yeah.
Right?
You don't want the heel to get pulled up
halfway up your calf.
So you need something that has enough structure
to the base of it,
that it's not gonna get pulled around on your foot.
And, you know, even just, you know,
wearing my daily driver sandals or whatever,
if you move sideways,
I hate it when my socks slip around on my foot,
drives me absolutely crazy.
So I miss tech news says Prime Packet,
wrong show, wrong show.
It's not a tech news show.
So we want something that is going to hold up
to all the little sort of irritations that I have
with crappy socks.
And it's been difficult.
It's totally a thing.
Yep. It's been difficult.
Joseph S says winter stealth bottle,
in brackets, white on white, when?
P.S. I am now going to start calling bromine bro.
I hate it.
I hate it so much.
Winter stealth bottle.
I actually would be surprised if we ever do it,
to be honest with you.
And the reason for that is that we have experimented
with that color scheme before,
and it really just did not translate.
I think I remember it looking weird.
There is a water bottle project that I don't know
if we're talking about,
that I'm actually very excited for.
The thick boy?
The thick boy.
Yeah. There's going to be a bigger water bottle.
It's huge.
It's like a day's worth of water in one bottle,
which is totally what I want.
That's fantastic.
If I can just fill it up in the morning
and if I drink the whole thing by the time we go to bed,
I'm like, pretty solid.
Ridiculous.
All right.
I love it.
Ounces. Can we say ounces yet?
I don't remember how many it is.
64, I think.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm not a hundred percent.
I could have said that wrong.
It's ludicrous.
Don't quote me.
Yeah. Don't quote him on that
because we are just dumb people
that have no idea what's going on.
Talk to Nick.
Yeah.
Bryn, well, don't talk to Nick.
Don't bother Nick.
It is the weekend, okay?
That's why-
No, tweet him.
No, don't.
No, don't, don't.
That's how we're going to lose our leaking privileges.
We're not going to be allowed to leak product anymore
if it ruins Nick's weekend every time.
Don't tweet him.
If you want to learn more about products, don't-
Subscribe to the newsletter.
Yeah.
Okay. All right.
Big brain.
Okay. So this is really cool.
This is Halo Infinite running on a handheld.
Okay. One second, one second.
Just chill, just chill.
Where's the, where's the stupid quick, no.
Where's the, a bot bootcamp.
Here we go.
Sure. Whatever.
Play.
Okay. Okay.
This is like kind of mind blowing.
And now this is not, okay.
This is not running RDNA 2 graphics
like the upcoming Steam Deck will,
but unlike their previous one,
which I actually have in my tech backpack as well.
I love this thing.
Unlike their previous one, the Aya Neo,
or Aya Neo founder edition one, it's got, what are they?
Vega 8 rather than Vega 6 graphics.
So it's a full like 30% wider GPU core
and it's clocked 15% higher,
which based on the performance numbers that I saw
of the, of this one,
the founders against the Steam Deck prototype that I tested
puts it within striking distance.
Although there's still lots of room for Valve
to optimize.
I love this, by the way,
I got to talk about Jake's comment here in a second.
There's still lots of room for Valve to optimize
both on the hardware side and on the software side,
especially because they're running
such a lightweight operating system.
You see how much they shed
from the size of their SteamOS 3.0 image?
No.
I forget what it was, but it was like obscene.
Like it's a fraction of the size that it was before.
They just de-loaded the crap out of it.
Crazy.
This is great.
Jake asks, can the Aya play Anno?
I've got Jake into Anno now.
What, actually?
Well, he saw me playing around with it
when we did a video at my new house
and he had always kind of made fun of me for it, actually.
It was like, oh, you're always talking about Anno,
oh, Anno, oh, oh, oh, oh.
And then he messages me like shortly afterward.
He's like, okay, I'm gonna try Anno.
Should I try Anno?
I'm like, well, it's kind of a polarizing game.
It's not for everyone.
But if you like optimizing things
and if you like building style games,
you might really enjoy it.
Or if you can pair with someone who does.
And he's been messaging me about it
and he's been into it now.
It's great.
We should make a three-person,
whatever you call it, expedition something?
Okay, here you go.
Here you go, try it out.
Try it out.
That is Halo Infinite running on,
oh, wait, actually, hold on, hold on.
Do I even have it in juicer mode?
I do, I do.
It's really cool.
This is some software they added.
You can actually configure your TDP of the chip on the fly.
So you can just be like,
yeah, I wanna run in balanced 15-watt mode.
You double tap.
Well, normally you double tap it.
All right, it's being stupid right now.
Of course, when you go to demo something,
it immediately breaks.
But we're in like big, chungus 20-watt mode right now.
A question for you while I play with this for a second.
Any chances, Joshua W says, oh, it's gone.
Any chances for kid-sized shirts is what he asked.
We wanna do kid-sized shirts.
Right now, our insurance does not allow us
to do children's garments,
and it's not an impossible thing for us to do,
but it's something that we potentially could do
in the future.
So yeah, we'll see how that goes.
Jonathan asks, how do you tell a good PC distributor
for commercial uses?
I've been trying to find one for a long time,
but haven't found one that's reliable.
Do you have any recommendations?
Honestly, I don't even know what a commercial user looks for
in a PC distributor.
What are the differences?
Is there a reason you wouldn't just buy in bulk
from like Newegg or Amazon?
Do they have corporate reps?
Sorry, I have not been concerned with procurement
in a very, very long time.
So playing a shooter game on a controller
feels like butthole.
Okay.
But-
That's fair enough.
It feels like it's running well.
What's the frame rate at?
It's up here.
I've got frame view running.
Oh, average.
Yeah, okay.
So it's hitting around 30.
Yeah.
Which like, no, I did not expect 60 FPS
and Halo Infinite on this thing,
but it is 100% playable.
Yeah.
Pretty cool, right?
That's pretty nuts, actually.
That's cool.
That's exciting.
This thing is like-
That gives me more hope for Steam Deck.
Kind of sick.
It's also interesting that it's running Halo Infinite
and the air out of the back, which my hand 100% went over,
is cool.
Well, but that's the intake.
So the exhaust is out the top,
where it doesn't interfere with your hands at all.
That makes sense.
And I'm just, Halo Infinite is just,
it's mostly interesting from a what, really?
Really heavy game, yeah.
Kind of standpoint, just because it's such a heavy game
and it's obviously popular right now.
But for me, the bigger one is that you can run
Breath of the Wild at over 30 FPS on this thing.
And that's in the 15 watt, somewhat reasonable mode
that won't chew through the battery in like two hours.
Right.
So what's crazy about this is that
it's the do absolutely anything computer.
Yeah.
Literally anything.
Yeah, it's sweet.
Because you can dock it and expand with screens
and peripherals and whatever.
I've got PlayStation running on it.
I've got PS2 running on it.
I've got the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild
running on it.
I've got PC games running on it.
It's like, there's nothing it can't do.
In the current environment of hardware prices,
is it like that bad of an idea
for someone to just buy one of those?
Well, the thing is that the Steam Deck
is sort of in this sort of does it exist,
does it not exist stage where it is announced,
but you can't buy one.
And Valve says they will ship it at X time,
but they could easily delay it.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time
that Valve ever delayed a product.
And we don't know how friendly Windows
will be on it either.
I think it'll be fine.
I think that Valve is clever enough people
to understand that not everybody
is going to want to run SteamOS 3.0.
Hopefully it's great and everybody does,
but yeah, I agree.
I think it's not realistic for everyone
to end up running SteamOS 3.0 on it.
And I think that Valve is absolutely going
to be doing the smart thing
and internally validating the device on Windows for sure.
There's just absolutely no way they don't do it.
Martin M says, let's see how long this takes to come.
Still waiting on a previous order.
Hit up support.
Yeah, do, but also understand
that they are a little bit backlogged right now.
We've had time off because of the holidays,
because we're not a totally horrible employer to work for.
And then also there's an influx of messages
over the holidays.
Joe doesn't know this and neither does Nick,
but I'm going to talk to Nick
about Joe potentially helping.
Oh, okay.
That would be really helpful.
They told me their support ticket number today
and my jaw hit the floor so hard I almost flipped over.
Yeah, we're trying, we're trying.
You got to understand we are not Amazon.
You know, we don't have call centers around the world
that are monitoring tickets and calls.
Like we're still a pretty small operation,
but we're absolutely doing our best.
And once we do get back to you,
I promise we'll get whatever it is taken care of.
Starlet Scarf, a big fan of yours for years
or been a fan of yours for years, not a big one.
Sorry, small one maybe.
I've, I'm a visually impaired CS major.
You've inspired me every step of the way.
Any thoughts on the difference
in some USB-C cables capability
like PD versus transfer rates?
I've seen many people have issues with this.
Oh, what a, what a rabbit hole that one is.
When we do our cables and that's a when, not an if,
that is absolutely something
that we are going to clearly mark on them.
You will never, I promise you,
this is my personal Linus Tech Tips guarantee.
We will never mark an HDMI 2.0 cable, HDMI 2.1A cable.
Our PD ratings, our maximum rated transfer speeds,
they will be accurate and they will be clearly marked.
I promise.
There's nothing I can do about the cluster that exists
in the current space.
We will hopefully be able to list
or link to a labs page on the cable even.
Hopefully.
Eventually, hopefully maybe.
That's the goal.
You never replied to my email about that.
What?
We need to have a meeting about like creating a,
like a scope.
I thought I did reply.
Well, when did you reply?
Was it like today?
Maybe I didn't reply.
Luke getting called out.
Luke getting called out live on Wancho.
No, I will reply from you.
Did I talk to you about it outside of the email?
Weird.
So we need to have a meeting sort of defining
what the scope is for that.
It doesn't take over linustechtips.com
and then the form becomes like a discussion sub-site.
Do we create a new domain for it?
I don't know.
We need to figure all that out, but we've got time.
Yeah.
What were we talking about?
Well, we're just going through merch messages.
Oh yeah, right.
What about USB cables?
Okay.
David T says, how come the land hoodie
only has a two piece hood,
but the stealth hoodie and the Swacket V2
have three piece hoods?
That is a tremendous question.
And if Hannah or Bridget were here,
I'm sure they would be able to tell you.
Matthew from our team was not actually involved
in any of those garments,
but he'd probably be able to tell you too.
So those are our fashion designer fit technician team.
I have no idea, I'm sorry.
Frugivore, hopefully I'm saying that right
in the float plane chat said, no, keep the forum.
He wasn't saying getting rid of the forum.
No, no, it would just be-
Navigational changes.
Yeah, navigational changes.
Yeah, it would still be there.
It would be a way for the forums existence
to be justified from a business standpoint
cause I promise you it doesn't make money.
Brandon says, this will go so well with my line of work.
How does hot coffee hold up in the bottles?
Okay, so it is a water bottle.
We do not endorse the use of other liquids in the bottle.
However, I have seen many user reports
that it keeps coffee hot very well.
The one challenge for me with putting anything
other than coffee in any water bottle,
I don't like putting non-water beverages in water bottles.
You got to only do that thing forever.
Pretty much, and the challenge is that cleaning them
is a bit of a chore because it's hard to get in there
and you should never put an insulated water bottle
in the dishwasher.
So as long as you've got a scrubby for cleaning it out
or you don't mind having like coffee residue
inside your bottle, then I can't stop you from doing that.
It's your product.
It's your thing.
It's your item.
Yeah, you own it, but I don't, it's a water bottle.
That is the officially supported liquid.
Being like that about it, being all corporate.
Bryn asks, I'm curious to hear what,
if any tech you guys are excited for
that isn't quite ready for prime time,
but feels like it's around the corner?
I feel like my answer is kind of cop out for this.
And it's definitely ready for prime time
because the app that goes along with it
was number one on the app store at Christmas time.
TikTok?
No, actually.
You're into TikTok?
You want more TikTok?
No.
You sure?
Yes.
More dancing and singing along with stolen music?
Don't really like TikTok too much.
No, but it's VR.
I think it's very close.
That is a cop out answer.
Thank you.
The Quest 2 is fantastic, but it's not really there.
It's so close, but I still feel,
when I'm trying to move the controls around,
it still feels a little laggy.
And I know they don't have external sensors
and all this kind of stuff.
I know what they're fighting against is huge
and what they've accomplished with the Quest 2
is very respectable,
but I'm really excited for the next few steps of VR.
And I've never felt like we were,
there's been times in the past
where I had kind of a sense of despair about VR
because it's not there and it's gonna take so long.
And now I'm like, it's not there, but I feel it.
And it's right around the corner and I'm really stoked.
So I guess that's my answer.
Yep, that was a cop out answer.
It was.
Honestly, handheld gaming
is something I'm super passionate about.
It's kind of a cop out answer.
You literally had it on the desk.
Going back to the Nvidia Shield, right?
That Android gaming portable that they had.
Shield portable, I guess they retconned the name too.
I absolutely loved that thing.
I love the concept of streaming games,
locally from a higher powered machine over the network.
That's something I'm also super excited about.
I mean, Dell even showed off a concept of a gaming server
inside your home at CES.
Yep, it's exactly what we talked about on the WAN show
like six years ago or whatever.
And we have a demo coming with one GPU, four gamers
where we do the same thing.
We take a consumer Nvidia GPU
and split it out into multiple workers
and then people can remote in through the network
and use Parsec to actually game
on the same machine at a time.
Super cool.
Those are technologies that I'm really excited about.
Like the mobility of computing and gaming in particular
because that's like, you know, yeah, I mean, it's neat.
I can track my steps or whatever,
but unless the screen is big enough to play games,
it's hard for it to really hold my attention is the truth.
Okay, there's a big discussion in floatplane chat
led by A-Prime and Jake of all people about,
well, why shouldn't we be allowed to put our water bottles
in the dishwasher if we have a no heat setting?
Yes, if you have a no heat setting on your dishwasher,
you can put it in the dishwasher if you really want to.
I'm just, for the sake of just protecting, you know,
the people who can't be trusted to set their dishwasher
exactly correctly every time we say it's not dishwasher safe
but yes, you could do that.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, no, we don't own an aircraft yet.
That's a merch message that just came in.
Not yet anyway.
Joshua asks, Linus, what is the complete story
behind you and your NCIX days telling vendors ahead of time?
No, we have no intention of paying you.
Also, do you guys have enough in stock of the land pants?
Okay, so that's not, is that from the roast?
Is that from Taren telling that story
in the roast or something like that?
Okay, so-
Because I'm trying to figure out
what that is in reference to.
Maybe I told the story, but basically I told a vendor
that we just, I was talking about my order
and I said, hey, I forget exactly what I said.
It was either something along the lines of like,
I need net 60 terms because realistically
we're gonna pay in that 60 anyway,
even if you give us net 30 terms,
it was either that or it was like,
they were complaining about not getting paid
and I said something along the lines of like,
well, yeah, it's kind of going around right now,
but we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna,
well, no, this wasn't even at the end.
This was just NCIX having cashflow problems
and stretching their terms with vendors
because basically management either through ignorance
or malice, I can't tell anymore,
had decided selfishly that their own cashflow issues
were the only priority and anyone else's cashflow issues
were not a priority.
So constantly when I would go and I would complain
to upper management or accounting
that my vendors need to be paid,
hey, we already turned through all the inventory.
What are we waiting for?
We have the money to pay for it from customers now
in our bank account, theoretically,
assuming you're not pissing it away on something,
we need to pay the bill.
And they would always say, you need to ask for more time.
You need to ask for understanding
so we can have the cashflow to maintain our business.
I'm like, well, what about their cashflow?
Like, I don't understand this.
This doesn't make any sense.
We've got, did we bring in the product and sell it
and then now we can pay for it or not.
So basically I disclosed that we were stretching our terms
and that we were not paying vendors on time.
And Taron called me into his office and was like,
did I just hear what I thought I heard?
You can't tell people that,
like, do you have any idea how bad that looks?
And like, from my point of view, I was like, yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
But from my point of view, I was like, well, if it looks bad
then maybe we should probably pay our vendors on time.
But that's not something I can control.
It's not something he can control.
So it was an important lesson in just sort of etiquette.
Even if you're good,
and stretching terms is absolutely a thing
in many industries and many vendors,
but it's not something from personally that I agree with.
We don't stretch our terms here.
I don't think to my knowledge
in over nine years of operation,
ever been laid on a paycheck, for example,
I don't believe in that.
Everyone else has cashflow issues too.
But when I'm not in control of that, which I wasn't,
I have to tow the company line.
So that was the story there.
As for whether we have enough land pants in stock,
we certainly did before we started.
I have no idea what kind of situation we're looking at now.
It's probably dire.
We definitely moved a few.
Yep, just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
You know what?
We'll be, I think we'll be okay for a little bit.
The problem is just that our restock is pretty far away.
So that's the main issue.
We're gonna have a restock of hoodies
before we have a restock of pants.
So if you were holding out
to buy the hoodie and the pants together,
I can't guarantee that their in-stockness will overlap.
Yeah.
Joshua W., I already talked about kid-sized shirts.
We can't do it until we revise our,
until we revise our insurance
and until we get our own branded shirt blanks
out into the field,
make sure that they're really gonna hold up
to the real world.
And then we start working on the chunky boy fit,
the lanky boy fit, the women's fit.
Maybe we do kids fits.
The future of the LTT brand is clothing, not merch.
So yeah, pretty much you name it.
We intend to address it at some point,
but we are, we're cashflow constrained, right?
Like that's something I'll talk about honestly
with you guys, whether the optics are good or not.
We're at the point now where Creator Warehouse
could probably use an outside investor.
I think I just, I don't want to do it
because I just don't like people telling me what to do.
But I think that if we were being honest,
they've got a new space they're moving into.
They're gonna have to furnish it.
They're gonna have to hire a bunch of people.
If we wanted it to grow the absolute fastest
it possibly could, we could use outside investment,
but we've also really enjoyed doing things
the way that we wanna do them.
If it takes-
I think you're gonna have a really hard time
continuing to do that with outside investment
because the LTT stores ran in a somewhat unique way.
If it takes a year and a half to make a pair of socks,
then damn it, it takes a year and a half.
And I think not a lot of many people
are gonna be super cool with that,
that aren't the audience.
Yeah, I mean, honestly,
that's something that theoretically we could do,
but the problem is that as soon as we have
a bunch of international investors-
Oh, I didn't mean that, but yeah.
As soon as we have a bunch of international investment,
it is a minefield.
Oh, it's terrible.
Legally and accounting wise, it's just awful.
And I don't feel like dealing with it.
So that's where we're at on that.
We're not gonna go public anytime soon.
No, no, no, no, no.
Jackson, do you have any other prints
of the desk pad on the horizon?
There's gonna be a stealth one.
And I think there's something else
with like kind of like cool circuits
or something like that.
It's kind of inspired by the circuit wall in the lounge.
Also, do you see opportunities for non-PhD IT enthusiasts
at LMG in the near to midterm future?
Graduating my bachelor's soon and looking for work,
any job search advice?
IT enthusiasts.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's tough, right?
Like you just got to keep an eye on the-
Jobs page.
Jobs page, we're almost always hiring these days.
So I don't know what to tell you
other than keep an eye out.
String plays says, any new beanie designs coming?
I'd love to see some brighter color,
really brighter colors, okay.
And maybe multicolor designs.
I don't think we have anything planned for multicolor,
but I'm sure Sarah would love to do another round
of finding fun colors or coming up with like some cool,
like patches and stuff to put on them.
Anything's possible, but there's nothing imminent.
Blake, heck of a job to your team
pumping out videos this week.
Also shout out to my buddy, Travis, watching.
You'll be sleeping on this pillow.
Oh, that's so nice.
You got a CPU pillow for Travis.
Wow.
I know there wasn't a question,
but I thought that one was like,
give a shout out to the team.
It's positive, wholesome, good.
Lance, the US Copyright Office
is looking at changing regulations
about automatic content ID systems.
They're taking public comments for a month.
This is everyone's chance to make their voices heard
about content ID abuse.
Hey, what a great message.
Thanks, Lance.
Enjoy your mystery water bottle and your black beanie.
And thank you very much for bringing that
to everyone's attention.
It's gonna be really interesting
if three quarters of Twitch creators
can't just watch YouTube all day anymore.
Yeah.
I'm not even necessarily like calling anyone out,
but that's like a huge thing.
An automatic content ID could really bring that down
in a crazy way.
That would actually be a massive change for,
I guess not just Twitch creators,
but like live streamers in general.
That's a huge portion of what live streamers have been doing.
Wow.
That would totally change the space
if automatic content ID came to more platforms
and how it was more regulated and all that kind of stuff.
Okay, it's gonna be on a commercial flight,
Vladidaddy88.
We don't have our own plane.
Andre J says, how do I wash the desk pad?
I might or may not have spilled some Red Bull on it.
So this is not official.
This is just what I've tried and it works,
but you just machine wash cold,
lay it flat to dry and it looks like the day you got it
pretty much from my experience.
Your mileage may vary.
Your detergent or your washer settings
might completely destroy it.
I don't know.
So failing that, what you can also do,
and I think this is more officials,
you can take something like a scrubby cloth,
like a microfiber cloth or something like that,
get it kind of saturated in liquid and detergent.
You can just kind of scrub it.
Just make sure that you don't only scrub in one spot
because it's a black pad.
So you'll end up with like one faded spot.
So you need to make sure you kind of feather it out
and scrub all around.
And then I would give it a rinse and then let it,
let it just lay flat to dry and you should be good to go.
Mark C, I'd love to see a highlight video
of LMG employees personal Twitch channels.
So what I was thinking with this is,
is that you just want more personal promotion
on LMG official.
We've talked about this, Luke.
You're putting me under pressure live.
I meant to read this one before you did
because I was going to kind of co-op his merch message
and say, if you want to see more stuff
about LMG employees, personal stuff,
a very interesting way to do that
is to subscribe to float plane
and check out the meet the team videos.
There's actually quite a few at this point.
I'm going to work with the lives media group team
to get some of the old exclusives tagged
with the exclusive tags.
So it can be more easy to find some of the old exclusive.
There's a ton of exclusive content built up there.
There is actually years worth.
So there's a lot of meet the teams too.
And it's actually pretty interesting
to see people in a casual setting
just talking about themselves
instead of talking about tech stuff.
So if you want to kind of meet the team
with a variety of the team members,
maybe check out float plane.
Lucky Falcor on float plane says,
Hey, did you guys hear Sonos won the patent case
against Google and Google speakers are getting nerfed
as a result instead of Google paying royalties to Sonos?
I did.
I think it's time for me to just switch
from YouTube music to Spotify
because it drives me crazy that Google play music.
I used to be able to just natively cast to my Sonos speakers
but ever since those two got in a TIFF
you haven't been able to do it anymore.
And that's part of the transition to YouTube music
is my understanding.
And it just sucks because the Sonos music app sucks
because nobody should ever use it.
You should just use your native music service app
and then you should just cast to your Sonos.
So I think that might be the thing that just breaks me
and pushes me to Spotify.
Apparently they have good migration tools.
Jake has been on me to switch to Spotify
for freaking ages.
YouTube music is trash.
Yeah, but I have YouTube premium.
That's why I have it as well.
And I have a family plan.
So I just like have all the YouTube premium
and all the YouTube music.
You can get Shopify family plan.
I don't, yeah, but that's not YouTube premium.
So now I have, now I have to also have premium.
Am I wrong?
I might be wrong. Just sucks.
Does YouTube premium just automatically include
YouTube music?
I believe so.
Oh.
I could be wrong.
It might be a small adder.
If it was cheaper, then that helps cover a bit of it.
It's at least cheap.
Foster W, as a sales rep at Leon's,
it's very difficult for me to explain to customers
the difference between Hertz
and the manufacturer listed motion rate.
What's the easiest way to explain the difference?
I've got it for you because this is how I used to explain
it to customers.
The Hertz, right?
Is the input, is the input frame rate, okay?
Or frequency or whatever.
Let's, let's, sorry?
Nothing, sorry, I was talking to Jake.
So let's use, let's use frame rate, okay?
So the Hertz is your input frame rate.
Then whatever your clear motion or clear smoothing,
motion smoothing, or whatever that is,
that's the output frame rate.
So the way that you can explain it is that any difference
between this and this is fake.
It's guesswork.
It's filling in the blanks.
So that's why this is critical and this is garbage
because anytime you're guessing,
there's always going to be some incorrect guesses.
And I remember it just being the stupidest thing ever.
NCIX had this Samsung showcase store at one point.
And one of the demos that Samsung sent over to,
to show off one of their, you know, top-
This was in Metrotown, wasn't it?
It was in Aberdeen Center.
One of their top tier TVs was,
I think it was like BBC Planet Earth,
where all the birds are flying at the same time.
And I don't know whether it was Samsung's fault
or NCIX's fault,
but we had it running with the stupid motion smoothing.
So it looked like an absolute cluster.
It looked like absolutely nothing
as all these birds are going across.
Because the wings, right?
They're constantly changing direction.
And when you've got like a, you know,
I guess that would be what, a 30 FPS or 24 FPS content input.
And then you're trying to upscale it to, you know,
at that time it would have been like 240 or whatever.
I mean, it's a gong show, right?
It's not gonna look like anything.
So stupid, hate it.
All right, glad to hear it, Adam L.
Love, Anno, 1,800 too.
I got the incoming.
You got them? All right.
Keep going through.
So hopefully that clears things up for you.
Adreka One News.
McDonald's Japan is only serving small sized fries
due to an issue with their Canadian supplier
in the Vancouver reports.
Yeah, that sounds familiar.
Thought it was fun enough to share.
Hey, thanks for that.
Red Robin locally is only providing catch up
in pre-portioned little things.
Cause apparently there's a catch up shortage
in Vancouver now as well.
Just, just, you know, COVID era things, right?
So one of the incoming messages that I sent through
so that they work at a Chick-fil-A
and they rotate through eight iPads
for taking orders or something.
And they're wanting a charging solution.
Just get one of those like a file folder slot things
that you can place them on and just plug them in.
There's not really much else to say other than that.
E and D says, you've mentioned software videos
don't perform well.
Would you consider making compilation videos
of cool slash niche software for PC users?
It's something we've touched on before.
In fact, we had a whole series that we had planned
around it called LSD, Luke's software discoveries.
It didn't perform very well.
I don't think Luke did a great job of it.
I think one of them was okay.
Yeah.
There was only like two of them.
Yeah, well I think-
One of the problems is there honestly isn't that much stuff.
Well, I mean, we did a full episode on Ninite
for NCIX tech tips way back in the house a long time ago.
Ninite is still super cool by the way.
Yeah, it's something that we could do.
In the meantime, we can at least highlight
the one that you mentioned here.
Apparently it's a good way to force old games
into windowed full screen called game companion.
But that sounds kind of neat, but it's not enough
for one video and it's very niche.
Yep, it's tough.
And ultimately when you like,
unless we started doing more Linux stuff,
I don't think there's enough of that type
of content for Windows.
I think if you jumped on Linux,
yeah, there almost certainly would be.
Andrew C, have either of you done any more Linux things
since the Linux challenge?
Nope.
I've been playing Halo Infinite.
Mint released a new version.
I'm interested in trying it, but I can't like,
this is the same problem they ran into last time.
I really, really wanted to run it on my work computer
a bunch of years ago and it just wasn't worth it.
Now I really want it to run it on my work laptop
and it was totally worth it.
I actually significantly enjoyed the experience
and I believe I was faster and more productive on Linux
than I was on Windows because the startup time
was really fast and it just didn't get in my way.
It was quick, like, I don't know, I was happy.
And then it stopped disappearing and I was like,
I was happy and then it stopped displaying
to an external monitor.
And I was just like, okay, now I need to waste
a bunch of time installing Windows again
because Windows takes a billion years to install
compared to Linux.
Kind of does, I don't get it.
It's only like four point, however many gigabytes.
How long could it possibly take to extract
and put all the files?
Linux actually takes like a few minutes
and there's like almost no config you need to do.
I shouldn't say generally, but like Mint and Ubuntu
are super, super fast to install it, very, very easy.
And then Windows is like, oh my God,
I have to click 10 million things saying,
no, I don't actually want you to take every single piece
of information about my entire soul for free.
And then you finally get into the install
and it has to update 10 billion things as well.
So frustrating and I don't even wanna use it
and it's worse, but at least it displays
to a second monitor.
Yep, I don't know what to tell you guys.
So I don't know, I like wanna try the new version of Mint,
but if that happens again,
then I just wasted a bunch of time.
Silverhome says, still no QD OLED talk.
So that video, did you watch the video we did on QD OLED?
No.
Okay, it's super cool.
So Samsung is trying to solve the problems of LCD and OLED
by basically combining some of the best technology of both.
They've got an OLED backlight,
which basically means per pixel light control.
And then they're using a quantum dot layer
to handle the transformation from the wavelength of light
that the backlight evenly distributes
to whatever wavelength they need.
So it's gonna be your red, green, blue, et cetera.
It's a little bit more complicated than that.
You gotta watch the full video for the actual explanation
because there's some pastor or something.
Anyway, the point is it's OLED plus quantum dot
and it's super cool.
A fair number of people criticized the videos
for being extremely shilly.
And the answer to how that happened
is actually that I did not know it was sponsored.
So, James was the one who actually went down
to Samsung's demo.
Everything I heard about it, and I trust James's,
I trust James's takes on displays implicitly.
He knows his biz
and he brought down all the tools he needed.
Samsung let him play with them, which was amazing.
With what limited time he had,
he was able to actually like test them,
which is something that doesn't normally happen
at a CES showcase.
Like it was very open considering that it was Samsung.
I think part of it is that it was Samsung display,
not Samsung electronics.
So super cool opportunity
that we would have been crazy not to take.
So James is the one who went down there.
He came up, he scripted the video.
I went through it with him and I was like,
how good is it?
And he's like, it's great.
And I go, okay, well, this seems kind of tepid.
Like, is it good or is it great?
He's like, it's great.
And I go, okay, so let's go through.
We need to crank it up.
And I cranked it up a notch.
As I was standing on the set,
I found out, hey, this video,
this is a fully sponsored video.
And I went, oh.
That's why it was tepid.
That's why, well, no, that's not why.
I don't know why James made the decision
because he would have had every opportunity
to tell me in script review that it was sponsored.
That's why he did it.
But I mean, I never asked, right?
He might've assumed,
he must've assumed that I knew it was sponsored
because someone told me at some point,
I'm just a scatterbrain.
I've got a lot going on.
And I didn't remember.
I just didn't remember.
And so I realize on set, I find out on set,
hey, this is sponsored.
I go, oh shoot, okay.
So a couple of problems here.
Number one is the way that I went through
and edited that script for what is a forward-looking piece
on a technology that is not released to the market yet
for a brand partner is not the way
that I would normally frame something like that.
I would normally frame it as more,
we're gonna let you guys be the judge of this ultimately,
but here's what Samsung says about it.
So I allowed a lot more of our editorial impressions,
which were very positive,
to make their way into the finished video.
That was concern number one.
Concern number two was that
there was no sponsorship disclosure in the script.
Oh.
So on set, I ad-libbed in the sponsorship disclosure
that needs to be in the first 30 seconds or whatever.
And I was just like, well,
we're behind on production right now.
We need this out in time for it to go up at embargo.
I don't have time to sit down
and completely retool this script
and make it less enthusiastic.
And the reality of it is people are gonna see this tech.
They're gonna know we were right about it anyway.
So how much damage is this gonna do?
In the short term, yeah, I think it was a hit.
In the long term, I think we come out fine
because when people look at this
two years or three years down the road,
they're gonna be like, LTT was right, which is great.
But it just sucks that we ended up
with a lot of really negative comments on that video
criticizing us for sort of shilling it
when the reality of it is what actually happened
was we ended up being way more positive
than we normally would have been on a sponsored video
because I didn't realize it was sponsored.
We actually go out of our way sometimes with sponsors
to make sure that we don't inject
that personal enthusiasm into it
because we know that that muddies the waters.
So that's what happened.
And that's the kind of thing
that I guess will end up in my tell all.
Yeah.
Thomas W.
I've got some things to address, two comments.
I'm not surprised to, you know, comments about Linux stuff.
Powder Linux said, couldn't Luke get Anthony
to fix his second monitor issues?
Now we're wasting two people's time.
The whole problem-
Am I paying for this time?
Exactly, yeah.
Is that a thing I'm paying for?
Yeah.
But come on guys.
The whole problem is that it's a low end work environment.
All I need is some browsers
and two dedicated chat applications.
That's it.
I need Slack, I need Teams,
and I need usually two to three browsers
because I might need to test some things
in some browsers, whatever.
I just need it to work consistently.
That is my whole benchmark.
I was excited about using Linux
because it was a little bit faster.
I found it got in my way a little bit less
so I could work slightly, very marginally faster.
The fact that it stopped displaying
to a second monitor was a big problem.
And then, Crobat on Twitch said,
I'm not using Mint, but I am on Fedora
watching Wancho on my laptop
connected to a second monitor, Luke.
I know.
It's not that you can't do it.
I mean, I had my Manjaro rig on a second monitor
whenever I needed to like diagnose a problem.
And I had it on a second monitor for like a month.
And I seriously doubt it affected almost anyone else,
if anyone else at all.
It's very likely related to my literally physically
falling apart old Razer laptop.
It's like, it doesn't matter.
Can you complain about that gift somewhere?
It's still working.
It's really sexy when you do that.
It's still working.
I don't care.
It's still working.
It still plays games.
I went to a LAN with it at my parents' house
with my brother.
I'm kidding.
It's fine.
I know they all fell apart.
I understand.
We literally made a video about how they all fell apart.
I'm just saying it's probably more related to that
than like Linux or whatever.
I wasn't trying to take shots at Linux,
but it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
I need it to work.
You don't want to take shots at Linux
when you can take shots at Linus
and his gift he gave you.
But it's just like,
and then there was another comment that was like,
Hey Linus, you constantly get asked
to make more unread content,
but you say there isn't enough interest,
but we're constantly asking you
so there has to be enough interest.
And it's like, no, that's not how it works.
Yeah, no, that's not how it works.
Just because there's like a few loud people in the audience
doesn't mean there's actually hundreds of thousands
or at least a million people
that want to click on this content.
If we make a video that doesn't get a million views,
it's like a catastrophe to put it in perspective,
like what kind of scale we're hoping
to operate on these days.
And we could potentially do a Linux channel
that has lower expectations at some point,
but we haven't done that yet.
Thomas W asks,
what's the lowest temperature
that the water bottle can handle?
Could you put LN2 in it?
I don't know,
but you know who does know is Steve from Gamers Nexus.
So you could ask him.
He told me he intended,
he asked for some.
So we sent him some,
he told me he intended to use them for LN2 pouring
for extreme overclocking.
I was like, let me know how it goes.
And then I don't think I ever heard back from him.
So yeah, feel free to check in with him about that.
Kyra says, hey Luke,
what's your end game vision for float plane?
I super love float plane,
but things like caption availability make it hard
for my auditory processing issues.
So unfortunately I usually use YouTube
despite being subscribed.
We do want to have,
to support auto caption stuff.
Is there like an open, open,
like speech detection.
There's a service we can subscribe to, I believe.
The last time I looked into it,
it looked like it was a paid service.
It was attainably priced.
The problem was it does,
if I remember correctly,
it's been a while.
The problem was that it didn't work with our current player.
We're still waiting for that player update.
I know I've been saying this for a while now.
We had our main developer in general,
also the main developer on the player,
kind of was down and out with COVID for like a month.
And he's only been back for like a week.
He's done an amazing amount of stuff since he's back
cause he's awesome.
But he gets pulled in like a billion different directions
and he's the one making the players.
So it'll come when it comes,
hopefully soon, it's very close to being ready,
but we want it to be really, really ready.
It will not automatically support that,
but theoretically it would be able to support that.
And that is something that we want to do
because you're definitely not the only person
who needs slash wants that feature.
And we would like to support people
with those types of needs slash wants.
Mythxplays says, missed the WAN hoodie,
happy to be here for the WAN pants.
Linus, I know you play badminton,
but what's your workout routine like?
Is there a sweet high-tech gym coming at the new house?
No, I actually do not do any pure working out.
The only exercise, like explicit exercise that I do
is playing badminton, more formally training badminton
and beat saber, that's actually it.
In general though, and this is one of those things
that it's ridiculous how simple it is
and yet how important it is.
I take steps two at a time.
I walk fast everywhere I go, I park farther away.
Take the difficult route.
There's a lot of little things that you can do
that contribute to just, I'm not jacked, obviously,
like I'm not huge or anything,
but there's a lot of little things that you can do
to help maintain what's shaken.
Like I never miss a step target, I'm always walking.
If I could, I am someone in the office
and knowing that it usually takes people a while to see it.
It's actually faster in most cases to get off your butt,
walk over to their desk and talk to them.
So that's what I do.
I get up and I go talk to people
and often it's nice to have a brain break.
It's good for the mind to just get your body moving
once in a while, genuinely.
So there's just a thousand little things like that.
One of the things that I will go out of my way to do
even if I don't feel like it is if my kids ask me to play
a really active game, like they like this game
where I will go and catch them.
I will chase them, like run after them, scoop them up
and then carry them like flailing around
and throw them onto a bed or a couch, okay?
And so they'll go in, they'll hide or they'll run,
they'll try and get past me.
I was playing it at the in-laws house
the other night with them, freaking exhausting
because my oldest is nine, okay?
And he loves it too, they all love it.
So I'll grab them and I'll like huck them onto the bed
and I'll tickle them and then I'll run
and I'll go get another one and throw them over my shoulder
and go run somewhere else and huck them onto the bed
and I'll tickle them and one of them will come up behind me
and punch me in the butt and I'll turn around and grab them
and I'll put them over my head
and carry them off somewhere and throw them.
Obviously you gotta be careful, they're children.
But I do like to play rough with my kids.
So that's something that's, it's just one of the little
things that when you have an opportunity, take it
and it makes a big difference.
Yeah.
And I go hard at badminton to be very clear.
Badminton, if you are, and I don't wanna generalize
but if you are white and not from Denmark,
badminton is probably not what you think it is.
Because I'm just saying, I play like for realsies.
So it's hard, it's very intense.
People don't respect badminton enough.
Men singles badminton, like the average professional match,
they actually travel a greater distance in less time
compared to professional tennis matches.
Like it's insane.
Burned to Otis, with Samsung now making OLED TVs,
will LG OLEDs get cheaper?
I suspect it'll put pressure on LG.
And will LG finally make an OLED gaming monitor panel?
Well, LG would need an appropriate technology to do it.
That's the issue.
Right now, I think one of the reasons
they only have an OLED creator monitor
is that they can sell it at the kinds of margins
that will allow them to absorb any returned panels
due to burn in if it becomes a problem out in the field.
So I don't think it's coming anytime soon,
but don't quote me on that.
I mean, they could surprise me.
Don't they have a 30,
don't they have a 42 inch TV coming though?
I mean, that's getting dangerously close
to monitor size at this point.
I mean, I'm already using a 48 inch as a monitor
and I'm kind of loving it, actually.
I don't know how I could go back.
There's one for me from Jacob W.
Says, hey Luke, how have you been?
Now that you've been on the float plane team for a while,
how does it feel not working for LTT anymore?
What was the transition between the two like?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's cool.
I've worked a lot of jobs in my life.
Sometimes I miss making videos,
but sometimes I also miss working in the back of Geek Squad
and fixing computers.
There's gonna be positives and negatives about everything.
There was a moment that I kind of,
there's been times in my life where I've tried to sit
and absorb and accept the fact
that I'm currently in the good old days.
I try to recognize that when I'm in it
so that I can more deeply enjoy things.
And honestly, this week when the Garbage Time stream
went live, Dank Pods, when he went live
and he started playing drums on stream
and the stream was running beautifully
and the whole live chat was freaking out
about how good the audio quality was.
And I had just previously been sitting in a voice chat
with all the people that contributed
and made this thing happen.
I was watching it happen in front of my eyes
and he's talking about how great the stream's running
and everything's just going properly.
And I'm just sitting there like,
this is pretty bleep button cool.
Like the fact that we made this is just kind of incredible.
Like it's, this is a wild achievement.
I think everyone on the team should be incredibly proud
and I'm incredibly proud of them.
And this is not something that I could have done
in any other arena.
So there's-
I mean, you can count on your hands and toes
or on your fingers and toes probably like the companies
in the world that have their own top to bottom
VOD delivery systems, right?
Yeah, like it's, and a lot of the information
for that is not the most public and stuff.
Like it's genuinely incredible what the team has done.
And every once in a while, I just have to sit back
and be like, wow, like this is crazy.
Like obviously there's things
that Flipping doesn't do perfectly
but there's enough that it does really well
that I just, I think it's super cool.
And I also appreciate that I'm allowed
to still do stuff like this.
I've been doing Wancho the entire time.
It's not like I've been completely gone.
I just don't make mainline videos anymore, but.
It was nice to have you back for the Linux series.
It was fun.
It was fun working together on the videos again.
I completely agree.
And I've talked to Riley.
I'm probably going to be doing a tech link at some point.
So that's cool.
But I'm not, by no means am I leaving FlowPlane.
So don't get it twisted.
I might just show up every once in a blue moon.
But yeah, I don't know.
I love my job.
It's really cool.
So yeah.
I don't actually force him to say that
just to be very clear.
No.
And I don't think he'd be afraid to say it.
No, I typed a comment in the garbage time stream.
I typed a comment being like, this is,
the fact that I like that part of my job
is that I need to sit here
and make sure the stream goes well is so freaking cool.
Cause I'm like, this is awesome.
I don't know.
It was great.
I, yeah.
Jake asks, Anno after party.
I'm tired.
I'm out tonight, but I'm, I'm definitely down.
I'm down to play some Anno.
Yeah, we should, we should.
Saxon asks, any chance for a rough day,
pre-save link or subscribe to notify
for the new short circuit hoodie,
even if it's in like 2024.
We have no such feature at this time, but.
We've kind of, we've thought about it.
It could be an interesting idea to add like a page
of like upcoming products that you can subscribe
to notifications for or something.
But it's also fun to just drop them in during Wancho.
And we have enough of that one coming that as long
as you're kind of paying attention to the channel
at least once a week, I think you'll get one.
Then again, the response to that thing
has been absolute fire.
So I, there's no guarantee.
We got to start firing through these.
Okay.
Cause I'm like out of time.
Okay.
Kenneth, love the new house content.
If you're curious, if you plan to review
any new security products, no.
And for the reasons that you outlined,
it's very difficult to review a security product
without revealing far more about your own security situation
than you are comfortable with.
Zach M, I already have and love the desk pad water bottle.
Thanks for the amazing products.
I know the port's been a pain.
Any idea when my hoodie, oh, okay.
No, we already addressed that.
Yeah, it's coming.
Jake in full plane chat says,
can we give a shout out to the Linux WANIC?
It hasn't crashed once.
This is deployed hashtag F windows.
Yeah, infrastructure developments.
Heck yeah, let's go.
Pretty much.
Michael O, is there any idea
when we might start seeing research, testing
and content coming out of the labs?
Will it be in 2022 or is that wishful thinking?
If it's not in 2022, I'll be disappointed.
Anonymous, any plans to tackle the chaos
that is shopping for an AV receiver
that actually supports everything that HDMI 2.1
is supposed to offer on multiple inputs?
That would be a project for the lab.
That's not a project for our LTT writing team.
So expect that to take some time.
Bill, long time viewer, serious question.
If we have big suggestions for the lab and float plane,
where's the suggestion box?
We do have a publicly facing email address
on the main channel.
I'd say that's not a bad place to send real, valid,
meaningful feedback, but don't expect a reply.
The folks who man that are not,
they're not gonna reply to you.
Evan, loving the merch.
Can we get subtitles on the product photos
showing what size the model is wearing?
We are working on it.
That is a thing that we will do.
It's just a matter of them getting on it.
Luke O says, haven't asked this in a couple of years.
When can I buy your book, Linus?
And can I get an autographed copy of this autobiography?
I don't think I have a good enough memory
to write an autobiography.
I think if I ended up writing a book,
it would basically just be me sitting down and typing
and rambling until I run out of things to ramble about
and then binding it and selling it.
That was a hell of a ride, Linus Sebastian.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, pretty much.
Alec asks, hey, what's the timeframe on the backpack?
Three months, a year?
Should I stop checking for it every few days?
Stop checking for it every few days.
You'll know, because it'll be on land.
We still have another sample coming, I think next week.
If this one is perfect, then it goes into production
and it will be months away, okay?
If it's not perfect, Chinese New Year's happening,
could be another two months
before we even get another sample, so.
Joseph G says, I'm autistic and have sensory issues
and the short circuit long sleeve t-shirt is out of stock.
Are there any more long sleeves in the pipeline
or a restock for the short circuit?
Okay, there are long sleeves in the pipeline,
but they're gonna be a while.
They're gonna be based on the same fabric as our t-shirts
or maybe a slightly heavier weight.
And those are still going through that process
where we're deploying them, making sure they're all good
and then we're going to ramp up big time.
Anonymous, are the swackets getting a restock
or were there a limited time item?
They are getting a restock this time.
The first swacket only got a single stocking
because we had issues with QC on that supplier
and we couldn't find another supplier to build it,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, long story.
But this one is coming back.
How about dark aqua pants?
Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
Hit up Nick if you have merch suggestions,
don't bother him on the weekend though.
We can skip this one, I already talked about it.
Okay, Brittany, hope you guys are having a great night.
Been waiting for the pants to drop, I get it.
I'm so excited to finally get them.
Also, I don't know if you'll see or read this,
but if you do, how do you guys feel
about Razer Sneki merch?
Have you gotten any of it for yourselves?
I didn't know what they were talking about.
Well, I'm going to Google it.
Razer, Razer Sneki, Sneki Snek, what is this?
It's a snake.
I mean, it's cute.
It's pretty cute.
Giving cuddles, aiding conservation,
chief gaming mascot, meet Sneki Snek.
I mean, it's not the weirdest thing Razer's ever done.
No, I haven't gotten my hands
on any of that stuff myself.
Adam C says, can't wait to see more colored shirts,
maybe long sleeves too.
Why don't you guys branch out into formal wear
and make a tie?
Maybe GPU, oh, I hate you so much, Luke.
Maybe GPU themed, you could call it the 3090 tie.
It's actually not that stupid.
That's the one where I reacted
and you were like, what?
And I was like, you'll see it later.
That was it, by the way.
The 3090 tie.
Oh man, I hate it.
Jaden info, I actually kind of want one.
Pretty good.
So that gets a little bit complicated
because that would absolutely be trademarked.
We'd have to find a way around it.
What if you beat them to the punch, the 4090 tie?
That's hilarious.
And then we just mock up, like kind of a-
What it might look like.
Man.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, all right.
You got my attention.
You got my attention.
That's a legit good idea.
Ryan got the shirt to commemorate
my first computer repair at work.
I now run IT for my office.
Quite the journey.
Looking to upgrade our workstations next.
Would you go Intel 11th gen
or would you go 12th gen for future proofing?
So 11th gen would be tried and true.
12th gen would be-
Man, 12th gen performs so much better.
Man, I'd be real tempted to go 12th gen right now
to be perfectly honest with you.
It's just, it's just better.
Daniel H asks, there's a Sony FW900 CRT
you've probably heard of before
that does high res, high refresh rate gaming.
Sure does.
I'd be interested in doing a blind AB testing
against modern high refresh rate monitors.
I'll bounty the FW900.
If someone has one that we could reasonably get
to Vancouver, Canada, I am down.
I would love to have one of those in our arsenal.
So man, what are they worth though?
Tell you what, why don't you hit me up with your offers?
Same thing, we've got the public facing email.
It ain't that hard to find on the YouTube channel.
If you have an FW900, I'm into it.
Hey Linus, opposite side of the question,
how does it feel not having Luke working
in LTT videos anymore?
Has having your own personal VOD dev on staff
been more helpful than losing a host?
Love what you do.
Honestly, what Floatplane does now is incredibly valuable.
So between the floatplane.com platform,
I mean, you guys saw in the how does LMG make money video
that we did a while back,
it is a significant portion of our annual revenue.
And then now they're doing stuff like merch messages,
which quite frankly,
if it goes the way that I'm expecting it to this year,
I would expect the merch message revenue
to outstrip the Floatplane subscription revenue for 2022.
There's a lot to unpack there because-
There is, because the Floatplane revenue is cash.
And the merch messages revenue
is based on creator warehouse work and-
And has costs.
The merch messages income on a week
where there is a product launch versus the week
that there isn't a product launch
is like completely night and day and stuff.
But building tools like that,
building tools that are gonna help us build out the lab,
make the content better,
I think is where the Floatplane team
is really gonna be able to shine over the next year.
And the inventory system.
And yeah, we have like a fully customized
inventory system now instead of the garbage software
that we were using before,
that's all on the Floatplane team.
So I think it's more valuable having an in-house dev team
than it is and having someone in charge of it
who understands what we do.
Cause I could try to hire someone for Luke's position,
but realistically they would not understand what we do.
And you guys as viewers who have followed us for many years,
you might take it for granted,
but it's not just straightforward.
It's not just you walk into this job and immediately
you're like, oh yeah, this is where the revenue comes from
and this is who the customers are.
Like, it's not that simple.
Cause what we do is creative.
It's not just plugging in inputs and getting outputs.
So yeah, it's, I wouldn't have anyone else doing it
quite frankly.
Thanks man.
A prime said, you want to license that out?
We've thought about it.
We want, there's still work to be done
to finish custom tailoring it.
Like there's a thing we're doing for product procurement
where instead of it going through this like
weird Google sheet and then being added to an email
and all this weird stuff,
we're going to track the entire procurement process
through the inventory system.
Oh, that's cool.
There's always the item there
and a notification can be sent out
once that item actually shows up in office
to one of the writers and stuff.
So there's still like features and things
that we want to bring to the table.
Once we're done the core development
and you guys are like, yeah, we just kind of like it now,
then we might look into potentially licensing out,
but it's going to be so tailored to us
that it's like, unless you're a YouTube outfit
that has a massive inventory,
which there's probably very few of you,
but there are some.
There's gamers nexus.
Yeah, there's going to be some.
You can license it to Steve.
Yeah, there's going to be like a small handful of people.
Sup.
But yeah, I don't know.
Asa, yes, we're working on DAW benchmarks.
It's taking a long time.
Mechanical V, I am shorter than all the options
for the WANTS, I'm just over five feet.
Would you recommend this for a short woman
or should I hold off?
Hold off for the women's cuts
because they are going to be like more fitted
for narrower legs in addition to being better for height.
Yvonne tried one of the men's fit ones
and she was just like, this is a little too big for me.
She is extremely skinny though, so your mileage may vary,
but I would say that there's a solid chance
that you're going to be better off waiting
for the women's version.
Matthew H, I have the GPU and controller foil shirts.
When are we getting new foil shirts?
No time soon.
Yeah, we haven't, we've kind of moved on
to new metas at this point.
Solar Fur says, just saw MKBHD's What's in My Bag.
Your team has a lot of camera enthusiasts.
Would you guys ever consider making a camera-focused backpack?
No, that is not in the plan at all.
It's something that we could potentially tackle,
but it's also something that we would just love to see
people who live and breathe at everyday tackle.
Like that's what makes this thing so great
is that it is tech enthusiast focused.
There's thought given to where does my mouse go?
Most people don't carry a mouse.
I do, I need somewhere to put my GD mouse, okay?
And so we want to really just stick to products
where we can differentiate based on
that we do use them every day and that we have pain points
that we can really meaningfully address.
Turf asks, Linus, are you liking the Samsung watch
or going back to the Apple watch?
Need a lengthy video or more details?
Frankly, I just use it as a watch.
I use it to tell the time.
The notification delivery on my phone for calendar events
is so inconsistent and unreliable
that I just, I can't really use it for that.
And reminders on Android are so fundamentally broken.
If anyone who works on Android ever wanted to talk to me
about how atrocious reminders are,
I'd be happy to point them in the right direction
about how to fix them.
When I say remind me of something,
I don't mean be like, hey.
You might want to know this.
I mean, remind me, I need to do it.
And there's no way to change your reminder notification
to be a continuous alarm.
How is that even possible?
It is 2022.
How is it even possible that you can't set
a persistent reminder?
It's mind blowing.
Anyway, that's the whole thing.
So as a time piece to tell the time,
I think it works great.
It doesn't get stinky, so the band is good in that sense.
Nice, good, high quality.
Was it really all my thoughts?
Christopher M., LTT shills for the win.
Need more hoodies and swackets for the full set.
Epic pillow win.
I think it's in the harbor, yes.
Will there be a non-hoodie sweater in development
that one could wear to work?
Stealth sweater with a zipper front, stay awesome LTT.
We do have a new stealth coming.
It is a hoodie.
Oh, interesting.
No, I don't think...
Man, I just love hoodies.
Me too, I'm definitely into hoodies.
A non-hoodie sweater.
I mean, you know what?
I think we should do something like that.
That is a thing.
Seems like a good idea, a non-hooded sweater.
Well, with a zipper, right?
Is what you're saying?
You guys have a non-hooded sweater.
Yeah, it's really different though.
That's like a cozy warm kind of sweater.
Non-hooded sweater with zipper.
I'm gonna just send that to Nick with a maybe.
I mean, once we've done the patterns
and got the materials sourced, it's just a matter...
That's a relatively simple thing.
That's one of the reasons that all of this has taken so long
because everything we've done has been from freaking scratch.
Once we've got good suppliers and like...
Ah, good material sourcing.
It's gonna get simpler.
I keep saying that and it just keeps staying complicated.
I would like to make a store suggestion.
I work in retail and the policy is
we cannot wear any sweaters with a hood or logos.
Can you please consider making a sweater with a zipper
but no hood, wait, it's the same damn suggestion
but from a different person.
That's hilarious.
Okay, yeah, we're still working on it.
Justin says, dank is still dank and please visit LTT.
And archive.
I didn't click that one.
I don't know where that one came from.
Jared asks, do you plan on adding microscopy, microscopy?
I don't know.
Equipment to the lab.
If yes, do you plan to hire a microscopist,
microscopist to run it?
Anything's possible.
Right now we are digging through literally hundreds
of like masters and PhD grade applicants.
It's kind of incredible.
And we're going to figure out what experts we have
and we're going to build out test suites
and equipment around them.
We're kind of going very backwards.
But that's the reality of it.
When you go in with no real solid plan
and you just want to like make better videos.
So we're going to take what we can get.
Ben D says, just built my first computer this week,
currently watching on it.
Thanks for all the educational content.
When is your Beat Saber competition with Conrad coming?
Anytime Conrad, anytime.
I think you got to put a cap on it.
Fine, this month.
It's been at least a month.
New Year's resolution, come at me, bro.
Yeah, it's been at least a month.
What do you think of that?
Jacob W, question for Linus and Luke.
You guys have been doing this a long time.
Looking back, what's your favorite
and worst memories of working together?
Well, we did the worst a couple of weeks ago, I think.
Favorite, man.
I mean, it's been a wild ride, man.
It's been a long, we've done some crazy stuff.
I don't know.
Yeah, what have we not done?
I mean, staying up late at Computex,
just like talking about stuff,
being on the top of the mountain, man, like.
We've done a lot of cool stuff lately,
but I think a lot of the founding memories
are going to be pretty core for a long time.
Yeah.
I've brought this one up quite a few times.
I know, the server falling asleep at the Denny's.
Yeah.
I don't know why, but that one just sticks.
That's just such a, that's a very coveted memory.
All the late night drives, right?
Like I used to just like drive Luke everywhere.
I didn't have a car.
He had no car.
We'd work way past the bus.
And I knew he had no money because NCIX
wasn't paying him any money.
So what was I going to do?
Just like leave the office and leave them there?
Like walk home for like three hours?
I think I pretty much saved your life that one time
when I lent you that camo jacket.
Or was that you or Ed?
That was you, right?
Honestly, it was probably both of us.
For some reason he had to take the bus
and it was like crazy cold and he only had a t-shirt.
So I like gave him my jacket.
Yeah.
And then I had no jacket.
I didn't tell him, I didn't tell him that I needed it.
Did I ever tell you that I like needed it?
I know I borrowed that jacket when very needed
more than once, but I'm pretty sure Ed did as well.
I lost it somehow.
I don't know what happened to it.
Really?
Yeah, I don't have it anymore.
That's actually pretty sad.
Crazy, ridiculous camo jacket, super thick.
Favorite memory of sports day?
Yeah, Jake, honestly, I was thinking about that recently.
The second, it's like...
We've got to play some ball hockey.
Sports day, I want to play sports day.
We've got to play some ball hockey at the gym.
Absolutely.
I'm super down.
Yeah.
We've got to play some sticks and I'll just like order them.
I don't even care.
I have a stick.
Yeah, but we need more.
We've got to have like hockey, ball hockey.
We've got to play some ball hockey.
Sure, yeah.
All right.
Last merge message.
Here it is.
Jeffrey A, is it better to wait
and upgrade to something like the LG C2
or should I just find a good deal on a C1 equivalent?
Honestly, I mean, C2 is looking brighter.
It's looking exciting, but it's hard to go wrong.
Man, any current gen OLED is going to be such a game changer
for probably whatever you're running now
that you're going to absolutely love it.
I got to say, Jake said the sports day thing
and then he said charity streams.
Jake, I have very recently dug out all of the footage
of you and me screwing around
making those Christmas presents for my family.
I don't know what I'm going to do with it.
I've been cutting it together.
It's not going to go anywhere.
I think I just want the video for myself, like genuinely.
Like Luke technically has a channel.
Yeah, I just-
There's the video of me saving him on the bridge.
Which had zero dislikes until we pointed it out on my show
and then it got some dislikes, I was sad.
But it is so funny.
I don't like, I'm watching this really old footage
of Jake and I just like screwing around in the garage
at like one in the morning,
making like stupid toilet humor jokes.
And it is so funny that I just watch it
and then run out of time
and have done almost no editing
because I just find it hilarious.
I just keep watching.
And it's so much footage.
It's actually excessive.
And it's funny because I have no idea
what I'm doing with cameras.
So anytime Jake isn't there,
the footage is like basically unusable.
So it's basically just Jake and I the whole time.
Like half the time I filmed myself,
I didn't turn the mic on.
Jake wants to see it.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, I have all, it's actually so funny.
I don't know.
Junkie81 asks, is he allowed to upload it?
Yeah, of course.
One of the best parts is we have this bucket of cement
that's dried out and I have to try to get the cement
out of the bucket, but it's like one in the morning.
So I'm trying to like hammer the cement out of this bucket.
And Jake's telling me I'm not gonna be able to get it done.
And he's like, oh man, it's so funny.
Oh man.
I want to watch this video.
It's actually hilarious.
I'll cut it together at some point.
It's a lot of footage, so it's gonna take me like forever.
Some of the early channel super fun stuff
was pretty ridiculously fun too.
Just like, even just little dumb stuff.
Like remember that time you chased me
and I was like legit, I had like a fight or flight reaction.
You jumped over somebody else's fence, didn't you?
Something like that.
Just trying to get away from him.
Yeah, I remember that.
There's been a lot of, we've done a lot of stuff.
It's been a good time.
It's been a long time.
All right, and it's been a long time on this show.
I think it's time for us to call it.
Oh my God.
Someone said, technically it still has no dislikes.
That's funny.
Never thought about that.
Thank you for tuning in.
We will see you guys again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Bye.
Jake said you should just edit into a video.
I legitimately think at this point in time,
if I finished the edit,
it's gonna be like well over an hour long.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cause I don't care.
Like I don't know if I'd even release it.
So it's not for like, it's not really for other people.
I don't care if people would keep watching.
I don't care.
Oh wait, together on the street.
Bye.