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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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WAN show yet this week, okay, and also rise in 3000 so two topics that you care about
We're also gonna discuss YouTube rewind
I only made it about halfway through so really it might have gotten a lot better towards the end
Okay, I kind of suspect it didn't I'll wait
We'll get into that later and finally csgo is now free and also gets a battle royale mode because every game
I don't know. I'm refused to talk about that
No, no
Player no, no, you're baiting me. I said I wasn't gonna talk about this
As a prime player you can not know you'd against you are not prime players. I want to talk about Oh
Okay
Okay, no, I want to start with the really important stuff so yeah Luke and I had a meeting today
Oh boy, we are gonna be making. Oh, well today is actually like kind of the team announcement WAN show
So excited for one of them it's gonna be look incredible
Okay, so first of all good shirt choice, by the way flow plane. Thank you flow plane has
Some big milestones coming up. Yeah, which none of the team knows about at the end of this year
Yeah, so it's gonna be actually
Pretty freakin awesome. Yeah, and one of the things that's gonna happen before then is
Live-streaming support with chat and all that cool stuff is dropping very very soon
So you can expect if you're a float plane member you are going to be
Simultaneously multi casting and we are gonna be simultaneously multi casting to YouTube
22 and float plane calm
Next Friday. Yeah, so that's gonna happen exciting. I can't promise special treatment for the float plane chat
And in other news
You tube rewind dropped yesterday, yeah, yeah, okay
So why did you only make it?
Halfway, okay. Sorry one of the full play guys just said an inside joke and that that caught me off guard
What so why did you only make it halfway through okay, so here's the thing
I have a confession to make I've never made it. No I did
I think the year PewDiePie became number one
I might have made it all the way through because I remember seeing the bit at the end with him like walking on the beach
Or something is that does that ring a bell?
I thought it I don't know if it ends that way or starts so that he like picks up the play button on the beach
Oh crap, maybe that was the start. Maybe I didn't make it
Okay, so hold on a second so I
have to confess that I
Don't think I have ever made it all the way through a rewind because I don't really watch YouTube
So for me, it's kind of like this parade of people that I don't know who the heck they are
Well, I think that's the problem right now. So that was one key difference this year is I knew who Marquez was
Yeah, I knew who um, he's amazing. Um
Have you watched his this is totally off topic. Have you watched his
camera phone
Comparison. Oh the bracket that he's doing. Yeah. Well, I don't really watch YouTube, but I'm aware that he's doing it. It's done
It's up. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's actually really interesting. Okay, good. You should watch it. Okay. All right, we're like skip to the end bracket
I'll skim through it. Okay. Yeah, that's like the most that's a compliment like
The fact that he's gonna skim through it and like actually enough information like that's not that's not that's not a side against the video
That's that's pretty good
Anywho I
Reckon I've recognized we're off
Technical Guruji I recognized. Yeah, like I don't know for like three seconds
Yeah, cuz I didn't see he's like on the island and he's like, oh, I think we should acknowledge people who?
When they're like jumping different people, yeah
Yeah, yeah
and then I recognized Emma Chamberlain who I'm only aware of because I was reading an article on
Something about something and somehow I ended up looking at the Streamy's Awards and she was the breakout creator
And then I spent actually probably about an hour and a half on her channel trying to get it
and
What I realized is that I still don't really get it and I'm probably not gonna start watching YouTube anytime soon
Anyway, so other than that, I didn't really know who anybody was I think okay
so I think that's a big problem with YouTube rewind so back in like
2012
2013 when you should be doing it that long. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
2012 YouTube rewinds like a thing
Okay
2010 they had a 2010. I don't know when they actually started it but
They called it. This was called YouTube rewind year in reviews
It's so over two hundred and fifty million views combined and it's like kind of a clip show from your TV screen
It has like oh that guy's awesome the Old Spice commercial guy
Oh, it's got a bunch of Twilight on it. There's a crying child
Yeah, so this is like pretty low-grade compared to what they look like if you notice but it goes back that far
Did you're not screen sharing by the way, so no one can know
I'm sorry. I'm sorry one thing you'll notice from this rewind is it's showing things that happened that mattered that got a lot of use
throughout the year and new rewinds are just powered by YouTube trends as
Opposed to powered by YouTube arbitrary. Yeah, and and new
Rewinds are here's a bunch of people doing
Completely intensely unrelated things for the most part or like vague fort right fortnight fork knife
That was not that was not there. No the beginning but later on
Like this none of it none of it matters none of it actually represented like impactful things for the there was no t-series
There was no yeah year review. There was none of that kind of stuff. How was t-series not?
Even if you don't include PewDiePie because the stuff that's happened with him and whatever whatever that's a totally different conversation
Well, how was t-series not a part of that?
Yeah, that what like my it's very it's very it's very cleaned off
like Google is pushing hard into India don't imagine for a second that any of this t-series and
Rising in prominence of Indian channels don't imagine for a second any of this is a random accident
Like Google is pushing
Really hard. They're pushing on Chrome. They're pushing on Android. They're pushing on YouTube. They are
Pushing into India. Okay, so some people are saying the PewDiePie dramas for teenagers
We're saying completely regardless of the pen
It's happening t-series is still massive and they're huge and the Indian YouTube is exploding and it's fortnight not for teenagers
I
Mean it featured very prominently in the rewind and as far as I could I mean I went to the Halloween store and there were
fortnight costumes
They didn't have adult sizes
I'm thinking they probably know their demographic. Yeah
shows gotten real and comfortable I
um, I
Think I think with rewind they're trying to make it extremely advertiser friendly
Yeah, and they're trying to bring in safe acts and for some reason they're no longer trying to just show
Really cool or important or high view things that happen throughout the year
Yeah
They're just trying to take people that are advertiser friendly and put them in first like I love that Marquez had a speaking part
That's really cool
but I almost would have liked it better if he was just like
Sitting on one of the seats on the bus like talking about his phone and like showing it to someone as they had panned along
it
Like I love that. He got a speaking part, but it felt off topic or if he had a speaking part
I would have liked for it to be because if you don't know the thing, it's so related
Yeah, you won't have any idea from watching rewind another thing in my opinion if they're gonna do it this way
Yeah, I disagree with but if they're gonna do it this way where they just like scattershot
Popular people that are brand friendly into the video. Yeah, they should have little things
Like this is this person
Yeah, cuz you watch the thing and you're like who are all these people and maybe the person's on there for 60 frames
Like you barely see them and that's but that's where I think the context comes in as well because at least that yeah
That would help that would help. It's like it's kind of like does anyone remember when you're a kid, right?
And you're in the grocery store with your parents and like one of your teachers is standing there like
Comparing, you know the quality of like apples or whatever you're like
You exist in real life mrs. Fraser. Yeah shops at the grocery store
Because when you see somebody outside of the normal context that you expect to see them in it's
Very easy to not recognize them and this can even be people that you know in real life
Yeah, like if I ran into you know
I'm not gonna pick someone that I work with every day. Like if I ran into Luke on the street, obviously
I'm gonna okay even then though we ran into each other on the street. Okay. Oh wait, I'm gonna use a story for this
I ran into Dimitri in Germany
Okay, I had no idea to meet you from hardware connects. Yeah, I had no idea he was in Germany
He had no idea I was in Germany
We walked past each other randomly on the street and it takes a second because you're like this doesn't make any sense at all
Right, like it what like I totally knew who he was but I was like, is this a doppelganger?
Like what's it's it's a weird moment. It's very jarring
People are like what? Yeah that happens. That's pretty cool. That was really cool idea. Yeah
Um
So this was a long time
I don't know
I only made it about halfway through just because like it's it's not really it's kind of the same reason that I don't watch like
The Grammys and the Oscars because a lot of the time it's movies and songs movies
I haven't seen songs
I haven't heard and people who I don't really know who they are
Like there's a handful of like very famous actors and or musicians musicians in particular. I don't watch music videos
It's not like like I have an objection to them or anything
I just when I listen to music it's usually when I'm doing something else and that doing something else
Isn't staring straight ahead at the screen watching the video that goes with it. It's like something actually totally unrelated
So so I actually a lot of the time I don't recognize
musicians, yeah
and
so I
Just like I just don't find it that interesting. I don't really follow the storylines
Like I don't really pay attention to celebrity gossip or anything like that
So it's just not really interesting for me to just see a parade of people that I don't really know who the crap they are
I did
Yeah, like I liked seeing Marquez because it was cool having someone featured really prominently that's in our community
Yeah, and it was really funny to see that PewDiePie's chair made it in but he didn't
That was really entertaining
One of the animators that was featured. Yeah had to like the chair doing this but then no
It's just it's them like moving in a room like going for the camera be like hey
And then like moving away and it's all animated. It's a little cartoon
Yeah
But the chair that they're in is very clearly PewDiePie's like clutch chair with the like swirly red and black design got it
It's kind of a interesting call out that happened there
All right
The last day says can you guys talk about something that matters like yeah
The fact that Jesus is coming back very soon and the whole world is going to suffer judgment
All right. So let's move on then from that topic and let's move on to the big announcement
For this wan show. Oh, oh my goodness. I'm actually so excited the actual big announcement Wow, it's funny
We have made it 20 minutes into the wan show and I have not even opened up the topic stock yet
That may be a new record
I'm extremely like I might be more excited than the people in the audience. Okay about this
LTX 2019
The details are somewhat coming together. Oh, okay. First of all mark your calendars now
July 27th and
28 two days. Whoa, what two days two days. Well, hold on a second. Surely they're gonna kick us out of the venue overnight, right?
Wait, what wrong? What I didn't even know this. Oh, that's so cool
I'm so excited
LTX 2019 is going to be bigger badder and better than ever two days
Oh my god with an overnight LAN party. Oh my god
powered by
Our partner for the event dream hack. Yeah
Oh cool, so we have been working on this with them since
Basically, oh man the end of LTX 2018 when we went you know what we did a lot of stuff
That was better than last year, but there is still a ton of room for improvement here
So cool. I can't give you guys but but basically we're like, yeah, we need to take it up a
Significant notch this is to be more than just a fan meetup
Which it has done a great job of being but last year we had other creators. They're like
Coming out of the crawling out of the woodwork. No, it's Steve from gamers Nexus. We had Jay's two cents
We had barnacles there. We had Lewis Rossman there and we're kind of looking at this going well, hold on a second
Those guys came they had fun all of them and I you know, I'm not gonna put words in their mouths
But all of them expressed interest in at least maybe participating in
2019 so we're looking at it going like hey
Well, we need to like if we're gonna have like this step it up big creators coming in and like being sort of part of this
Experience we need like a creator meetup space and we need like we need better food options
And we need we need to be we need a bigger space. So guess what we got a bigger space
We are stepping it up. We're moving into the big time
so the original plan was to take I think it was a couple of the a couple of the
ballrooms or a couple of them like three of the meeting rooms and then one of the ballrooms or something like that in the
See East building of the Vancouver Convention Center
So we actually we went even further than that not a hockey rink this and with nope
With no plan really for exactly how we're gonna fill it
Other than that, we're just gonna take a lot of what we've done a lot of ideas from the community
Oh, they're getting so much boot space. So we're making every booth bigger good every booth better
And we are gonna have something to the tune of like
30,000 square feet or something ridiculous like that is going to be a gigantic
space
I think I can say that we are going to have
You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna check what is in the blog because we have actually added a blog to the ltx
Ltxexpo.com. Oh, hold on just a minute here. Oh, you're showing the duck. Yeah, that's fine. But it really matters
Oh, have we not have we not done it yet? Oh
Yeah, December 7th. Wow. This is this is a really great website very broken. There we go
Ltx 2019 and dream hack coming to Vancouver so cool page could be better, but don't worry
We're busy making whatever we don't have time to make the this this thing good
huge partnership thrilled to be partnering the three-and-a-half world record
Okay, well man I kind of you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna jump the gun a little bit there's gonna be a BYOC
So, but we're partnering I thought that was like a given well they do other things okay, okay
So there's gonna be a BYOC land how many seats can we say how many I know but we can't say okay
Okay, because you never know there could be like a slight
Seating rearrangement or it's power
Constraint restrictions or whatever sure you never know. You never know. There's still a lot of things to work out
That makes sense, but we have paid the deposit on the Vancouver Convention Center
Oh, it will be in the Vancouver Convention Center
So there will be way better access to hotels and transportation
You can take the sky train there tons of food like I've been
Better PAX West. Yeah for as far as I can tell my entire life
I I think the next one will be by like 12th or 13th event. I lost track somewhere along the line
I'm really excited. I'm potentially I'm I'm I'm willing to say I'm more excited about this event than than packs
Which is like that's a very hard thing for me to say you're kind of a pack sampling
I am kind of if you're being honest. Yeah. Yeah, but like LTX is legitimately and I'm I'm I'm not even technically a part of
I just be a group anymore. So I have no real technical incentives to even say this LTX is doing everything
That I think they should do partnering with dream hack is a really good idea
Making the event two days is a really good idea
A lot of people are flying in flying in for one like eight ish hours. We know
We always knew it was just and there's growing news and the costs and that
This year quite honestly
What?
Okay, so who's the biggest BS or ever know the directive to Colton?
so the directive to Colton previously was
breakeven
Right on the event. We didn't expect it to make money
But we we didn't really want to lose a bunch of money the directive this year is look
Linus media group and Linus tech tips doesn't really do a ton of marketing and quite frankly a ton of community engagement
Yeah, so this
This is our community engagement budget
for the year
Blow it
Blow it all hell. Yeah, so we are already it's gonna be so cool
We're already engaging with like actual professional booth building and designing companies
I can't promise we'll use them, but we will at least get some inspiration
We we really really want to take it to to a completely different level
I think the thing is there's there's I can't really think of any conventions at least in North America that are hardware focused
Not that there won't be games there, but it's hardware focused and a community event and their taxes definitely might be games there. Yeah
Paxis
Become less and less hardware focused over time. Yeah, they've been more and more gaming and it's more and more like giant AAA companies
It's not as like smaller company. It's much less hands-on
We're aware of the indie zone. Yeah, but
Okay, if if I'm not promising anything, but if we had any indie developers show up show up to
You know show off their wares at LTX 2019
There would be a hard and fast rule that you have to have a booth that doesn't suck and I get it
You're an indie developer and it's hard. We would be happy to help
But you can't just have a table with like a vinyl banner behind you
and like I did I hate to stereotype but like two nerdy guys
Sitting there at the desk with some business cart. No
It has to be playable. It has to be cool
It has to be like it has to not suck. That's all I'm asking. Yeah
So it's just I'm I'm I'm in extremely intrinsically excited about this LTX
I think the the main things I wanted improved is like the lines were crazy
At last one and and the main stage was okay
So VR had what three headsets?
Yeah, so we figure the minimum for this coming year is somewhere between 15 and 20
Yeah, like that's insane and but massive booth makes and we just kind of like we kind of like lay it out like so that you
can make it somewhat space efficient, but like
Yeah, we know absolutely we know so we know we screwed up a lot of stuff last year
I don't know if it's screwed up fun, but I had a lot of constructive criticism. Yeah, but I don't think it's good
It's our second convention. It's not Tanacon
It's not like the whatever that tumblr convention was like it succeeded people were happy
It's just growing pains and I'm just super excited for this year's
upgrade
It was thrilling to me that people showed up to LTX 2018 with like signed stuff from LTX
2017
Wanting to get it like signed again like where they where there's already that grassroots. Yeah, sort of
movement to make this
Sort of worth migrating for and we know that Vancouver is not easy
But that's one of the reasons that we're announcing it way earlier this time around you have literally
Seven months to get a passport and or figure out time off or whatever else
We're also doing it for two days so that it is somewhat justifiable to come up here
Vancouver is a beautiful city
Give it a chance
We're doing it in the summer for a couple of reasons number one is so that people aren't in school
And remember that applies to both, you know younger people and older people who are also in school
So we're doing it in July so that people aren't in school
We're also doing it in July because the weather tends to be absolutely fantastic
Here in July if you're into hiking if you're into food Vancouver is a great place to go for food
Whether you I mean pretty much Richmond I get so spoiled
because living in Vancouver, I'll whether I travel to
Asia or the US or like pretty much anywhere. It's like yeah. Yeah food's great
But like honestly, it's not that different from if I just go to it like there's probably a shop
Yeah, there's probably a shop not that far away that I get essentially exactly Chinese food Japanese food
Chinese food is better here like
Okay, I could get on I could get into a whole thing about sort of like quality yeah
I know where that conversation goes
Spent enough time in Asia for like people talk about yeah food's cheap in Asia. I'm like, okay, there's a difference
between food being cheap and
cheap food being cheap
I had the most horrifying hamburger and I know that's what I get for ordering hamburger
But I had just about the most horrifying hamburger and like Brunei or something stupid like that
It was like look it was a moment of weakness. It was like halfway through my trip. It was the trip from hell
We had two six-month-old infants with us like we were there because someone in the family was dying turns out they weren't dying
He's still alive and that was like four years ago. Anyway, but the point is like
It was the worst and and and and even the more authentic things because it's the entire rest of the trip
I had to eat more authentic stuff because I was with my wife and all of her family and we weren't gonna go to like
like the white people friendly place because of the one why actually there were two white guys there me and my brother-in-law and
Anyway, we weren't gonna go there just because of us. We were like, okay, we're gonna make the best of it
And I was I was actually far less open-minded about authentic food at that point. It was it was it was rough. So
Everything else honestly was not great either. I was like, yeah
No, I can understand why this doesn't cost very much because it's like very low-grade and that yeah
Some stuff was really good. Some stuff is really good. There were exceptions, but
Food in Vancouver is great. Yeah
ltx so don't think of it as like you have to buy a plane ticket just to go to like a one-day convention because a
It's two days now. It's two days now and it goes overnight
Which is something conventions haven't done in a long time and it's actually really cool cuz that like three or four in the morning
At a convention the whole vibe changes. Okay, so to be clear the actual booths will not be open
It'll be the B YOC area. I'm sure that's how it works everywhere. That's completely fine
But like the the whole vibe at the convention changes, it's really really cool. I suggest trying to stay up for a while
I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it. I
probably will
Okay, cuz like I'm gonna be on stage a lot
But you probably shouldn't even if you could and the night of the first day. I got my Backstreet Boys concert
I heard about that. You're actually gonna leave ltx to go there. Look the concert was booked
Wow, they moved the date while TX on me. I
Didn't have Wow. Look I never saw them when they were relevant
So Wow, I want to see that. Look look look. I'll be there all
Has your name on all day during the day?
No, I don't think it does does it Oh, I think isn't that for Linus tech tips?
Which is technically like a it's more of a brand than my name. It's at least two-thirds
Two thirds not my name you like to say your name's on the building
Well, I just yeah, that's just me like playing that, you know asshat character that I play but that's Luke see Luke
Anyways, so I'll go for the concert and then what I may do is come back for a bit
But I can't like stay up all night. No, you should sleep
I like have to be on stage and like yeah greeting things
it will probably make the show better if you see but I
I'm probably gonna buy a BYOC ticket anyway, just so that hopefully I can get in and play some games and stuff
Oh, right. Cuz yeah, no that makes sense. Well, no, I could get a free ticket, but for me
It's just more the principle of the thing. I'll just buy a ticket like there's gonna be a finite number of seats
And so if I was like, yeah, you know, I want a free ticket
My brother wants a free ticket and all my staff need free tickets and it's like
You know, this is a partnership. Yeah
We need to make sure that it makes sense for for dream hack and it makes sense for lines media group
Because you know who knows, you know
What this kind of turns into or doesn't turn into this is I think pretty experimental for both of us. Oh, yeah
So yeah, we're really excited about tournaments and stuff. I think their approach is going to be
Relatively low-key this time. Okay. I don't want to promise
Anything I don't like big professional tournaments. I mean like are they gonna do like I really don't know
I would love to like impromptu shoutcast a rocket League tournament because I've actually done this before really
Yeah, okay, and I actually think I'm pretty decent at it for rocket League. Okay, and that would be really fun
Well, you know what Colton I think is watching when show because he sent me this really upset message
I've been trying to fix the blog for an hour long
So I'm sure he heard you say that Colton if you want any amount of free help or labor
Outside of standard hours. I'm down to do whatever I will sacrifice my body to try to make LTX better
Well, I'm not even kidding
One thing that might help us make LTX better is making sure that we get through our sponsor today
Because if we don't survive until you know, the next LTX then that would be ashamed and that would be ashamed. Don't worry
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All right. Should we do some tech news?
We should probably talk about rising 3000 considering that's the title. Okay, correct
So the original article is from reddit of all places
That makes sense
There you go
Rise and 3000 will be on TSMC 7 nanometer HPC
so basically
Rise and 1000 and 2000 were built on Samsung's 14 nanometer low power process
this was part of the reason that there was a 4 gigahertz hard cap on clock speed like
Rising thread Ripper they are not overclockable. It's not that they're like hard to overclock. They're just
Not really overclockable
So because of this limit in terms of their frequency
They had a really hard time making up any ground on Intel's processors particularly in gaming where single-threaded
High clock speed performance is key
So then two is rumored to be made on TSMC's 7 nanometer high performance process
This could give us a 13 percent boost in clocks compared to low powers
4.6 gigahertz putting rise in 3000 over 5 gigahertz
Along with this we are expecting a 15 percent IPC improvement along with 8 cores per CCX which should mean less
communication between the interconnects and
faster memory
so if you were to extrapolate a
15% IPC so that's instructions per clock uplift plus a 15% improvement in the raw clock speed
That could be a 30% improvement
in performance
It is also
sort of
Anticipated that the specter meltdown foreshadow hardware fixes will hit Intel about 10% harder than Ryzen
Meaning it could be possible
That Ryzen 3000 could be 10% faster than core in single-threaded workloads
This is according to though reddit.com
slash R slash AMD stock
So take it with more salt that is was used to preserve this turkey, yeah, I
Do you like an attack stock? No, there's you know the problems there. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, okay
Long story. Yeah long story actually. Yeah
So no, but like
It's actually been pretty wild lately take this for what it is the only times I have ever owned tech stock
I owned like a couple thousand dollars of Nvidia probably
Pre LMG. So this must have been about eight years ago or something like that
And then I owned like I don't know five thousand dollars or something like that of OCZ
Shortly before they disappeared. No, I was I was I got out. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got out nice
All right
I actually I made a little bit of money on that stock and it was like kind of thrilling and it was cool and I
Was like I'm like playing the market
Apparently you did okay with that if you got out before yeah, I made money on Nvidia as well
But I pulled out because well, okay, I pulled out because I was like I'm new to this, you know
I made some money. Okay, I'm gonna like call that good. Yeah, and then
um
OCZ
Completely went supernova and I was like, you know what?
F this I'm out. I don't invest so I didn't put any money back into Nvidia which probably would have been a good idea
They were around $17 at that time
Anyway, I mean whatever it's all again
Then I got into LMG and it really seemed like a very obvious conflict of interest
duh, so
Anyway, take this from people who are sitting where we're sitting I have no
Ownership stake of any tech company. Actually, I don't think I own any stocks at all right now. Yeah zero zero stocks
And then do you own any no, no, okay
What tech stocks would you buy?
Hmm
And remember, okay
We're not gonna be experts when it comes to you know, the what is it the dead cat bounce or like whatever, you know
Like like all that
Stocky. Yeah investment II stuff. I'm just talking as
Over the next three to five years. Who do you expect to just kill it in terms of the actual tech which
Theoretically at some point although I can't quite find the correlation sometimes theoretically at some point should affect the stock price
Yeah, I see. Okay, that's actually one thing I was gonna bring up
It's like I don't know what current speculation is. So things could be inflated
I don't know if they are or not. But like if we completely ignore all of that, I
Genuinely do think AMD would be a good position. You think so?
Yeah, like long AMD short AMD is scary because they're like all over the place. Yeah. Yeah long AMD
like just to be clear I track it just because I'm curious but they're their platform for CPUs right now is really strong and
As we can see whether this rumor is true or not. The fact that it's like that could be possible
has a lot of
Potential in it and Intel's in a really bad spot. They're kind of locked
Intel looks good on paper because
Their revenue is great. Yeah
Their forecasting might look pretty darn good. But the problem is that and we talked about this a lot
Back when we talked about AMD launching their 32 core epic processors the long lead time on enterprise
where from the
Inception of a project like a supercomputer to the actual
Putting of CPUs into sockets could be a year 18 months two years
Like in some cases you end up actually building a custom facility for the damn thing
Before you even actually cut a PO for any computer hardware
Like that's the kind of scale these projects operate on so
Intel's revenues might look really good because they have contracts locked in from before AMD was even remotely competitive
But that situation can change and if AMD can stay
Very competitive and or even be a leader in certain aspects of that space
We're gonna start to see it soon, yeah and like
Okay, I don't want any of this to be interpreted as actually advising anyone to do anything
Please know as far as I'm concerned, please investing in stocks is gambling. Yeah, you might as well put
You know
10,000 on black and spin the wheel as far as I'm concerned because there are so many factors like you could definitely more to it
Than that but like yeah, you could have well yes and no
Because look at look at what happened to hard drives back in. What was it 2011?
When there was the the flooding in Thailand, right? Yeah, Thailand flooding
and it completely destroyed their revenue and then this is the crazy thing so destroyed their revenue everyone dumped them and
Then their profit margins went way up because supply was constrained and they were a hot item. Yeah
Yo, you understand
What is even going on like the business fundamentals never really changed here
I just think like instead of a what is it like forty eight point five or something percentage chance if you go on a black
Or red, I think you can try to push that percentage a little bit
Yeah, but you can also push that percentage at the blackjack table. That's true. Like you don't have to play roulette
You did use roulette
That's true
I'm just saying
Because like war could break out and it's and that will wrap and that's actually like a scary
Possibility like it's a funny thing to talk about because in our lifetimes our generation
There have been wars there was the war in Afghanistan
But if we're being if we're being honest of ourselves kill conflicts
That was not a war compared to the Second World War. Yeah, like the are the previous generation saw war
to the degree what that the entire country is
Mobilized, you know people who aren't working are kind of being rounded up to produce bullets in impromptu factories
so that the soldiers overseas will have enough bullets like
It's different. It's very different
And when that happens, there are some companies that can flourish and there's other companies that will absolutely not tech companies might actually even do
Okay, I wouldn't think consumer tech companies would do. Okay, but certain enterprise tech companies might do completely fine
So we're just trying to say that
No matter what it is. No matter how sure the outlook is
Anything could happen. So it really is a gamble. Well, I'm the only one that answered though. What do you what about you? Ah,
I have it. I have a few other like maybe interesting idea ones, but I want to I want to hear from you
This is something I've thought about so I really I don't know. I actually think Amazon is far from capped out personally for sure
like I I
I always have a problem with including them in this type of stack because you're talking I thought we were talking about like like
Tech companies were yeah. No, they make echoes and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, you're
Yeah, I think they have plenty of room to continue to innovate and continue to take over the world
Like if there's anyone who's gonna be the by-and-large from Wally, it's gonna be Amazon. Oh, absolutely
Have you seen there? They're like the revenue stack of Amazon versus all these other retail companies. No, it's
Insane, I don't know where that pictures from but it like it includes so many physical retailers
They're like really big names that are just a tiny fraction of the revenue that Amazon's pulling like it's absolutely madness
Yeah, I don't think there's an insight for them either
I think I think there's I think there's plenty of room for them, especially because they've already gone global
They've got they've through opening up India
and they are sophisticated so
Yeah, Amazon. I I wanted to put like a quarter of my net worth in Amazon like five years ago
Which like it wasn't, you know, like a huge amount of money or anything, but it was like a big bet for me
Well, and that was around the time that instead
We founded Linus media group
So, you know what Linus media group has been a worked out great, but Amazon also wouldn't
So, yeah, I I tried to get I sent a yeah was it a letter
I don't know. This was a long time ago pre halo 1
Yeah, I tried to the only person I knew that had any form of money
Was my grandpa so I like wrote a thing and gave it to my grandpa trying to get my grandpa to invest in Bungie
pre halo 1
Before the game was out. I was like, this is gonna be insane and I'm a kid. I have no money
I can't do it, but I'm like someone needs to do this and
That was a no
So there was no Bungie investment at that time. I don't even know if they were I didn't know anything back then
I don't know if they were publicly tradable company. Like I have no clue if that was even possible
I was just like I think my grandpa was just like, okay. Okay, my boy. Ah, do we have to talk about this?
I mean, wait what which one Oh, uh
So TF 2 used to be fun. Do you have to was so much fun?
And then they made it free to play and there were hats everywhere
That was legitimately when I stopped playing
TF 2 used to actually be really fun. The problem with free-to-play is that there's no
Real, there's no real venom in the in the VAC ban fangs
yeah, because you can just
Use do they still call them smurf accounts?
Yeah, okay
So you can just use smurf accounts and you can create as many accounts as you want and the ban just means nothing
IP is so easy to get around these days
It's very easy get a get a PIA subscription
I don't want to be like that
But it's kind of a different community in games where it's people who can afford to pay 20 bucks
Alright, so one thing that I'm gonna throw in here is prime status
So you were asking about this early on if you bought counter-strike before it went free-to-play
Uh-huh, you have prime status. And if you pay the equivalent of buying the game, you can buy prime status forever forever
it's a one-time purchase and
You can filter matches so that you only play against prime enabled people. Oh
Okay, so like my account okay, I actually didn't know that only plays against prime enabled accounts
So prime status matches you with prime and if I remember correctly for prime gun for prime
You have to like you have to put your phone number in
So like if your prime account gets banned your phone number gets banned
Okay
I'm like there's some other you I think you have to play a minimum amount before you can actually match make at that even if
You buy a prime account like there's there. I don't remember all of it
I'm sorry, but that there is additional requirements as well. Like yeah prime matchmaking is pretty cool
There is still plenty of hackers on prime matchmaking wingman before they the most people even in the counter-strike community
You know what wingman is but wingman before they enabled replays and before they enabled
What is it called the like was this person cheating
Watcher thing. I don't know what that's called
But whatever
Before they enabled either of those things was just a hive of villainy in terms of hacking and when they enabled those things it was
Insane the amount of people that got banned the next day because there was all these replays of people cheating in this special mode
That didn't have replays. So then just waves of bands. It was it was glorious because I liked to play that mode
But yeah, it's okay. So in addition to it going free-to-play and the prime status thing
There's also a battle royale mode one interesting thing about this battle royale
I like a bill that got passed that I'm not aware of
There's gonna be done a battle royale like
Is that actually because that'd be kind of cool. Is that a thing? All right, dota battle
Royale
New dota 2 has a battle royale mode. Yeah, I was like, I'm pretty sure yes. Oh, I already closed it. I'm over. Okay, so
Danger zone
Most battle royales. They're like a hundred people right? Mm-hmm. This is 16. That's not really royale
It's much smaller than battlefield. The map is really really tiny like it says in here the matches last about 10 minutes each
That makes sense
You can you can play in solo duo or trios. There's no quad
There's no squad or quad or whatever you want to call it
Quad
You you pick up guns and equipment and that armor and flashbangs and there is a
Self heal thing which kind of strike hasn't had before but there is a self heal thing, which makes sense
But you also pick up cash
This kind of strike has always had the buying mechanics, right? So you can buy stuff but a drone will deliver it to you
Okay, that's interesting
You have a tablet thing so you can see the map and you can see the drone coming to you
But everyone else can see the drone
And it drops it on you and like if you move a little bit, it'll go to where you are
So people can hunt the drones down
And this is actually a really if you haven't played before do this and get tons of free kills
Trust me you hunt the drone down you followed the drone and then you go to where it's dropping it
You sit a little bit away you wait for it to drop and then you just aim where it's dropping and some dudes gonna run
Up and try to get it. You just shoot them. It's amazing. Just free kills all the time. It's yeah, it's interesting
It's one thing that I like about it is the 10-minute matches. Even if you win, it's like a 10-minute match
Okay, thought faster
That's one improvement like battle roy. I had a lot of fun playing PUBG not Fortnite so much
But I had a lot of fun playing PUBG like the handful of times I was able to do it
Yeah, but it was just it's really long unless you could commit like three hours to a gaming session
You're not really gonna get into your groove even necessarily like we won our first and third game
I think it was so those matches are really long
Like they actually going for a very long time and that's been a problem with competitive games for a long time
Is that their matches last forever a competitive Counter-Strike match lasts a very long time competitive League of Legends match very long time
Dota 2 very long time. Lots of these games are really really long. So having 10-minute matches is actually very cool and
Like when you die or when you win, there's a play again button sitting right there. Click it you get right back into another game
It's really fast. Cool. Okay. Yeah
One plus is CEO. This was posted by dr. McIntosh on the forum
oh, the previous one was princess cadence and the previous one was
a
dais of voltage
OnePlus is CEO
Tells the truth about 5g
Here's from the verge and it's from an interview with Pete Lau about Qualcomm Snapdragon 855
Or no, it's that sorry. Is that the Snapdragon Tech Summit in Maui?
so he said his company is working on both a new 5g one plus phone and
4g phones in parallel
He expects the 5g phone will cost as much as two hundred to three hundred dollars more wrap your head around that
Holy cow, so 5g is coming, but it is not necessarily going to be mainstream
That is one hell of a premium. That's like a g-sync addition to your phone
So this might not be the case for all new smart 5g smartphones
Some might try to monetize their existing customer base as much as they can just saying well
You know people will pay for it
So we're gonna price it at whatever whatever we can while others might try to gain market share by offering 5g
connectivity at a cutthroat price
One of the challenges is going to be building 5g phones for multiple carriers that can operate on different that operate on different frequencies
so
Lau expects that it will be even more difficult now
This has gotten easier over time as the as the the antennas that have been integrated into our phones have gotten
broader and broader support for 4g LTE frequencies, but now
He expects it's gonna be even more difficult to take a phone from one carrier to another with 5g than it was for 4g
Interesting, they haven't seen a solution that would cover different carrier many carriers around the world, huh?
Well, that's interesting scary that is kind of scary as if phones weren't expensive enough already
So
OnePlus's 5g phone is targeting just one type of 5g network the slower speeds
But wider coverage area sub 6 spectrum used by EE its first carrier partner in Europe in the u.s
AT&T and Verizon are both focusing on the faster but lower range millimeter wave
Hmm and apparently on the product level it's much more complex than 4g like a significantly higher level of challenge, especially millimeter wave
Hi
It's gonna be interesting in places like the US
Where like I mean Canada has this problem too, but I literally think it's worse than the US the coverage areas are already terrible
That's rough, I mean you like shorter distance less penetration through walls
Signals, so this is interesting
Walmart has apparently dropped the pricing of their overpowered gaming PCs
I guess to just get rid of them and then I
don't know I guess to just get rid of them and either refresh them with better motherboards or
Just get rid of them outright
Fascinating it's too bad because I actually think that
There was potential for them to like there were processes that seemed to be fine across the board
I was surprised how many people were really upset about the USB 3 port being hot glued in. Oh
Yeah, I mean that just didn't make any sense to me, but I didn't think it was that big of a deal
Yeah, but like people thought it was just a horrendous thing. I like
Stuff gets hot glued into pre-built pieces all the time
Like that's actually quite common also round and shipment. Yeah and hot glue especially because you got to remember too
I actually didn't test it. I should have tested I should have pulled it out
There's lots of different kinds of hot glue
Some of them are actually designed to be quite easy to peel off like there are lots of electronics that have hot glue on them
Yeah, um
No, though. I thought you were gonna say you were surprised people were so upset about the USB 2 on the front
And I was gonna say no I was pretty upset about that the front ports were really bad
Two on the front and I was gonna say no, I was pretty upset about that. The front ports were USB 2. Come on
What year is it? Literally didn't even know what you're talking about. That sounds really stupid
Um
very very stupid especially with
The amount of USB 3 front headers you can get now
Like you can actually put a lot up there pretty easily
Was the CPU hot glued into no
No, no, they got that part, right?
All right, bringing us to the end of the show
With the super chats. Yeah
All right do an LTT beanie for real says Andrew there will be lots more merch stuff stay tuned
Yeah, stay tuned Liam says will this work it worked Liam
Mesh says what even what are these super chats?
Well, sometimes people don't like they say something within the context of what's happening at that exact second
On the internet. No one knows you're a puppy that didn't make sense at any point in this stream
No, his name is pup Shepherd though. So Daniel says when did you start growing a beard Luke?
Was it when your razor got too dull?
I don't want to talk about it. But uh, I am I'm looking for a barber because I'm gonna try to have it shaped
Okay, got it. I want to keep it going but it's a mess. So I just want it to be not a mess
Dennis asks
Dennis asks Linus is the 4790k still a good CPU or is it worthwhile to upgrade?
And if you were to upgrade would you choose ryzen or intel I mostly game
I would hold on to it. Oh, but I need more cores for other stuff
Okay, what other stuff? Yeah, that would be helpful to know if it's just for gaming. No, I would stick with that
Maybe overclock it a little bit
If you need to do other stuff
It depends what the other stuff is and how much of it you do if you do a lot of other stuff and it needs
A lot more cores i'd go ryzen. If not, then i'd probably go 8600k or something like that post on the forum
Yeah
um
Ssamjh says I just bought x470 and ryzen 7 2700x. So sad. No, don't be sad. It's a good good combo. You're right
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Dave says love ltt wanted to make another plea for a retro gaming video team up with retro rgb
Um, I don't know exactly what we do. You know, it's funny
We get like collab requests from other creators sometimes
And I got one quite recently that's like i'm like, yeah, sure. That would be kind of neat
But like what do we do? What would we do? I don't like
collabing just for the sake of
cross pollinating it feels
Icky, yeah cross pollinating. Yeah
I just
I just don't care
um
Barshall long sent $69. Of course he did thoughts on intel missing the 10 nanometer node
Oh
So
For one thing I do want to point out
They didn't entirely miss it. They do actually they are actually shipping 10 nanometer products right now
A lot of people don't know this they have nooks
That do have 10. Did you know this that have 10 nanometer processors in them?
Um, yeah. Yeah, so so they didn't they didn't miss it all together
But it's sort of in the same way that they didn't entirely miss broadwell
Yeah
Like broadwell consumer to be clear broadwell did make it to hedt and enterprise. Um, but yes, they did they did miss broadwell
And they they do appear to have missed 10 nanometer because from what i've been seeing
The rumor is they're kind of trying to go straight to seven now. Have you seen this as well? Yes. Um
I think we've known haven't we known that for a bit?
so
the thing about
Intel is a lot of people like to talk about intel as though intel is a person with a singular desire and a singular work
ethic and a singular
um sort of
Moral compass as though as though it was that simple intel is a lot of giant companies
They're a gigantic company something like a hundred thousand employees and they even just physical displacement of those employees is very notable
on the one hand
This is a pretty
Big black mark on what is otherwise an astonishing record of technological
innovation over the years
Uh on the other hand
To me, it's less about intel missing 10 nanometer
And more about intel missing 10 nanometer being indicative of where the technology industry is going
Over the next 10 years
We have taken for granted that things will just get faster and smaller
With better battery life. We just assume that every year there will be a new iphone
That is better than the old one in some meaningful way. Yeah
That may actually stop
And it's funny because I remember standing. It was really weird. It was kind of like it was kind of like a jesus speech
Because uh, roger kaduri had just come back to amd
And I kind of feel like they did it on purpose
Like he was supposed to become like the messiah to bring their graphics business back from the brink
Meanwhile, he's gone now. But anyway, that's a whole other thing
So he's standing we're in hawaii and he's standing at the top of this kind of hill and we're all kind of
Spread out in front of him at the bottom of the hill. No, really
Wow, like we had just kind of hiked up to this thing. It was it was cool. There were like rooms and stuff. Anyway,
Um, there was ruins and stuff ruins ruins. Yeah, not those kinds of rooms. I was like, this is getting pretty crazy
And he kind of stands up there and declares amd's graphics business to be a software business
And remember this was was he wrong how programmable have gpu's become in that time? Yeah
How programmable have gpu's become in that time? Yeah
And that's effectively
what
That's that's one piece of this of the puzzle of the direction that we are moving overall and intel missing a node
and
Your applications getting faster and your graphics in your games getting better
Anyway is sort of an indication of what is to come software tomfoolery
Like with vr the way that they will inject extra frames
To accommodate that graphics cards haven't gotten a lot faster or more certainly not more affordable
Software tomfoolery may just be the way it's gonna have to be go ahead
I think it might be the way it's gonna have to be for a little while
And then we will change how we're doing things
Like I mean risk five could come along and really change the game. Yeah, like like there could be
Completely different architecture styles, but that's gonna take time. Yes. Okay
I I I will I will agree with your stance probably for like a little while
But I I think I could see it doing that five years. Sure. Yeah, I could see that
But I think eventually we're gonna change how we do things and then we'll see advancement again in in in hardware
Or whatever it is at that time cuz like the challenge here
It's that if we can computing is a really cool if we could just keep pushing clock speed higher
It would be easier to compensate for some of the some of the trickery that has already made its way into the hardware products
I mean you look at what happened with specter and meltdown. Yeah, anything that requires a branch prediction, for example, which
Dramatically accelerates a CPU. I mean if you don't have good branch prediction in your CPU your performance is going to be
CPU your performance basically sucks these days and now all of a sudden there's these exploits
That are making it so that
It's becoming more challenging to implement these features
I mean smt there was uh, there was a group that came out and basically said hyper threading is insecure
We just like shouldn't use it anymore. Meanwhile poor AMD. Oh, man
We finally got it
We just added this
So
It's like everyone tells you about this party and you show up and you show up and everyone's leaving it's like oh
So thoughts on intel missing the 10 nanometer node
um
I don't think that in I don't think people are going to stop needing computing devices and I think intel is going to continue to be
A player in that space whether it's through innovating their own things or acquiring others or just marketing the heck out of themselves again
um
but
The industry as a whole
Has gotten less exciting to me. Oh, i'm not going to hide it
and I think that intel is a symptom as opposed to
the problem
I hope that answer is helpful
um
I can't read your username, but you said fortnite is for children
Uh warboy, please make a video. We saw this pc case in half and put it back together with the power of flex tape
Uh, no, uh hetero you hi dax. Hi
Uh, johnny. Hi
Wow, jenzi boy. I need a new phone. Is the vio next worth it?
I wouldn't go vivo next personally. I would go something with a better camera mckell says ordered your coffee should be here in a few days
You're going to be trying it the same time. I am because I actually haven't tried it yet. Really?
Well, I you I don't really drink coffee like as you know
Like as you know, yeah, and I wasn't actually in office when they were doing all the testing of like the different blends that they concocted
For us and stuff, but we had just about a dozen people here. Try it and like it. So
What what is the blend?
Do we know can you say well, I haven't tried it. Okay, that's fair
so i'll be trying it around the same time as everyone else and uh
By the way, don't pre-order but also I guess yeah think of it more like supporting ltt and less like pre-ordering
Um jodles. Hi. Cheers back to norway
Cordy asked ltx after party. Wow. No idea
Get back to you on that one. Cameron. It's time to fly up from florida for this. That would be awesome
It's gonna be awesome
I can't read your name because you're russian, but what's the dream hack?
Dang it. It's
Dream hack just google dream. Yeah
Um, but says what exactly is going on at ltx
Lots of stuff stay tuned to wancho. We're gonna be talking about it. It's gonna be great
geezus says best phone for gaming
gps
hotspotting
Bluetooth and charge. Oh and charging all at the same time in hot weather without overheating. I still play pokemon go
Oh, no
Uh, hey, hey jake that fan module for the rog phone that made a pretty big difference, right? Yeah
Like what five degrees ten degrees
I don't know. I don't know exactly degrees, but it felt a lot better. I don't remember it actually helped and actually, uh one plus
We found when we were evaluating the razor gaming phone one plus does a great job of the management of their cpus power states
so
Can't can't recommend those guys enough clement says will there be free madrina's coffee at ltx?
Probably not but knowing those guys maybe yeah, tommy says bring channels super fun back
Oh problem channel super fun. Yeah, you heard channel super fun
Hey one channel super fun video is like half edited right now. Really? What is it? It's the blog from bam
Oh really someone's spending time editing that mess
That's a shame. Well, uh
And their downtime well, no, I don't I don't even care. I just mean that must be painful
I think so. It was somebody who didn't go on the trip is editing it, too
Oh my goodness
That's kind of funny. Mr. Boisvert says dear ltt team, australia just passed a very problematic bill
To break encryption on any online service. I editorialized the very problematic bit. This is extremely problematic. What?
You have not have you not heard about this? We probably should have covered this on the show today. It's kind of a big deal
Um, basically they are mandating back doors
Why
Why? I mean, I don't think they're gonna do it
But if I was google and facebook and microsoft and amazon just don't and I knew
And I knew what was and I thought I knew what was best for my entire industry moving forward
I would completely pull out of australia like now
Let the australian people
Be super mad that they can't reach anybody on any services that they are accustomed to using
And beat down the doors of their elected representatives
And get this fixed the fact that australia is so messed up
In regards to how they deal with internet is just insane
It's it's such a mess
Yeah
Neon visual asks if I can bring the backstreet boys back to ltx. Oh my god at like four in the morning
We should play it on the speakers be so amazing. Yes, um anonymous
Got a dream job
I want to support my favorite youtubers sent five hundred dollars. Wow
Is that the maximum you can send in a super chat? I think so. I have no idea. There is a max. That's crazy
Holy crap. Thank you. Thanks anonymous. Um
We're glad to be your favorite. We're glad someone else wasn't your favorite
Um, nick says, thank you linus and the media group. I like that. It's kind of like a band
Linus and the media groups just
For giving me the confidence to build my first pc today rock on man. So does that count as having your name in it?
um
Linus in the media group. Wow. Okay. No, uh, no, it doesn't
All right, I think that's pretty much it thanks for watching you guys and we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
Goodbye
Same bad channel. Goodbye, and we'll see you on float plane next week. Yeah