Wait, did we edit the restream?
No.
But it's streaming on YouTube.
So someone must have done it.
Maybe AJ did it?
I don't know.
I guess we'll find out if we are live.
Hi everyone.
Hey.
Welcome to the WAN Show.
We're off to a fantastic start today, we've got a lot of great topics for you.
We just finished filming Scrapyard Wars, so in the coming moments, we're going to be giving
you all the spoilers.
I'm totally kidding.
It's going to be like two months before everything's out, but we had a lot of fun.
That's what we were shooting all week.
We'll give you the details.
I had no fun.
I actually didn't have any fun.
Maybe we'll talk a little bit about it.
What else we got going on?
Oh yes, AMD's prices are rising, Intel's prices are getting slashed.
It turns out competition works, doesn't it?
What else we got going on?
There's some Googles getting sued for a whole ton of money, and a whole ton of people are
going to be getting like 750 pounds, or $925 US dollars each.
What, really?
Oh yeah, it's huge.
We'll talk about that later.
Also Intel, Microsoft dual screen devices, they recently had a product launch, or not
product launch, an announcement thing, and there's some actually genuinely pretty interesting
devices coming out of there.
There's some really cool looking stuff.
Microsoft has been a fun company for a while.
First let's look at the intro.
Whoa.
Wow.
It's so good.
Whoa.
Amazing graphics.
Look, it's Luke.
Oh, one of them's not helping, but these things are funny.
The other guy never knows all of them.
No, I don't.
You're not that big.
Wow.
Whoa.
Okay.
I'd be lying if I said there's not a little bit of salt from this season of Scrapyard
Wars.
Do you think it's fair to say-
It's the saltiest.
This is the most dramatic we've had, and I mean drama in like a salty sense.
Salty drama.
No.
You don't think so?
Four.
Which one was four?
Oh, with Paul and Kyle?
No, no, no, no.
That was five.
That was five.
There was a fair bit there.
Four was Bob and Ron.
That was the only time there's been aesthetic, so there was a lot of chirping because of
the aesthetic.
Yeah.
I guess there's that.
You know what?
We'll let you guys-
I don't think it was like genuine drama, though.
We'll let you guys be the judge.
I don't know.
You guys were kind of dicks.
So were you guys.
So maybe there was some genuine drama.
Why don't we jump right into our title topic to start with, just because people seem to
like that for some reason.
I can't imagine why.
Yeah.
So the source here is from Anand Tech.
Intel has slashed the pricing of their high-end HEDT processors.
That's not to say that the pricing of the CPUs that were already on the market are going
anywhere.
It's just that in much the same way that they used to do, like back in the day when they
kind of just released new chips that were faster, just for the lulls of it a lot of
the time it seems, they have come in and they're giving you kind of something similar for less
money or something better for the same amount of money and schwomp, here it comes.
So here's the summary.
The astonishingly, stupidly named Core i9-10980XE, now that's a name.
It's something.
I don't think it's a name because there are actually more numbers than there are letters
in there.
That's a number.
Are there?
Hold on a second.
We got six numbers.
Oh, we got seven letters, never mind.
It is technically more name than number.
More number now than man, Twisted Vivo.
So we get a small base clock, or excuse me, we get no base clock boost.
Hold on a second here.
Yes, we do.
Hold on.
No, right.
Here's the specs.
We get an all-core boost of 3.8 gigahertz.
We get Turbo Boost 2 of 4.6 and Turbo Boost 3 of 4.8, and this is a 165-watt part.
But none of that's exceptional.
That is very similar to the 9980XE we already had.
What is exceptional is that it is now half the price.
It is $980 instead of a cool two grand.
And I remember talking about this.
Back when Intel launched their 18-core flagship, I was like, hold on a second.
You guys didn't launch, like you guys didn't launch a new generation.
This is not a new, it is a new flagship.
How do I explain this?
You guys didn't replace, you know, the previous flagship.
You guys just...
Shut up.
That was loud.
Yeah, sorry.
You guys didn't replace the previous flagship.
You just, like, added a new flagship on top of it, because $1,000 was basically the extreme
edition price for the longest time, and then they were like, lol, here's one for two grand.
And so I'm looking at this going, you guys have, you guys, you clearly haven't innovated.
You just...
It's a different category.
It's a different server product that was, like, super, super scarce, hard to make, and
you made it a desktop product, and you just charged way more for it.
Like, okay, I guess that's a strategy if, you know, all of a sudden AMD has Threadripper,
and you're like, oh, hold on a second, what do we do?
Scramble.
So anyway, now that AMD has, and nothing against first-gen Ryzen or first-gen Threadripper
or any of that stuff, nothing against those chips, but they were competitive.
But they weren't class-leading, except at the lower end, where, yes, they were class-leading,
but only in certain workloads.
Now second-gen then is class-leading in many workloads, and then very close in some of
the ones that Intel has traditionally been very dominant in.
So Intel, for the first time, I'm trying to remember, the last time, because Intel's one
of those companies where a lot of the way they sell product, and you can interpret this
however you want, frankly, I don't care, but a lot of the way that they sell product is
not by the specs and the price.
And any mature company wants to get to that point.
That is a comfortable position to be in, where instead of having to scrap it out, like, you
know, you look at, you know, entry-level Android phones, instead of having to scrap it out
over who has two more pixels per inch on their display, and who has, you know, eight more
megapixels on their rear camera, or whatever the case may be, you want people to buy your
phone because you made it, not because it's, like, slightly better, more spec here.
You want that trust, and that...
I've bought this thing three times in the past.
It's worked well for me every time.
I'm gonna do it again.
So a lot of Intel's sales strategy is not around just, like, having the highest gigahertz.
It's marketing, it's building partnerships, it's building infrastructure, and, like, logistics
to actually be able to distribute chips all over the world.
I mean, it's all fine and good to have a great CPU, but if no one in Europe can get their
hands on it at a reasonable price, then that doesn't do you any good.
So it's all those more business-y, corporate-y things that they're well-established, and
that they're very good at, you know, forecasting, making sure they have enough chips.
It's been a bit of a rough year as far as that goes.
For both of them, apparently.
But generally speaking, those are things that Intel's been very good at, and they tend to
be quite aloof to, you know, a particular SKU that, you know, performs quite well and
is selling quite well.
Like, even back when I was at NCIX, you know, AMD would have chips that moved really well.
Like, I remember the Phenom 720 Black or something like that.
This was an unlocked triple core, if I recall correctly, please don't quote me on that.
But that thing moved like billio, because AMD had lots of cheap motherboard options
out there, so you could get a, I mean, not amazing, but you could get a feature-complete,
like a good enough motherboard for, like, 70 bucks, like $72, $73, like somewhere in
that range.
You throw one of these triple cores on there, and all of a sudden you've got something that
games well enough, and it's got, like, one more core than you were gonna have if you
went Intel, and it's like, hey, this is a pretty good time, especially at this price
point.
Yeah, at that price point it was outstanding, and Intel took forever to counter it, because
they were just like, we're not gonna, we're not gonna, like, trade potshots on a SKU by
SKU basis, we're just gonna have a stack, and we're going to, you know, market ourselves
as a solution provider, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So the last time that I can remember them responding this directly to a competitive
threat has to be Athlon 64.
I mean, and even then, even then, Intel went to market.
When AMD launched the Athlon FX-51, okay, Intel responded with an Extreme Edition chip,
I think it was, like, a Gallatin Core Pentium 4, with hyper-threading, like, 3.46 gigahertz,
like, furnace of a chip, and it was, like, it was based on their server, something, something
like, it was actually kind of a similar response, but get this, it was slower, it wasn't as
good, but they priced it on par with AMD's offering, as if to make a statement that like,
it's Intel, it's our bestest, bestest thing, therefore, you know, it costs that much, and
people will buy it.
And you know what?
They'll buy it.
I remember, I used to, I used to spend so much time on online forums, just, like, helping
people configure systems, because it was a hobby for me.
You still spend, oh, not doing that, but you still spend a fair amount.
Well, yeah, okay, but, like, specifically, like, I was the kind of person who hung out
in what was the then equivalent of R slash build a PC, and just waited for people to,
I was sitting there waiting for people to post what they wanted to do with their system,
and I'd put together a recommended spec list, and then I'd get so, I would argue with people,
about their configurations, because people would come in, and they'd be like, I'm gonna
buy this Extreme Edition Pentium thing, and I'm like, that's dumb.
And they're like, yeah, but I want Intel, I like Intel.
I'm like, no, no, no, you don't like Intel.
Intel is not, they're not emotional, they don't reciprocate your love, they're out,
and to be clear, AMD is no different, don't kid yourself.
They don't reciprocate your love, you are a customer, that's the relationship here.
And so, you should not be buying what is objectively worse for the same price.
And they go, well, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
You know, it's like, 5% different in this game, and 10% different in that game, you'd
never notice.
And I go, who cares?
Why would you ever knowingly get less for your money?
Like that is offensive to me on such a deep level, to go in and like knowingly, eyes wide
open, be like, here is more of my money, please give me less of something worse.
Thank you.
This has been a tremendous transaction.
But even at the darkest times-
Okay, there's some stuff if you were trying to evaluate based off of, this has never really
been that big of a problem for CPUs, but if you're trying to evaluate based off of like,
okay, I've had experience with their customer support, or I've had experience with reliability.
That's totally different.
I know, and I know that's not what you're commenting on, I'm just adding that on top.
CPUs are all pretty darn reliable, both AMD and Intel kind of have it mostly nailed.
So it's kind of irrelevant here.
I'm just saying, in general, some of those arguments can have some validity to it, but
usually no.
I just always used to get so mad because Intel would do these things and they would just
get away with it.
So a number of people, so I was working PC advisor at NCIX when, and I'm changing gears
a little bit here, when Nvidia launched the GTX 480, which was a steaming pile of hot
garbage, literally hot.
Maybe not literally garbage, but given how many of them probably burned themselves into
a crisp, I'm sure quite a few of them ended up in the electronic scrap heap for like scrap
gold recovery.
And I would just hate that people are like, no, no, I need GeForce.
People would have legitimate reasons, like, look, I'm a CUDA developer.
I'm like, okay, well then you should probably buy four GTX 480s and cram your PCI express
slots full of GTX 480s.
But people who were like, yeah, I'm playing this game or that game, it always made me
so mad.
It was actually because of my insistence that my position as PC advisor was a non-commissioned
position because that way I could be free to tell people whatever they actually needed
to know.
And when they asked me, are you on commission, which many did, many people asked me if I
was on commission, I would always say no, because I wasn't, I did get a monthly bonus
for being the PC advisor, but it was a flat monthly bonus.
I just got like $300 a month or something like that for monitoring that email address.
What else was I going to talk about?
And yeah, I'll just fan fanboys really make me mad.
I remember this one time I was doing, yeah, I freaked out on stream not that long ago.
Like it actually had close to a breakdown because there was this giant war going on
on the stream about Linux versus windows.
Yeah.
And I just, I was trying to get it to just stop for so long and it just wouldn't stop.
And then I just kind of spazzed a little bit and was like, shut up.
It's whatever's proper for that situation.
It's what they both have positives and benefits.
And it was funny because not that long after you released that video, people were so mad
about that.
Like the funny thing is I would love to see the numbers for what percentage of the people
who were mad about that video daily drive windows.
And to be clear, I know windows isn't perfect.
Yeah.
There's problems with Microsoft's data collection.
There's problems with basic functionality, not working.
Do you remember how long it took them to get the start menu working?
It's still has some issues in my opinion.
It still has some issues, but remember when it just actually didn't work at all.
Yeah.
I mean, the search is so bad.
It is shockingly bad.
Like I search is so much better in windows seven.
Holy cow.
I am far from an expert programmer.
Let's let's get that out of the way, but I am pretty sure I am pretty sure that it would
be fairly straightforward for Microsoft to create some kind of daemon that runs and just
indexes every file name of every end, like sorts it by, okay, these are executables.
These are probably the most important ones.
These are batch files.
These are probably less important and just searches against that.
It would be, you're instantaneous and you can't do it.
And so even when it does turn up the right result, you'll type something in at four seconds
later it comes up the result.
You've got your, it comes up with some like stupid result and you're about to click the
right thing and it like shit moves and you click the wrong thing and you're like, what
are you actually doing?
I had to very recently on my work PC, which is the only computer I work on that is running
what is 10 I even went to windows 10 off my laptop, which now it doesn't even like some
of the razor stuff is all derped out because of that, but whatever.
I typed in mouse because I wanted to check something with my mouse and it showed the
actual like mouse settings thing for a second and then it disappeared entirely and just
nothing was there.
Yeah.
So I deleted the word and retyped mouse and then it showed up properly and I was like,
okay, yeah.
Where did it go?
Do you want to search the web for mouse?
Yeah.
No.
Why did it leave?
If I wanted to search the web for mouse, I would have opened my Chrome browser and searched
the web for mouse, which is probably already open because that's how like people use computers
now.
Yeah.
So wow.
Yeah.
Browsers are always open.
Yeah.
I remember I used to get really annoyed with my mom cause like back in the windows 3.1
windows 95 days, she didn't understand the difference between minimize and exit.
So I would always get onto the computer and it would be super chuggy because she had minimized
absolutely everything she was doing.
And I was like, yo, like my program can't run because you are using literally all the
computer's memory.
And she'd be like, I closed it all.
I'm like, Oh man, no you didn't.
Anyway, where I was going with the fanboy thing is I remember one of the most frustrating
systems I ever had to build was on this motherboard.
This was like a super niche, um, where is it?
Where's the pictures?
Come on, Tom.
Sorry.
What do you got going on here?
Really?
Throwing this video all over the place though.
Yeah.
I know.
Right.
Um, Oh, this is really annoying.
It was this super niche platform, uh, socket 1207 socket F. This was my God.
The ads scroll up a little bit.
Just pause right there.
This is all ads.
Wow.
All this, all this, all this, all this and all this.
Holy cow.
I just, I just had to see that for a second.
That is actually, it's almost admirable at a certain point.
Like they have, they have put, they have crammed more ad in there than I would have thought
possible so they need to be congratulated for that, I guess.
Here it is.
So this was the, like the stupidest motherboard ever been.
Can I, can I find a picture of this thing?
So AMD adapted their server platform, which wasn't completely dead at the time, even though
their desktop was like dying a fast death, uh, in terms of competitiveness and was like,
okay, we're going to go after Intel on core count.
And they built this platform called four by four.
So I don't know why they called it four by four.
Maybe it was four PCI express slots for course times two sockets.
I don't know.
Anyway, you can put two quad core, two quad core processors in it if I recall correctly.
And I remember building this system and just like it driving me absolutely nuts because
the thing was so overpriced 24 pin, like mid near the, yeah, the design of the board is
terrible because I'm sure they rushed this thing because no one, like they knew like
a few hundred people were going to buy it.
Like nobody was going to buy this stupid thing.
The performance was terrible.
The power consumption was terrible and I was just like looking at it going, why, why would
anybody buy this?
And it was, it was like not, it was not a great board because what tends to happen at
the very high end, you can buy a six, seven, $800 motherboard and get a very, very poor
experience because the thing is the BIOS development that goes into a board is kind of, not quite,
but kind of the same regardless of whether you sell 500 of them, 5,000, 50,000 or 500,000
of them.
And so it's like, okay, well where do we sink the little bit of extra polish into the one
that's going to turn into 500 annoyed customers on the ASUS forum or the one that's going
to turn into 500,000 annoyed customers on the ASUS forum?
Duh, like it's usually better to buy the mainstream thing than the super halo niche thing from
my experience.
We've had experience.
Yeah, I was just going to say we've had experience or LTT has had experience with that many times
actually.
Here we go.
Especially back in the house.
I remember that quite a few times AMD's quad FX technically quad core.
Oh wait, no, hold on.
Each physical, nevermind.
It was, it was dual course and then two sockets so that you had a total of four course.
Of course you're dealing with Numa nodes and like, let's go ahead and have a look at what
the performance looked like compared to here's gaming performance.
So this was a gaming machine I was building.
Like it's just, so I'd have people say, well, it's not that far behind Conroe.
It's like, so what?
It is behind and it's a terrible value.
Where's the power consumption numbers.
Like just, this thing was just such a shart, you know, performance per watt is literally
double on the QX 6,700 and remember guys, this is an extreme edition.
This is already a dumb CPU that no one should be buying.
Those were okay.
Those were given out as Intel retail edge program things though later.
This was still early.
Okay.
Yeah.
That was much later.
Cause I was gonna say those ended up being on market for pretty cheap because a lot of
people bought them and then flipped them much later.
And these CPU's the top end one was a thousand dollars and you had to buy two of them.
And it goes up against a thousand dollars for a single CPU and just gets utterly like
destroyed.
So it just, it made me so mad to like to build this thing.
So this was anyway, I'm finally coming around to the point of this story arrogance.
Every company seems to go through this.
They seem to have a cycle where they're firing all cylinders and they kill it.
And then they just are like, well, I don't have to, I don't have to drop my price.
I don't have to worry about delivering great value for the dollar because I can ride on
the brand that I just spent the last few years creating.
And so AMD did get to sell some of these FX 70 class processors for presumably reasonable
margin.
Although actually I don't, I don't actually know that by the time they like develop this
thing and marketed and then sell like a few dozen of them, maybe it was a total loss.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
But they sell these processors and then people get to like, get told they're idiots by their
friends for having this stupid computer that doesn't make any sense.
And then you create like a bad taste.
Like I don't understand why, whether it's AMD back when they were coming out of their
dominance with FX and got totally destroyed by Conroe and then they're trying to like
still charge a bunch of money for it or whether it's Intel with Skylake and Skylake derivatives
being under pressure for so long, not just like immediately reacting.
That take to heart some of the specific words in that story and apply them to earlier on
where he said like, you shouldn't be a fan boy of whatever.
And I also include that to the other team.
Like Intel is not your friend.
And AMD is not your friend.
Also no.
Also no.
There's been a lot of marketing around like, yeah, stick it to the man.
But they're also the man.
We want them to be doing very good because competition is very good as we also mentioned
earlier.
But yeah.
Now I want to go ahead and acknowledge that our title for today's video was a little bit
click baity because everything that I've said about Intel's desperation is false.
Pretty much Intel's not desperate.
Something that you guys have to understand is that AMD has made up a lot of ground in
the last two to three years, a ton of ground and it's exciting and it's causing it's making
game, great gaming PCs cheaper than ever for PC gamers around the world and it's fantastic
and we love it.
And if there was ever an emotional attachment that I could have to a company like AMD, it
would be that I'm super pleased that they came back fighting hard and that the consumer
is benefiting from it.
But Intel is not against the ropes.
Don't kid yourself.
AMD made up a bunch of ground.
That doesn't mean that their product stack once Intel just slashes prices like that was
the only lever they actually had to pull to go back to being competitive again.
It's not like it's not like this is an AMD.
This isn't an FX bloodbath where they've got the clear performance crown when it comes
to gaming and Intel has no response.
So we finally have the response in spite of Intel being in my opinion, far too slow to
react to it.
And that is to take their HEDT lineup and make the pricing sensible.
So they have gotten rid of all this stupid stuff that made no sense.
Do you remember that quad core that was on their HEDT socket?
What was this?
7740 or something stupid like that.
They had some really weird things.
So it was architecturally a generation behind, but it had like a way higher power delivery
limit and it was like this like overclockers only skew that they killed in like four months.
We were looked at and we were like, what even is this?
What are you doing?
Like you're muddying, you're muddying that you're already confusing staff.
And when they had, when they, when they started segmenting HEDT by putting fewer PCI express
lanes on them, what are you guys doing?
You are literally, you're literally lasering off functionality that was on that chip for
the sake of artificial product segmentation so that you, so that people are incentivized
to like buy one with more cores or whatever.
No, just let people buy what they actually want to buy.
And at least we finally got a sensible product stack.
So anywhere from four, except for the name, anywhere from four to eight cores, that's
on your mainstream platform, anything from 10 to 18 cores that is on your HEDT platform.
And we are finally back to pricing that I considered outrageous back when they first
announced their, their thousand dollar extreme edition, or actually if I recall correctly,
AMD did it first with the FX, what at 51.
But pricing that I thought was ridiculous, but now feels like coming back down to earth
after we've been dealing with $2,000 flagship SKUs.
So we've got this, this very sensible pricing structure where you go, okay, I want more
than eight cores.
I guess I'm moving to HEDT.
We've got nice high boost clocks on all of these, which is great.
They should all game really, really well.
And you pay basically about a hundred bucks a core, excuse me, for two cores.
As you move through 10, 12, and 14, they killed the 16 core.
The conspiracy theory is that's to avoid direct comparisons to AMD to the 3950X, which would
be high hilarious.
That could make sense.
And so you're paying a hundred bucks for another four cores to get the 18 core.
The non conspiracy theory version of that is that maybe by the time the chip is binned
high enough for 16 core, it could have just as easily been an 18 core.
So they might as well just kill that and take any of the ones that were borderline and move
them down and move them up.
But yeah, I like this.
I am super happy with this.
When 10,000 series, geez, is out, I'll be five generations behind.
Really?
Yeah.
You're still running a 5960X?
Yeah.
Huh.
You know, it's funny.
I was running a 5960X until like a week ago, two weeks ago.
You didn't upgrade?
I went AMD.
Oh.
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point where it's like a Jersey almost because we've, we've really moved in the other direction
over the last year making, actually here, I'll, I'll bring up the, I'll bring up the
store cause we've, you know, we've gone after this like stealth branding, like trying to
like, it only has a little tiny logo here and then it has the Linus tech tips down the
arm.
But it's like, if you're not going out of your way to read it, like it's not that noticeable.
And we've tried to make things a lot more subtle, but I kind of liked that.
Maybe just like a one off, like an outlier I've wanted to do.
I've wanted to do like a dry fit style shirt, like an athletic shirt for a while.
Maybe that would be a good opportunity to do like the just totally like kind of like
e-sports Jersey looking like horrendous orange and black and white.
Like I was, I was sitting here thinking like, Oh no, what have I done until you said the
athletic shirt, that's actually kind of compelling.
Oh, GPU shirt is also a really new design.
Honestly, this is my personal favorite.
I like everything that we've done so far, especially because like when I first looked
at it, I was like, is it a city?
Yeah.
Like what is that building?
Is that a specific building?
I was like, Oh yeah, I actually, I went as far as to have someone ask me like, is this
a GPU shirt?
And I was like, no, it's just like a skyline.
And like I corrected someone and was like very dismissive.
I was like, what are you talking about?
GP.
And then I like, I looked at it later and I was like, Oh man, so dumb.
Yeah, that's really cool.
I liked that one a lot.
It's really cool.
I really liked that one.
So guys go check it out.
LTT store.com.
If you haven't heard of that.
What can I do for you, Nick?
Oh, the elemental promo.
Yeah.
So four elementals for four elementals for 50 is back.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
That's a good deal.
Okay.
Sorry.
I was doing the math wrong.
Four elementals for fee.
I thought it was two for 50, I think for some reason I had like, like our raw, like silkscreening
costs in my, in my mind or something like not even including like t-shirts and logistics
and fulfillment.
And I was like, wait, no, that's not that great of a deal.
No, no.
Yeah.
So these are American apparel shirts.
They've got, they've got our elemental design, which is just like the LTT logo on the chest
here.
Um, buy four, get them for 50 bucks.
Basically it's like 1250 a shirt plus shipping, which is a pretty darn good deal.
And elemental is, uh, going away as of this fire sale.
Once this is over, they are gone and, um, good riddance with that said, I think it would
be hilarious to like bring them back like a year from now or two years from now, just
like as, and not even try to sell them at full price, just bring them back as like a
stupid fire sale item.
So there you go guys.
It might come back.
It won't be for a long time though.
So get yours now.
Um, they're super comfy.
You guys have a lot of stuff on the store now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nick and I were talking about it today.
I think we're going to start killing some of the designs.
So that's sort of a general thing to be aware of guys.
If there's some older designs that you like, um, make sure you keep an eye on them.
Make sure we don't run out of your size.
Um, circuit boards going away now.
Yeah.
Circuit board is going to be the one that goes away next.
So keep an eye on that.
Circuit board.
Uh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
That makes sense.
I really liked the cranberry circuit board one.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see if I can find it.
Yeah.
But that makes, that's what clothing brands do.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
It does look dated now compared to the newer designs though.
And it does like, yep.
And it's nice, but it does look a little dated now.
Um, all right.
So in other processor pricing news, uh, demand for AMD processors has reached the point where
retailers are now hiking up the prices daily.
Our source for this is kit-re-re-re.net and techspot.com a us pricing lists this chip
for as high as $800 on Amazon and new egg up from the MSRP of four 99.
Like to put that in perspective, that is the same price that the 16 core is supposed to
come in at.
And that's just the 12 core.
Um, that's the, yeah, that's the, uh, Ryzen nine 3,900 X.
Yeah.
That's freaking awesome.
Good for AMD and retailers, uh, AMD confirmed a shortage and announced a delay on the rise
and 39 50 X.
I believe that was last week.
So you know what?
That was a controversial thing that I just said there.
Yeah.
I said, I said good for, good for Andy.
Good for the retail.
It's actually not so much good for AMD because they probably haven't increased their pricing,
but it's also not that cut and dried.
So when there is a great product that people want, that is good for the people selling
the product.
It's good for the people that are mad.
It's more than MSRP.
Here's the thing you got to understand whether you're buying Ram or whether you're buying
computer processors, you are basically buying a commodity.
If you don't want to buy a commodity by a Mac, they're not a commodity because they
build value around the product in other ways.
But if you're buying a computer processor, this is one of the reasons that it makes me
so mad when people go out of their way to spend more for less because you are buying
a commodity item.
There is no like, you know, it's not like a car where you could, you could pay more
for leather seats because you just like leather seats.
This is, this is a processor.
It crunches numbers, it spits out FPSs or rendered videos, and it does so at a rate
that we can very easily measure and compare and you pay a price for it that is very transparent
and out there.
It's generally just a price of performance equation and there are, like we said earlier,
there's some components that aren't quite that simple, but yeah.
So I'm, I'm taking a moment to congratulate AMD and their retailers on, for a change for
once in the last five years, having something to make some margin on.
Actually, I shouldn't say that GPUs were obviously a margin opportunity because I'll tell you
guys the computer retail business is really tough.
I've had so many people ask me over the years, you guys have the expertise, you have the
industry relationships, you have the facility.
Why don't you guys like become a system integrator?
Why don't you build systems and like sell gaming systems online?
Because we are every bit as capable of configuring a freaking gaming system as many of the system
integrators that are out there.
And I was like, because I'm not going to put all the work into building the logistics and
the packaging and the human resources management and all of this, all of this stuff, I'm not
going to, I'm not going to dump those resources in to make, you know, 6% net margin.
If I'm lucky, that's bad.
That's a terrible, terrible business.
And honestly speaking, e-tailers, particularly e-tailers with pressure from Amazon, with
pressure from the fact that there's just nothing hot and new that is supply constrained, e-tailers
are lucky to make one to 4% net, like after they cover all of their expenses.
And so, you know, opportunities to make margin are definitely great.
And the thing is, I know that consumers often get really upset about this kind of thing.
They call it gouging.
No, gouging is when you have something that people need and you charge far more for it
than is fair or reasonable.
Some people need processors.
Do they need this one?
No.
Okay.
Then buy something else.
Gouging is when you know that, you know, your, your competing dairy farm or whatever had
a flood and you quadruple the price of milk or milks may be a bad example because people
probably shouldn't drink as much milk as they do.
Let's say, let's find something that's actually more necessary.
Water.
Sure.
Controlling the supply of water.
Controlling the supply of water and charging more for it than you, than you reasonably
should need to.
That is, that is gouging, gouging.
Like let's think about what the word means.
It's like, it's like, it's vicious.
It's like it's cutting.
You don't need a gaming CPU.
In fact, if Scrapyard Wars taught us anything this season, it's that you can get a great
gaming experience.
You've been getting Xeons for tons of Scrapyard Wars.
Yep.
Like there's, there's, there's, there's deals out there.
Yeah, absolutely.
You don't need, nobody, nobody lives or dies by getting a 3900X.
And so I guess I just, I just don't really care that much because I'm also in the same
camp that doesn't preorder games and doesn't pay full price for games because you know
what, in the grand scheme of things, I'll pay however much I'm comfortable with and
it will come down to that price eventually.
Or it won't and you just won't get it.
Or it won't and I just won't get it.
And that's, that's how capitalism works.
Anyway.
So good for AMD.
Oh yeah.
So how AMD benefits from this is that instead of running out and working with game developers
to bundle free games with their processors or the GPUs or whatever else, those aren't
free.
I don't know if you guys know this, but when you get a free game with your graphics card,
that's not free.
And actually in the old days, they used to be super cheap, like the game codes for Nvidia
and for ATI at the time.
My understanding is they used to come very cheaply because the argument that was being
made was that these graphics card companies and Intel used to do them as well.
In fact, my copy of Supreme Commander, I only got that game because I got a free one with
my Intel CPU.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I used to try to flip the games.
Yep.
Oh yeah.
That was a good strat.
I used to do that all the time.
But anyway, they used to be cheap because the argument would be made that, hey, we're
promoting your game and not that many people buy a new computer like specifically for
a game anyway.
So probably most of the people that are interested in your game are going to have to buy it and
we're effectively giving you a great promotional vehicle for it.
Well, the game companies stopped buying that line and started charging quite a lot more
for them.
So I remember negotiating deals with suppliers being like, well, hey, you know, like, honestly,
we just need a better price.
Like you're not price to performance competitive.
How am I supposed to sell this thing?
And they go, well, we've got these games and I go, I don't care about these games.
And they're like, well, unfortunately this is a deal we've negotiated and it's like,
you know, between the two games, it's like $18 or something on our cost.
I'm like, what?
Oh, holy crap.
Like you guys are actually paying like a lot for these games.
And a lot of the time they're hot new games.
And these are like $50 games for nine bucks a pop.
Like it is a good value, but only if you were going to buy those games or you have the savvy
and the time to turn around and flip them.
So it's good for AMD in the sense that they don't have to run around and like, you know,
work on these promos in order to get their product to move.
I really hope that TSMC can get their stuff together.
Apparently one of the reasons for the shortage is that TSMC tripled their lead time for seven
nanometer chips from two months to six months because you know, it's great if more people
have awesome processors at a great price and once the lead time comes down, once their
capacity goes up, the prices will fall.
But in the meantime, you will have to pay a little bit more.
The nice thing I guess is that at least if you want an Intel CPU, you can get a 10 core
one of those for, how much was it again?
Just under.
Ooh, wow.
I'm super not in that tab anymore.
Yeah, I don't remember.
How much is the new 10 core?
590 bucks.
So you could actually get an Intel 12 core for 689, which is a perfectly reasonable option.
The one thing that's going to bite you a little bit there is watch out for motherboard pricing
because Intel's X299 platform is substantially more expensive on the motherboard side than
if you grab like a, like a well-built B450 board or something and throw a 3,900 X.
I'm going to bring up the scrapboard worst thing again.
You probably don't need that either though.
Yeah, you probably don't need it.
Just to be completely clear.
But if you do need it.
But if you do, that's great.
At least we have the Core i9-10-920X to look forward to.
It's so robotic and I know like you played into that, but it's still, even if you didn't,
it's still robotic.
You know what I wanted them to do?
I wanted them to just, actually I don't know what I wanted them to do, but this was terrible.
What they should have done was what Nvidia did.
They should have done a reset.
So I don't know if you guys have been following it for this long, but Nvidia's cards used
to be four digit numbers and then a suffix.
So it was like your 6,800 GT or GTX or your 7,900 GTX or 7,950, that was like a weird
little small incremental bump anyway.
So they got up to the 9,800 GTX and everyone kind of speculated.
What are they going to do?
Are they going to do like this goofy five digit number?
And thankfully Nvidia, while I didn't necessarily fully agree with their naming scheme, had
the good sense to not do this and they came up with the 200 series.
So they actually went down to three numbers.
I'm interested because I thought it was all right.
What about 100?
Oh, okay.
Well, yeah.
What happened to 100?
Okay.
What happened to 300, Nvidia?
What happened to 800?
Where did all those numbers go?
We kind of know what happened to 800, the mobile stuff.
Yeah, but like-
It was still dumb, I agree.
So I thought you meant like within the stack, not the actual starting number.
Like if you're going to skip numbers, at least skip numbers I can kind of explain.
Like if you had skipped 400, I could have been like, okay, I don't know.
They don't want to spook like superstitious Chinese buyers or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You know.
I was actually kind of surprised that they skipped one and eight and not four because
I like, I was expecting that jump.
You know what I mean?
But oh well.
Okay.
I'm very interested in this.
Okay, sure.
Hit me.
I'm really interested in on this because you've been using a flippy dippy phone for a while
now.
Boop.
Pretty cool.
Nice floppy phone.
I actually absolutely love it.
It's buggy.
Like Android auto on this thing is terrible.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Why?
I don't...
Probably because it's just not getting the same level of software.
It's the whole niche product thing.
It's like, yes, this is a $2,000 phone and like, therefore I should be getting the best
experience.
But if you're smart, you run out and you buy an A series or you buy the S whatever, and
you're actually going to get your software updates in a, this is Samsung we're talking
about, relatively, you know, reasonable timeframe.
Like if you're expecting this, which is this like weird experimental device to get the
same level of polish and the same kind of longterm support as a normal phone, you are
out of your flipping mind.
But I really like it.
I like a lot of things about the experience and the idea of having more screen in front
of me is just like, look at my business calendar.
Yeah.
That's really awesome.
Is that not amazing?
Like I have so much space to work or like...
That's really awesome.
From a, from a, like I actually haven't played a single game on it, so I have no idea how
good that experience is, but you know, team viewer.
Okay.
So firing up...
An actually decently usable amount of space.
Yeah.
Like here, let me just, let me just bring this up here.
Careful.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
I'm good.
It's just my desktop upstairs.
Yeah.
So I have a, like a mega ultra wide monitor on my desk.
And normally when I log in from my phone, which is usually vertical because that's sort
of how I'm using it most of the time.
Because otherwise like the keyboard's unusable and stuff.
So normally like I can't even see that much stuff, but like, hold on, let's find a different
browser tab.
There we go.
Like that is a lot of, that is a lot of browser to be able to see, you know, I have a black
desktop background.
So, you know...
You can effectively see the whole informational part of the site.
Like that is like, it's like really usable.
Like I can really do stuff, you know, bring up my keyboard and I still have like a kind
of monitor-y looking size thing.
Like I, I absolutely love this thing from a productivity standpoint.
Like email.
Oh man.
So he took this and he just about creamed himself.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
Um, so check this out.
So I'm just going to, I'm not, I'm just going to go to a stupid inbox.
It doesn't matter.
Okay, cool.
So here we go.
So here's an inbox I don't care about.
Watch this.
Oh, wow.
It's the tablet view.
It's a little hard to see, but you have like all of your, your different emails on the
left and you can read the email on the right and it's like still more space on the right
than you normally have.
I pretty well, I really liked this thing.
Yeah.
So more screens in the pocket.
I am officially on board that train.
Let's talk about their Microsoft's new dual screen devices.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's huge.
That's the main thing I want to get your input on because you've always been a proponent
for smaller phones and now you have a small phone that turns into a giant phone, but this
thing's like kind of always giant.
I think this link was to the wrong thing.
Uh, the, yeah, no.
Okay.
That's the laptop thing.
Yep.
Hold on.
I think I clicked the wrong one.
Surface duo smartphone.
Here we go.
All right.
So let's bring this up.
There's yeah.
There's a picture of her holding it right at the top.
There we go.
So it's big.
They bailed on the idea of a folding display, but they've gone ahead with a folding phone.
I love that it's Android.
I have to give Microsoft so much credit for having the stones or having the, I don't even
know what to call it.
The humility, the, the, the, the something self-awareness to just go, okay, our strength
is in software as a service now.
Um, you know, it's in building, we're using Microsoft teams now here.
It has issues to be very clear.
I'm not necessarily recommending it to anyone, but like to, to building software that runs
on hardware and, but then also building hardware, but then now building software that runs on
other people's hardware and software, like they're, they've just, they've shown a degree
of fluidity that I feel like the Steve Ballmer Microsoft did not have.
They went from a huge amount of derpy devices that I think were mostly just fun to laugh
at and like question, like people love the zoom.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, the zoom was amazing.
The zoom software was incredible.
I never actually owned a zoom.
I had no money at the time, especially cause it was up against iTunes, which at the time
was maybe it's better now, but like even if I didn't exist, zoom software was fantastic.
I loved it.
I use it as a player on my desktop all the time.
I mean kind of a little bit after that.
Right.
They had, they had a lot of derpy stuff coming out.
The windows phone was just awkward and all that jazz.
But in the last little while they've been kind of fun surface headphones.
Oh wow.
They're surprisingly really good.
Okay.
Yeah.
They're fine.
They're not like the best.
Yeah.
No.
Like I wouldn't buy them cause they aren't the best for the money.
Oh wow.
Amazing.
What a surprise.
But if you're into the aesthetics or the comfort or whatever, it could be a solid option.
And the controls are cool.
Yeah.
And then like their laptops have been getting better and then this is like interesting.
But yeah, you're the only person that I know personally that's been using flippy phone.
Yeah.
This is pretty, I just mean the concept.
Ah yes.
And this is pretty different I think because it's using just one of these screens.
I know it flips all the way around, but that's still going to be kind of hard.
So here's my sort of, you know, bummer take on the surface duo.
I think it definitely has a market.
One of the, yeah, it definitely has a market.
But one of the things I like about the galaxy fold, let's feel this, hold it feels like
a phone.
It feels like a heavy chocolate bar.
Yep.
And when you're using it as a phone, it's great.
And what's cool about the way that they've designed it is that everything functions exactly
as you'd expect.
There's a selfie camera here that you can use to take selfies.
And the rear camera is here, just like on a normal phone.
You want to like turn on your flashlight.
Oh yeah.
Okay, good.
It's in the right spot regardless of whether I'm using it flipped open or whether I've
got it closed.
Okay.
So your volume and all of your buttons, it's a little awkward.
I have noticed that you use the small screen a lot as well.
Yeah.
I've seen it with you with it open too.
I'm not saying you don't use either, but like you use the small screen quite a bit.
If I want to do something quickly, everything is here.
Even if it is a little on the small side, if I need to make a phone call, I will, I
will make a phone call like this.
That doesn't look as usable to me.
Yeah.
When I, when I don't need, you know, the full experience and what I've really, what this
device has done that nothing has really done for me in quite a while is that, is it has
changed the way that I use my phone.
I don't just like, because this small screen is functional, but not particularly enjoyable
to use.
I find myself not just idly whipping out my phone and like looking at it for no reason
anymore because it is a little bit more effort to unfold it.
And I actually do consider that for me personally, I consider that to be a good thing.
I don't want that compulsive behavior to be any more compulsive than it is.
Like it's, so for me, it's like, there's, there's two things that I do with my phone,
something that's like quick and I don't need to unfold it, but with purpose because I'm
not doing it for fun or something where I really want to get more done.
Well, now I can do that.
So it's like, is it worth it to invest the extra time to unfold it and like really do
something?
Like, am I focused on a task right now?
This is amazing.
And if I'm just like not really doing anything, making that less fun, I consider being to
be a very positive, much more intentional.
Yes.
So there's, it's not just whatever you have to flip it open all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
There's, there has to be an intent to when I use my phone.
It's an interesting side effect benefit thing.
And some people might not like that.
Maybe you like just the, like, you know, the convenience of just being able to like pull
your phone and do stuff like that.
That's great too.
But, and to be clear, you, you, you can do that.
It just does take a little bit longer.
Something that I've been really liking on this is eBooks.
Yeah.
Like that is, I basically have a Kindle in my pocket because the OLED display, it's not
super fatiguing.
You go, you throw the blue light filter on, you turn the brightness down.
That's something that I was really disappointed in with the ROG phone too, was that while
it's got HDR and 10 bed and blah, blah, blah.
One of the things that I really need out of a mobile display is a super dim screen, right?
Like the capability to go super, super dim because I often use my phone at night.
And this one goes so dim that I can comfortably use it to read eBooks.
Yeah.
Wow.
Like that does not, that doesn't bother me at all.
Even at night.
I have to turn this up to read it during the day.
And so it's like a little too bright here, but I could definitely see how that would
be.
I mean, we're under, we're under studio lights, so it's not really fair, but like I could
use that like that for a very long time without any noticeable fatigue.
The fold is super noticeable, but also it kind of goes away when it matters most.
So if I'm like watching a full screen video, I don't really notice it.
Whereas if I'm like looking for it or there's bright sun behind me, yeah, it's there.
I don't know.
I'm really happy with it, but so, right.
So back to the, my review of that is coming by the way.
So back to the Surface Duo.
I see the, the, the inconvenience of using it one handed as being even greater than this
one.
I think that's kind of a bummer.
Yes, definitely.
Also one of the biggest reasons that I'm so jazzed on the Galaxy Fold is having that gigantic
canvas for, for doing tasks that are typically difficult on such a small screen and having
a bezel down the middle, I think is going to be a bit of a drag.
I'd get over it.
And depending on pricing, it might make a ton of sense.
Like I'm sure that's going to be more cost effective and more reliable than the Galaxy
Fold, which has been plagued with issues.
Yeah.
There's, there's specific things that doing it on that device would be wonderful.
Yep.
Especially if you're multitasking.
Well, yeah, that like being able to have the float plane website or app up and messing
around in that while talking to people would be glorious.
So I was having issues getting connected to my carrier and I needed to copy my APN information
over.
And it's like so amazing having a giant screen, just split screen, copy, paste, copy, paste.
Woo.
So awesome.
Switching windows on the previous one, or even just typing it in on the one side while
you just look at, refer to it on the other side.
And this would be great for that.
It feels kind of related to when the world sort of started shifting to having a whole
bunch of tabs open instead of constantly making new windows and closing windows and all this
kind of stuff for when they're web browsing.
Because having all these tabs open and like splitting them out and having multiple browsers
up, you can copy things back and forth more easily.
I don't share Microsoft's vision for some of these things.
I don't see that being a great gaming experience personally.
Um, yeah, that, that was a weird photo when I saw it too, but I love it.
I love it from a productivity standpoint and I am super excited just in general to see
Microsoft and Google, uh, working together where it makes sense because one of the biggest
arguments for the Apple side of things is ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem.
And realistically, I don't think Chrome OS is coming after windows anytime soon.
And realistically, Microsoft's mobile operating system ambitions are dead and buried.
So if you want to not be in the Apple ecosystem, you need integration between Google and Microsoft
and you need that experience to be more seamless.
And they are, it seems to be, this is not the only way I'm trying to remember what the
other thing that happened recently was, uh, all right.
Just using Android on windows, like getting a notifications on your windows machine.
Um, like it seems to be that they're moving in the right direction to finally take the
fight to Apple in that regard.
And I'm just, I'm, I'm really, really excited about it because it was kind of cool being
in the Apple ecosystem for a bit.
I switched to AirPods, I switched to the new iPhone and I switched to, um, now you're done.
I'm out now because they just, they still haven't fixed basic stuff that is very meaningful
to me.
Um, like you.
Okay.
Let's see if I still have any notifications left on this thing.
That's locked.
One sec.
There we go.
Okay.
I don't have any notifications left on it unfortunately, but you still can't read an
entire email on it.
It's like, okay, how, how useful is that then?
Yeah.
Um, and there's just certain things where it's like, if I'm the kind of freak that wears
a smartwatch, I don't care about your activity monitoring, falling down monitoring.
Like I don't care about that stuff.
I just want my notifications fast.
I love that it has an always on display now.
That makes a big difference to me, but just it's not that polished notifications.
So we were talking about this before the show notifications like kind of suck right now
on both sides and not just notifications, but like meaningful interaction with, like
I almost want to make a video, maybe I should make a video about Mark as red.
That is the most important thing that I need to be able to do with a notification and almost
no apps support it.
For some reason, Google's SMS app is one that does support it because verification codes
as far as I can tell, like I think that's why they implemented it, but I don't know
why absolutely our teams supports it, which is nice, but I don't know why absolutely everything
doesn't have support for it.
I don't want to open the app in order to not have it be bolded or not have it have a dot
next to it or whatever the case may be.
This is irrelevant.
It's someone messaging me back saying thanks or something like that.
I never want to see that again.
And so people often give me a hard time about my notification tray being like full of stuff
and it's like, yeah, because it's the only place that I can leave them.
If I swipe it away, I'm not 100% sure what the apps behavior will be.
I can't mark them as red.
I just like, it's just, it's difficult to manage.
One of my biggest frustrations is reminders.
So Apple's new reminders app is way better than the Android situation.
Luke and I both have frustration with reminders on Android, a couple of things.
So one pretty serious ones is you is you, you can't, I mean, you could throw custom
ringtones on your device, but there's no reason you should have to do this.
You can't set a continuous ringing ringtone for your reminder ringtone, which is baffling
to me.
So you only get like, like you only get these little short, it should ring until I answer
it.
This reminder is probably very important.
I set a reminder so that I remember to do something, not so that I get a little, a polite
little, you know, like I have to, when I said, when I set the time for a reminder, I have
to try to be conscious of like, will I be on my phone at that time?
Yeah.
Cause if not, I probably won't see it.
And if you get a lot of notifications, they honestly, I don't even like hear them.
Yeah.
I don't even feel them a lot of the time.
Cause it's just, I'm kind of too many to them.
Yeah.
And the other issue is that you get this reminder and let's say maybe you had a reminder that
was open already or something, it just gets bundled.
It just gets bundled together.
It's buried at the bottom of your list, even though it's the newest thing that just came
in.
So your phone like buzzes and you're like, what was that?
And you're in the middle of something and then you don't do it.
And it's like, so that drives me nuts.
This is a little bit unrelated, but Twitter, you get Twitter notifications, you click on
one and it gets rid of like all of them instead of just the one.
And it'll like load Twitter and you need it to go to a specific tweet or someone's account
or whatever.
And then it just brings you to like the Twitter homepage and it's like, Oh, it's gone.
Good luck finding it.
Oh yeah.
I love that one.
Like someone, someone mentioned you in a whatever, you're like, Oh, what's this?
I'll never know.
Okay.
Cause now I go to my notification feed and everything's truncated into each other.
If someone followed me, it's bundled with a whole bunch of other people.
Who knows where the message is, who knows like what thread it's buried under.
I have no clue.
So frustrating.
Um, so speaking of frustrating, Oh, nevermind.
No, we do have our super chat.
So I was there anything else that you wanted to talk about?
Uh, I brought up the Google thing, owing people tons of money.
Google sued in the UK for 3.2 billion pounds.
So much, 4 million iPhone users in the UK might get 750 pounds or nine roughly equivalent
925 us dollars each, which is tons from a Google's illegal data harvesting, which went
on from 2011 to February, 2019.
That is awesome for like a class action settlement.
Yeah.
Like imagine for a second, if all of the users harmed really got substantial payments from
class actions, how much more deterred against class actions companies would be.
Yeah.
Like if you had to pay an actually reasonable settlement to everyone whose data you leave,
usually it's like $5.
Yep.
It's nothing.
Or like who you defrauded by, you know, falsely advertising something or whatever the case
may be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, they, they were bypassing privacy settings on Apple, iPhone handsets between
those dates.
So for like eight years, uh, they use data to divide people into categories for advertisements,
including ethnic origin, physical and mental health, opinions, sexuality, sexual interests,
and social class.
Gosh, darn Google.
So real cool.
But hopefully everybody gets a payout.
So that's really funny.
I half expect someone to clip this and then me talking about how glad I am that Microsoft
and Google are working together and put them together.
Okay.
I almost made a joke when you said that and I was like, yeah, telemetry from two sides.
Yep.
I mean, Hey, if my personal data is going to be out there, we might as well level the
playing field and give it to everyone.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to pull a Justin Trudeau and get like blindsided with,
you know, old pictures.
I'm just going to, I'm just going to publish every, I'm going to make my own site, you
know, like Linus, Linus is, Linus is deepest, darkest secrets.com.
I am now worthless.com.
Put everything on there.
I am now worthless.com.
What's that?
Do you get it?
No.
Cause like your data has a value or whatever.
Oh, so like in a data sense you are now with, I'm sure it's, I actually don't know why that
would exist.
I am now worthless is what I meant.
I am now worthless.
Cause you put all your data out there.
So you are of no value data wise.
We haven't done this in a while.
Yeah.
I am now worthless.com is $3, but it's like, it's terrible, but interesting concept.
Also available is I am worthless now.com.
If you don't catch either of those, you can pick up.
Now I am worthless.com for also $3.
Hey Google, you want my information?
Here you go.
Have it.
Take it.
That should just be like, am I worthless.com is also available.
So you can check if you're, if all your data is out there.
The world's saddest website.
Now I am worthless.com should just be a image feed of like people from wall street bats.
Now I am worthless.
All right.
So last thing is we want to go through some super chats.
Sembo says a portion of this video was sponsored by me.
Good job Sembo.
Email says, Hey, enjoying the show guys.
Keep it up.
Wondering if it's worth upgrading from a nine 80 TI to a 10 80 for one 20 Hertz.
No.
Is the way Linus pronounces paste a Canada thing or a Linus thing?
Paste paste paste paste, sorry, executive.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Me neither.
Uh, debug a little closer for you.
That would be nice though.
There we go.
That's a lot easier actually.
Would you like me to, are you ever going to buy glasses?
I own them.
I don't know where they are.
So okay.
Um, I can't give too much information cause I don't want to give any personally identified
like really?
No, don't worry.
Don't worry.
I got this.
I got this.
Not only do I know for a fact that Luke makes enough money to afford glasses, I own, I also
know that he has a close acquaintance who literally works in the glasses industry.
Yeah, there's somewhere.
I hate, I also fact number three, Luke's vision is terrible.
Yeah, it's serviceable.
I can legally drive, I can see a car, debug.
Someone needs to invent a little storage container that slots into the seldom you see drive bay
in a case.
I'd love a place that exists to store like screwdrivers, screws, zip ties.
I'm pretty sure someone made that at one point.
I don't think they're super popular anymore cause a lot of computers just don't even have
those anymore.
Ellie Azar says, what are the new water bottle colors coming?
Oh, Hey Nick, you wandered off.
Hey.
Yeah.
Um, can I, can I say that?
Uh, I don't know.
Should I show them?
Well, they're not available yet.
All right.
We don't have them here.
Okay.
Soon.
Very soon.
TM techmoji.
You guys inspired me to pursue computers and now BS in computer engineering.
Freaking awesome.
One year left.
Keep at it.
Yeah.
Train spot.
Thanks.
Uh, John Espoo wanted to say good night.
Um, good night to you tonight.
Uh, Justin says big fan.
Just got three shirts and love them.
Do you know when you'll restock XL CPU shirts?
Uh, Hey Nick, are we restocking XL CPU shirts anytime soon?
Yes.
Uh, hopefully next week.
Hopefully next week.
There you go.
TM.
Ryan says, uh, jokes on Intel.
I just picked up a 3,700 X indeed.
I don't know what this means.
What is GLO gang and will gang be offended?
I have no idea what this means.
I have a feeling we just played into a meme.
Sorry, Eduardo.
I have no idea.
Lego lad.
Play well.
Just wondering why are you selling two server motherboards on your merge store?
Because we don't know what else to do with them.
Um, Adam says, Whoa, I finally have a chance to be on super chat anytime you want.
It just costs money.
That's all.
It's true.
Maybe it's his payday.
Yeah.
Um, Tommy gun says, I'd love to see a many gamers.
One CPU, not one mobo or he's from epic.
He's from Norway.
You're right.
Um, so no spoilers, no spoilers.
Total spoilers.
Um, I finally got confirmation from AMDs server team that they want to work with us.
And so, uh, we might be able to get our hands on a CPU that would be powerful enough to
run an entire house worth of computers.
Apparently GLO gang or glow gang is something to do with rappers and specifically chief
chief, chief keef, a rapper.
Okay, cool.
Um, Vincent says, Hey, Linus, little trivia.
Did you know that Anno is pronounced like an anus in Spanish and, oh yeah, but it's
not Spanish.
People brought that up before.
Yeah.
Uh, executive says, need more Tyler in the videos.
Free idea.
Tyler leads Linus playing a community made character and other LMG staff in a session
of D and D channel super fun.
Yeah.
I don't know if that sounds super fun.
Yeah.
Uh, Dave says regarding the leg in super Mario world on the alien or OLED, there are tools
to eliminate retro leg.
Interesting.
Retro RGB is a great resource on this.
Yeah.
I should probably, um, Oh, I lent you the, Oh, Oh, this is a, Oh, Dave from retro RGB.
Hey, um, lent you a virtual boy recently.
Yeah.
Well, I think we've returned that.
I hope so.
If not, we'll get it back to you soon.
I think they shipped it out.
Um, I would probably request collaborative videos.
That would actually be a lot of fun.
We don't do a ton of retro gaming content, but I will let you know if anything comes
up.
Um, and yes, I do need to figure out my, my retro leg situation.
I also did just like by a CRT cause I give up.
So maybe I'll just, what'd you get?
Which one?
Uh, no, nothing special.
Okay.
I will say though, there's a, there's one on Craigslist that had my eye.
If I just felt like spending way too much money, someone's going to snag this.
I'm sure now that I'm drawing attention to it.
Um, but in my, in my searching, um, during scrapyard wars, I came across, uh, a GDM F
W 900, which is an ultra wide.
It's a widescreen CRT with BNC inputs.
This is basically the King $1,500.
Oh my God.
I saw that.
Yeah.
Virtual voice coming out on YouTube tomorrow.
Uh, what else we got here?
Thanks to Kashi after storm Linus, have you ever used and locate on Linux to search files
and take seconds to index billions of files on an SSD and the search is instantaneous.
Yeah, probably call me when Adobe premiere is available.
I mean, it's always the same, like it's always the same conversation.
It's like, yeah, a hundred percent agree.
Cool.
And our official in those situations and our 10 reasons why Linux is better.
Video is coming, obviously, obviously.
But what people don't understand, sorry, that pissed me off so much.
I'm so tilted about this whole situation.
I, when that came out, people brought up 10 reasons.
Windows is better.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, they're doing the iPhone Android thing.
We did Mac first.
Yeah.
And we did Mac first.
Yeah.
It's a series.
It's not supposed to be fair and balanced.
Oh my goodness.
It's supposed to be, here are good things.
It's just positivity.
And I mean, in the windows one, we even did acknowledge some bad stuff.
Yeah.
Geez.
Sorry.
That just blah.
I got so many messages about that.
People just have no clue sometimes.
They don't know how to fix it.
You care this much.
Like error, clue not found.
But you like haven't paid attention to how they do everything ever.
Come on.
Puneet says, I was the one on your stream the other night spamming the elemental stuff.
Sorry.
I didn't notice.
I was busy playing video games.
Ashton, greetings from Manjaro Linux.
Here have five bucks.
See gems.
Yay.
The land show.
See you guys in the archive tomorrow.
You're watching it now.
Maybe you cut the end.
Digital realm.
Started watching guys in 2011 as a 14 year old.
That's terrifying.
You are now, Holy crap.
You're now 22.
You are now an adult.
I am now a VoIP infrastructure network engineer.
Thanks to you cultivating my interest in it.
PS the office networking videos equal cringe.
We know.
Thanks Jeremy.
Paul says, risk five and RDNA is the future and unless Intel comes up with something major,
they will suffer an IBM future.
IBM's doing all right.
Risk architecture has been on the way for a long time.
Yep.
Irving says, watching this I feel like when I see my mom while she watches her famous
people gossip shows and somehow I don't hate it.
Russian taco says, I kind of miss the tunnel bear ads.
Yeah.
They're not coming back anytime soon.
Something Ninja, more Google opinion awards money.
Yeah.
I've read out about this recently.
Yeah.
Opinion awards.
Timothy says, I built my first server with just knowledge from your videos.
Sorry to hear that.
Good job though.
Oculus 42.
Thank you.
Frady L three elemental t-shirt go hardcore all over.
What are you even talking about?
No idea.
It doesn't matter.
Thanks for the two bucks.
J Japper says, there's software called search everything that catalogs everything and has
instant search and one button search anywhere in windows with walks because I shouldn't
have to do that, but is that going to add more than just pressing the start button and
typing?
Anthony says motherboard shirt.
When I don't know.
We have a motherboard water bottle.
Should probably do a shirt eventually, but it's kind of hard to design a cool looking
motherboard share.
That sounds difficult.
Paul says go fold.
Yes indeed.
Go fold.
You do it like the old, like, you know that play mat, that's a city that everyone had
when they were a kid, you could do it sort of like that where it like looks like a city,
but you laid out like a motherboard.
Yeah.
It might be too much.
Too much.
I'm not a good designer.
Chasm says you mentioned selling mouse pads in a previous plan show.
Are they coming out soon or no?
I need a new one, but I don't want to wait too long.
What's R E T A on those?
It's up in the air right now.
Yeah.
It's up in the air.
Don't wait.
Yeah.
All right.
If you need it, just get it.
Yeah.
Get a different mouse pad.
It'll be affordable anyway.
Get a cheap one and then get ours like after.
I think we're going to be around like between 20 and 30 probably.
Al Ball says, massive thanks to LTT for teaching me the PC basics.
Built my own months ago, Ryzen 2700X, GTX 1070, nice little rig.
Really happy with it.
Awesome.
Dallin Law says, what about for costume, infrared lights and reflector strips that show up on
camera but are otherwise invisible?
What about them indeed?
I think they have stuff like that, but I don't understand what the question is.
Sim TV.
Thanks.
Wolf, heard on stream you have a printer on your desk.
Why not use OctoPrint to have it elsewhere for a silent setup?
I don't have anywhere else to put it right now, but yes, duly noted.
Thank you.
I really want to put it in my garage, but I'm deeply concerned about the temperature
fluctuations and I, yeah.
So the reason I have it on my desk, I've had a lot of people give me crap about having
it in a room that I occupy.
The reason I have it on my desk is from when I put all of my machines over in the side
closet, I put a ventilation fan into that room.
So what I do when I'm printing is I crack the window in the room and I open up that
door.
So I have airflow coming right across the printer and out the door basically.
The like thick, rough filtered intake fan thing that is here would also be a good idea.
I haven't seen your setup.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But those things are pretty legit.
I don't print that often and I tend to not go in that room while I'm printing and I just
don't really have anywhere else temperature controlled that's out of the way to put it.
Right.
I'm not going to complain because I have an amazing house, but I kind of wish I had a
bigger house.
I have three kids.
They take up a lot of space.
Sure man.
I don't even want to hear your whining.
Look, your, your limited living space is voluntary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not, I wasn't comparing to myself.
Cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever.
I'm completely okay with that.
I'm not comparing to myself.
I'm just saying.
Cause, cause you are a C word.
You could like build an addition.
A cheap.
A cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You could also say that you're a cheap.
Yeah.
I'm pretty cheap too, but not about certain things.
Not about certain things.
When it comes to camera equipment, I'm pretty sure that I don't see your business when it
comes to the business.
Not cheap.
When it comes to you personally, you're definitely cheap.
And Zach is says, is AMD coming back from where they're back?
Yeah.
They're back, baby.
Yeah.
Thanks Matthew.
I was gonna say like, yeah, but they're there.
Yeah.
They're kind of here.
Jay says, I just checked the 3900X.
It's still 473 pounds in the UK.
We're looking at US numbers.
No problem.
Yeah.
US numbers.
Okay.
What else we got?
Robert mail says people shouldn't drink that much milk.
Our slash never broke a bone.
Would like to have a word with you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Milk is not that's okay.
Calcium.
Hey.
Probably a joke.
Subreddit.
Oh, is it?
It's prob.
Probably.
That sounds like a joke.
I am curious.
For those who are safe, wait, yeah, it's a joke.
This is, this is awesome.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
You know what?
We're going to experience this subreddit.
Okay.
There's a pretty good one.
For those who are safe on Reddit.
Hold on a second, ladies and gentlemen, this isn't the most appropriate.
This is things you are cool and have good bones.
There's a gate that, wow.
The next one after the ad.
Oh man.
Good Lord.
Oh man.
You've been visited by the dairy dictator.
He will grant you enough calcium for Spooktober.
No need to updo.
What am I even looking at?
I like the next one.
Bones win halves milk.
Oh my God.
Okay.
That's fantastic.
Thank you for that.
I think we're just about done here, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's see if we've got a couple other ones.
Inocuous Remarks says, am I stupid for considering a prebuilt?
No, of course not.
Some people like got stuff to do.
You don't feel like building a computer.
It's all good.
Are we going to review OnePlus TV from Ran RB?
We're planning to, yes.
Zion says Linus needs a tape delay to not maybe leak stuff.
Yeah, probably.
The detail says in theory, in the future, if I were to apply for a job at LTT, do I absolutely
need a Canadian work permit?
You betcha.
And Bob Barry says, are you going to have a sale on underwear soon?
I'm a poor college student and need a new pair.
Well, what would be a really good idea would be not blowing $5 on a super chat to ask me
about putting underwear on sale, but I'll tell you what, Bob, if you can send to our
email, which is publicly facing, if you're not smart enough to find it, then I don't
feel bad for you.
We'll give you exactly $4.99 off.
If you can send evidence that you are, in fact, that Bob Barry, I will personally give
you a special deal on three packs of underwear so you will have a full week's supply.
And guys, don't send me super chats like this all the time.
I will ignore them.
This is just because this has never happened before.
We're just doing something special for our buddy Bob Barry over here.
But look, poor college student who wastes too much money on super chats, clearly you
have a lot to learn.
It's good you're in college.
We just want to help you out.
Okay.
You're in a bad situation.
Yeah.
You need to go take some finance courses.
We're going to, we're going to get you a hookup.
All right.
Right.
Bob Barry.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Peace out guys.
Thanks for watching.
Sorry.
Oh, media Mondays will be back soon.
Oh yeah.
Our restocks coming, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks for watching guys.
Peace out.
Same bad time.
I came across kids are acting stupid a little while ago.
It's pretty great too.
I haven't seen that, but I love the name.
It's a good one.