Hey, welcome to the WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be a good one today.
The verdict was finally, finally rendered.
There's a ruling in the Apple versus Epic case, and they both won, which is another
way of saying they both lost.
So we're going to be talking through what exactly that means as our headline topic of
the show today.
In other, maybe less headline, but certainly concerning news, privacy-based email might
not be as private as you think it is.
We're going to be chatting about ProtonMail removing the whole, we do not keep any IP
logs bit from their privacy policy.
What else we got today?
If you thought that the Snapchat sunglasses were an absolutely smash hit, well, I've got
something for you.
Facebook now has sunglasses that can record video, and apparently my birds both want some.
We'll talk about those later.
Also Riot is enforcing TPM and Secure Boot in Valorant on Windows 11 PCs.
Really?
You think that's a headline topic, Luke?
All right, well, that's going to be a big deal.
That's going to be half the debate.
That's going to be half the debate, whether that's a headline topic or not.
Let's roll that intro.
What other topic would you have put a headline?
Oh, you're challenging me now.
How about Bitcoin becoming the legal tender in El Salvador?
Chaos ensues.
That's pretty good.
Wasn't there already chaos there?
How about the Sony PlayStation games showcase?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you care about that?
Do you know a single one of them ahead of time?
How about the Matrix Resurrections trailer?
Have you watched it?
OK.
All right.
So that really was all we had.
OK, fine.
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So let's jump right into Apple v. Epic.
Three months after the trial concluded, Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers ruled in favor of Apple
on most counts that Epic failed to show that Apple was a monopolist, that Epic breached
developer contract.
So the Fortnite ban was therefore justified and that Epic must pay Apple 30 percent of
the revenue from Epic Direct payments that were taken through Fortnite on iOS.
So that's approximately 12 million total revenue.
So I guess 30 percent of that from August to October 2020 and then an unknown amount
from November to the present.
But Epic did win on one important count, third party payment systems.
The ruling stated that Apple is not breaking antitrust laws, but that they are guilty of
anti-competitive behavior, which, in my opinion, is just another way of saying that the antitrust
laws need to be updated for the digital age.
But that's a whole that's a separate conversation.
Or that they need to make a new law, that anti-competitive behavior is bad.
I mean, what does it oh, OK, it doesn't matter.
The point is, through a permanent injunction, Apple is now restrained and enjoined from
prohibiting developers from including in their apps and their metadata buttons, from including
in their apps and their metadata buttons, external links or other calls to action that
direct customers to purchasing mechanisms.
So this has to be in addition, in addition to in-app purchasing.
And they are not allowed to prohibit developers from communicating with their customers through
points of contact obtained voluntarily from customers through account registration within
the app.
So basically, the way that it worked before for iOS apps was that unless you had so Netflix,
for example, just had a sign in, the app did absolutely nothing until you signed in and
you just had to somehow know already with your giant space brain that you had to go
on Netflix's website, whether it's on a PC or on your mobile browser, create a Netflix
account, pay for it, and then you could go sign in in the app.
So it just had to be this like blank wall with no instructions, which is obviously a
terrible customer experience.
So that's the way it worked before to manage, to have outside of App Store payments.
Now what the judge is saying is that Apple cannot prevent you from having a button in
your app that basically says, OK, click this to go create an account and pay.
And then you can go back to the app and use it as you normally would.
It's way less toxic now because that's like if they don't want you to be able to pay through
the app or whatever, like that's kind of weird and stuff, but at the very least, let us communicate
that to the user, etc.
And previously, the answer to that was no.
And now the answer to that is going to have to be yes, which is way better because at
least we can tell people what's happening.
That was the most frustrating thing is people would message our support and be like, yeah,
like I tried to use your app, but like it was really weird.
I couldn't like do stuff.
It's like, yeah, we know there's nothing we can do about it.
Yeah.
Now, Tim Sweeney seems to think that this isn't a win for developers.
I was going to jump in with something real quick here.
Now, something that I don't know is how exactly how exactly this is going to be implemented.
So the judge did specify buttons, external links or other calls to action.
Apple has to allow them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Apple has to allow third
party payment services within the app itself.
So it might only be a link leading outside of the app, like in Japan.
So South Korea, meanwhile, has made it so that Apple has to allow in app third party
payment services.
So we don't know what this is going to end up looking like in the US.
Either way, there's at least something you can do here.
This is significantly better than what it was.
I'm going to go through Tim Sweeney's statement really quickly because I want to say a statement
that applies to both things.
Tim Sweeney said this isn't a win for developers or for consumers.
Epic is fighting for fair competition among in-app payment methods and app stores for
a billion consumers.
So I would say this isn't like winning the war for developers and consumers.
No.
This is definitely a win of a battle.
This is definitely a significant improvement over what we had before.
This isn't what Tim wants and this isn't the end goal of what I would want.
No.
But it's still way better than what we had.
And Mr. Sweeney overall is not super happy.
I actually read through everything he's tweeted since the judge issued this ruling and he's
overall, overall not impressed.
And we're in a situation now where even though Epic kind of won in terms of now they can
just have a button in the Fortnite app that could link you to a website where you could
buy V-Bucks, Tim is still saying, and I should say Tim Sweeney because Apple also has Tim
Cook.
This is Tim versus Tim grudge match.
So Tim Sweeney also probably recognizes that entering payment information separately from
what you've already got set up with touch ID or face ID is a significant source of friction.
And you hear the term friction used a lot to talk about getting customers from the,
from the awareness end of the sales funnel to the transaction end of the sales funnel
and the less friction you can have along the way, the better.
And we've probably all done it, whether it's the friction of, you know a tedious like a
tedious oh, what's the word I'm looking for those stupid little yeah, a tedious CAPTCHA
that you have to do in order to get to the cart and yeah, you know what?
I just didn't really need that thing that badly anyway, or your auto-fill for your payment
information not working.
You know what?
Maybe I'll buy this later and then you never do things like that.
Like Amazon.
It's also the other end just to talk about low, low friction.
That's the entire reason why when you're going through a lot of stores, I know Best Buy is
really funny for this because they basically put you through a maze.
And that the walls of that maze are little things that don't cost way too much, you know,
but it's very easy for you to just be going by, oh yeah, I could grab one of those.
I need some batteries.
I could take some chips.
I could use a new whatever, just cable, HDMI cable, whatever.
They have all those things lying around the end because it's very low friction to grab
those and buy them at the end.
So Tim Sweeney is not happy with the ruling and there's other reasons for him to not
be happy.
Apple recently rejected Epic's request to reinstate its developer account so that they could relaunch
Fortnite in South Korea, where third party in-app payments will soon be required on iOS.
And that's obviously the thing that got Fortnite banned in the first place.
But here's the thing.
Apple is not legally under any kind of obligation to reinstate Epic's dev account until they
fall in line outside of South Korea, where that is not the law, at least not yet.
So if Apple decides that they want to be vindictive about this, which I could absolutely see this
being real personal here at this point, Fortnite might not ever return to iOS devices.
Apple says that they're happy with the ruling.
I really doubt it, but I think for Apple, this third party payment systems battle is
clearly over now that we've seen rulings in Japan, South Korea and the US.
It's a matter of time before this flood just cannot be held back.
So what else are they supposed to say about it?
But it's also possible that both companies will appeal at some point.
So it could be that none of this is final.
So overall, here's really our discussion around this.
Luke, is this a win for consumers?
That's question number one.
And for developers, developers and consumers.
And you can speak to both of those from your own personal experience.
So like I said earlier, I think this is the win of a battle, but not the win of a war.
I think this is a better experience for consumers.
And I think you are able to make a product that doesn't feel basically just like broken
as a developer because like coming from a developer standpoint, not being able to communicate
to a user that something is going wrong is really just dumb and bad.
Like yeah, you screwed up.
If something goes wrong or the user can't do something, you should be community.
Like that's really, really basic user experience.
You should be able to communicate to the user what is wrong or give the user an option.
And the fact that you couldn't do either of those things in the past is terrible.
And it was a really bad user experience for the consumers, right?
Like oh, I want, let's use Netflix.
I won't even use Floatplane.
I want Netflix.
I'm a new Netflix subscriber.
I am one of many people in the world that are mainly consumed content through my phone.
I'm going to open the Netflix app on my phone.
What?
Like what do I do?
Am I just not allowed to use Netflix?
Is it maybe not fully compatible with my phone?
It's just a terrible user experience across the board.
So yeah, I think it is an improvement, but I do agree with Tim that this isn't like a
full win.
This isn't a win of the war.
Now here's kind of the big question at this point.
I think when this whole thing went down, you and I were, I think pretty close to being
on the same page that Epic was doing the right thing.
I mean, fundamentally, I agree with them that Apple is, and you could call it, you could
call it monopolistic.
You could call it, you could say it's, it's an antitrust violation.
You could say it's anti-competitive.
It doesn't matter because they're all just kind of heads, different heads of the same
monster.
It's all a company abusing a position of power that makes it impossible for other entities
to compete with them.
And abusing a position of power that in a way that they wouldn't be able to if other
entities were able to compete with them in a, in a completely fair and open market.
And the word fair, I used that intentionally because it can mean a lot of different things.
You could make the argument that the competition that we have now is, is fair because someone
else could just make a really great product and make lots of money and lobby lawmakers.
That's fair.
Well, yeah, that's like a kind of fair, but not everyone actually has those kinds of resources
and that shouldn't be, might should not make right.
Right should just be right.
So I think you and I were kind of on the same page that Epic was absolutely fighting a just
and noble battle, but for not necessarily the most just or noble reasons.
You know, obviously they had their eye on that, you know, 30% of the money that they
could, that they were just giving to Apple for.
There's a huge amount of personal gain for, for Epic going into this.
Yeah.
They claim it as like, Oh no, we're, we're just doing this for everyone else.
And like, yeah, if they, if they win that full war that I've been referencing, uh, that
would be very positive for everyone else.
Let's say this is as far as it gets.
Did they effectively just throw themselves upon their own sword for nothing but the benefit
of everyone else?
Because if they don't intentionally, but that's probably why Tim's upset.
If they don't get their developer account reinstated, they are not going to be getting
any V bucks anywhere.
Even where payments are mandated or third party in-app payments are, uh, allowed by
law.
Uh, so they will get literally nothing and we'll have burned all of that sweet, sweet
70% of V bucks money that they could have taken, uh, for, I mean, years, years of potentially
being off the app store.
I mean, Apple as a, an organization, um, to, to, to imagine that they would be anything
other than vindictive about this crusade that Epic has made very personal.
I wouldn't actually say that it's Apple that made this personal.
Epic has made it, has made it, they've, they've taken it public, they've appealed to their
individual users to try to sort of wage a war of, of consumer pressure against Apple.
Like they've fought tooth and nail and you could even make the argument they fought pretty
dirty here.
Um, but at the end of the day, I guess when it was, was fighting pretty dirty, dirty before
Epic even joined the ring.
So I think, I feel like they kind of stoop to their level, but yeah, I, um, it's, it's
interesting.
I appreciate, you know, I appreciate the, the handout, um, from the company that seems
to be very happy to steal everything they can from everyone else.
Thanks Epic.
I appreciate it.
Um, they like, or not steal, but like direct copy, I guess.
I just, every time I start trying to think about Epic in a positive light, I'm like,
Oh yeah, they just like completely copied PUBG and then Among Us.
Very cool.
Maybe they're not entirely on the side of like other developers, you know?
Yeah.
But, but yeah, this was, like I said, this, this is a benefit for us.
This is a big benefit for flow plan.
I'm very happy that this happened.
Um, it's this, it is going to be very nice to be able to communicate to our users properly
about what's going on.
Do I think this is going to like drive a bunch of subscriptions?
No.
Um, do I think it's going to create some less confused people?
Yeah.
All right.
Now let's talk about, this is, this is kind of one of the big topics of this week.
Um, ProtonMail, ProtonMail has had a reputation for a long time actually.
I mean, this goes, man, how long has ProtonMail just kind of been the defacto, you know, private
email service?
Cause it's, it's free.
Unlike a lot of, a lot of sort of private, uh, like, uh, private mail services, um, they
had a really Bulletproof looking privacy policy.
And when I say had, I really do mean had, uh, this is kind of a big deal.
ProtonMail has removed a statement from their privacy policy that said that they do not
keep any IP logs.
So, uh, Luke, why would it be important that your email provider not retain IP logs?
Well because if, if someone either broke into that service, um, so like black hat hackers,
um, or something of that sort broke into that service, they could, they could acquire that
data.
Um, or if they are asked for that data by some form of government entity, if they, in
both of those cases, if they just don't have it, it's really not that big of a problem.
Um, if they get broken into by some, some hackery boys or girls or whatever, um, and
there's nothing there for them to take, it doesn't really matter.
Right.
It's a little spooky and you go out and maybe sat down the hatches a little bit, but you
didn't lose anything.
So who cares?
Um, but if you are holding all this data, then it's, then it's an issue and it's there.
And uh, it could be a regulator that's going after it.
So ProtonMail is a Swiss company and they were obliged to follow a Swiss court injunction
demanding that they begin logging IP addresses and browser fingerprint information.
So the account that they went after was, uh, operated by a Parisian chapter of Youth for
Climate.
Um, their cause is fighting against gentrification, high end establishments and real estate speculation
among other things.
Um, ProtonMail points out that the email contents were not handed over, just logging info, uh,
because the email body itself is encrypted with keys that are unavailable to the servers
that are processing them.
So is ProtonMail still chill then?
I would not say 100% chill, you know.
Now Vixavious in the floatplane chat says, ProtonMail's response to this issue was absolutely
a plus, full honest.
Uh, the issue is absurd.
You should not use email for any kind of secure communications.
I mean, okay, fair enough, but you might need to, um, and if people understood, at least
thought that ProtonMail was this completely secure method of communication, uh, that was
the reputation that it had.
Yeah, exactly.
It's been communicated that way.
Um, now Vixavious also says that ProtonMail cannot access your email and you can get around
this by simply using a fake IP, uh, with a VPN or with Tor.
So I guess it comes down to that there is no such thing as just, you know, one tool
that you can use to maintain your privacy and or your anonymity online.
Uh, I think a lot of VPNs have gotten themselves in hot water by claiming that a VPN is some
kind of magic bullet that makes you anonymous online.
And in the same way, ProtonMail probably just needed to, or maybe look at, maybe this is
the community's fault.
It might've been, yeah, it might've been communication, so bulletproof, but in the same way, ProtonMail
is not just a, a one size fits all perfect way to maintain absolute privacy.
Uh, you need a combination of tools and not just tools, but also best practices.
I mean, even Tor is not enough to maintain your privacy.
Um, for example, uh, if you will use Tor at your native resolution and you happen to be
running a, uh, a Surface Book 2, let me just double check what the resolution of this thing
is.
Um, yeah.
Okay.
This one's pretty good.
Which runs at 3240 by 2160.
That's a very unusual resolution.
One of the things that websites can see is what the resolution of the display that you're
browsing from is.
So that's the reason that Tor will actually launch at a default small window size.
And you're not supposed to adjust it.
You're supposed to leave it like that because as soon as you start giving a website any
bit of information, you can start to create like as you, as you click through and navigate
or, uh, visit frequently accessed sites, um, they start to look for patterns and they can
start to put together a fingerprint for you that can be used to maybe not identify you,
the individual, you know, Jeremy Smith, but to identify you and start to build an advertising
profile for you, which is, is usually what these online services are after so that they
can send you parking ads.
There's one Jeremy Smith out there that like wasn't really paying that much attention.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden it's like, whoa, sorry, I should clarify Tor browser, Tor browser.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Um, Oh man, Jack of gamers asks, what do you think of PA's new multi hop option?
I have not actually looked into it, but if it's what it sounds like, then it's going
to hurt latency, but improve privacy.
So Hey, there you go.
So overall, this is not the end of the world.
You can absolutely continue to use proton mail.
You just need to be aware that every time, and I mean every time you log into proton
mail, you should be using a VPN and ideally you should be making sure that you are accessing
it from a different VPN end points.
So you should, you should, yeah.
And especially if you're like, there's a note about this too.
Um, there's a discussion question.
If you're an activist of any sort, is it time to use Tor browsers and VPNs?
Can you trust anonymous email services?
I would answer that somewhat indirectly by saying if you're, if you're an activist in
a country that is dangerously oppressive to what you're being an activist about, um, I'm
not going to try to make any like, you know, assumptions about what that is or where you
are or anything like that.
I'm just talking generally.
What are you trying not to get us deleted in China?
I wasn't even thinking much.
Have you seen some of the stuff they've been doing lately?
No, I've been checked out to be completely honest.
Mulan is like deleted from the internet.
The actress, I mean, like just like their new thing is if you are, if you are not, if
you are not waving the flag hard enough, you simply do not exist anymore.
It's a whole thing.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Um, don't trust anything.
The question here is can you trust anonymous email services?
Don't trust anything.
Layer up, um, use multiple endpoints, try to use the most secure thing you can pay attention
to these types of things that are happening.
Watch the news for the various services you use like proton mail, make sure that it's
still kind of above board and be ready to switch very quickly and don't be dependent
on any one thing.
Don't use just one VPN, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Yep.
All right, man.
I love hopping into YouTube chat every once in a while.
It's just, man, it manages to be so off topic.
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Yeah, that's man.
We're small enough that, and everyone's kind of, you know, trusted enough that we've never
really worried about people just, you know, taking their work devices home or bringing
their home devices to work.
We're all also reasonably tech savvy, but we are getting to the point where we're not
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so that people can't just start poking around at stuff like I have no idea exactly how much
an asset like the Linus tech tips YouTube channel is worth.
But a fair bit, I would imagine, you know, to the point where if I was some kind of very,
if I was a savvy and yet stupid bad actor, you know, I, I might, I might infiltrate the
organization, uh, you know, try to social engineer my way into the credentials and then
take off with it.
Not realizing of course that I literally have a phone number for someone at YouTube who
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No, I don't think so.
You never watched the, Oh my God, how have you never, do you mean like the ones where
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weird stuff like that?
Yeah, just, just like the weirdest, just the weirdest stuff that happens.
I don't think I've watched a compilation of it, but I have seen a lot of them.
So I don't, yeah.
I don't know.
Have you ever seen the one that's intercut with like metal gear, solid gameplay where,
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Yeah.
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I have not watched the Matrix Resurrections trailer.
Oh my goodness, dude.
I was saving it.
I was saving it for this.
So hold on a second.
Here we go.
Okay.
I'm ready.
Are you ready?
Are you showing it on screen?
I was going to.
I guess I'm going to end up getting the stupid stream.
That's what I'm thinking.
You know what?
Yeah.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
This is my genius anti-copyright strike strategy.
It's the number one on YouTube trending right now.
I got this.
I got this.
Hold on a second.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Okay.
I'm just going to put, I'm just going to take this and I'm going to put this right here.
Okay.
Here we go.
Let me know.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Right out of the gate.
Can I just say that this looks really fake?
Oh, it's one of the fakest looking shots I've ever seen in a modern movie.
How does it look this fake?
Like I think, I think Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone had better CGI and that
came out in like 2001.
The worst part is I actually started this for a while and really questioned because
it looks really, really fake, right?
But it looks so fake to the point where I was like, is it actually real?
And just like shot weird.
It could be.
It could be.
Are they trying to put you off here?
You know?
It looks like a render.
Okay.
Here we go.
Here we go again.
Okay.
We got a cat.
There's a black cat.
Black cat.
Seem particularly triggered right now.
Okay.
Has Keanu ever won sexiest man alive?
I don't know, but I feel he deserves it.
In my heart he has.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's in the bath.
He's praying in the bath.
Oh, oh, sup Trinity.
Okay.
Wait.
So this is like a reboot.
He doesn't know he's Neo again?
Right now, yeah.
Notice the blue pills though.
What?
And then he throws the blue pills away and then Alice in Wonderland, which was a big
part of the first one.
And then the mirror and Morpheus is back, except you were there and you were there.
Not really.
Cause it's not the same guy cause he dies in a video game and they're treating that
as cannon.
Really?
Yep.
Why?
Who knows?
Okay, wait, so this is just, this is just the matrix.
He has to learn about the matrix again?
I mean, in fairness, uh, you know what?
I think I'm done.
I think I'm done here.
Uh, in fact, in fairness, I mean the, the, the, the matrix sequels kind of had the Superman
problem where as soon as your superhero can do anything and jump back to it and jump to
two minutes and 28 seconds.
I mean, I was almost there anyway, I guess.
Okay.
So there's a bunch of action sequences.
There's cool people with guns.
There's big, none of that matters.
Okay.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, we're going back to the future, Linus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, okay.
Right.
So back to what I was saying, like I, I don't, I don't personally really enjoy, um, superhero
franchises where the super is too super.
I find Superman incredibly boring.
I find, uh, captain Marvel incredibly boring for the same reason.
Cause they're basically the same hero.
Um, I, I, I think that's a big part of why, uh, why iron man sort of kicked off the modern
superhero obsession that we have because he was deeply flawed, like really extremely unlikable
for the vast majority of that movie.
And that, that's sort of, that's why he's great cause he's actually just sort of like
a garbage tier guy with no fighting skills.
And he's like a jerk and um, like he's very, he's actually really weak without his suit
of armor, whether it's a metaphorical suit or a literal suit, you can kind of get into
that if you really feel like it.
I don't, I don't feel like it.
And so Neo was inherently boring as soon as the first film was over because he's like
too powerful.
How do you keep raising the stakes?
You just, you have to have, you have to have monsters that are, you know, literally the
size of planets for him to fight.
You know what I mean?
Like it just, it's just, it's boring.
Right.
So I guess, you know what, I've talked myself into it.
I'm going to see it.
I'm going to see it on, I'm going to see it right at, right at launch.
I'm, I'm excited now.
Nice.
Reboot.
You are excited.
I am.
I'm ready.
You're genuinely excited.
I'm ready for, I'm ready for us to just kind of do this, but, but do it better because
honestly speaking, 1999, The Matrix, um, revolutionary at the time, pun, pun intended.
We're not actually, yeah, revolutionary at the time, um, not a great movie.
You go back and rewatch it, like knowing the twist now that it's not really a twist anymore.
And it's like, eh, it's okay.
I think it also got copied a lot though, which is part of the reason why it's not very great.
I know.
I know.
So, so, you know, let's, let's revisit the idea with modern sensibilities, uh, you know,
Keanu's back, uh, for whatever reason, a video game is canon.
Uh, you know, let's just, let's just let that, we'll let that happen.
I'm going to be open-minded.
I'm, I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Go ahead.
Oh yeah.
Go ahead.
I don't know everything that happened.
I just read something online about how apparently they are treating, I believe it was The Matrix
MMO and like one or two other video games or something as I was like, yeah.
Did anyone even play that?
I thought, no, there was a surprising amount of comments of people be like, well, I played
the MMO and it was amazing.
And the writing was really good because like the Wachowskis were, I hope I pronounced that
correctly, uh, were involved.
Um, but I, I knew no one that played and I, and I know that it went down like really quick
probably because their player numbers were abysmal.
Um, do you know about the project where like, I think it was one guy or something tried
to like reverse engineer the, the Matrix online like servers and like tried to save as much
of the game as possible and tried to make like, uh, is, is that, is that project still
still active?
I heard about that years ago, but I have no idea what happened with it.
Uh, I'd like, I'd love to, yeah.
Floatplane chat was not super, super into, uh, not super into the Matrix online.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I'm excited to see this movie.
I don't trust that it's going to be good, but I'm excited to see it in the same way.
Uh, maybe not the same way.
No, not nearly as doom and gloom.
Um, but I feel like, I don't know if excited is the right term either.
I feel like I need to go see it in the same way that I needed to go see all the new star
Wars movies.
Oh no, no, no, no.
I'm not, I don't, I'm not anywhere near as doom and gloomy, but I think it's going to
be not good.
No, the Matrix is not dead to me in the way that star Wars is.
But then again, I never saw the last one.
I just didn't.
Last Matrix.
Yeah.
It's I believe you.
The second one was bad enough that I had absolutely no need to see the third one whatsoever.
So maybe that saved me.
Maybe that makes it so that I can, I can go into Matrix four, like ready for it to not
be bad.
So someone said, Luke's just a Keanu fan boy.
Yeah, he's fantastic.
And he, he might make the movie like acceptable to a certain degree, you know, in the same
way that like they probably could have made the new star Wars movies somewhat decent if
they actually let Mark Hamill act, uh, that would have been pretty sweet.
He like actually really can act for someone who didn't do a ton of acting work and most
did mostly did voice acting work is awesome.
I love Mark Hamill.
Hold on a second.
So you say you're a big Keanu fan.
Did you actually watch the new Bill and Ted movie?
No.
Me neither.
So can you really say you're a Keanu fan if you didn't even bother to watch the new Bill
and Ted?
I'd watch it with you.
I mean, um, I, it came out during quarantine, didn't it?
I think so.
Yeah.
Is it, is it on a streaming service now?
I haven't heard of it being on one.
Um, but I wasn't going to see movies like when that came out.
Doesn't matter if I'm a fan or not.
I'm also like, if I'm a fan of an actor or actress, it's not that much of a fan.
I don't really, I don't really like follow movies and stuff that much.
I just think Keanu's like pretty cool.
And I like a lot of the stuff that he's in, but yeah.
All right.
I'm ready.
I'm ready for the Matrix resurrections.
Um, did you watch the Sony PlayStation showcase?
Uh, no, but I followed a fair amount of it.
The Knights of the Old Republic remake, I am very excited for the concept.
If you click on this link, you're going to see a trailer.
Um, it's one minute and seven seconds and like, yeah, it looks cool except there's text
at the bottom of the screen.
It's not actual gameplay and it's like the most simple freaking cinematic you could ever
imagine that is not actual gameplay and is very likely and possibly not an engine.
So it just means nothing like, ah, um, this is exciting because I never played KOTOR back
in the day and I've wanted them to make a remake like this whole time because as much
as I like retro games, man, KOTOR is particularly really painful to go back and play like Baldur's
Gate or something like it, the mechanics, how you move around, how you interact with
things, how you do all that kind of stuff is really bad.
Like it's, it's genuinely kind of like tough to slog through.
I've tried a couple of times and I've never really made it through, even though the game
is quite interesting.
So I'm pretty excited for the remake, but what, what a waste of a trailer.
There's definitely some other interesting games, this Forespoken game.
Some of the graphics in it look just incredible.
Some of the other graphics in it look very old and not good, which is kind of confusing.
Like sometimes I'm like, wow, that's like really close to photorealistic.
That's amazing to be on like a PS5.
And then you'll see their hair just move as if like Nvidia Hairworks was never invented.
And it's just like, wait, what's happening?
Why?
But the, it looks, if you're, if you're more of the AMD persuasion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looks interesting though, for sure.
And then, yeah, I don't know.
There's some other interesting stuff, but a lot of it's PlayStation exclusives.
Tiny Teen is Wonderland looks like it, it could be potentially interesting, but I haven't
really been interested in something from, from that line in a while.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Grand Theft Auto 5 being delayed is like genuinely hilarious.
I don't know if there's notes about that in here.
Yeah, there is.
Just that it's delayed until March of 2022 or something like how dude, I don't know.
How can a game that's already out be so, so delayed?
And you know, like a bunch of people would buy it too.
That's the crazy part.
It's just free money on the table and they're just like, ah, we'll do it later.
I don't know.
You never know though.
It's possible that Rockstar is working on something behind the scenes that is going
to blow all of our minds away.
Yeah, but lots of companies outsource the, the.
And how well does that work out for the Luke?
Yeah.
I mean, not exactly that.
How well does that work out for them?
So sometimes it works out quite well, usually.
Well you can't have it both ways, Luke.
We always say release it when it's done.
So you know what I say?
You release GTA 5 when it's done, which by my watch is 10 years ago.
So five years ago, when it had to come out, so 2013, excuse me, sorry, eight years ago.
My bad.
My bad.
I'm just teasing.
I'm just teasing Rockstar.
I'm sure you guys are working on something that's amazing.
Something better than this.
Oh boy.
So check out this press release from Facebook.
That's right.
Smart glasses are here that basically look the same.
Oh no, there's music.
Oh, awful.
See you later.
Smart glasses are here that basically look like regular old fashionable frames, which
is really cool if you're into wearing smart glasses and kind of terrifying if you're into
not wearing smart glasses, but being anywhere near someone who happens to be wearing smart
glasses.
Like, oh, say for example, a bathroom.
So they start at $2.99, which is kind of crazy to me because Essler, Luxottica and Facebook.
This must be, this must be that Facebook subsidy money.
You know how the Oculus Quest 2 is like by hundreds of dollars, the best value VR headset
on the market by a country mile, like not even close.
Well, that's the Facebook subsidy money that is making it so affordable.
And Essler, Luxottica is not exactly known for, um, no, no, they're, they're, they're
very happy to have their, uh, their monopoly.
I was, I was going to make a joke.
If I opened this topic, I was planning on making a joke with Facebook and the only company
that makes sunglasses have teamed up to make story sunglasses.
Pretty much.
Um, so if this is coming in at $2.99 with dual five megapixel cameras that can record
video and photos from this first person perspective, you can bet that Facebook is subsidizing the
crap out of it because they are expecting some kind of real awesome data.
Now video recording is capped at 30 seconds to address privacy concerns, uh, but the quality
is a square 1184, uh, at 30 frames per second.
So that's 1184 by 1184.
They have four gigs of storage, meaning that you could restore, you could record probably
a fair number of 1184 30 P clips.
Um, but mostly videos and photos are managed and stored in a separate Facebook view app.
The sunglasses include a triple microphone system for audio recording, phone calls and
Facebook assistant, which I actually did not even know they had.
And there are speakers in the arms for audio playback.
These are not headphones or bone conduction.
They are speakers.
The selling point is they're comfortable, fashionable and lightweight, just like normal
sunglasses and make basically every other smart glasses we've seen so far look kind
of bulky and stupid, but that also makes it hard to tell that they are video and audio
recording devices.
And you might think, Oh, well whatever.
It's in the news.
Everyone's just going to know that Facebook sunglasses are a thing and you know, if you're
wearing sunglasses inside, they'll just be like, Oh yeah, those are Facebook glasses.
I can, I can see the lens through the thing.
But you got to understand not everybody, you know, consumes tech news and not every way
that these could be used to covertly record someone, um, would be that obvious.
Say for everyone consumes tech news.
I know, right.
They should.
They should.
Not everyone sees the quick bits.
You need your daily dose of tech news.
Okay.
Go to tech lane three times a week.
Um, so what if they're not wearing them, right?
What if they throw them in a, in an upper pocket and just, you know, part of it is sticking
up out of the pocket or they throw the arm over the pocket kind of thing and it's hanging
on the front of them.
You, you wouldn't necessarily look that closely at that.
You might not realize that you are being recorded.
Um, they have a little light, um, but I mean, just like RP over the light or like electrical
tape on it or something like, I dunno, yeah, it's interesting.
Now Facebook says that, um, to address privacy concerns, um, they worked with a list of advocacy
groups that they consulted when they were developing the glasses.
Um, but New York times reporter, Ryan Mack noted that Facebook has actually funded at
least four out of these five groups that they said they consulted at least at least it might
be all five.
It could be all five for all we know for, Oh my goodness.
I mean, to be honest with you, the, I, the, the, um, the prospect of being able to record
truly first person view footage is really exciting to me as a, as a content creator.
Um, one of the times that I did it was the, uh, POV PC build, uh, this video right here.
Something just while you're bringing that up, something I would say is, is however you
feel about this and say these get banned by the government, like they, they never even
come out.
So your opinions don't even matter.
Basically never assume privacy.
That would be a big tip.
Yeah.
Never pick your nose in your car ever again.
Um, so right.
So what's so cool about this video is that instead of having the webcam on top of my
head, like people would normally mount them if they had any sense, uh, it was actually
the webcam, excuse me, GoPro.
It was actually mounted to a headband and then upside down.
So the camera was right in front of my eyes and that's why compared to when people wear
like a helmet mounted GoPro, it looks and feels way more natural.
Just that few inches, just that few inches, having the lens closer to where your eyes
would actually be makes an enormous difference to, um, the consumption of, of this type of
content.
So man, I could, I could see all, I could see all kinds of things being, um, way more
shareable, um, like experiences, uh, with this technology.
I just, I have, I have deep concerns, honestly, not even in the video so much like the audio
too, just being able to, if it's got a three microphone array, I am willing to bet, especially
based on what Facebook, like the kind of R and D that they've been doing around, uh,
audio for VR, for example, I am willing to bet this microphone is pretty darn good for
something that can be concealed on your body in a way that most average people would never
notice.
All right.
Yeah.
Uh, I know when, uh, when Google glass came out, there was a special name for people that
wore them, which you didn't even use the button.
Oh, well I didn't say a bad word.
Glass is not a bad word and holes is not a bad word.
Therefore a compound word made up of those two words, glass holes cannot be a bad word.
Fair.
Yeah.
Easy solved.
Um, that was a big thing.
People like really, really stood up against it.
Yeah.
Haven't seen that this time around.
I think there's been a lot of de-sensitization to this type of stuff lately.
Um, and it just, yeah, I think this one might make it through.
Floatplane chat is just going on about porn.
Uh, John Wick says it could be useful as a dash cam for riding a bike.
Unfortunately not because it is limited to 30 second clips at a time.
Uh, John says, I'd be way more okay with this if literally anyone else made it besides Facebook,
but should you be, I mean, would it be any better having people just be able to access
to it in some way?
Yeah.
Um, Oh yeah, man.
There's there's so much, uh, QWERTY Sam says the arguments against these glasses are no
different than phones.
You know, you could already secretly record anyone with your phone.
It's it is more difficult.
Uh, and someone, someone brought this up, uh, Punit said, I've seen some disgusting
stuff here in city.
I'm not going to name a particular city, but I've seen a guy filming a girl from behind
on a flight of stairs in public.
Like if people could do it without pulling out their phone, yeah, I don't, I don't like
it.
I don't like it.
Uh, uh, good point.
The mad maker says hackers can already make them.
Yeah, that's fair, but they wouldn't be as no offense, stylish and innocuous.
All right.
Our last big topic for the day is riot will be enforcing TPM and secure boot in Valorant
on windows 11 PCs.
Now you picked this as a headline topic.
Tell me why you think this is that important.
Uh, because nothing else that was in here was really that important.
And I find it kind of interesting, um, because riots, the last time they did this, they did
it, they did a whole ring zero BS thing that people were upset about and how they're doing
TPM.
Um, I really liked the idea that they are hardcore cracking down on cheaters in specifically
the shooter game space.
Uh, the first person shooter space, um, there's cheaters in basically everything.
Um, but, but cheating in first person shooters has been really rough for quite a while now.
Um, back when, when we were the young ins cheating in first person shooters was absolutely
a thing, but I would highly argue that it was a lot less common because it was really
rough and these days it's very easy to the point where they will run ads on like YouTube
to try to get you to go to their website and you'd go to their website, you pay through
a payment processor that isn't even that scary.
You run a program and you're done and you're cheating.
It's not complicated.
It's, it's very, very accessible.
Um, and that has made it really, really crazy.
Like almost every shooter game is just completely rampant with, uh, with cheating.
And like the thing that really gets me is how common it is that streamers end up getting
caught after they've been streaming for a long time and have like a quite established
audience.
Yeah.
Um, like it's pervasive.
It's horrible.
So I'm happy that they're doing something about it.
Feels really weird.
Um, adding any amount of tracking stuff to a computer, um, I do wonder at a certain point
if we've been talking for a long time about how consoles are becoming computers, I am
this topic kind of piqued my interest of whether gaming computers are going to consolify slightly.
Interesting.
So rather than consoles PC-ifying or, I mean, it's been happening, but, but there, but they'll
reach a little bit of both cases to convergence.
PC's will get consolified.
But if you want it to be really gaming, meanwhile, valve is going full bore, um, you know, full
bore gaming on Linux, where I would imagine it would be more difficult to enforce.
I mean, I don't know.
I guess, I guess riot could technically enforce, um, TPM.
You know what?
I'm going to be honest with you.
I've never even thought about whether TPM does anything on Linux or works on Linux TPM
on Linux, uh, and Unix and Linux, the global temporary, oh, no, no, whoops, whoops, whoops,
whoops.
There we go.
Trust the platform module arch Wiki secure crypto processor dedicated.
Okay.
So I guess nothing would actually prevent, um, riot from requiring TPM on Linux as well.
We just don't necessarily have an answer to that yet.
They are not, they are not enforcing this on windows 10, which is interesting.
So windows 10 users are not locked out despite TPM 2.0 being launched a year ago.
So they're saying they're good with people cheating as long as it's on windows 10.
And as long as it's only for the next four years or so, at which point maybe they can
consider dropping support for windows 10.
This is clearly a, this is clearly a moving forward, um, goal.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's, it's, it's very interesting to me.
Cheating and shooters is absolutely a very deep problem, um, for, for basically every
shooter.
Like it's, it's, it's unfortunate, but it is, it is that pervasive.
So something has to be done.
I don't know if this is the necessarily solution that I would want, but at this point in time,
if I wanted to be competitive in a shooter game, um,
You'd support it basically.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Like on a different operating system for the other things that you want to do.
I don't know.
Have a different boot drive, do something else, but like, or that, yeah, like you can,
you can find some form of solution, but, um, yeah, there needs to be stronger enforcement
and it's very, very difficult to do that.
And I don't know how I would do it.
So I haven't necessarily thought of something better than this.
I mean, some of the cheats are extremely difficult.
Yeah.
So I don't know how you would detect them because they're so close to operating as a
human user would like, they'll even go as far as to have it running on a separate machine,
separate computer, then emulates mouse and keyboard inputs, like just plugs into the
gaming machine.
And it's like, okay, how do you, how do you, those are crazy.
There's stuff too.
Like this, this is, I mean, this is just major design issues, but, um, there used to be a
thing in Tarkov.
I've, I've heard there's similar things going on still, but I don't know if it's true, um,
where you would have a completely different computer and they would be able to sniff,
um, like traffic for, for any lobby ID and you could check your lobby ID while you're
in the game.
So you would just select your lobby ID and then it would show you all the loot, all the
players where everyone was facing at every point in time.
So you could like creep up on people and know if they were looking at you and everything.
And it was running on a separate computer.
So like one of the ways that, that streamers were getting caught was you'd see the streamer
playing and doing this constantly, but not interfacing with the chat.
And they'd go like, there's one in front of us around the corner and it was like, okay,
come on.
And they would just do it too many times and their audience would call them out.
Um, but like that's, that's, that's ridiculous, right?
You can't catch that person.
Um, that, that's just, I mean, that has to be fixed.
Not if they're not streaming, like there's, there's no way to know.
Yeah.
That has to be fixed at a design level.
But outside of that, um, Hey, you're getting accused.
You're getting accused here.
Twitch plays Dion says, Luke sure do know a lot about hacks and cheating, sus.
Yeah.
I'm, uh, you can check my records.
I'm not good enough for that, but that's, um, that's fair.
I would be doing better if I was cheating, I swear.
Um, but I mean, it's, it was so rampant in, I don't know, these days I haven't played
Tarkov for a little bit now.
Um, I haven't been playing the new wipe, but, uh, it was very rampant a while ago and this
was like brought to light by a lot of the community.
There was a YouTube stream.
Um, it wasn't live.
We were able to figure that out pretty easily.
So they were trying to like spoof it as live, but it wasn't live, but there was a YouTube
stream that was basically just constantly up for a super long time, um, of someone running
like Tarkov cheats and just like killing entire lobbies and taking all their stuff over and
over and over and over and over and over and over again.
It was crazy.
Oh wow.
It was nuts.
Um, and it happens in all these other games.
It's just, it's all over the shooter space.
So yeah, work being done against that.
Wow.
I'm getting wrecked down in the float plane chat.
Drew Scott says from Linus's last game of Supreme Commander, I'm pretty sure he isn't
cheating.
Okay.
I was trying to hold a video at the same time.
Oh wait, no, that wasn't my last one.
Okay.
All right.
I wasn't in the right head space.
I wasn't in the right head space.
I screwed that game up pretty bad.
It was pretty bad.
Why is this?
Why is it?
Subcom is a difficult game.
It was pretty bad.
Pretty darn good at subcom.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm I'm I'm fine.
I'm not good.
Okay.
Okay.
If you're a community of people that still play Supreme Commander, you might be fine.
But if we threw like the entire lobby of everyone watching this show right now, I bet you very
few of them could beat you.
Yeah, but that's just not understanding the gameplay mechanics like that.
I mean, sort of.
It's an extremely complicated game.
It's more complicated than an average game, but I would make the argument that a game
like Team Fortress 2 is as complicated as Supreme Commander.
There is a lot of gameplay depth there.
There is lots and like it got to the point where I a Supreme Commander big nerd was like,
this is too complicated.
Once they launched all the different weapons that people could have and all the different
hats that you wear and I was just like, yeah, I can't I can't be constantly keeping up with
whatever the new meta is.
Like I, I come in here to play this tightly balanced gaming experience because it was
extremely well balanced.
OG TF2 is fantastic.
I still, you know, I still like playing some OG TF2.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wouldn't say okay, Blue Sky says CSGO is really complicated.
I wouldn't make the, I would say that it's a different kind of complicated.
It's deep in the way that chess is deep.
But you know, fundamentally chess only has, you know, what, whatever it works out to six
different pieces or seven different pieces and they only move in a few ways.
What makes it deep is all the different ways based on what your opponent is doing that
you can configure those moves.
It's, it's functionally infinite, right?
CSGO is like that, but there's only, you know, a couple dozen guns.
You don't have to, it's not like you have to mix and match the different like ammunitions
that go in the guns like you would have to with something like Tarkov.
You don't have to memorize, you don't have to sit in like kind of memorize the rule book.
Like it's a fundamentally simple game, but with unlimited depth.
So I'd say it's more like, like a, like a chess, whereas I would compare something like
TF2 with all the different weapons and all the different hats and all the different maps
and all the different game modes.
It's closer to something like, like a D&D where you have to, you basically have to study
for two weeks to have any hope of recognizing the thing across the battlefield from you
and having any idea what it might be trying to do.
Does that kind of, do you kind of follow me here?
Does that make sense?
Yeah, I just, I think with how the economy works and the varied build orders and the
map strategy differences and stuff, subcom is, is quite, quite crazy, I would say.
And this comes from someone who, and someone in the chat just said, and then there's Eve,
I was going to say, and this comes from someone who played Eve for quite a while.
Subcom's like its own beast.
Now hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Does tech ingredients just make a thermal paste?
I need to order this.
All right.
We're going to have to, we're going to have to do this.
I'm messaging Alex right now.
Okay.
We're going to review tech ingredients, thermal paste, man.
We're going to have to make sure we do it up right.
Dang.
All right.
We got to get through some super chats and I think that's pretty much it for the show
today.
Ah, frosty dog, which broad term identifies anyone impacted by a business including, but
not limited to stockholders, employer, employees, and customers.
Um, uh, Ooh, uh, anyone impacted by a business?
I don't know.
Oh, oh shoot.
Oh no, wait.
There's a really important news item.
Uh, where is it?
Where's the link?
Linguistore.com.
Okay.
Guys.
Wait.
Huh?
Uh, the page is broken.
Uh, Nick.
Hello.
Okay.
There's a new product.
Apparently the page is not up yet.
I will provide the link soon.
It is going to be the one and only, or rather there will be 69 of them.
Um, but we are doing a limited edition lanyard.
Okay.
It is, I believe it's the one that I'm using.
You guys might not have noticed, but I don't just have the regular pink lanyard.
The text is actually in green thread, so it's a Lambo edition.
Only 70 of them were made.
The one in my pocket and 69 more.
It's going up on the store.
It's going to come with a limited edition, a sparkly Lambo sticker.
The link works now.
There you go.
Here's where it is.
A sparkly Lambo sticker and a certificate of authenticity.
Okay.
These will be hand signed by yours truly.
Uh, this is number one of 69.
I have a whole box of them here that maybe I'll do an after party stream or something
like that.
I will sign them on stream so you guys will know it was actually by my hand.
Uh, they are 69 69 and you guys are probably going to want to move pretty fast if you want
to get one cause that's kind of how these things roll.
Should we, should we do this live Luke?
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
Wait.
Oh, it's not under the regular lanyard skew, so I don't even have the right page open.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Control F Lambo.
All right.
Well, one of them's gone already.
Someone managed to get through the cart already.
Uh, actually let's do some super chats.
Let's do some super chats.
Uh, Arien says, my budget is about a hundred thousand, more than one of them are gone.
Oh, are they, uh, six are gone.
Okay.
Uh, Arien says, my budget is a hundred thousand INR or 1360 USD.
Any laptop, a thousand USD in the U S would cost 1300.
Okay.
My usage after effects with 300 timelines at the same time in war zone, uh, your best
bet is going to be like a budget gaming laptop.
Something like a, uh, how much has a Helios?
Helios 300.
Let me have a look here.
Oh no.
The Helios is not what I was thinking of.
Hold on a second, man.
What's there.
Um, do you have any idea what Acer's budget gaming laptop is?
Uh, Alex would know, you know, what you really need to do is you need to nitro.
Oh, it could be the nitro five.
Yep.
Uh, it's probably the nitro five.
Okay, here we go.
I'm going to get you, I'm going to get you that recommendation, brah.
Okay.
I'm gonna get you that recommendation.
Uh, Core i5 9300H GTX 1650.
That's quite a bit less than a thousand dollars though.
You could probably step up to man, Lenovo Legion has some really, uh, really performance
stuff in that price range.
How much is the Wi-Fi 40 you're, you're getting hand selected tech tips.
Okay.
Man.
That one starts at 1200, but it really is a lot better.
Um, there is one lanyard available.
That's it.
There is one left.
Okay.
Well that went, Oh yep.
Yep.
Okay.
Well, uh, see you later lanyards.
And it's gone.
Hey, thanks for playing everyone.
Okay.
Our kyubi says, any advice for a long run HDMI 2.1 cable?
Uh, okay.
Right.
So the Wi-Fi 40, if you can afford it, something like a nitro five, if you don't want to go
that ham, um, I'd say those are, those are good starting points and then you could find
other ones kind of similar to that as well.
All right.
Uh, kyubi's long HDMI 2.0 run from a PC to a TV across the room.
I'm worried that directional fiber optic cables might lose features, uh, or something gamer
specific.
That is a good question.
Do do active optical cables support things like variable refresh rate?
I would think so.
All you can really do is try it.
Wow.
What an, what an excellent, wonderful question that now I kind of want to find the answer
to.
Maybe we should do like a short or something like that.
Man, I don't remember the last time I got such an, such an outstanding tech question
from the audience that was just like, holy crap.
That is something not only have we never made a video about, I never even thought about.
Optical cable directional VRR support question mark.
Cause the thing with active cables is that it's, it's not like a passive cable where
you could have an HDMI 1.4 certified cable and if it's just a short run, it'll work fine
at HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 speeds.
This is a totally different game.
Uh, Mal says, Hey Linus, is there going to be a full review of the Odyssey Neo G9?
Just got mine.
It turns out HDR is totally broken.
Hub have updated the review to do not buy.
Really?
It was working for ours.
Did they update something and break it?
Uh, okay.
Looks like we've got another really good request for video.
What is Odyssey G9 Revisit non-sponsored like we, so we had some trouble with HDR when we
did the sponsored video, but it was only because we had a second non HDR display connected
and that caused some problems that as far as we can tell were the fault of windows,
not the fault of the monitor.
So I'm going to have to definitely have a look and we'll see if that's maybe something
that got broken by an update.
Red Wolf says, Hey, I took your advice and took my 3080 back to Micro Center.
They took it back after hearing about gigabytes and difference, even though it was past the
return date.
Got a 3080 TI FTW3 Ultra instead.
Hey, thank you.
Hey, no problem.
Red Wolf.
Uh, Florian says, would you consider reviewing a VR haptic suit like the BH haptics best
and add-ons or is that too niche?
I would love to know if and which parts are worth it.
Man, it's not really our, it's not really our jam, but, uh, I mean, you asked so nicely
and you did send me 20 euros.
I'll, I'll at least consider it.
I'm putting this in the, in the list, which also known as an email to myself, VR haptic
suit review.
Uh, all right.
Okay.
Wow.
It looks like like half the super chats are just kind of questions and stuff like that.
Uh, space man says, Hey, thanks for telling me to switch from AT Jank to rack Mount as
a thank you.
We named our 20 bay monster Anthony decided by Paul.
Hey, nice.
Pierce says, want to buy a Ferrari wheel and build a PC in it.
Also, do you know anyone who needs, who just, who needs just one Ferrari wheel?
Like, like the, like a wheel, like from a car, not like a racing wheel, like a, an actual
wheel.
Um, I don't think so.
I think I'm good.
You should get them to send it to you and you should build a Ferrari wheel PC.
It's been done, there's been some wheel PCs done before, but one from an actual Ferrari
could be kind of cool.
Angeles 0 0 0 asks, when will the LTT screwdriver be released?
We are hoping we will hit this calendar year.
Uh, we've solved most of the problems and we are almost ready to go, uh, into mass production.
I'm really excited.
Also, how did you get connected to Hassan Piker for his, uh, build?
Uh, just saw he was building and messaged, um, seems like a cool dude.
So yeah, we're, we're going to get working on that.
I should have a writer assigned to it next week.
Uh, let's see here.
Uh, administrator says, hello dear Linus, my deer balls itch and I've used many creams
to take care of the issue.
Will you ever provide a product at LTT that can resolve this?
Um, one of these days, I think we're planning to do an unboxing knife.
I think you could probably use that to cut them off.
That would solve the problem, but it would also create new problems.
So you let me know if that's what you're into administrator.
Did you know that Lewis Rossman made a framework video?
No, I didn't.
He did.
Oh, what did Lewis have to say about it?
He made it in February.
Um, the title sounds like it's going to be really negative.
Um, but I guess it was pretty positive.
The like to dislike ratio on the video is really high framework responded, um, with
some really good responses.
He responded to framework with this is a response to their response.
Number one, this is beautiful.
Number two, this is amazing.
Number three, this is great.
Number four, just some questions.
Number five, this is fine.
Number six, this is beautiful.
So he seems very happy, which is good.
Oh, well that's great.
Uh, Lewis's endorsement means a lot to me and actually I wouldn't watch the whole video.
It looks happy with their responses.
I don't know.
Three videos.
So there's another one a month ago.
Um, and another one streamed yesterday, uh, with actual hands on with it.
I guess I found the wrong one.
That is awesome.
And I fix it, gave it a 10 out of 10, um, for their tear down.
So guys, I shot today the video announcing that I did go ahead with my investment in
framework and uh, I'm not going to spoil everything.
It's actually a really good video.
You guys should definitely watch it.
Uh, but I will tell you guys one thing that comes right at the end of the video and that's
really important to me and was a pivotal, pivotal part of making this decision.
Uh, let me see if I can find it.
You put up a lot of content recently.
This is from, this is from the founder and he says, and this is the exact words, we do
promise not to from a pro consumer and pro environment perspective and you would be fully
justified in holding us to the fire if we break that promise whether or not you invest.
So what I have committed at the end of that video is that among other things, really,
it's a great video.
Go watch it.
Um, what I've committed is that if they fall off this pro consumer pro environment path,
uh, my mess up with them, my mess up, my breakup with them will be public, messy and absolute.
So um, that's my commitment to you guys.
Uh, so far they seem to be taking their mission extremely seriously and I'm really excited
to, to have a front seat, uh, on this crazy ride.
Uh, Wan Chong says, would you consider revisiting the used graphics card testing to include
real industry standard lifetime conditioning?
Yes.
Who should I reach out to with more info?
Uh, you should reach out to the publicly available email on the YouTube channel.
We do.
We do monitor that.
I don't, but someone does.
Uh, Mr. Creemore says, do you mother lovers sell any LTT merch locally?
I want to be an LTT shill, but I'm too impulsive for ship times.
We've considered doing popups, but that was something we were just starting to look into
in the months leading up to, well, COVID and like getting big crowds of people together
in person hasn't really been a thing for the last 18 months.
So um, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We we've considered it, but it's not something that is on the, on the roadmap right now.
Uh, Josh says Lewis is super stoked about the framework.
You should check his new community posts.
I would expect that he would be, they seem to be taking it extremely seriously.
I like, oh man, I'm not going to buy one cause I'm too cheap and I have a laptop that
works.
But this, this has been probably one of the most tempting tech releases in a long time
for me to personally buy because the like hardware nerd in me just wants one cause they're
so cool.
Like and I'm not, to be very transparent, Linus is talking to you guys about investment.
I have no skin in this game at all.
There's, there's no reason for me to care outside of it just being really cool and it,
it is, it genuinely just seems really cool.
I am going to watch this entire hour long Lewis Rossman video just because it's exciting.
This is, this is such a cool moment in computing and I really, really, really hope that it
works longterm cause this would be, this would be awesome.
If I do buy another laptop as of right now, I don't know, it could change, but as of right
now it would be this guaranteed.
And I think that's it for the show today.
Thank you so much for tuning in guys.
Thank you to everyone who got themselves a Lambo edition lanyard along with the sticker
and certificate of authenticity.
69 of you placed orders and will presumably proudly rock your Lambo edition lanyard for
many years cause these things never break.
I finally, in order to switch to the pink one, I ditched my black one, but not because
it was anywhere near showing any signs of giving up whatsoever.
I love these lanyards.
They're awesome.
Okay.
I think we're just going to roll that outro and buh bye guys.
Oh, I guess I owe them a stream later, so, uh, yeah, give me a bit of time though.
Probably.
I don't know.
You owe them a stream later?
Yeah.
Cause I got a sign all these days.
Oh,
Thank you guys so much.
Bye.
Bye.