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Oh, no! Not this side.
Dang.
We have got a great show lined up for you guys today.
We are finally going to be doing this segment where I find out if I was right or Reddit was right
about the difficulties that I had unsubscribing from Apple Arcade on my Apple TV, actually,
even if it does work properly.
That might mean something changed, but we'll get into that a little bit later.
We're also going to be addressing the community response to our NVIDIA Super Series review.
And, hey, maybe I left something for Luke to talk about.
He's got to pick topics now, so he can't be distracted by his phone.
Yeah, that's what I thought, Luke.
Did you talk about the EVs?
Nope.
Oh, nice. Okay, so GM is to bring back plug-in hybrid EVs, which is awesome, actually.
Yeah, hilarious.
Something that we've been asking for for a while now, and...
Ever since they stopped making the Volt, I was like, wow.
Which was an amazing car.
What a terrible decision.
Yeah.
How could they make this to...
Oh, okay, yeah, they unmade the decision.
Very cool.
Which is great.
Good job.
Did you talk about the Neuralink?
Nope.
And Neuralink was put in a person.
Someone agreed to do that.
Luke, could you pay less attention?
Yes.
Not much, though.
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Why don't we jump into the community response to the NVIDIA Super Series review.
So, we decided, rather than to spread our coverage of NVIDIA's Super lineup, the 4070 Super,
4070 Ti Super, and 4080 Super over, I think it was a grand total of, I want to say...
I think it was nine?
It was like, it was somewhere between seven and nine total embargo dates.
I don't know either, yeah.
Between the...
No, I think it was seven.
I think it was seven, because they had the announcement, then they had unboxing embargoes
for each card, then they had review embargoes for each card.
No.
Then they also had a separate...
Software or something?
They had a separate review embargo for partner cards, rather than Founders Edition cards,
for at least some of them.
It was some ludicrous number of embargo dates, and I was kind of sitting here going, okay,
so basically what you want is you want video after video after video after video that is
just dedicated to talking about a mid-cycle refresh.
Sorry, no.
So, what we're going to do is we're just going to consolidate it into one video.
However, there is one super thing that people are pretty upset about in this particular video,
and that was the non-inclusion of AMD's RX 7900 XTX.
Seeing as it's widely viewed as an important competitor to the 4080 Super, not least of which
because it is at the same-ish MSRP.
It's actually a little bit lower from the listings that I've seen.
Somewhere in the kind of $930, $40 to $950 range.
Oh, USD, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not in rubles.
Canadian rubles.
I was looking at our price, I was like, that's really far off.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So, basically, I was in the room when it happened, when we made the decision to not include the 7900 XTX.
I have some of my own thoughts about why we ultimately made the call that we did to include the suite of cards that we did,
but I'm going to start with the news team summary from Adam, who was the writer on that project and who worked with the labs on it.
So, basically, point A, the decision to exclude the 7900 XTX was based on a combination of relevance and testing capacity.
We saw this as a review of the new Super series as a whole.
It was not a review of the 4080 Super, even though we did target close to the 4080 Super embargo,
since that was the last one from the lineup.
The 4080 Super is anywhere from 2% to 3% faster than a base 4080,
making it more of a refresh with a price cut, essentially, is how we kind of laid it out in the video.
We referred to it as 4080 Refresh, 4080...
Internally, we were calling it 4080 Refried, 4080 Redux.
Retesting cards for up-to-date results takes time.
We tested a total of 11 cards for this video.
We haven't fully rolled out our new standardized test benches that allow us to test in parallel yet.
So, there was a limited number of cards that we were able to...
Which, if you are interested in that, there's a video on that that's awesome,
where they test all the CPUs. Go back and check that out.
We actually ended up adding a couple of cards that weren't in the original meeting,
and there was one more spot where we kind of went,
OK, can we test one more card? If so, what will it be?
And the debate was between the 7700 XT and the 7900 XTX.
And the decision was, OK, let's go with the 7700 XT.
We don't want to cut the older cards.
We've gotten really good feedback from people that it's really nice to have popular older cards.
So, we chose our previous generation cards based on what is still holding really strong in the Steam hardware survey.
We didn't want to cut those because we've gotten really good feedback on them.
And we figured that the 7700 XT would give additional context for the lower-priced cards that would be relevant to the greater number of viewers.
Obviously, not everyone agrees.
Number two is being selective about how many cards we retest in every video is an important consideration to avoid unnecessary stress and overtime.
This is one of those funny things where it's always kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't, catch 22.
If we test 35 cards, I'm going to be questioned on why we have so much crunch here.
If we test three cards, I'm going to be questioned on why we're so lazy here.
At the end of the day, you know, there's always trade-offs.
And we ultimately made the trade-off to go with the 7700 XT rather than the 7900 XTX.
There's a lot of stuff going on in the tech world right now.
And, you know, coming back to sort of my thoughts on it, first of all, we are going to, we're going to address it.
I think someone is doing some OT this weekend to test 7900 XTX.
We're going to get those numbers added.
But, you know, the reality of it is looking at the percentage of people that are very upset about this versus the percentage of people who are actually buying a 7900 XTX, they're very, very different.
And what it seems like to me is that this is one of those things where maybe video is just, like, not the right format.
Like, one of the challenges, too, is you can only include so many cards if you want to have averages, which do matter.
It's a legible chart.
And 1% lows, which, in my mind, are actually more important.
If you want to have all of that in a 16x9 graph, it starts to get kind of illegible past a certain point.
And I'm kind of looking at it going, man, you know, maybe the solution is why exactly are we doing a review for a GPU anymore?
I mean, we killed power supplies 10 years ago.
We killed motherboards, like, 9 years ago as sort of, here's a product that merits a full LTT video.
It didn't particularly perform better.
No, it didn't particularly perform well at all in spite of the fact that it was a ton of work.
Like, man, let me tell you, the cards that we did test, guys, it was meticulous.
We put so much flipping work into this stuff.
And I'm sitting here going, if it's not about what you're actually going to buy, which is the feedback that I'm kind of hearing right now, and it's more about what you just, you want to see it compared, right?
Like, you want to see, you know, the green horse versus the red horse, which one ran the fastest.
And that's fair enough.
That's totally valid.
But that doesn't need to be a video.
And maybe the long-term solution is the lab's website.
And we just basically go, okay, yeah, the card comes in.
We test the stuffing out of it.
And if it's actually interesting, then we make an LTT video.
And we put all the effort into all the different ways that we present the graphs so they're paced with the script and all the things that go into making an entertaining, dense video.
I mean, I'm actually, other than that one miss, which I acknowledge 100%, yeah, looking back at it, I flagged it.
I was like, hey, we should probably have the 7900 XTX.
And the argument that was made to me, as I recall, was, well, here's the thing.
The 7900 XT has dropped in price so much that it actually makes a ton of sense now.
And so by taking this end of things and just having the 4080 Super be there as a $1,000 card, I mean, to be clear, we never recommended spending $1,000 on a GPU at all.
So just, yeah, having that thing sit there and be its thing and then looking at anything that we actually think might be worth buying in more detail is the right approach.
And I kind of went, okay, I mean, I, the enthusiast, I'm curious, I'd want to know, okay, how does the 7900 XTX stack up against the 4080 Super?
It really is a fairly apples to apples comparison.
But I accepted that, I accepted that reasoning and I accepted the rest of the reasoning that's in our notes here today.
And we ultimately didn't include it.
Other than that, honestly, I think it's a great video.
It's really short.
One of our goals going into it was to spend absolutely zero, zero time wasting the viewer's time.
So from the moment this video starts, there we go.
Oh, viewer time wasted.
There we go.
Yeah, exactly.
From the moment this video starts to the first performance graph is, sorry, sorry, it happened really fast, is,
five seconds.
We wanted to get to the point right away.
And then our next graph, where we basically start laying things out.
Here we go.
We compare it to an older card, comes at about a minute.
And then we get into actual results within about 80 seconds.
So that was our goal.
We spent a total of 13 minutes to go through this whole kind of sort of interesting launch.
We talked about the changes in pricing.
We talked about the changes in performance.
And yeah, there's a card missing from the graphs, but...
I found it.
Oh, what'd you find?
I found the card.
So...
Card located.
Yeah, I can actually tell you about that.
So, noticing that, hey, maybe we should acknowledge this card.
I think Gary actually ran some testing over the weekend, and then we added that table.
But we didn't remake all of the graphs because we were like, okay, it's $1,000 GPU.
How many people are actually buying this versus, versus for most people actually shopping, how much of the information have we presented in this video?
Yeah, swing and a miss.
But overall, I'm still, I still think this is a good direction.
Reducing the amount of time that it takes to process these sort of uninteresting refreshes.
And the main takeaway for me, from this whole experience of that, man, do you remember when one NVIDIA GPU was like millions of views and people were excited?
And now, three NVIDIA GPUs.
I saw one comment that really stood out to me.
And it was, minus nothing personal, this isn't your fault, but I'm out.
This is boring.
These GPUs are boring.
I don't care.
And I think NVIDIA feels the same way.
Yeah.
What's their stock up?
Like six points today?
Or something like that?
I don't even know.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the RTX 40 series super launch.
Five points?
I don't know.
It's funny reading comments like this.
I usually agree with Linus, but, you know, hard pass on this reasoning.
What reasoning?
I said it was a miss.
What do you, what do you, I'm explaining why it wasn't in there, because that's what people want to know.
And then I'm saying it was a miss.
I don't really know what there is to disagree with at that point.
Here was our reasoning.
No, that person thinks it shouldn't have been in the video.
I'm joking.
Oh, well, that makes more sense now.
He's agreeing with the original decision.
Yeah, I, I just, I just, I just, I just think video just might not be the right format for this anymore, though.
And I think it might depend on the card.
Right.
But what cards?
Yeah.
Name.
Okay.
Like, I bet you a 5,000 series launch, even if the difference is this small, I bet you a 5,000 series launch would kill.
Here's the problem.
The problem is that 5,000 series is going to be flipping fast, because NVIDIA has to do all of the development anyway, in order to make better AI accelerators.
Yeah.
So, it's going to be flipping fast.
But I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a 5090, or, you know, whatever they end up calling it, TI, Super, RTI, who knows anymore with their naming scheme.
So, whatever the 5090, whatever that equivalent Halo tier card is, I wouldn't be surprised to see it at $2,000.
And what gamers have shown NVIDIA time and time again is that they'll pay.
Yeah.
Because something to consider, something that I think the components buyers don't necessarily think about that much, because it's a really different perspective, is that for most people, a $400 difference in the GPU is actually only about an 8% difference in the total cost of the system they were planning to buy.
If you're buying a system that would have a 4090 or a 5090 or whatever else, like some kind of Halo spec card in it, you are spending probably somewhere between $3,000 to $5,000 on that computer.
And so, when you play around with the sliders, you're not looking at, oh, I just spent twice as much on my GPU, you're looking at, oh, I just spent 25% more on the total system for, you know, let's say, call it a 50% increase in performance, or, you know, whatever that increase is generationally.
So, the calculus is really different, and most people don't build their own computers.
So, the market reality that someone like an NVIDIA is setting their price according to is not aligned with the reality that we see when we put together, like, a price to performance, like an FPS per dollar chart or something like that.
Because the FPS per dollar that we calculate is based on only the card pricing, whereas someone who's buying a computer, someone who's buying a fully completed system, is not actually looking at it that way.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, we got a million views.
And so, I'm sitting here going, okay.
Do you think that was, like, do you think it would have gotten more views if the, if the sentiment around it was better because the 7900 XTX was included?
No, I don't think so.
I think it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a small number of people who are upset about it in the grand scheme of things.
The like-dislike ratio in this video, I can bring this up for you guys, is actually not abnormal in any way.
Here, let me pull it up.
There we go.
So, it's net positive for subscribers.
Engagement is about a percent below channel average, but it started out for the first probably eight hours or so, a percent above channel average.
It started out being received extremely well.
And then over time, as people have piled into the comments, it's been received much more poorly.
Sentiments shifting.
Yep, sentiments shifted.
I've seen that before.
And so, oh yeah, view duration is, oh, view duration is extremely low.
Wow.
You gave them the whole story at five seconds.
Oh, this is amazing.
So, yeah, this is, this is what happens when you're basically like, okay, yeah, here's the deal.
Here's what's up with this thing in the first two minutes.
So, we get to 1080p results and everyone's like, see you later.
So, this gray band right here is your typical duration for a video of this length.
On this channel.
Or your typical retention.
On this channel.
So, this is specifically relevant to our channel.
All anyone wants to see is a graph.
And then the rest of it is just kind of like noise, apparently.
Um, so this is one of those things where I think people think they want to see a lot of graphs and a lot of visualizations and a lot of analysis.
They want it to be interesting.
But what they actually want is to watch an interesting video.
And what really stands out to me about this particular one is, and to be clear, I'm not saying we're not going to cover GPUs.
I'm just saying it's probably going to end up being on short circuit.
Or not be like a default.
You're not going to cover it by default anymore.
Or we'll do it, but not bother doing it at embargo.
Why are we bothering?
Let's test it.
Sure, we'll test it before embargo.
We'll make sure the thing's actually interesting.
And then let's put together a cool project with it or something.
Rather than just saying, here's a GPU.
Or maybe we consolidate it.
You know, we do a quarterly GPU update.
That's kind of cool.
I would click on that, personally.
Because the problem with at launch videos, and this is an inherent problem.
This is not something that I think anyone can solve.
Is that you're taking the manufacturer's word for what the street pricing is going to be.
And that ended up causing a lot of backlash toward the reviewer community back when NVIDIA and their partners were increasing pricing on the 30 series.
Because we would review a card with the best information we have at the time.
And then it would turn out that it would have a street price that's 20, 30, 50, 100% higher.
And all of a sudden, it's our fault.
And we're sitting here going, crying out loud, guys.
Because, yeah, in the past, they've been off by a little bit.
But my goodness, this has never happened like this before.
And so, if we do something like a quarterly update, then we can basically just go, okay, yeah, here's the actual street pricing.
Here's the testing for this particular card.
The one that anyone is actually buying because we can look at, okay, what's getting the most reviews?
What is actually ranking high on, you know, bestsellers at sites like Newegg or Amazon or Best Buy or whatever the case may be?
And we can give you guys a snapshot of what the market looks like without any constraints.
Like being limited to pricing information that is provided to us in a very optimistic form by the GPU chipset maker.
Yeah.
Right.
So, the reason I had brought this up was because...
Here, hold on.
I'm just going to filter by...
And to be clear, guys, views is not the be-all and end-all.
It's not the only reason we make videos.
We make videos because we think something's really cool or we make it because we think this is something that's never been done before
or because we think it's something people really need to know.
Occasionally, it's just because I'm really passionate about something.
I want to talk about it.
We have a video coming up soon that is not going to get a lot of views.
It's going to be called Stop Calling Them Chromebooks.
Oh.
And it's basically, I don't know, video essay or kind of a chat about how I believe that Chromebooks are going to become laptops.
We're not going to call them Chromebooks anymore.
We're going to call them laptops because...
Did you know that it is one checkbox now to just turn Chrome OS into I can install any Linux thing that I want?
Well, I know.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
So, Chrome OS is Linux with...
Chrome OS might be the year of the Linux desktop.
...with the Team Fortress 2 hat.
So, that's my thesis.
How many people...
I just speed ran how many people I can piss off.
I know.
I know.
Sorry.
That's not going to get a ton of views.
So, my point is that it's not the only calculus, but it is something that we have to at least consider.
We have people who I actually, it turns out, cannot pay in graphics cards and water bottles.
They do need to be paid with money.
And if we aren't making content that people...
And the other thing is that if it's not getting views, well, that's an indication that it's something people don't want to watch.
And so, we should definitely be making videos people want to watch.
And, I mean, have a look at the other stuff we uploaded in the last little while.
So, for this graphics card, we get, you know, this will end up probably in the 1.3, 1.4 range.
It has a below average.
So, our average is around 97.5% for like-dislike ratio.
Okay.
So, I did a tour of a building we bought, talking about how we're going to run lands there.
People flippin' love it.
Way more viewership.
We collab with someone cool like Medi, Electro Boom.
That video is fun.
People flippin' love it and watch the crap out of it.
We just, we come in on the weekend and just upgrade the network infrastructure.
Above average.
Even, even, even this.
Even this dry as toast.
Hey, here's 12 CPUs and we tested them.
Yeah, it didn't get views.
Which we knew it wasn't going to, but we just thought it was really important.
This is a sick video though.
So, let's see how far back we have to go to find something that people are just as apathetic about as NVIDIA's Super Launch.
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
I mean, even, okay.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
No, even this sponsored video on Asus's Zephyrus laptop refresh.
Can't get that low.
Let's keep going.
And guys, no, I, I don't think that all this negativity just comes down to that people are actually that upset about one GPU that wasn't included.
Here we go.
Here it is.
For Airjet, where we like mangled that MacBook, where we mangled that MacBook.
And I think that really a big part of that was probably the title.
We've updated the title now to include for systems, whatever.
That usually happens anywhere from a week to three weeks after we upload.
We'll add a more, a better descriptor at the end.
And, um, but I think some people thought it was going to be more something Apple can do immediately or something.
And so there was, there was a little bit of bounce off of that video, but overall it was one that the comments are overwhelmingly positive on.
So I think it was just, um, I mean, everything is just kind of like crystal ball, um, at a certain point.
Um, you know, why, why did people like this or not like it?
And you can, you can read a lot of comments.
You can look at a lot of analytics, but it's, there's always going to be a little bit of guesswork involved.
Uh, but at the end of the day, yeah, this, um, it's a high risk, low reward video.
I like the idea of we'll still produce that type of content.
Yeah.
It'll just be an article on the lab's website.
It'll be a craft.
And if it's in the creation of that, we're like, Whoa, there's a cool story here.
Now there's a video.
Now there's a video.
Cause that's, that's something we've discussed about how the lab site could work for a really long time.
So you can still come to Linus tech tips, Linus media group to get this type of information.
Just clearly you're sniping the video for graphs anyways.
So just go to the site and get the graphs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that's that way.
There's just, there's zero wasting of anyone's time.
This is all you want to know anyway.
Yeah.
And then we need to test the stuff anyhow, because I want to do, I want to do more build
videos and stuff like that.
I want to, I want to do cool builds.
I want to do more.
I want to do more roundups.
I want to do more, um, just kind of updates, keeping people up to date.
So we have to do the testing anyway, but we don't have to do it on embargo day.
We don't have to do it under constraints, like not having proper access to what the exact
pricing is going to be prior to publishing time.
People don't have to pull like crazy fever dream all nighters and weekends and stuff like
that.
Yep.
I think, you know, at the end of the day, this is not entirely my decision.
This is something that we're going to talk to the team about, but it's also not something
that I think is that outlandish anymore.
And we've seen this decline over time.
And this is not the first time we've asked the question, should we do GPU reviews anymore?
I think the first, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think of a GPU that launched, um,
looking at all the negativity around 40 series, that was, that was certainly a time when we
wondered, I would say probably around the time of 40, 60 series and the 7,600, we were
just looking at it going, if AMD and NVIDIA can't even care about this category, how can they
possibly expect their customers to care?
And if their customers don't care, why are we, why are we covering it?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Man, uh, I'm trying to think, probably the peak would have been the announcement of the
3080.
Let's have a look.
When was that exactly?
Um, I think you'll be surprised how long ago it was.
I'm trying to...
So that was also at a very particular time, which makes sense why it would have peaked,
uh, September 17th, 2020, when everyone was like, I'm going to stay indoors for a super
long time.
This was the peak.
And you can play video games on computers?
5.1 million views.
And yeah, it's been three years or whatever, but don't kid yourself.
Nobody's watching that today.
Yeah.
Uh, that was, that would, that took off like a rocket ship.
And then the actual review, yeah, that was the last time people cared about a GPU launch.
Yeah.
What was the 4080 launch?
Brutal.
Uh, yeah, we can have a look.
4080.
Right.
1.1 million.
No way.
No one cared.
No way, dude.
Pricing, it's a $1,200 graphics card.
Who gives a s***?
Yeah, fair enough.
$1,200.
I could buy, I could buy a PlayStation 5.
I could buy an Xbox Series X.
And a TV.
I could buy an extra controller for each of my bros.
For each, I'm sorry, for each of those consoles.
So, you know, me and my little brother or my little sister can play together.
And some games.
No, because it's 500 bucks each for those consoles.
Is it?
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Not if I get the, not if I get the digital edition, but if I'm buying first party controllers.
You're also probably getting bundles.
If I don't buy first party controllers, though, yeah, I might even be able to squeeze in a TV.
Maybe.
It'd be, that'd be really tight.
Oh, I was, I was assuming, once you added the second console and stuff, I was assuming you weren't going the TV route.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
No, but, or I could, or, to your point, I could buy a console, a full complement of first party controllers, and a decent TV.
And your console's very likely coming with a bundle.
It's f***ing ridiculous.
Like, it just doesn't, it doesn't make any sense anymore.
Yeah.
No, I don't know, I just, and I'm tired of being mad.
Isn't anyone else just tired of being mad?
I don't know if they are, but I am.
It's exhausting.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
I don't know.
And, like, to be completely honest, a lot of the old cards are fine.
I don't know.
Like, 1440p monitors, 90 to 144 frames per second.
Decently old cards are running a lot of new games, no problem.
Yep, I mean, we...
At very respectable settings.
We did this video a little while back, only you can't, this is a, this is probably a bad title.
I don't know how to fix it, though, because it's sort of a...
Yeah, I don't know how to fix it, but basically, I scrapyard, scrapyard warsed a single GPU.
The only solution to GPU pricing.
Yeah.
What a great intro that was, bag to GPU.
Anyway, the point is, instead of being mad, just don't give them your money.
Yeah.
Buy a secondhand GPU.
Yeah.
There's a lot of them out there.
And they're generally in a really good condition.
I don't think I've...
Or not.
...personally ever bought one that ended up being a problem.
Or with a little bit of MacGyver know-how.
I mean, the one that I bought in this video had a fan that was a little bit squeaky.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, okay, but that's fixable with, like, a $4 fan off of AliExpress.
Like, the...
I, uh, I'm, I'm...
It would be very off-brand for me to say, well, then, hmm, I don't know, the fan could, uh...
The fan could make a little bit of extra noise, so you should probably buy a brand new card.
Yeah.
That's not, that's not, that's not me.
That's never gonna be me, guys.
Yeah, like, someone in chat, I think I lost the message, but, uh, let's see.
Red Pigeon in chat said, my 3080, it's a pretty high-end card, uh, but my 3080 still runs everything
I play perfectly.
The only game it struggles in at high settings is Cyberpunk, which is, like, an extremely,
insanely hard game to run, especially in high settings.
It's also one game.
Yeah.
So play it, and then...
Just run it at, like, medium.
And then run it at medium.
Medium, yes, it actually still looks really good at medium.
Yeah.
Um, I feel like we do end up, I feel like we do end up getting kind of taunted into spending
more on a GPU sometimes by just the existence of higher detail sliders.
Uh, I do, I do wonder, as much as a, as a geek, I love that CD Projekt Red just keeps
adding new technology to Cyberpunk.
You don't have to turn it on, though.
It's the coolest thing ever.
I mean, it's the new, it's the new crisis.
They, they literally add settings that they know that no modern hardware can possibly push
at a, at a reasonable frame rate.
But I, I do, I do wonder if that ends up almost having, like, a negative effect on people.
Like, the existence of that slider makes them feel bad about their GPU, and if they just
set it to a lower setting, and then just never looked at it at, you know, Ray Trace Ultra
overkill, you know, preset or whatever.
They would just enjoy the game and, and, and be happy with it.
Yeah.
I mean, some of the biggest games this year, Palworld, you don't need a fricking powerful
GPU to play Palworld.
No.
Not at all.
Baldur's Gate 3 is going to run fine.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, I, I, for a period of time, ran Baldur's Gate 3 on a, uh, Titan RTX, which is 2080 equivalent,
I think, roughly.
No problem whatsoever.
2080 Ti.
2080 Ti, okay.
Yeah, 2080 was a lot lower than 2080 Ti, because NVIDIA's naming scheme means nothing.
It's, it's ridiculous, yeah.
Um, but, but still, that's, that's multiple generations back, and I, I don't think I noticed
a huge difference when I put in one of the newer, more powerful cards.
It's just, I ordered whatever.
So that's two of the biggest games in the last quite a while, neither of which would have
an issue with a 2000 series card, let alone a 3 or 4.
You can run Lethal Company on a potato, that's another game that blew up recently.
Yep.
Speaking of running games on a potato, we finally did it.
Potato powered computer?
No.
Okay, good.
Run for like a second, if you got it to turn on at all.
You probably could.
I have no idea.
The potato computer.
What?
It's water cooled.
What?
Because of course it is.
You're not going to explain, are you?
It's a potato computer, there's nothing to explain.
We built a computer in a potato.
In a potato?
Is this like a, a special variety of potato that's extremely large?
No.
Oh.
It's a russet potato?
See, that's probably going to get more views than the 4080 Super Refresh.
Oh, it'll get way more.
Yeah.
And it's also way cooler because...
It's interesting.
Honestly, it's, it's technology that's actually moving really fast right now.
Like we, because what we're highlighting is AMD's APUs and how...
Oh, okay.
And so there's this really cool Minis Forum system that we use to, that we dismantle in
order to, to make our potato PC that is...
Shockingly small.
Because I haven't seen anyone integrate these processors, these, these really powerful APUs
that AMD's been coming out with over the last year or so in anything other than a handheld
gaming PC or a laptop where you can only make them so small because they have to have screens
and batteries and, and, and things that you don't need in a standalone PC.
So things like this big.
It's, it's freaking tiny.
And we were like, can we finally do it?
Anyway, a lot of shenanigans ensues because it's me and David who, we seem to have developed
a bit of a vibe for the projects that we work on together.
But you guys aren't going to want to miss that one.
It's a lot of fun.
I just want to jump to this to, to talk about your previous point.
Oh, sure.
Um, so there's an Xbox series X.
Oh, that's Canadian pricing though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
My point though.
Yes.
Is that it comes with 24 months of Game Pass Ultimate.
Oh, wow.
So for, um, half the price of a 4080 Super, you can have this and two years of playing.
Does it come with EA Play 2?
Yeah.
It comes with both.
Yeah.
Hilarious.
So, and like, this is Canadian dollars.
So when you, when you look at 4080 Super in Canadian dollars, there is easily enough money
to get a very solid TV on top of this.
I talked to NVIDIA about this at CES.
I was basically like, look guys, um, I get it.
You know, Silicon's expensive.
It's not like, it's not like you set TSMC's pricing.
I understand that.
Um, and I also understand you guys are a public company.
You have to maintain, you know, your margins in order to make sure that stock price go up
and all those things that you have to do, I guess, in order to, in order to maintain
your health and, and keep investing in the future of technology and all that stuff.
And they, and they do that stuff.
They, they build really cool technology.
I'll never hate on NVIDIA for their tech.
It's amazing.
Um, but guys, you have to kind of understand what's going on here right now.
You are alienating your, your evangelical users.
You are even worse than alienating.
You are, you are creating a culture of apathy in the gaming enthusiast community.
They're just bored.
And that is a huge problem.
Not today, not tomorrow, but it will be.
That's going to be an enormous problem unless you just don't care.
And if you just don't care, then fine.
Um, but you know, if there's anything that you can do to convey this to the higher ups,
that it would be maybe prudent at some point to do something exciting.
Um, I think you should consider it.
And it's not like, I'm sure that went nowhere, unfortunately.
Oh yeah, I know.
Yeah.
But I mean, I had to say it.
Sure.
What am I going to do?
Not say it.
Yeah, I should say it.
And NVIDIA, NVIDIA knows how to do exciting.
8,800 GT.
When NVIDIA decides to be exciting, they can do it.
30 series launch.
That was exciting.
And when they decide not to be exciting, well, they know how to do that too.
No, no.
When I say exciting guys, I don't just mean worthy of purchase at all.
I mean, exciting.
8,800 GT was a moment of gaming excitement.
All of a sudden for literally half the price with some compromises.
It had less VRAM, but you could get performance that was close to what the day prior would have cost you $500.
I have to make some clarifications.
Sure.
Apparently, the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate All Access something or other, whatever I called it, is some form of financing option thing.
Oh, is that why?
So you pay for it over 24 months, and then it comes with Game Pass Ultimate.
So you pay for like the console and Game Pass Ultimate as a subscription for 24 months.
Oh, okay.
But then I think you own the console at the end or something.
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, however it works, you were so far below the cost of the GPU anyway that I still think we're in the clear.
Yeah, because I found this anyways.
That's US dollars.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Oh, wow.
They're under $500 now.
Wow, Microsoft must really need to move some units.
I don't think Sony's discounted PS5.
If anything, they've increased the price.
It's freaking February.
Yeah.
What?
Interesting.
Apparently, it's 0% interest, that 24-month payment thing.
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about it.
I'm not suggesting finance models.
I just found the one that isn't financing is US dollars, because that's the main thing we're having the conversation in.
And it's less than $500.
So the point still completely stands.
Here's our discussion topic.
You are now, let's say, 15-year-old Luke.
Sick.
Yeah, I know.
You know, you're stronger.
I'm happy.
Smarter, faster.
Things are improving in general.
I'm not as broken.
Do you need to talk?
Are you okay?
Things are great.
Okay, so you're 15-year-old Luke.
Yeah.
Um, the one, the one thing.
Math is going well.
The one thing that's worse is that you don't have any money.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I was very broke.
Everything else was better.
But you don't have any money.
Yeah.
Do you take up PC gaming right now?
Uh, probably not.
Or do you just play on console?
Because back then, I didn't really care.
I cared.
I mean, this is still honestly kind of true.
Just PCs can play so much more now.
Mm-hmm.
That's true.
But back then, I was in it for the games for the most part.
And I got interested in computers mostly because I needed to learn how to work with them and
fix them and keep them going to be able to play games.
And like, I needed to learn basic networking because my friend and I wanted to play Diablo
on LAN.
Mm-hmm.
And then I needed to learn still basic, but slightly less basic networking because we
wanted to have LANs of like a bunch of computers and multiple Xboxes all at the same
time.
And I wanted to be able to host servers for things and all this kind of stuff.
That was all largely because of games.
And that's what drove my passion for technology.
But we pretty much always had consoles at the same time.
And I would always pretty much play both.
Because like, I talk about how Morrowind is my favorite game of all time all the time.
I didn't play it on PC.
I had it on Xbox.
I played the crap out of the Halo games, not on PC.
Yep.
I played them on Xbox.
We had a, some of my favorite memories of playing games with my dad were on Super Nintendo
and N64.
Like.
And he played Warcraft 2 on PlayStation 1.
Not on PC.
No, I'm just kidding.
Please don't do that.
No.
And we had PCs as well, but it was about like what game I felt like playing at the time.
And if PCs were this hard to get into, yeah, I mean, we didn't have a ton of money.
It would have come down to a costing issue and would have stuck with consoles.
Like it just is what it is.
And I probably still would have gotten interested in technology because I still would have been
having LANs.
So I would have had to network these consoles together and stuff.
But like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, looking back when I got into computer games, I got into games that could run on a
computer.
I wasn't, we didn't have a fancy computer.
I don't think we had a dedicated graphics card until I needed to play Civilization 2 Test
of Time.
And in order for the full motion video diplomats and stuff or emissaries to show up, you had
to have just, you had to support some level of direct 3D.
I forget what it was, but I basically went to bargain bites, you know, some hole in the
wall, computer shop in Mission of all places.
And I was like, okay, this is the minimum requirement on the box.
I'm pretty sure I physically brought the box.
I need something.
I used to do that too.
I need something that this.
And until then, we didn't even have a dedicated graphics card.
So everything was like CPU accelerated.
And my point isn't, isn't that, you know, we couldn't have bought a GPU instead of a console
or something like that.
My point is that it was just there.
I fell into it.
We are asking for people to make an enormous commitment to PC gaming before they ever actually
fire up a game.
Yeah.
The fact that the 40 Super Refresh didn't do anything for the sub $500 range is what people
should be talking about right now.
The fact that 4060 series, NVIDIA kind of looked at, at this point and went, yeah, that
seems fine.
Is ridiculous to me.
I'm trying to see on Newegg right now what I can get for less than $449 USD.
Like if I'm an American shopper, and so I set my filter down here to $449 cap, so I can
get an entire Xbox Series X with a controller and stuff, or I can get, there isn't really
like, what's this?
Are those, hold on, hold on.
Have you filtered for things that are in stock and shipped by Newegg?
Sold by Newegg.
Newegg.
Yeah, okay, there we go.
In stock.
A lot of pop-ups, Newegg.
Newegg has turned into a gigantic piece of s*** lately.
It's very annoying.
It used to be an oasis of easy filtering and somewhat intuitive shopping, and now it's
just awful, though it's not nearly as bad as Amazon.
Did you see, I added a segment just called like Amazon Sucks or something like that.
Yeah, I want to do, I want to do a fun little demo for you as soon as you're done with this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm trying different filter options and stuff.
I just did best rating.
Sure.
Okay, so what do we got?
4060 Ti.
Awesome.
I think it's probably our best one.
So for $400, is that the 8 gig version, though?
Nice.
Yeah.
So for $400, do you know how much 8 gigs of GDDR6 costs?
I'll give you a hint.
Not a lot.
Like nothing, yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, 460 Ti.
I'm not really seeing above that, I think.
There's 7600 XTs and stuff, but those are lower.
At that point, you're saving like almost $100.
I'm not saying it's a bad deal.
I'm just trying to look for ones that are closely priced to that Xbox.
There we go.
Here's 425.
What do I get for 425?
3070.
Okay.
So I get...
When did the 3070 come out?
Because there's a pretty monster deal on this.
So basically, I can buy some ancient card from October of 2020.
That's right, friends.
I can buy a three and a quarter year old GPU that launched for...
Hold on, hold on.
3070 launch price that launched at $499.
Sorry, what was it priced at today?
$425.
Oh, man.
And...
Who do we blame?
Joe Biden?
This sucks because we're...
Yeah.
This sucks because we were telling people to go buy used, but...
Oh, these are Canadian prices, that's why.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Never mind.
So it is a lot cheaper to buy used, actually.
And there was some cheaper ones down here.
So, like, in this case, if you're going on Newegg to buy a 3070, like, you're also probably
doing it wrong.
Yeah, that's not bad.
Like, that's 230 or so US dollars, that FE for 300 bucks.
Oh, no, that's bids.
That's bids.
Sorry, that's not a buy it now.
Buy it now, 454.
Yeah.
So it's around 350.
Not that you should do the buy it now, necessarily.
Nope.
And honestly, I've had a lot of luck with Facebook Marketplace recently just because there's
no seller fees.
So on eBay, it used to be that you could get really good deals, but eBay seller fees are
quite high now.
And I understand why, because they offer buyer protection, which basically, as far as I
can tell, is just a nightmare to administer.
So there are services that they offer that do add to the cost of running the platform.
I get it.
But the seller fees are quite high.
So if you can meet up with someone in person, and if you can verify that the thing actually
works, then more times than not, it's a way to go.
It's a way to go.
People are like, eight gigs for a 3070 is awful.
Right?
But you weren't getting anything with more than eight gigs at that price anyway.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's awful.
No one's debating that.
Yeah, yeah.
Whole point is that it's rough.
Yeah.
13% is the seller fees on GPUs at the moment, apparently.
Yeah.
That's freaking a lot.
Oh, here.
Can I play this game with you?
Let's play the game called...
I'm going to go to Amazon.com and try to actually f***ing buy something.
Okay.
So I don't know.
So here's the thing.
I don't know if this is going to happen the same way that it did when I was sitting in
script review with someone earlier this week.
Right.
Because I don't know.
It seems to be just like RNG.
Let's see what's going to come up when you click on something on Amazon these days.
But I was trying to figure out what was kind of the going rate for a 55-inch TV because
we've got a really cool video coming on this.
Flanders Scientific.
Heard of them?
No.
Okay.
They do instruments.
They also do mastering monitors.
I was going to say, wait, maybe I have?
Yeah.
Yes, I have.
All right.
So what is it?
Flanders Scientific Instruments?
FSI, I think?
Yeah.
Flanders Scientific Inc.
Sorry.
Okay.
FSI.
Whatever.
Flanders came in and was like, hi diddly ho, guys.
I hope they actually said that.
They didn't.
Oh.
That would have been great.
And they brought a 55-inch mastering monitor that's based on Samsung's latest QD OLED panel.
Okay.
And we were writing an intro for this video and I was like, okay, you know what would
be kind of fun is to do a bit of a like, well, switch, you know, switcheroo where we
start the video in kind of like a ranty form.
Like, who would buy this thing for $20,000?
It's got bezels that looks like I dragged it out of my grandma's basement.
It doesn't even come with a remote control and it doesn't have an HDMI port for crying
out loud.
Right.
So we kind of roast.
Yeah.
We kind of, we kind of roast it, which is, was even more fun because the Flanders Scientific
guys were in the room while we were filming this.
The unit, they basically hand carried the unit because they were on their way to do a demo
somewhere or something and allowed us to make a video and test it because normally we would
not have access to this kind of stuff.
And then when we were done, they had to take it away with them.
Anyway, so we, so we do this bit.
And as part of that, I wanted to have a comparison point for, okay, well, what's a, what's kind
of your going rate for a 55 inch monitor?
Because sure, you could spend $1,200 on a 55 inch, did I say monitor?
Sorry.
The Flanders Scientific is a monitor, but I was talking TV.
So you could, you could spend like $1,200 on a 55 inch TV, but you could also spend X.
I wanted to know like how, how low, how low have they gotten these days?
And so the exercise was electronics, television and video, and trying to find a television.
There's one.
Here's a 40 inch Vizio.
What even are some of these things?
An antenna.
Okay.
Here's a magic stick.
I think there's a song about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the, the, the penis of magic, right?
Mm-hmm.
Magic stick.
Mm-hmm.
A man of culture.
I see.
Here's a USB-C cable.
Here's some sponsored results for a Toslink cable.
That's cool.
Did I do something wrong?
One TV.
Amazon.com.
Maybe.
Um.
Nenhancer says, I've never had the issues you've had with Amazon, but I never searched by category.
I just searched what I want to find.
I was going to say, I wonder if it's a category.
So I just searched, what's going on with me right now?
Okay, let's go to Luke Laptop.
Yeah.
I just searched the word television.
Sure.
But like, I want to browse Luke.
Is this not browsing?
See, look, they figured it out.
The filters on the side are all TV filters.
Oh my God.
But why?
Why is, why did what I, why is it that what I did didn't work?
I searched TV and that worked too.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm just saying that I.
You're just saying to get good.
I am right.
I mean, okay, maybe try and find it then.
Maybe I missed it.
I legitimately don't use Amazon.
So where, where is it?
Where's TV?
Isn't it in here?
You could try movies and television.
That's not the one I clicked on.
Okay.
Or what did I, what did I, what did I click on exactly?
I switched.
I looked at televisions and video products.
Where's that?
Okay.
No, that was, that was, that was content.
I don't think I have that.
Seriously?
Hold on.
I don't know.
I.
No, you don't.
I am not kidding.
I don't use Amazon.
It's under electronics.
Okay.
It's nested.
Yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
Okay.
So fine.
Where are the, where are the bloody TVs then?
Television video.
What even is that?
I don't know.
It's cool though.
It's a replacement lamp.
For a projector, I guess.
It looks sick.
Yeah.
For a projector.
For the restoration of color, it will bring you a feeling of being immersed.
People are telling me, hold on, hold on.
People are telling me I need to go, hold on.
We're going back to my screen.
People are telling me I need to go one level deeper.
Oh.
No, I don't.
There is no level deeper.
Model year.
What's that movie?
I mean, at least model year brings up some TVs.
Inception.
Yeah, but you got to go deeper.
I don't think there's a deeper layer.
What is this?
The Easy Mode?
Universal Big Button TV Remote.
Yeah.
Wow, they sold 6,000 reviews of this thing.
What is this?
This is a Sabrent Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter.
What is this doing here?
This is an absolute quagmire.
Get that bread, Sabrent.
And I don't see, I'm sorry guys, I don't see 3D?
Really?
What year is it?
Smart TV?
You mean every TV?
Okay, this might help.
This might help.
Okay, so if I click Smart TV.
Then that's actually, I think a lot of the same results I got when I just searched TV.
That's the magic hack.
So that's the deeper level.
And I understand why you would just search TV.
But let me explain why I don't want to do that.
Sure.
Because if I search, then I am at the mercy of whatever you're being paid the most to promote.
100%.
I am just, I am letting you.
But in my logic, if you go to the department, it's the same thing.
You don't think they're going to advertise on the department level?
Well, no, because on the department level, I want filters.
That's, or I expect to find filters.
Oh, but I got filters.
I know, but that's ridiculous.
A little bit.
Why don't I get filters?
Yeah, like if I just go to your category view, all the first results are sponsored, 100%.
Like that lamp replacement thing is a sponsored post.
Oh, I know.
It says right there.
You're seeing this ad based on the product's relevance to your search query?
No, I am not!
Sorta.
No, I am not.
This two-star lamp replacement is very relevant.
Dude, this is a dumpster fire.
Yeah.
I can't even believe this.
Well, it's the, it's the, where even is the mute button?
It's the notification of, I don't think I did that properly.
Yeah, well, fine.
Good job.
Of, of Amazon and other various websites, right?
Like, it's just getting worse.
But this isn't sustainable.
Go to, try Amazon.
So here, hold on.
What's really, what's really wild to me is if, look, okay, you know, the, the category
that I drilled down into just doesn't have the TVs in it or whatever.
I could see that.
But no, it does.
Because when I click on smart TV, they're all here.
They just didn't think that that was relevant to my interests.
I mean, what even is this stuff?
Okay, an HDMI splitter, sure.
But a Sega Genesis HDMI adapter?
What are the odds, Amazon?
What are the odds?
Hey, hey, Amazon.ca is actually better.
People recommended that and they're not wrong.
Oh, wow.
So I, I went, I went to all and then I had to scroll down further, I think.
Shop by department, electronics, computer and office.
Is this what I did?
Yeah.
And then TV and home theater.
So there was two more layers here.
So that's probably what that person was talking about.
And then I clicked on TV and home theater and it brought me here.
And then there was another layer where you just have to click on televisions, which is
fine because all these other things are related to what I've done so far.
So televisions and then boom, I got a bunch of TVs.
Let's see.
Uh, some people are saying that, oh, hold on, hold on.
Uh, ship.
Some people are saying that it might matter that it says ship to Canada in the top.
So I'm changing it to, why is it not?
I'm going to go back to.
Oh my God.
Why is it not in the dropdown?
United States, minor outlying islands.
No, why?
What?
Is that what Canada is to you now?
A minor outlying island?
No, I'm just, I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find ship to US in the dropdown.
Come on America.
It's not here.
And it's not here.
Is there another, have they changed the name to America Stan or something?
Like what, where, where the heck is America?
Yeah.
Whatever.
I just, I put in, I put in the only zip code I know.
So 90210.
Uh, here we go.
Let's refresh the page.
Nope.
Sorry, folks.
Electronics.
You got to put in a 2,500.
Televisions and video products.
Here we go.
2,0500.
Yeah.
All right.
Cool.
America's attic.
We are not.
No, we're the hat.
Come on now.
Yeah.
Figure it out.
Really nice hat.
Warm.
Yeah.
A beaver hat, you might say.
Beaver hat.
Sold out of.
What are we supposed to be doing right now?
What even is this show?
The Hudson's Bay?
Who knows?
You know, it's amazing how much of Canada, the Hudson's Bay Company owned.
Oh yeah.
Like a couple hundred years ago, like actually owned the country.
And now they're like almost gone.
Yeah.
Kind of.
What a, what a way to fall.
Yeah.
What a, what a story arc.
Amazing.
Canada actually has some genuinely very interesting history.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Like, like actually.
Yep.
And I'm not even just saying that because I'm also Canadian, but like it actually does.
Yeah.
Anyway.
It like literally was the fur trade for a while.
That was its only point in existing.
And that's why Hudson's Bay like owned it all.
It was, it was super weird.
I don't know.
Oh, hey, Luke, check this out.
What's up?
TV and video up here.
Oh.
Hey, now you got that Canadian page.
Now you click on televisions.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
No, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Okay.
So what happened?
So from the homepage, if I go here and I go to shop by department, see all electronics,
TV and video.
What the f**k just happened?
All right.
At least I can find televisions now.
So that's good.
So I want to know how much a 55 inch T.
Great.
50 to 59 inches then.
Fine.
I'll settle.
Anyway, we found the answer before.
It's about 250 bucks is what the kind of going rate for a basic 55 inch TV is.
In fact, I think this might be the one that we settled on.
It is amazing.
Oh, no, that's not it.
That's 50 inches.
It is amazing.
And it's pretty wild that you can get a nice 50 inch TV for 260 bucks.
Yeah, here it is.
This one.
TV prices are something that have not gone the route of graphics cards, it seems.
No, no.
They somehow managed to keep getting cheaper.
That's wild.
They have, man, I've talked about this before, but I actually got to experience it firsthand
for a while.
Firsthand for the first time.
Because for the first time in my life, I went to a store and bought a TV.
Not to make a video.
You know, I've only ever done that once too.
Just to have a TV so that I would have it.
Yeah, me too.
I've only ever done that once.
My grandparents have had a pretty small TV.
It was like 38 inches or 40 inches or something like that.
And their vision is not what it was.
And they do not have, at their age, they don't have the capability to go to a store and buy
a TV at this point anymore.
So I was over there and they were talking about, you know, some of the hassle with it.
And I was like, tell you what, Merry Christmas, new TV, sure.
So we went down to visit them last weekend.
And I was like, oh, I still owe you your Christmas present.
It's late January.
Peace.
I'll be back.
And so I went to London Drugs of All Places because it was close.
That is a thing.
They actually have a surprisingly solid electronics department.
It's always surprised me.
They carry Samsung, LG, Hisense.
Oh, wow.
Sure.
And Sony.
Yeah.
And so I was like, okay, well, let's have a look.
I don't, I totally understand.
Or actually, no, I don't understand how enough people are buying.
Makes no sense, especially with shipping costs.
Like LG and Samsung TVs, given how much more they cost.
Like I understand why, I understand why TCL and Hisense are gaining so much ground in North
America right now because it was literally half the price.
And even to my eye, I was like, yeah, it looks good enough for me, ma and people.
Oh, so, so I ended up with a Hisense.
I know, right?
Like got rid of my TV buying virginity with Hisense of all people.
Right?
I'll remember it forever though.
Unforgettable moment.
So, so anyway, uh, look again, looking at price.
Does he hear Dan sigh from behind the camera?
I always think about things that I want to say and then they're just absolutely not appropriate.
Again, looking at the pricing, the difference between 55 inches and 65 inches is basically
negligible.
So I was like, okay, yeah, uh, let's, well, let's get them a 65 inch TV.
Let's get something nice and big so they can, you know, see National Geographic or whatever
it is that they watch figure skating.
I don't know.
Cool.
Yeah.
My grandma likes figure skating.
All right.
So, so 65 inch TV.
Very impressive.
So I took my, I took my son with me on this errand because he doesn't do enough errands.
And I was like, you're going to do an errand.
Um, let's go get a console.
We needed to get a new console table because we discovered, you know, we found the TV we wanted
and realized it had the new style stand because it's cheaper for them to make, uh, with the
two feet on the edges instead of the single thing that kind of supports it at the back.
So we had to go to Ikea.
We had to get a little, a new little console table.
So we got that through it in the trunk.
Uh, we went back to London Drugs, picked up the TV that we'd gotten the quote for.
They had put it aside for us, dragged it out to the parking lot and went, oh, sh**.
It doesn't fit.
It's a good lesson on running errands.
Why would I drive the Taycan?
You were just trying to be a dad who teaches his son things.
Why did I take the Taycan though?
That's, that was it.
You were trying to teach him a lesson.
Yeah, but why did I take the Taycan?
I don't know.
It's because I didn't think about it.
I didn't think we were going to go out and buy a TV.
No, because you were trying to teach him a lesson.
I'm trying to give you an out here, man.
Come on.
I would have taken the minivan.
Yeah.
Um, so the real reason I drove the Taycan is because I like driving it and because it's electric.
Yeah.
I hate going to the gas station.
Yeah.
Like, I hate it.
Yeah.
So for those wondering, for those Taycan drivers out there who have a Taycan, um, you cannot
fit a 65 inch TV in the trunk unless in the rain you unbox the TV in the parking lot.
Put it in with about this much clearance to either side.
Take all the accessories out, put them under it, drag the box back inside, say, hey, could
you throw this in the compactor for me?
And then hope to whatever day do you believe in that that thing is not DOA.
You could have, um, I've done stuff like this before.
Yeah.
You could have plugged it in and turned it on while you were there.
Yeah.
I, I didn't think of that.
That's fine.
That's amazing.
Anywho.
This is actually, this is actually not.
That is a different lesson.
Yeah.
Maybe not the best one, but you get her done no matter what.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that, that's definitely the lesson.
Yeah.
And, uh, Meemaw and Peepaw now have.
And it works?
A new TV.
It does work.
Mission accomplished.
Thank, thank the maker.
Uh, Hisense in this case.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good job.
I've actually had to do that before.
The last time was buying.
Sorry, sort of in float plane chat.
Ty can't.
Just got him.
But it could in this case.
So it is still a Taycan.
So a 65 inch TV does fit in a Taycan.
No, that's not the lesson.
I actually, I actually have had to do this before and it was way worse.
Uh, when we moved to.
Wait, so this is the second time you've moved a TV with the Taycan?
No, no, it wasn't a TV.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
No, the first time I've had to do.
No, I mean, I mean, unpack something in a parking lot.
Ah.
The first time was way worse.
It was at Costco, which should give you some idea where I'm going with this.
And it was a king size bed frame.
For some reason, because I don't believe in planning.
I already had a bunch of stuff in the back of the van.
Ah, nice.
Good.
So I had to completely dismantle.
And at Costco, I was, I don't know, I was afraid to even ask them to take the packaging
for me.
So I basically Tetris the crap out of this thing, putting in the pieces every way that
I could, trying to use the packaging to keep it from like, to keep the pieces from destroying
and scratching each other.
And at the end of it, I was able to shove the trunk latched.
It was completely full.
Completely solid.
Um, yeah.
So, um, plan ahead.
You won't.
Well, it's like, what?
I'm going to pay for delivery?
Come on.
Oh, man.
And like that, that bed frame, it was wrapped in that, you know, that really, really thin
foam wrap.
So it was wrapped in that.
It was a windy day and it was like blowing all over the place and stuff.
I was in the loading zone in front of the store.
So people were like watching me do this.
I'm pretty sure at least one person walked by and was like, Hey Linus.
Cause like, it's not like I'm anonymous.
Oh my goodness.
That's fantastic.
Won't pay $10 for delivery.
So I'll spend two hours bagging it.
But yeah, that's two hours that he wasn't working.
Yeah.
Delivery for $10.
I can't get Uber Eats delivered for $10.
Nevermind a TV.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
$10.
Yeah.
What's that line that Bill Gates?
Do a backflip.
Bill Gates, the Bill Gates character on the Simpsons says, you don't get rich by writing
a lot of checks or something like that.
Yeah.
Oh man.
That's such a great scene when his goons come in and just start like trashing Homer's
living room.
I don't know if I've seen that.
He created like a website, right?
Yeah.
Or something like Homer.com with like all the junk on it and the ads.
Yeah.
And he was just, he was just bandwagoning on the .com.
Get them boys.
Yeah.
And so Bill Gates rolls up and is like, we'd like to acquire your company.
And it turns out acquire just means like wreck the joint.
Because it was like a home server that was basically just his computer and they just destroy
it with baseball bats.
I wish the internet worked more like that.
Your website is cancer.
We're just going to destroy it.
We're supposed to explain merch messages.
So the way to interact with the show is to leave a merch message.
Don't do a super chat.
Don't do a Twitch bit.
It's not like Twitch needs more money.
Actually, they probably kind of do.
We'll talk about that later.
Actually, why don't we, yeah.
Why don't we expand that thing we were doing before the show into a bit of a, more of a topic.
Twitch and the no good, very bad week.
Pokimane left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, that's interesting.
Anywho.
Merch messages.
All you got to do is head to ltdstore.com and put something in your cart and you will
see a box for merch messages.
Once you complete your order, it'll go to our producer, Dan.
There he is.
Who will either forward it to the appropriate party, reply to it himself, or curate it for
me and Luke to respond to.
We've got a couple of merch announcements before we do a couple of merch messages to
show you guys kind of how it works.
First up, we have a new newsletter this week going through the Miner Backpack.
Oh, here it is.
So make sure you are signed up for the newsletter because we are trying to provide some really
cool behind the scenes content.
Tatiana actually hosted a video over on Floatplane where she went through that backpack that had
been used in a coal mine and contrasted it with a brand new one.
This was in the lead up to the discovery that the bottom panel was not actually doubled.
So there's some really cool learnables from all of this from our materials expert.
What else do we have as an update for the merch team?
Um, okay.
I am a little confused by this one.
Oh, okay.
We have a 3D Down jacket promo right now.
I'm just going to have to go to the store to make sure that this is working.
But as winter reaches sort of the end of winter.
This is my favorite jacket ever.
Uh, jackets.
Here we go.
If you order the 3D Down jacket, which is a relatively light jacket, but very warm for
how thin it is.
Good reviews.
And there you go.
You get free shipping for your entire order.
Oh.
So if you live somewhere where shipping is expensive and there was some stuff that you
were planning to pick up anyway, then maybe pick up a 3D Down jacket at what will amount
to a pretty sizable discount.
So there you go.
You just got to click that box and you fill out this thing and it's pretty cool.
And then you go ahead and check out your order.
The last thing we have going on on the store this week is precision screwdriver notification
signups.
There's going to be a couple of reasons that you're going to want to sign up for the precision
screwdriver notification.
So that's right here on the homepage where work meets play because it's, oh, that's
cute with a twist because it's got a really nice hybrid ceramic bearing in the top.
So it'll spin for like a minute if you just kind of lightly give it a little spin.
Anyway, there's two reasons you're going to want to sign up.
First is you'll be the first to know when you can buy it.
And second is you will be in the pool to potentially get a chance to be one of the first 100 for that
first batch of top of production samples.
And then after that, everyone else is going to have to wait for mass production.
So you could end up with it much, much earlier than anyone else.
All right, Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple of merch messages?
Yeah, I've got some here for you.
Hi, LLD.
What do you think about Pal World?
Luke, how do you feel about regionals in Pokemon Go?
Do you even do Pokemon Go, Luke?
I do.
I disagree with pretty much all of the things that the Pokemon Go community seems to care
about because I play it for wildly different reasons that I think most people do.
So I don't care at all about regionals in Pokemon Go.
I don't even care slightly.
For you, it's just more of a like touch grass thing, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like whenever there's some feature that's like...
I thought that was the whole point of Pokemon Go.
Am I missing something?
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
I would...
Can I just say that I would like...
If I'm going to be cancelled...
I would like for it to be for something other than...
Pokemon Go.
This is the only time I've actually feared for my job.
I thought it was...
You're poking the hornet's nest here.
That reaction when he's like, oh, we're here now.
Let me address the community really quick before we go further.
Not that I'm not going to go further, but just...
Control Z.
Control Z.
You're going to use those mute buttons and that would be the time loop.
Oh man, that was really funny.
I'd like...
If I'm going to get cancelled, can it at least be for something cool?
You know, like...
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like graffiti.
I don't know.
People will...
Would absolutely...
Yeah, hate like all my takes on Pokemon Go.
And that's fine.
And they can just be mad about things and that's okay.
But yeah, I don't really care about regionals.
If a regional happens...
Can you explain what a regional is for those of us who don't Pokemon Go?
Got it.
Certain Pokemon are only available to be caught in certain areas of the world.
Right.
I don't need them.
Right.
I don't care.
Right.
And now if I happen to be there and I get one...
Right.
Neat.
And then for anyone in that region, I guess it's like...
If you want it that bad, then you can Pokemon Come.
Rather than go.
Yeah.
Come get it.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
Totally.
That's probably a different game.
It also incentivizes like...
I wouldn't be surprised if it exists though.
Probably exists.
Yeah.
What is it?
Rule something?
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, there's so many jokes there, but I'm just going to leave it where it is.
Yeah.
But like when I was in Japan, there's a APAC regional, which is far-fetched.
So I caught a bunch of them.
Yeah.
And when I came back, I've just been giving them to people when I'm back.
So you don't even have to go get it yourself.
Right.
If someone you know or someone in the Pokemon community around you, which it's very likely
one of them will travel at some point, happens to go somewhere and gets a bunch of them,
you can just trade them something when they can come back and then you get it.
Like it just...
I don't know.
Who cares?
Mm-hmm.
Why do you care?
I've been thinking...
I mean, it's literally the tagline of the entire franchise.
Gotta catch them all.
Okay.
Okay.
I just...
No, but this is a very good point.
I'm just saying...
I know it is.
Thank you.
I've been mulling on this thing that I...
I make very good points once.
One time.
We both know I'm never going to make this and that's fine.
But I've been enjoying the mental idea.
I've been mulling on this video idea of we all suck at playing video games.
Hmm.
And my whole...
We're doing it wrong.
My whole point is that we're doing it wrong.
Yeah, we're never making that video.
Just because the tag...
No, I'm not saying...
Blame the community video rarely goes over well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But just because the tagline is gotta catch them all does not mean that you've gotta catch
them all.
Like, you should find a way that you have fun in a game and then do that.
Right.
But, I mean, let's look at the Pokemon company's entire raison d'etre.
Like, why do they create new Pokemon so that you won't have them all?
Like, they know that this is a compulsive behavior for people that they need to have
them all and they feed that.
They do it on purpose.
For sure.
Not only do you have to have them all, you have to have them all in this game, then you
have to have them all in cards.
Oh, by the way, did I mention there are shiny cards?
You need to have them all in that form.
Oh, there's shiny Pokemon.
Don't forget you need digital cards for the digital game so you can play it online.
Don't forget about all the collectibles.
Well, you're gonna have to have all of those too.
I mean, the whole thing is just designed to exploit people who just compulsively need
to collect things, right?
And to a certain degree, you should want that because that means there's more content.
But you just gotta not be obsessive about the content.
Oh, my God.
Listen to this guy.
You just gotta not be obsessive.
Do you have any idea who you're talking to?
I don't know.
These are people who are so into computers that they are now...
Hold on one second.
There's this thing called shadow raids.
They are an hour and 23 minutes into this podcast about f***ing nothing.
What have we even talked about?
Yeah, but we're second monitor.
You're not obsessed.
Hold on.
We're second monitor.
Let's find out what monitor we're on.
I'm putting up a poll.
You gotta include third as well.
You're on my fourth.
Fourth?
Yeah, but...
We gotta stop it somewhere.
I do need more.
We still have to talk about that.
Oh, my goodness.
We'll get you one of those 55-inch TVs and just divide it up.
No, that doesn't work.
I did that at home and it's terrible for productivity.
I miss multiple monitors.
Yeah, multiple monitors are great.
So good.
Two-minute poll.
Here we go.
All right, Luke, carry on.
Okay, so this is gonna be nothing to you, but there's a thing in the game called shadow
raids.
And in...
It just leaves.
Well, it's nothing to me.
I was gonna get a snack.
That works.
I can talk to you.
No, I'm actually kidding.
So, over the pandemic, I quit playing over the pandemic because the reason I would play
it was to go outside, but over the pandemic, they added something called a remote raid
pass.
Yes.
If you wanted to do a raid, you could buy, because I don't think there was any opportunity
to get them for free.
Maybe there was at some point.
There isn't now.
You could buy a remote raid pass.
Sure, but...
I'm sorry.
Can I interrupt for a second?
What if I wanted to catch something other than a bug type?
Well, raid wouldn't be very effective against a bear.
Oh my god!
Actually, I have to applaud you for that one.
It's very good.
I wasn't sure where you were going.
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
Raid is a brand of insecticide here in North America if it doesn't exist elsewhere.
Yeah, yeah.
Raid is usually for more rare types of Pokemon.
I think the most commonly done one by at least groups of people would be legendary raids,
which are the harder ones.
They introduced these remote raid passes so you wouldn't have to go outside in order
to raid.
A cool idea.
We're actually primarily on primary monitors.
Just saying.
Wow.
45%.
That's the float plane people, though.
Yeah, so what?
They said they all use Firefox.
Why don't you make this point that you are apparently going to make it eventually?
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, I just poked that hive.
Can you not antagonize our most loyal, diehard community members, please?
So there's these things called remote raid passes.
Really cool idea during the pandemic.
They still exist.
Whatever sounds good.
People are really pissed that you can't do more of them per day.
Right.
Raids.
Remote raids.
Remote raids.
You can do as many local raids as you want.
Oh, okay.
But you have to actually get off your chair.
Yeah.
And go there.
I heard a lot of them are like churches and stuff now or something.
Like a lot of locations or gyms.
Gyms.
Yeah.
Like churches have embraced like the whole Pokemon gym thing so that people will go to
them.
Sure.
Anyway, that's a whole probably separate conversation.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I doubt it works, to be honest.
Because people show up for like a few minutes and leave.
They don't really.
Anyways, whatever.
Um, but shadow raids, you, which have a certain type of Pokemon, don't worry about it.
It doesn't matter.
You can't remote raid into them.
And shadow raids, shadow legendaries.
So like a shadow Zapdos is only going to show up on the weekend.
Uh, they can't see it.
They have to move.
You and I.
Luke created a poll called.
I did not.
Dan did this.
Dan, why?
They've kept it perfectly neutral.
His poll.
I respect that a lot.
Good job, guys.
That's actually amazing.
It's 50-50.
His poll here is, is everyone on float plane a liar?
Yes.
Yes.
Luke had, uh, Luke had the polls closed.
Uh, that was for him more than anything.
So, sorry about that.
That's where I find that amazingly entertaining, that it's 50-50.
Good job, float plane.
That's impressive.
I'm genuinely impressed.
You guys are, you guys are great.
These shadow legendary raids, they only happen on weekends.
You can't remote raid, you can't remote raid pass into them.
Got it.
That has created this emergent behavior where I will try to organize with people to meet
up on the weekend.
Yeah.
And go walk around and do these raids.
Right.
So you're, so you imagine.
That's really cool.
So you're the true Scotsman.
That's fantastic.
But no one else is a true Scotsman.
That's exactly what I want.
Right.
And people are mad because they want to be able to remote raid pass into shadow raids.
And I'm like, actually, I would rather if we couldn't.
Because now, if people want this thing, if people are going to, ooh, I go catch them all, then
they're going to have to come out for a walk.
Right.
Okay.
So like, I have differing opinions to the majority of the community, which is fine.
They can want to play the game however they want to play the game.
That's no problem.
But I play Pokemon Go for a reason that I don't think most people do.
Right.
I play it because like this weekend, there's a thing going on and I'm probably going to
walk like 15 plus kilometers in a day.
And that's great because getting myself to do that without a gamified motivation is harder.
But now I'm like excited to go walk a crazy amount of kilometers.
Some people are just going to put a bunch of lures down and sit on their butt for the
entire event.
And that will be very effective.
But I don't care.
Well, they can just be kind of like the NPCs in that region.
Yeah.
Like the trainers that are just like walking back and forth between two points and they're
like, I like bug Pokemon.
In the grass.
Do you want to battle?
That would be fantastic.
If you don't move enough, you should turn into an NPC.
And when people encounter you, you should have to battle or something.
Is that a thing?
Is that a mechanic they have?
Because if not, they totally should.
It'd be pretty sweet though.
Like if you don't move, you're just like, you're one of the people on like route six or
whatever.
It puts like a vision cone in front of you.
Like anyone that walks in front, it challenges them to battle.
Someone said, I agree.
But as a wheelchair user, there needs to be a wheelchair mode.
Wouldn't you just wheelchair around?
Well, it depends.
Not everywhere is wheelchair accessible.
Like man, it is.
That's fair.
Where I go to every time I do one of these is very wheelchair accessible.
I had a, um, I had a pretty bad knee injury a number of years ago.
But I understand not everywhere is.
Such that like walking was actually really hard.
Me too.
I had a kid for a bit.
And it was shocking.
Like how hard it is to get around anywhere.
And I was still on my feet.
It's crazy.
Um, and the thing is that like, as someone who's working on a building right now, if you
guys missed it, we uploaded a video earlier this week, outlining the plans for the badminton
center slash land gaming center.
As someone who's working on a building right now, um, I recognize a lot of the really good
things that are being done in the building code to make things more accessible.
You have to have handy, accessible spots.
You have to have X percentage of handy, accessible washroom stalls and sinks and all of that kind
of stuff.
Um, so you're like your counters have to be such that you can, you can roll up to them
and use them.
All that's really good.
But what's interesting is that building code just straight up doesn't apply to anything
that was already built.
And 98% of everything, actually, no, 100% of everything is already built like today.
You know, there will be things that exist that will become that they have been built.
But my point is just that the overwhelming majority of things were built before that.
And the planning was terrible.
Um, so yeah, yeah, that's a, that's totally a fair, that's totally a fair point.
And that's something that, you know, Niantic should address.
But I also don't think that that invalidates Luke's point that a lot of people are able-bodied
and just don't want to go out.
I would love if there was solutions for that type of stuff.
I'm not against solutions for that type of stuff.
I think there's ways to accomplish that.
Uh, like maybe make it that you can invite a maximum amount of people to remote rates
per day.
And you have to be a certain level of friends with them because like, there's a, there's
a, if you hadn't stolen my phone, I forgot about that until now.
I knew you would.
There's a, there's a, there's multiple apps.
There's a ton of different apps that you can use, uh, to host, uh, which I'll do sometimes
or, or to, to remote rate in to other people's things.
So the community element is just fully digital now.
Um, I don't know.
I, I, I, I understand the countering argument because you can play the game more and honestly
probably enjoy it more and played at a more competitive level and all these other types
of things and be much more immersed and in the Pokemon go experience if, uh, you're able
to remote rate roll more and you're able to catch more things from your house.
Like if your catch radius is bigger, so you can get more things from your house and all
this type of stuff.
I get that.
But the reason why I want to play the game personally on a personal level is because it
gets me outside and moving and more active and, and in the sun and all that type of stuff.
Um, my motivation is less about Pokemon.
It's more about personal health and fitness and wellbeing and stuff like that.
So I like the idea that I don't have to do those things alone and I have genuinely received
the response.
I've been like, Oh, I want to go do this thing.
Like, let's go to whatever park and walk around and try to do as much as we can.
I have genuinely received the response of like, I'm probably just going to hang out at home.
I'll, I'll remote rate it.
And it's like, Oh, that sucks.
I don't know, but to each their own.
Right.
Did we just spend half an hour on the first of the two merch messages we're supposed to
do right now?
You didn't even answer the full question.
Oh, what was the question?
What was the question?
And also, what do you think of Pal World?
Oh, I haven't played.
I've played it.
Um, I hope it's a major wake up call to Pokemon.
And that's honestly pretty much my only feeling about it.
Yeah.
It's the best Pokemon game that has released in many years.
It makes, uh, what was it called?
Legend of Arceus or something.
What was that game?
I didn't know.
Whatever it was even called.
Cause it didn't matter at all.
Um, it makes that game look like a joke.
Yeah.
Um, and hopefully Game Freak wakes up and does something with that IP cause it's incredibly
frustrating as like a person who does like Pokemon that the Pokemon games like, I don't
know.
Yeah.
And it's not like Nintendo is, I mean, Nintendo, Nintendo can be really stuffy and really kind
of set in their ways, but they can also be kind of edgy and unique and fun.
And so, yeah, I don't see why they couldn't do something a little more creative with the
Pokemon IP.
I mean, you look at like a Super Mario RPG or, um, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very different changing, evolving, improving.
Yeah.
How ironic that Pokemon wouldn't evolve.
Yeah.
For real though.
Uh, we should do a, uh, a super chat really quick here.
Someone didn't get the memo and sent a $200 super chat.
That is a perfect way for me to highlight why we don't do super chats and why we moved away
from using this dashboard entirely.
Check this out.
Uh, Hey, love the channel.
Um, Columbus, Ohio is getting new Intel chip factory.
Yeah.
That's super cool.
It's a kind of crazy that semiconductor manufacturing is like coming back to the States who to thunk
it.
Anywho, look at this.
I've had people call me out on this and say, no, Linus lied.
The dashboard is perfect.
No, Linus didn't lie.
The dashboard is not perfect.
That message.
Okay.
Hey, I can't apparently unselect it.
Um, anywho, uh, is not here.
It's not in.
What happens if you refresh the viewer activity?
No, it's, it's not here.
Check it out.
Doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop.
Not there.
And eventually things do fall off.
Yeah.
That will go away.
That's only still there because it's such a big donation.
That's the bug that made us develop merch messages in the first place.
How many years ago was that?
Two, three.
Somewhere around there.
Yeah.
It's been a while.
It's still not fixed.
How is that even possible?
Like, tell me something.
How complicated is the database that needs to store these text inputs, these text entries?
Like, is this, is this more complicated than an Excel sheet?
Help me out here.
Well, yeah.
No, but, no, but really.
On YouTube scale, yada, yada, yada, yada.
But it shouldn't be a big deal.
It has to store a username, an amount, a timestamp, and a flipping message.
It should not be a big deal for YouTube to do.
It doesn't even have to store image anything.
Like, it's, are you kidding me?
So anyway, that's why.
And as for why I don't turn them off, if people want badly enough to do things wrong,
then I say power to them.
Yeah.
All right, Dan.
Hit us with another merch message.
Sure.
Hi, Dan, Luke, and Linus, too, I guess.
What industry have you been most surprised by the amount or kinds of technology that they use?
Man, just about, just about.
I think I'm more surprised by the opposite.
Oh, ones that don't use technology?
Or that, like, oh, they're still running the same computer with serial cables from the, like, early 90s.
I remember finding out in, like, 2010 or something like that, that one of our competitors at NCIX still used fax to place POs.
I'm just like, what?
Japan.
They just emailed them, like, obviously.
I don't know if this is in the doc right now, but Japan is dealing with, like, the fact that a bunch of businesses are still sending the government, like, floppy disks.
Yeah, apparently they just changed the legislation that forced that, so maybe they can finally move past the floppy diskette after all these years, all these decades.
I will say, being in Japan, a lot of the more tactile things still being around is kind of nice.
More things tend to have physical buttons.
More things tend to have moving physical components involved that don't seem like they're going to break often.
Did I ever tell the story about getting the insurance and registration taken care of for my car?
Oh, yeah.
And how, like, not only did they require fax, like, like, like, like signed fax, like a signed fax, but they actually required the original form for, like, the business registration for the dealer to be mailed to the insurance broker in order to register the car because some, some ICBC is our insurance provider in BC.
They have a monopoly because that's legal for some reason.
If anyone was looking for a platform to get elected on in BC, it would be to abolish ICBC's monopoly, and then instant you're elected, just in case anyone's wondering.
Anyway, the point is, yeah, the fact that even a fax wasn't considered good enough.
How is it, how is it, how is anything more than an email required?
I just am sort of baffled by that.
And, and then, yeah, the fact that things have to be physically present for signatures always blows me away.
Hey, the, the, the superb owl is coming up really soon.
Sports tech is, is really cool.
Sports tech is really cool, especially in the NFL, actually.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, have you seen how, have you watched an NHL game recently?
Hockey game?
No.
I heard we're doing well, but no.
Remember how bad those digitally superimposed, uh, boards ads?
Yeah, they're insane now.
They're really good now.
I have seen that.
I have seen that.
They, like, move and stuff, and looks really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, but, but genuinely, uh, if you're, if you're into tech at all, even if you hate sports, if you look into the tech that the NFL uses, um, for, for NFL games, it's, it's really pretty wild.
That is actually an extremely tech forward, uh, uh, organization.
Yep.
Yeah.
You wouldn't know it from all the NFL, uh, co-branded merchandise.
We did that video where we bought sports tech.
It was just the cheapest, cheapest.
Absolutely.
Of AliExpress garbage with a silkscreened logo on it.
It was amazing.
Yeah.
But when it comes to their games and like how they do reffing and all this other kind of stuff, really impressive.
Yeah.
Hawkeye is super cool.
I might have some news about Hawkeye for you.
Oh, okay.
Well here, why don't I first explain what Hawkeye is?
It's what they use for tennis, badminton.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, to, to track the projectile.
And I didn't realize this, but it's not actually that the camera array is seeing where the ball landed or where the shuttle landed.
It's that it is calculating based on the initial trajectory where it will go.
So Hawkeye might not actually always be right because this is less true of a tennis ball probably where you could do a, like a NASA style to compute thing where you have Hawkeye try to figure it out and you have something that watches it and tries to figure it out.
I think they do have that.
Okay.
But it has to make a decision and it is the final call.
Hawkeye is?
Yeah.
If, cause Hawkeye only comes out, at least in badminton, I don't know how it works in tennis.
Uh, in badminton, Hawkeye only comes out in the event of a challenge.
So they have, uh, EROB18, Full Plane Chat.
I don't necessarily know how true this is, but I've worked with Hawkeye at a Grand Slam tennis tournament.
It's not 100%.
Yeah.
They use a lot of cameras.
I know they use a lot of cameras.
Uh, it's like in the dozens, if I recall correctly, like it's a flipping ton of them.
Uh, but aside from the cameras, my understanding and hey, feel free to correct me.
My understanding is that the cameras are more about feeding data into the computational engine
that decides where it landed because the, the point of contact is so much smaller than
the actual projectile.
Think about it for a tennis ball.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Only the part that mushes touched the court.
And if the edge of the ball that doesn't mush onto the ground is over the line, well,
that doesn't count.
So no camera, unless it was positioned at ground level is going to actually see how much that
ball compressed, or in the case of a shuttle, how much the, uh, the, how much the cork compressed
as it hit the ground.
So they cannot see where it landed.
They just have to have a pretty good idea of where it landed.
And in tennis, I could see this being less of a problem, but in badminton, the shuttle
is fragile.
So if you knock a feather off of it with a, with a really powerful smash or something
like that, its trajectory may not be as anticipated.
Um, man, sports projectiles are a fun rabbit hole.
Oh yeah.
Have you ever watched a baseball get made?
Yeah.
They apparently like tried to cost them down and make it, make it like machine sewn or
something.
And they were like, no, this doesn't work.
So they're hand sewn.
Like every single baseball that the players are just so casual, just like huck it to the
fans, which they should.
That's a part of the experience of the ball game.
It's like handcrafted.
What?
What's that thing about like badminton shuttles too, man, badminton shuttle manufacturing is
wild.
The fact that they only cost like, uh, about a dollar 50 wholesale U.S. is mind blowing
to me.
Yeah.
Baseball rubbing mud.
Anyway, uh, Dan, tell us about Hawkeye.
Yeah.
So we had some really good feedback after, uh, the badminton center video came out and some
people have been recommending a bunch of equipment, especially for the audio, like something like
Q-SYS came up a lot.
Um, and so I did some digging with Matt and apparently Q-SYS has a lot of partnerships
with Intel and Dell and then also with Sony.
And so apparently Sony also works intensely with Hawkeye.
And we may, this is sounding really expensive.
We may be able to get a Hawkeye system.
What?
Maybe.
We'll see.
There might be, there might be some major partnership stuff, but we'll, we'll have to see.
How much, Dan?
I don't know, but like full Sony, full Sony badminton center filled out.
Um...
What if you could have, if you could have a Hawkeye system?
Uh...
Okay.
Like just, it would be installed and it would be...
Permanent.
It would be yours.
Because generally you rent them just for, just for people in the audience.
Yeah, that's my understanding anyway.
Just for people in the audience.
Or we do a Hawkeye video and then...
I mean, I'm dumb.
We do a Hawkeye video, we explain the system.
I am fascinated by Hawkeye.
Not only is he down...
It is so cool.
That would be a sick video.
It would be an incredible video.
And then, you know, we put that in with the Q-SYS system because they've got some really amazing...
They're all based on like Dell servers.
What is Q-SYS?
Q-SYS is sort of like the same audio management system that we're planning to put in.
Okay, like Dante.
Yeah, but it works with Dante.
Like there's a controller box and all of them are kind of in the same kind of integration thing.
They've got some...
And then they're also partnered with Sony.
So, you know how we're going to have our TVs all over the lobby?
Yeah, yeah.
So, Q-SYS actually has a partnership with Sony because the Sony like professional display TVs...
Uh-huh.
...have a Q-SYS integration.
So, all of the media and everything can be controlled under the same banner and the same system.
Okay, so we'd really need to change like a lot of stuff.
Well, we'll see.
They haven't ordered it yet.
It might be worth it.
I was just planning to buy cheap TCLs and then replace them when they burn out.
Yeah.
Like that was my...
And put USB sticks in them with a looping video.
Like that was actually the plan.
It was minimum viable product.
Well, I mean all of it was designed under minimum viable product.
Well, except the facility could easily accommodate what Dan's talking about.
So, we...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Accommodate...
Yeah, sorry.
Haka.
So, basically what we did, just to give you guys a bit more context here, is we built
amazing bones.
Yeah.
And then we planned to put the cheapest possible flesh on them.
Yeah.
With the idea being that in the future we would...
You could upgrade or you could replace.
We are decked the fuck out when it comes to networking and power because that's how we roll.
Those things are annoying to run.
You run it once, you hopefully don't think about it again.
But, knowing that technology only gets cheaper, unless it's a GPU, we had planned to just
go bare minimum for the initial implementation and then to kind of see how it goes.
Which we might need.
But if we...
I mean, look, I'm...
I'm like I need to take my sweater off excited if we could have a Hawkeye.
I mean, yeah.
This is kind of what we're working on.
Because after that video came out, just everybody started jumping on me for that audio setup.
Oh, dude.
Like, it would just hurt.
But, of course, right?
Minimum viable product.
Leave Dan alone!
That's what we need to have...
Could you come and pick up our car, please?
Dan's plan made complete sense given the bounds that we gave him, to be very clear.
We could have told him you can spend as much money as you want and he could have come
up with a different system.
My client gave me exacting specifications for that.
Yeah.
Right?
So, leave Dan alone.
But, looking into Q-SYS, like, some good stuff did come out of this.
Okay.
Because we have people with Intel, and I think Matt's already reached out to a couple of
them, because all of them, like, Q-SYS has a heart and the head is Intel, and there's
Dell as well, and all of them know what we're doing, and they know Q-SYS, and then...
This is hilarious.
And then Sony, and then also Hawkeye.
We need to release preemptive videos for every future project.
This is why we never build anything reasonable.
Yeah.
Because the second we say that's our plan, either the community or our industry partners
jumps on us, they're like, what are you doing?
That could be 8% better.
So, for me, right?
So, the system I designed for your minimal vial per product, cheapest is it we can get
going.
Yeah.
It can do, like, I don't know, maybe 16 channels or something like that.
That seems fine.
The problem is that the Q-SYS things that have the Dell logo on the front of them, that
run on the Intel servers, are designed for airports.
So, they have 256 independent channels of Dante, and, like, a thousand different individual
paging zones.
And so, some people were asking, they're like, so how many paging zones do you need?
And I'm like, well, the spec got changed, so it's one.
Because we didn't want to buy a second microphone, so we're just going to do one.
And it's like, okay, well, I need, I need an airport set.
Wait, okay, you're making me.
No, it did, no, it did.
I know, but you're making me sound like such a cheap f***head.
No, but it's.
No, that was reasonable.
It was, okay.
It is extremely reasonable.
Should we tell them what my plan was, Dan?
Should we tell them what my plan was?
Sure, sure.
Okay, so, I'm known as the cheap guy.
Yeah.
So, I threw my plan into the ring, and it got upgraded, because my plan was rough.
If you don't want to know what my plan was.
Not a 610, a 5300.
It was like, yeah.
I don't remember fully, but it was like Raspberry Pis connected to speakers, and they're all
logged into Discord.
Oh, I've done a full house install.
I've done a house install like that.
You would just move your talking thing around a Discord, and then speak it to a mic.
It was really cheap, okay?
Move to Jim Channel.
It was very cheap.
And then, so we went from my garbage solution that would cost practically nothing.
Yeah.
And we looked at, because there was conversations early on.
We looked at traditional paging systems as well.
There was months of discussion, right?
Oh, yeah.
So, we went way above.
We went way below.
And then we found the pretty reasonable spot in the middle.
And now we have offers that might result in it being way above again.
In a facility that we plan to have a grand total of about two people on staff at any given
time, we're going to have to have a six-person IT team.
So, this is the problem.
I mean, that's why I went with that system initially, because that was one of your requirements.
It just has to work with no training and be really simple, right?
I love it.
Look at him.
He's freaking out.
What if you could keep it?
What if you could keep it, Linus?
What if you had a hot system at all times?
I mean, you might have to put a Sony sticker on something.
Badminton Center in Canada.
They also do, like, floor-to-ceiling nano-LED walls that are all also controlled.
Like, it's digital signage, right?
No, we're not doing that.
Why not?
No, those are, like, millions of dollars for an install.
We're not...
You could put a Sony banner on the outside.
I don't even...
I don't even want to...
The Sony Linus Badminton Smash Sony Champs Center.
I don't even want to owe them the fragrance of my soul.
Who can't read good and want to play badminton good, too.
Title 2 at that price.
No, no, that would not be reasonable.
But, no, full Hawkeye video would be actually incredible.
Because I don't think there's been any media on it, like, really at all.
There's a little bit, but there's...
It's kind of...
It's pretty dry, like, kind of explainer-type stuff.
Yeah.
And I don't think that I've seen anyone who's, like, an independent media
who has gotten a chance to benchmark it.
Like, I would be really interested to put Hawkeye up against...
Yeah.
Real eye.
And, like, an array of, like, you know, 25 cameras around a spot.
Oh.
That would be sick.
How good is Hawkeye?
I mean, this is the kind of thing that they're probably looking at going,
mmm.
We're not going to do that, are we?
That would be sick, though.
But that would be really interesting to me.
And then, of course, that also means that, you know, the cameras that are going to be
recording the courts, they would probably also be Sony.
Oh, well, that's good.
We have found that Sony one we really liked.
The only reason I was going to go Panasonic was because it was cheaper.
Well, they're also doing, like, some PTZ cameras, PTZ cameras.
Yeah.
Pan-tilt-zoom, for those not familiar.
So they are remotely controlled.
Yeah.
And a lot of it is in, like, maybe tracking and stuff as well.
But I don't think those are going to be super necessary.
But, you know, huge build-out.
Very exciting.
Yeah.
One bit of a downer.
I saw one comment where someone was like, hey, I work with BWF, which is the Badminton World
Federation or whatever.
One of the big mistakes we see a lot of centers making is not investing properly in the lighting
and certain other elements to make it BWF standard.
So we'd love to work with you guys to make it so you could, like, host international tournaments
and stuff.
I don't think that's feasible as much as I appreciate the outreach because, A, we don't
have any kind of, we don't have any kind of spectator capabilities, really.
Like, you could be up in the lounge, but we don't have parking to accommodate if, you know,
hundreds or thousands of people wanted to watch or whatever.
However, we could handle video, but, you know, part of a sporting event is the crowd, right?
At least to a degree.
Yeah, we do have a crowd section, though.
They can all be on treadmills.
Yeah, exactly.
And then number two is that we don't actually have the, we don't actually have a high enough
ceiling.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So I'm trying, I'm trying to find it right now.
But yeah, here it is.
Um, according to the, uh, the minimum ceiling height for a badminton court at Olympic Games,
Youth Olympic Games, grade one, grade two, and badminton BWF level is 39 feet.
Ours are, I want to say 32.
Three, okay.
Yeah, I think they're 32 or 34.
I can't remember exactly, which is for, uh, even a high level recreational player, more
than fine.
But those professional players, man, do they ever hit hard?
And there are certain instances.
I actually saw, I saw so many people in the comments on that video who just, they don't
know anything about badminton.
And I get it.
In North America, we, most people know absolutely nothing about the sport.
I didn't.
And one of the, one of the big comments that I saw from people was, what do you need all
that vertical height for, for badminton?
Well, let me tell you, uh, high level players, if their opponent plays a really tight shot over
the net where they're basically just coming in like this and just kind of popping it up.
So the shuttle tumbles and it just barely like kind of rolls over the net.
What they're going to do to, to counter that is they're going to come up and they're going
to hit it as high as humanly possible, way, way up and toward the back of the court.
And the more ceiling height you have, the more travel they can get toward the back of the
court.
And that's really important because the closer it is to the front, the more likely it is
that they are going to be eating that shuttle when their opponent smashes it down at them.
Um, so having it really, really having the ceilings really high is actually incredibly
important.
So we're not going to be able to host like a BWF sanctioned tournament or anything like
that.
That's not in our future.
There's, that's how high the ceiling is.
There's absolutely nothing we can do to change that.
It'll be a quality facility.
It'll have some of the highest ceilings in the lower mainland, but no BWF tournaments for
us.
Hawkeye'd be cool though.
Hawkeye would be sick.
Oh, Hawkeye's so bad.
Just for any tournament.
Even if it was just a video.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even if we had to tear it out, that's, that's fine.
I'd be down.
Yep.
Yep.
Uh, you got one more.
No, I'm just, it's sponsors.
You have to do sponsors now.
Oh yeah.
We better do sponsors.
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The folks that prepare the show topics must just be like, what even is this?
Why do we even bother?
They don't talk about them anyway.
This is the worst it has ever been.
I'd be upset.
I wouldn't be.
Let's do a few topics.
Let's do some topics.
Sure.
Please.
GM?
Sure.
Let's talk about GM.
General Motors.
Yeah.
They were bound to do something right eventually.
You know, broken clock is right at least twice a day.
It's like they got 10% on a Scantron, but they figured it out at the end.
General Motors has announced that they will be bringing back their line of plug-in hybrid EVs,
which they retired back in 2019 at the worst possible time with the end of the Chevy Volt.
The company has been under significant pressure from dealerships who have been struggling both
to meet consumer demand for hybrids and to sell battery-only EVs in the quantity that's
required by their carbon reduction quotas.
How many times have I said, the Volt was an amazing car, it was just ahead of its time,
and if they, their problem was the lack of demand, so their dealers have apparently figured
it out.
They could have sold, man, they could have sold this.
It's, it's such a cool car.
Yeah.
You only have to burn gas if you're going, plug-in hybrid just makes so much sense.
They're awesome.
For most people.
And they just couldn't figure out how to sell it.
Like, man, I'd read, anytime I want to just be angry, I'll go and read like Chevy,
Chevy Volt message board messages and stuff.
And people would be like, yeah, I worked at a dealership.
This guy brings his car in and he brings it in for a trade-in and I'm like, oh yeah,
the, the like lifetime fuel economy is really high.
He's like, yeah, I never plugged it in.
Like not once.
The, the f*** are you doing?
You could, you could do your daily commute on battery and anytime you need to go far,
you just put gas in it.
It's the best of both worlds.
You don't have to strip mine the entire country to get all the lithium because they just have
small batteries and you don't have to just like put gas in every week because you just
really like consuming gas.
Because the vast majority of most people's driving is a extremely predictable and be not
super long range, but you want your car to be able to do that sometimes.
So you don't have that anxiety solution is enormous batteries and they're not so heavy
because they don't have gigantic batteries.
So they actually end up being crazy fuel efficient.
And I get it.
They were pretty expensive to produce, but they managed to discontinue it right before
car prices went like this in general.
Anywho, other manufacturers also seem to be jumping on the plug-in hybrid electric vehicle
bandwagon.
As of now, there are 33 different PHEV models available in the U S six different automakers
have three or more PHEV models available.
And even Lamborghini launched a plug-in hybrid in 2023, though they don't plan to introduce
an EV until 2028.
Our discussion question here is, was EV adoption pushed too hard?
And did Elon Musk bamboozle all of us when really we should have switched to hydrogen and
called it a century?
I mean, I'm not going to try to speak to the whole hydrogen fuel cell thing.
I got to be honest with you guys.
It's not a technology that I understand well enough to comment on all the infrastructure
challenges that would have been involved in that.
But what I will say is that for most people at the time of the introduction of the Model
S, when the Chevy Volt was still in its early days, like the first gen Chevy Volt kind of
sucked.
And that's the reason that I didn't buy a Prius Prime back when I bought my secondhand
Chevy Volt was because the range wasn't good enough.
It was like 30 miles or something like that.
It's not enough.
The second gen Volt, though, could do, I think, something like 55.
I only know it in kilometers.
It'll go anywhere from 60, 70 to 100 kilometers, depending on the weather.
And once that thing launched, for most people, I think it made more sense than a full electric
vehicle.
Yeah, it was pretty expensive up front.
And I could see a lot of people looking at it going, oh, well, I might as well just go
full EV.
But that's the thing.
Depending on your usage, you could basically go full EV.
I did well over 80% of my driving in that car on battery.
And then anytime I needed to go really far, I could.
Yeah.
I know the sex appeal.
Not much.
I get it.
But you can make plug-in hybrid cars that have a lot.
You could.
They just didn't.
Yeah.
Actually, I think the Volt was an okay looking car.
I think it was fine.
I think it could have been.
I think there could have been things about it.
It had notable family car energy.
Oh, yeah.
But I don't think it was bad at all.
Definite dad energy.
Yeah.
The 2024 Prius, people have been drooling over this thing.
And it finally has decent range.
And it's just, Chevy is not there to participate in a market that they practically invented.
It's just, sorry, GM.
So Chevy, the sub-brand of GM, Chevy Volt, General Motors.
It's just mind-blowing to me how at every possible turn, GM can get electrification just 180 degrees from correct.
Yeah.
It's kind of frustrating.
Yeah.
Cough EV1 says Sifulus in floatplane chat.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
New Prius Prime looks pretty nice, actually.
Um, what's the, what's the range on this thing, though?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that's the, oh, man.
See, this is the other thing that people don't realize about these plug-in hybrids.
Is that not only do you drive on pure electric a lot of the time, but when you are burning gas, they are just wildly efficient.
Yeah.
4.44.6 city highway.
Like, what?
Yeah, that's wild.
That's awesome.
Ah, specifications here.
Here we go.
Okay.
Show me my, show me my all battery range, though.
Where, where are we at here?
Blah, blah, blah.
Horsepower?
Kilowatts?
Okay.
What is this measure?
Is horsepower a metric?
Uh, sorry.
Anyway, hold on.
One sec.
Like, what, what are you, what are you even talking about?
Any, okay.
Hold on.
Wait, why is this dimensions?
Why is horsepower a dimension?
That's actually really weird.
Um, I don't know, man.
I just.
Wow, that's odd.
Stuff happens, you know?
I just, I've decided to be less judgy.
Okay, I don't know.
Maybe someone knows.
Uh, that 4.4 is liters per hundred kilometers.
Just want to clarify that.
I'm on the Canadian site.
Kilowatts are metrics in engine power.
You know, I know, but how are horsepower and kilowatts the same?
Um, are they?
Are they though?
Kilowatts versus horsepower?
There's no way that a horsepower is exactly a thousand watts.
I don't believe that.
A power level of one horsepower is approximately equivalent to 746 watts or 0.746 kilowatts.
Okay, and there's the mechanical and hydraulic horsepower.
I don't even care anymore.
To convert from horsepower to watts simply multiply by 746.
746.
Nope, I'm over it.
To convert from watts to horsepower simply multiply by, uh, multiply, sorry, by 0.00134.
Yeah, so anyway, um, good job, Toyota.
Yeah.
Missing an absolutely critical spec from the page altogether, how far it can go on battery,
and then also, um.
Horsepower is a dimension.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Uh, what else are we talking about today?
Oh.
Oh.
Is it time?
Yeah, let's do it.
All right.
Um.
I, I'm, I've just been hearing you talk about this forever, so.
Oh, apparently turned off.
Well, Dan's supposed to do it, right?
No, no, I, no, no, I got this.
I just, I think I just need, I probably went to sleep.
It's a sleeping itty bitty apple.
Okay, so one thing I'm not going to be able to show you guys, or rather I could, but I
don't feel like going through the entire initialization process for this thing, but
it is shockingly difficult to sign up for Apple Arcade without an iPhone.
Make sure you don't blast your credit card, by the way.
Uh, yeah, yeah, that should be fine.
Okay.
What just happened?
Okay, sure.
That makes sense.
Um, so I have already, the, the issue is that getting your Apple ID signed in on this
thing pretty much requires an iPhone.
Uh, it was, it was, it was a real pain in the butt.
Oh, I hate this touch sensitive remote.
I always accidentally click it.
I feel like watching my grandparents operate anything technological.
Okay, so.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, handyman's bringing a good point.
Make sure it's updated.
Are there any updates that this device needs?
I don't know, but it looks like it says I can cancel any time.
So it looks like they've either changed it.
Um, so it should be under subscriptions, I guess.
Um, no, I forget, I forget where it's supposed to be.
You leaked your name.
Yeah, that's fine.
Uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, apps maybe.
Can't remember.
There's definitely, there's definitely somewhere it's supposed to be.
Uh, yeah, that's a game that I've played.
Uh, system.
Okay, well, it was not easy to find.
No, seriously, though, where is it supposed to be?
No, maybe, maybe, maybe it is still hiding.
Uh, okay, well, going into the Apple Arcade app is not the solution.
There's no, you just, you just scroll.
Um, there's no unsubscribe in here.
Uh, Dan, do you mind moving the, uh, topics piece of paper?
Oh, yeah, let's go to account.
Let's go to account.
Yeah, general account, I think.
Uh, or you're supposed to click your new, usernames and people in Flipchart are saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know, I know it's, it's supposed to be in here somewhere because I googled it and
I did manage to find it at some point.
Um, like, find where it was supposed to be.
Here we go, here we go, subscriptions.
Subscriptions, yeah, that's what I would do.
Okay.
What the actual f***?
Can you just sign in manually?
I have already signed in on this device.
To change the settings, sign in.
Yeah, that sounds like a very normal Apple thing, though.
Um, because they always make you re-sign in or re-pin into, like, everything when you
have an iPhone.
Unsubscribing from something when I'm signed in should be one click.
Exactly one click.
Now, hold on.
I don't think that's true for, like, anywhere because they ask you to confirm.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Uh, let me see if I can find this.
Uh, I don't, I actually don't know my iTunes password right now, and I think the only way
for me to see the screen is for me to share it with you.
So, it's possible that this has been fixed now, but.
I can, I can actually do a thing.
I found, no, no, it's fine.
I found this before the show.
So, back when I tried to do it, I came across this discussion thread on Apple.com, which showed
that someone else ran into the issue where there was no cancellation button for Apple
Arcade.
The button to cancel was physically not there.
This is from February 2022.
And I came across this post of someone that had the same issue because for me, it wasn't
there.
I clicked on this, I clicked on this, and this still has no reference whatsoever for how
to cancel a subscription from the Apple TV.
So, this is how I ended up being forced to install iTunes in order to get rid of the subscription.
There is absolutely no way from within a browser to cancel a subscription, which is absolutely
wild to me.
Within a browser?
I couldn't believe it.
Here.
I'll, uh, let me sign in.
Let me, uh, oh man, oh, this is not gonna be, this is not gonna be easy.
I'm gonna need a new, okay, maybe I'm not as prepped for this as I, uh, as I should be.
Should I do another topic?
Yeah, sure.
Why don't you do a topic while I, while I get this going?
Sure.
I'll do the, the one that we kind of leaked earlier, uh, Japanese government finally weans
itself off of floppy disks.
Since 2022, Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry has been pushing for the modernization
of over 1,900 submission protocols throughout the Japanese government, which still required
companies to, oh, whoa.
So, it wasn't that companies were necessarily just happened to be submitting this way.
It required companies to submit official documents in outdated and defunct media formats, like
mini disks, floppy disks, and CD-ROMs.
This year, many, but not all, of those requirements will be sunset, finally allowing companies to
move beyond 1.4 megabyte floppy disks, which stopped being sold by their last major manufacturer,
Sony, in 2011.
Globally, many industries still use floppy disks for legacy hardware, like, uh, medical
equipment and older planes.
Notably, the U.S. government only modernized its nuclear launch coordination system to stop
using floppy disks in 2019.
Um, discussion question is, why do institutions hold on to legacy media?
Why is it so hard to modernize?
I think a lot of it is, if it works, don't fix it, kind of mentality, which is honestly
often not the wrong kind of mentality.
Um, especially for things that were fine.
Um, I don't know.
Yeah.
Like, if all you need to submit is a document, um, and their system works that way, it's probably
okay.
I know there's, like, there's issues at scale, at, like, government scale as well, and you
only have a certain amount of budget.
Like, if your IT team only has a certain amount of budget, uh, they're going to have
to cut things, um, to be able to do other things, right?
Um, and if I'm, if I'm assuming that they're not misusing this budget, which is highly
questionable, but if I am assuming that they're not misusing this budget, they're going to
put it towards other things that might need it more, um, than something like that.
I don't know.
Also, there's, there's someone who brought up, isn't it really hard to hack into really
old tech, it's not necessarily true, uh, but it might not be as much of a target, um,
or, or people might not know, um, how to do it, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily harder.
Okay.
I've got one little update for you guys.
So if you go to the Apple support site, which is where I ended up and I clicked on TV and
I clicked on billing and subscriptions, this all seems pretty good, right?
Start your cancellation.
This is what greets you.
What is the fine text there?
If you don't have iTunes, download it for free.
Why the fuck do I need iTunes to cancel a subscription?
That is a little weird.
So download it.
Why?
Why?
No, really though.
I would actually like to know what the justification is for that.
I don't know.
I can't tell you.
I can't think of any reason why I should have to do that.
Isn't iTunes dead?
Well, clearly not.
Okay.
So people want me to go to my iCloud account.
Okay.
So hold on.
iCloud.
Let's, let's sign into iCloud.
Okay.
Here we go.
Let's do it.
Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's play.
Let's, let's have the experience.
Okay.
It is entirely possible that at some point I missed something.
Oh my God.
People are also pointing out a bunch of different things.
Yeah.
Purchasing things as a government entity is often very interesting.
Uh, cause you can't just like go out and buy the cheapest one.
You have to go through like all these processes and yada, yada,
it can end up costing a lot more than you would expect.
Um, I don't have my iPhone on me, so I guess I need to get a phone call now.
Yeah.
Pretty fantastic.
Why does it have a British accent at that scale?
Wouldn't time saved outweigh that it works mentality.
Uh, clearly it just did.
Or more probably in my opinion, it was enough companies complaining about it.
All right, here we go.
What's new on iCloud?
Don't care.
Okay.
I did not think to sign into iCloud.
I somehow got signed into, um, like the Apple support site before.
I couldn't even find a sign in today, but I did manage to find it at some point.
You should continue to be careful as document names and things are being shown.
Reminders and stuff.
This is all complete garbage.
Look at this.
This is from 2020 or something.
Yeah.
Don't worry about it.
Uh, okay.
Your iCloud plan.
We're getting into dangerous settings, sir.
I think you should off.
I'll be fine.
There's nothing on here, Luke.
I promise you.
Settings.
iCloud.
No.
Apple ID settings.
Sure.
Let's try Apple ID settings.
What are people saying?
Uh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Family sharing.
Uh, yeah.
The really bizarre one was that it wouldn't let me remove the credit card.
So I eventually did install iTunes and it wouldn't let me remove my credit card because I was
the, uh, the family owner.
Um, it looks like I can change that in iCloud.
It didn't tell me where to change that.
It just said you can't.
So I didn't know that.
Uh, role organizer.
How to change your family settings.
This is fricking hilarious.
Check this out.
Okay.
So I clicked on my role organizer.
You have access to these subscriptions, shared features, how to change it on an iPhone, iPad
or iPod touch.
Go here on a Mac.
Go here.
Don't have enough of our products.
Go yourself.
Seriously, where is my, where is my unsubscribe button here?
And look guys, my point wasn't necessarily that exactly the exact steps that I went through
or didn't go through.
My point was, this is a prime example of some of the most ludicrous dark patterns that I
have personally encountered.
It was far more difficult than it should be.
Okay.
So hold on a second.
Let's, uh, can anyone else, I'm, I'm open to suggestions here.
Can anyone else figure out where in my iCloud account I should go to remove?
There's some people that are really mad.
I'm trying to get the steps that they want you to do from them.
Sure.
No, no.
I, I know how to do it.
I did cancel my subscription guys.
I did figure it out, but it's not that easy.
Oh, but they, but, but it's right there on the Apple TV.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
We'll go back to the Apple TV now.
Oh, Lordy.
Okay.
Here we go.
What's going on with that?
Okay.
Uh, oh, hold on.
I have to do this.
Dan, am I able to see it, but not them?
Yeah.
Give me one step.
Okay.
I love the, I love the floating.
I love the floating merch message.
Cool.
All right.
I can see it.
Luke's going to do another quick topic, right?
Sure.
Yeah.
Apple launches the Vision Pro.
The Vision Pro released today after reportedly taking just over 200,000 pre-orders.
First impressions from customers have been broadly positive.
Some of the ones that I've talked to personally, this is not in the notes, have been very positive.
Uh, though the handful of reviews that went up on Wednesday were a bit more mixed.
That is very true.
The Vision Pro was praised for its crisp displays, minimal latency, pass-through mode, very impressive,
um, and hand-eye control interface.
We already knew that the Vision Pro was going to be on the heavier end of headsets, although
I'm going to add a note here, uh, still lighter than a number of other ones.
Um, but most reviewers noted that they really, uh, that they really noticed the weight, especially
after a few hours, um, due to how front heavy it is.
Yeah, the back is just the strap.
Um, a lot of other ones have either a more substantial strap or something weighing off
the back, so it helps counterbalance.
This one's weight is basically all out the front of your face.
Uh, impressions of the floating intangible keyboard range from clunky to usable.
Eyesight, the Vision Pro's digital representation of the user's eyes on the external display is
also apparently very uncanny looking in real life.
Yeah, it looks very different.
I think Marques made a big note of this.
It looks very, very different than, um, the, the examples in the, like the, I don't know
what you'd call it, product announcement, trailer videos, whatever.
Uh, Meta likewise announced today a new update adding playback support for Apple's stereoscopic
spatial video, which can be recorded on iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max to their own Quest headsets,
as well as support for using game pads with the Quest browser.
Um, I don't know who wrote this, but it says I Googled and while Vision Pro supports game
pads, it doesn't look like it supports the browser thing.
But anyway, okay, cool.
Um, discussion question.
Is this the most out there Apple product launch you can remember?
Man, you sure picked a meaty topic.
Hold on.
Let's finish this off.
All right.
There we go.
Oh my God.
I have new terms and conditions to accept.
Okay.
Yep.
I'm good.
Oh, where'd it go?
View terms.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Require password.
Okay.
Subscriptions.
Seriously.
I just, I just signed in.
Uh.
Round two.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Okay.
You know what?
It doesn't matter.
The point is it was there.
It was there.
So that's good.
Okay.
Tell me something, Luke.
In fairness to me, would you have found that?
What?
Would you have, would you have found where to manage your subscriptions?
Where was it?
It's under users and accounts.
And then you click on your name.
Uh.
You go down to subscriptions.
Where would you have looked to unsubscribe from Apple Arcade?
I would have gone into settings.
Would you have, or would you have gone to Apple Arcade?
Uh, that's a good point.
I would have done settings.
Probably.
Okay.
I immediately went to settings when I turned it on.
Because that would be where I would manage my account.
Sure.
Where did you subscribe to it?
Did you subscribe to it in the Apple Arcade app?
No.
I subscribed to it on my phone.
Okay.
Then I might go to settings.
Getting subscribed to it was a pain in the butt for some reason.
I forget why.
Okay.
Because I didn't have an iPhone on me.
Yeah.
I might go to settings then.
I would scroll down from here.
I wouldn't immediately go to users and accounts.
I would scroll down.
And I would look, look, look.
Okay.
Then I would probably go to users and accounts.
Yeah.
I would want subscriptions in that menu immediately.
I don't know that I would click on my user now.
Absolutely not.
To be honest.
No, I would.
I would get here and then I'd probably go, what?
And then go away.
I must have missed something.
And I think that's exactly what I did too.
This doesn't look right.
Yeah.
And then leave.
And then what?
You want to go into Game Center now?
Now that you figured out that you need to click on your name?
So you go down to subscriptions.
Okay.
Is Game Center the thing that you were subscribed to?
No.
Oh, okay.
I don't remember what Game Center is.
It's something else entirely.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
It's like you can friend people and you can play mobile games together or something like
that.
I can't remember exactly what it does or ever did.
So, in conclusion, I didn't find it.
It either moved or it was always there or it was a regional difference or it wasn't.
And outside of that, the resources that I could find from Apple's own website did not
direct me to a meaningful way to get it canceled.
So, here was another person who was trying to do the same thing that I was and who was
directed to this help article, which included no information about how to do it on an Apple
TV.
In order to do it on a Windows computer, I needed to use iTunes.
And in order to access and in order to remove my credit card, I needed to change my family
sharing, which it didn't direct me how to do.
And then now I know how to do.
I actually had no idea that you have to do that by signing into iCloud, which is great.
I would never have done that.
Now I know that.
So, I retract what I said about it not being there.
I maintain what I said about it not immersed in the Apple ecosystem.
Just to balance the tables out, should you show your Windows search thing?
No, that doesn't matter.
Okay.
I was just memeing with you guys.
It was pretty fun.
I searched for sleep because I just reformatted my desktop.
Just to make it clear that I hate Windows just as much as I hate anything that Apple does, I searched for sleep in the start menu because I wanted to tell my computer not to go to sleep because sometimes I need to remote into my workstation.
I just reformatted.
I can show on my laptop.
Yeah.
Oh, if you have it up, then by all means, go ahead and share it.
No, so this isn't the exact same.
So, if I search it on my laptop, it shows view recent sleep time and then sleep country Canada.
In his example, view recent sleep time was not there.
It was just sleep country Canada.
So, if he typed sleep and then quickly pressed enter, it would have just, it would have just, like, Googled sleep country Canada, which is hilarious.
If I send this to you, Dan, can you put it on screen?
Yes, I should be able to.
Okay.
How do I send it to you in a convenient way?
Oh, okay.
Then you already have it because it's in the topic approval chat.
Oh, no, you're not in the topic approval chat.
Okay.
All right.
I will send this to you.
This is actually pretty funny.
Wancho crew?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll send it to Wancho crew.
Sleep country Canada.
Canada?
Yeah.
You should probably buy a mattress somewhere else.
I did.
Nice.
If you live up here, that's a jingle, you know.
Just how it works.
Well, I think they have the same jingle in the U.S.
Oh.
But it was, like, sleep country USA.
And I heard it once when I was, like, south of the border.
That seems not fair.
I was like, what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uncanny Valley.
Yeah, it feels gross.
I don't like that.
Yeah, it's our jingle.
Image.
Button.
File not found.
I didn't attach a file.
Do you know what I'm doing?
I don't know.
In fairness to Apple, it was, like, the middle of the night when I was trying to do this, too.
And I think that a lot of my frustration was already teed up from trying to get signed into that bloody thing without an iPhone, which was a really frustrating experience as well.
In iTunes, there's no way to manage your family group, by the way.
So that was really annoying.
I just, it was a more frustrating experience than, in my opinion, it should be.
I don't think subscriptions should be buried anywhere.
I think they should be super easy to find.
Speaking of which, I need to cancel my subscription.
Because you just started with it.
Yeah, because I just started it again.
I've got the picture ready.
I've played Fantasian exactly the number of times I need to play it, which is .99 times.
I only haven't finished the second, the third phase of the final boss.
You played it .99 times?
Yeah.
Oh, like played it through.
Yeah.
Oh.
I'm just going to fade it in.
There you go.
There you go.
That is the result for sleep.
What?
On my brand new Windows install.
It tries to auto-correct it to Sleep Country Canada, and it best matches to Sleep Country Canada.
That's absurd.
I hate current year.
That's absurd.
Settings, nightlight?
Really?
That's the setting?
They got rid of this computer, so you can't search this computer.
Why is it nested?
Why is that nested, Dan?
I don't know.
I hate it.
How is this this bad?
I wish I could pay more for no ads.
There should be no ads in Windows.
I mean, especially because we do pay for it.
Yeah.
This is unbelievable.
The fact that everyone knows what a complete useless meme Windows Search is, and the fact
that it doesn't improve indicates that this is Microsoft's desired behavior for it.
Yeah.
To me.
And there's a whole, there's so many settings in Windows dedicated to sleep.
Yeah.
Like, so many.
Like, how about sleep?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now I'm angry.
That's a bug.
Check Windows admin.
I don't believe you.
I've seen it on basically every Windows machine I've touched in the last few years.
It's, if it's a bug, it's one that exists on purpose at this point.
I'm sorry.
I'm not even shopping for a mattress.
Get better intel.
All right.
Yeah.
Advertise better, nerds.
All right.
Apple Vision Pro.
I did the intro.
I want to try it.
I haven't, I haven't gotten a chance to yet.
The thing is, Apple only seeds to media that they get along with, which I, you know, is
a thing, um, and being in Canada and not being one of the first people to click the button,
um, our unit isn't arriving until I think Monday.
So I haven't tried it yet.
I, the way that, the way that it looks to me from the outside, I've actually tried not
to find out too much.
Like I just, sometimes I can't help it and I'll click an article and I'll read some of
it or I just, yeah, mostly that, um, or I did, I did watch the one Apple, uh, promotional
video where she's like packing for a trip or something like that.
And she's wearing a Vision Pro headset for some reason.
Uh, so I have been exposed to some stuff, but I've been trying to keep my reactions as
raw as possible.
Cause we're going to shoot a short circuit on Monday when it comes in.
And then after that, my main mission, I think is going to be to figure out.
How to use it as a non Apple user.
I've certainly had my frustrations using the Apple products that I do daily drive.
I mean, I've talked about this one before, but you know, there's absolutely no way to
update the firmware on AirPods without an iPhone, right?
No, you cannot.
That's sick.
Not through iTunes, not through iCloud, this one I'm sure about, you simply can't.
Um, and, and there's also features that are extremely inconvenient or impossible to change
depending on how, uh, like I think there's third party apps that have managed to, uh, you
know, change what the long press does and stuff like that.
Oh, except if you have an iPad.
Oh, I'm sorry.
A big iPhone will also solve the problem for you.
Um, apparently you better have an iPhone or you won't be able to use the vision pro properly.
I think I have a 13 pro at home somewhere.
I will have to check unless, unless I have it with me.
Um, no, I don't have it.
I used to be a big, like always two phones guy.
Like I'd have one in my side pocket, one in my back pocket.
And over the years, I found that whether I'm on an iPhone or whether I'm on an Android phone,
I just don't really need it anymore.
Either of them can kind of do everything.
And people who have this kind of super intense brand loyalty one way or the other, I think
they just haven't, I think they just haven't tried the other in a while.
So the one way or the other is an important point because run, John just said in full plane
chat, I can't update my Samsung earbuds on my iPhone either.
Really?
But what about on a computer?
I don't know.
You can only do it on an Android device.
That's, that's, they didn't say that.
They didn't say that.
Oh, don't, don't hamburger this hot dog.
Okay.
Cause that would be stupid.
They said they can't on an iPhone.
Yeah.
They just said no iPhone.
Sheesh.
Can you, can you do AirPods on a PC or Android?
No, no, you can't.
Um, we'll see if there is, you can, but you have to install Samsung's iTunes.
Okay.
No, that's a joke.
Very funny.
You guys.
Yeah.
You have to use their where app.
A handyman said, well, that is equally stupid and I hate it just as much.
Yeah.
All right.
What else we got?
Uh, did we talk enough about vision pro?
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to figure out what it's for.
It's obviously not for gaming.
I think it's monitor replacement.
Sure.
So it's a $3,500 monitor.
It's a $3,500 monitor that you could have in scenarios, but you can't have a monitor.
Yeah.
I think is, is it.
I mean, one of the ideas I had for the video was just yeeting the monitor off my desk at
work and only using the vision pro as a monitor.
I think you should use it in more scenarios than that.
I think you should have, uh, like Yvonne drive the car and you work on your laptop.
I thought you were going to say, and where are the vision pro?
No.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, based on their low latency pass through, it feels like that might be possible.
Um, but I'm not suggesting that you do it.
Cool.
That might also be literally illegal.
I would think so.
I would hope so, to be honest.
Um, but, uh, yeah, no, uh, if you're going on a trip sometime, wear it on a plane and hat
set up a bunch of monitors instead of your laptop and see if it's interestingly productive.
Um, and I can only use it with a Mac book.
Is that right?
Is that true?
Well, I've, I'm already, I'm already preparing myself to go back to the Mac book.
Return of the Mac.
One second.
I mean, Mac books are kind of killing it right now.
Oh, I mean, yeah, no, no question.
It's just, yeah.
And you know, what's really, really interesting.
I think if you were to plot the amount of time that it takes me to go from completely
fresh install first time I've seen the desktop to my computer is fully set up.
And I can do everything I need on it.
It would look like this.
When I, that fresh format, I was ready to do basic things on it in about four minutes.
Oh.
And I was, and I'm, and I'm ready to do pretty much anything.
And I'm talking drivers are installed.
So, so not that.
And then beyond that, probably about another 10 minutes and I can do 98% of what I need
to do on it.
And there's, there's things that I would set up on my personal machine, uh, or there's
tinkery things that obviously I haven't bothered with.
Like, uh, I, okay.
I want to play around with NVIDIA's AI HDR conversion tomfoolery.
And yeah, sure.
That's the kind of thing that obviously takes a little bit longer to get everything dialed
in exactly how you like it.
But that computer was completely usable for me to do my job in like 15 minutes.
Yeah.
And that's assuming that the writing team keeps using the office suite instead of switching
over to Google docs, which is something that we may do in the near future.
So having just gone through that experience, I'm kind of sitting here going, okay, uh, what
exactly would prevent me from using a Mac book then?
Cause almost all of it is either cloud-based or something that I could easily install on
a Mac.
It's not like teams doesn't exist for Mac.
Yeah.
It seems makes me want to throw it through a wall anyway.
So maybe I should do the Apple challenge again.
Maybe, maybe I should just switch.
Maybe.
Why am I as much as I don't want to, I know it would be fine for me.
I work almost exclusively in browsers.
Why would it matter for me?
Well, you'd go to do a thing and you'd be like, why can't I do this thing?
It'll happen.
I'm sure it'll happen for work though.
Honestly, like one.
One of the ones that drove me crazy last time was how poorly it handles mapped network
drives.
It's just a nightmare.
So stupid.
Well, why don't you get a Thunderbolt?
Why don't you get Thunderbolt?
Like, no.
Thunderbolt is a stupid solution for, uh, for that.
Like direct attached storage in general is just a stupid solution.
I'm sorry.
I'm completely over it.
Um, apparently by the way, someone did drive with the Apple vision pro and did get pulled
over and got arrested.
Well, pulled over at least.
Why does that not surprise me?
That's fun.
Um, I'm being told that you can only do one monitor replacement with it.
Um, I know I saw people with more than that of screen.
So maybe you can do one monitor replacement and then other apps around it.
Um, why on earth would they care how many monitors you replace with it?
I guess it would have, it would come down to how macOS handles display management or something.
I have no clue.
Which was awful last time I used it, by the way.
It was just like terrible.
Just clone window, just clone Aerosnap.
I'm talking specifically for the laptop usage, by the way.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
When I'm saying I, I'm sure I'd be fine on a Mac book.
I'm saying just to replace the laptop that I have.
Oh, I see.
I would still need the desktop.
A hundred percent.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I understand.
Yeah.
I would be going just, I use a Mac book now.
Yeah.
See, that's, that's a little bit more drastic.
If I was just replacing my laptop, genuinely, I think it would be completely fine.
Um, yeah.
Okay.
So apps can be the other ones.
You can only screen share one Mac book screen and, uh, that's at 1440 P apparently.
That's what, that's what Chad's saying.
I mean, that seems, which I believe.
Yeah.
And Matt, who was doing monitor replacement, uh, Matt from the labs web development team
who was doing monitor replacement, um, sometime last week with a quest had three monitors on
the quest.
So it is kind of a weird limitation.
And I wonder if you're right.
I wonder if it's something to do with Mac OS.
I don't know.
No idea.
I mean, these are all things that I guess I'm going to get to discover because the main
question, right?
Because everyone in their dog who's, oh, it's based on the display.
Yeah.
See, I, I don't know.
Don't, don't, don't take the things that I'm reading from Chad is like a hundred percent
fact.
It's just interesting to discuss.
Everyone in their dog who's Mac friendly has already looked at this thing.
So if we're going to make a video about it, it has to be from the angle of, okay, but
hold on a second.
What if you're more like me?
Should this be interesting to you at all?
Or should you be just be waiting for a second or third generation clone from a PC company
that kind of works or something?
Yeah.
And I think the answer is going to be, you don't need to care about this right now, unless
you're willing to switch into the ecosystem.
So then my question becomes, is it worth it?
They're asking for a pretty big outlay.
Yeah.
I mean, it's that being said, I think they're going to have a bunch of tech people that are
going to be happy to jump into it.
Wasn't Google last like a thousand dollars, something like that.
I forget what Google glass, uh, Google glass announcement price.
I find people have a very intriguing amount of money whenever there's something interesting
to buy.
Yeah.
It was a thousand dollars.
And do you remember how many people were wearing Google glass at CES that year?
Everywhere.
Frickin everywhere.
And I just, I couldn't believe it.
I was like, I bought one of these because it's my job.
I used it for a while and was like, okay, I have used it now.
It's pretty useless.
And now it goes in a pile.
And how are you people still wearing these?
I don't understand this.
And then by the following year, all of them were gone.
I don't.
S'more in chat is saying a thousand dollars is way different than $3,500.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Sure.
It's still, that's not my point.
It's, it's also, I would say it's still in a range that like to spend that much money
on something very fresh experimental stuff like that.
That is wild.
Is wild.
It's asking a lot.
Both of those amounts are in the, that's wild category.
Are they the same?
No, not at all.
No.
But like.
Man, Google glass was only five years ago.
Do you have over a thousand dollars of throw it away, this might be complete trash spending
money?
Not even, it might be complete trash.
I don't think it's going to be trash, but it might be, sits in the box and doesn't get
used.
Yeah.
The battery, man, the battery life is a big concern for me.
I get that.
I get that.
You can plug the pack in.
Sure.
Non-removable cable on the pack.
Not true.
No, it's removable.
Yeah.
Is it?
It turns out it's like a jumbo lightning connector or something.
Well, that's so sick.
It's kind of like the non-removable cable on that iMac that we.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Live on the WAN show.
As far as my understanding goes, you just stick a thing in a hole and it pops out.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
I'm actually really happy about that.
That makes me feel better about the world.
Yeah.
It is lightning.
I mean, it also just didn't need to be lightning at all.
But hey, whatever.
It's lightning.
Sure.
So that's something.
Yeah.
Five years ago was definitely not correct.
Oh, yeah.
No, that wasn't five years ago.
Hold on a second.
Okay.
What is this?
Why am I?
Was it longer than that?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Eight years ago?
Sorry.
This is Enterprise Edition 2 announced for $9.99 in 2019.
Hold on, hold on.
Enterprise Edition.
Google Glass.
Here we go.
It was $1,500 in 2013.
Yeah, it was 10 years ago.
Yep.
Here you go.
Sorry about that, guys.
I'm excited for the display.
Yeah.
It's supposed to be amazing.
Out of everything I care about, I think that's the one I care about most.
Because that means progress for all the headsets.
And if I could just use my Windows computer with that display, that would kind of be my ideal while I wait for it.
And that would also be a way that I could kind of justify it as well.
Because that, no, no, even then, like, that's a, boy, is that ever an expensive monitor.
I do think a lot of traveling tech people will find a legitimate way to justify it.
Yeah, it's going to be tough, man.
Dude, it's going to be tough at work, too, though.
Even just for privacy reasons.
I work collaboratively with people a lot.
Yeah, you do.
What am I going to?
No, I know.
Well, yeah, but I'm reviewing it.
So I'm trying to think, like, what the heck am I going to use this thing for?
I don't think it's for you, to be completely honest.
I mean, I want to like it, actually.
Yeah.
I'm excited about it.
But I don't think this particular device is going to be great for you.
That being said, I do think you'd be able to see if it had value for other people.
I don't think you're, like, not an applicable person to review it, to be clear.
I just don't think it's...
Like, okay, here's one thing.
I'm not going to get any calls on FaceTime.
I don't know anybody with an iPhone.
Yeah.
That's one of the reasons why it wouldn't be for you.
But...
Well, yeah, but so how am I even going to applicable anything?
Like, I just...
But just sit in a chair and pretend you're on a plane.
I'm obviously...
Yeah, I mean...
Yeah, okay, obviously, but...
Like, you can do it.
Yeah, I know I can...
I know I can...
You're going to do it.
I know I can sit in a chair.
Good boy.
Sit.
Do you want a Welch's?
Do you want a Welch's?
You've got a great one.
All right.
All right.
No, but like, yeah, I think it's...
The price tag is a big holdback for the vast majority of people, right?
Yeah.
It's going to be a huge issue.
We were just talking about the price of GPUs earlier, a VR headset for $3,500.
I mean, we were balking at VR headsets that were less than 1,000, not that many years ago.
Yeah.
Now it's $3,500.
Yeah, it's obviously crazy.
I think there's going to be a market of people that are interested in it.
I literally know people that have already bought it.
But yeah.
Oh, no, no, not me.
I thought you were saying you do too.
And then I realized that you were saying you bought it.
No, I don't know anybody.
But I know other people as well.
Yeah.
Multiple, actually.
And pretty much all of them are unanimously saying monitor replacement, not at my desk.
So they're not trying to replace their currently existing multi-monitor setup.
But they are trying to make it so that.
That's a really extravagant, I'm writing my novel in the Starbucks and I want to do it like next gen.
Yep.
Accessory.
Absolutely.
It's going to have to get a lot more useful than that.
Yeah.
For the vast majority of people.
Yeah.
So it's a dead kit then.
But they had 200,000 pre-orders and they're going to sell a bunch more.
I guarantee it.
Apple's a hell of a thing.
Honestly, straight up, if Meta released the exact same headset at the exact same quality.
People would tell them they were idiots.
Yeah.
But then, hey, maybe their stock would go.
Maybe.
Bazonkers like it did today or yesterday or something like that.
It went.
Really?
I think developers.
Yeah.
Meta is going like wild.
Like, well, if it was Windows-based, I think developers would hop on that within an hour.
What happened?
I forget.
This is the five-day.
This is the five-day.
It's their year of efficiency or whatever.
I don't know.
Who knows?
It's the stock market, dude.
20%.
Even at Biden.
Bidenomics.
Bidenomics.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Cool.
Earnings, apparently.
They declared a dividend.
Oh, they declared a dividend on the stock.
So, owning it means you, like, get money instead of just you only get money when you sell.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
Okay.
Cool.
What else have we got here?
Do you want to talk about the AI poisoning tool?
Yeah.
I thought this was something different until I read it in the doc, and now I'm, like, way more interested.
I didn't bother reading into this.
I'm going to run to the washroom while you go through it, because I've already read it.
Sure.
I didn't bother read into this earlier in the week, because I assumed it was, like, is it on that one?
Yeah.
I assumed that it was just, like, you know, a way to jailbreak AIs that we've had forever, and people just bought it for whatever reason.
But that's not it.
That's not it at all.
It is way cooler than that.
A team at the University of Chicago released their new free AI poisoning tool called Nightshade.
It was downloaded at least 250,000 times in the first five days.
Nightshade is intended to disrupt art generation models that scrape art without permission by identifying the subject of the image,
then applying a tag that subtly alters the image at the pixel level so other AI programs see something totally different than what's actually there.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Gradually, this will poison the AI's training data by making it misclassify the original images and therefore generate confused, muddled, hallucinated images.
The changes Nightshade makes are reportedly more robust than watermarks, as the effect remains even when the image is screenshotted, cropped, compressed, or even filtered.
The same team has previously released a separate program called Glaze, intended to confuse AI training algorithms so they interpret the image as having a completely different style than it actually does.
They recommend using both together for the best effect.
There's a discussion question, which I guess is Dan and I now.
Can we expect the notion of copyright to change in the AI era and how?
Because, you know, everything is eventually made using tools that involve some kind of AI trained on some other type of copyrighted material, etc., etc., etc.
Yeah, I don't know.
All I know is I think this is super cool.
I find the tool war of AI to be an extremely interesting thing.
I wish I had read into this more so before the show because I think it's super interesting and I will do so.
I will dive further into it after the show.
There is a really cool page, just nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu slash whatis.html.
I might as well do the whole thing.
And they have a whole write-up talking about it.
You should check that out if you are interested.
Super cool.
I love this kind of stuff.
Fantastic.
I like that if you don't want your stuff shared, you have some tools in order to, you know, make it worse, which is great.
Very good.
Is that Miss Vicky's?
Yeah.
We have Miss Vicky's now?
Yeah, I've had Miss Vicky's for ages.
Oh, I don't usually look at the snacks.
That's cool, though.
Miss Vicky's are great chips.
Yeah, they're good chips.
This is not an ad for Miss Vicky's.
Nope, not even a little.
Nope.
They'll kill you.
Yeah.
So if it was an ad, they wouldn't let me say that.
Yeah.
It's amazing how many people think, like, we have secret sponsorships and stuff that are not disclosed.
Really?
When we will say stuff that's just like, clearly you don't know anything about working with sponsors.
There's absolutely no way any brand would have you say anything like that in a video that they sponsored.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Some actually somewhat interesting AI news this week.
Google, the Bard chatbot, can now use Google's own Imagen 2 model to generate images.
Congratulations, you're slowly feature matching other things.
Generative AI chat is being added to Google Maps.
Awesome.
That's great.
Now it's probably going to direct me to the wrong place some percentage of the time because of hallucinations.
I don't want that at all.
Amazon announced Rufus, a chatbot.
Oh, rip, Rufus USB.
Announced Rufus, a chatbot in beta that will help customers shop on the platform.
Maybe you'll be able to find TVs more easily.
And Apple, according to Tim Cook, Apple is putting a tremendous amount of time and effort into AI and plans to share more details later this year.
That's okay.
Perhaps something related to their published paper about getting LLMs running locally on iPhones.
That would actually be cool.
That would actually be sweet.
That would make buying an iPhone significantly more intriguing.
Apple's been putting neural processing into their Apple Silicon, or do they call iPhone Silicon Apple Silicon?
I can't remember.
But anyway, into their A-Series chips for quite some time now.
So I see no reason why they couldn't do this.
Having a local LLM on there would be fantastic because local things is good.
Yeah, because then maybe Siri would be useful.
Yeah, maybe.
That's true.
Yeah, that would be nice.
I mean, they could have done that without it being local, though, and then it would be annoying and suck.
Universal Music Group pulls music off of TikTok.
And then Spec Ops The Line was pulled off Steam.
It's actually the second one that's a little more interesting to me.
But a bunch of TikToks got muted because licensing negotiations broke down between UMG and TikTok this week.
Imagine TikTok caring about that.
I must have missed.
I blinked and TikTok went from just, yeah, we just use whatever music, whatever.
We don't care.
We're from China and we don't care at all to now they mute licensed music.
Interesting.
Anyway, the critically acclaimed 2012 game Spec Ops The Line was suddenly delisted from digital storefronts earlier this week.
In response to a question from The Verge, 2K stated that the removal was due to the expiration of multiple partnership licenses,
which The Verge took as a reference to copyrighted music on the game's soundtrack.
So it's been 10 years.
12?
That's a weird expiry.
It is a weird one.
Anyway, the game's director, Corey Davis, called the removal devastating personally, both for him and the rest of the creative team.
And he likewise stated that this is not the end for Spec Ops The Line, but what future the game might have is currently unclear.
These kinds of licensing issues have come up before.
Wasn't there a GTA game that had a bunch of licensed music in it that had to be changed at some point?
Not sure.
I'm not sure if I, I'm not sure if I, I'm going to be able to remember exactly what it was, but I know we've definitely seen stuff like that before.
That's Corey Balrog.
Uh, GTA 4 apparently.
Yeah.
Vice City.
Oh, okay.
Apparently there is GTA 4 Vice City.
Fun fact.
I haven't actually played through a GTA game at all.
I played a bunch of one that came out for Android.
I forget which one it was.
It was three maybe, uh, on my Nvidia Shield, but I didn't beat it.
I think I beat five.
Cancel them boys.
Yeah, I know.
But that would have happened like almost 10 years ago.
So, I don't know.
It's been too long to really remember.
Uh, I didn't beat any ones other than five, I don't think.
But I haven't played any GTA game in a hot minute, so I'm not sure.
Mafia, I actually liked the Mafia games more.
Yeah, that's on my list of, I need to get around to this at some point.
Because Mafia 2 Remastered came out a little while ago and was apparently just flipping awesome.
Yeah, I liked Mafia 2.
Um, finally, Edge got caught stealing Chrome tabs.
Yeah, what is this?
An Edge feature that allows it to import data from other browsers has gotten more aggressive,
much to the surprise of several users, including Tom Warren from The Verge,
who found that after their most recent Windows update, Edge opened automatically with all the tabs from their default browser, Chrome.
One user had even uninstalled Edge and deleted all of its app data,
only to have it open with all his Chrome tabs imported after an update.
So that's bad.
Uh, time for WAN Show After Dark.
Have you noticed Teams is just like ignoring default browser stuff?
Yes, I have.
That's over the last couple of weeks, I guess, right?
I think it, I think it might have gained a setting where you can now set Teams' default browser to something that isn't Edge.
But when it first happened, I don't think that was possible, which is awesome.
Awesome.
And then people were having, we're, we're, we're slowly, there's going to be notes in the Monday morning meeting about this, uh, for people that work at the company.
But we're slowly working on a migration and it will be announced as a full migration on Monday to everyone in the company using Teams for meetings instead of Google Meet through Calendar.
And in doing that, we've been finding a lot of problems with Teams meetings.
Teams has also been especially having trouble the last week or so, I think it is.
So maybe that's it and maybe it'll get better.
Let's hope.
Okay.
I wouldn't count on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, After Dark.
Sure.
Let's see what we got.
Hi, LLD.
You've spoken of the difficulties running video hosting services.
Think there's a wisdom to be gleaned from the older sites?
For example, Newgrounds, on track to 30 years of hosting user content.
Actually, we were having a fun conversation right before the show started about Twitch and the no good, very bad week that they've had.
Pokimane announced that she's no longer exclusive.
She will stream wherever she pleases.
And, you know, obviously, Pokimane's not the biggest creator on the platform, but she's certainly a prominent one.
And she's just one of many prominent creators who have left or multi-streamed now to platforms such as YouTube and Kick.
And, you know, part of the conversation around, you know, how could they let Pokimane go or whatever is probably going to end up coming around to money.
And Luke came across a calculator that I think you guys might find very interesting.
Can I switch over to your screen?
Yeah.
So the calculation that I have on screen is roughly for this show on public channels.
So I think there was like 2,000 and something on Twitch.
There was like almost 13,000 or something on YouTube.
And then I threw in 20 for good measure because Facebook exists.
And I did the standard plan because I don't know, whatever.
There isn't a big difference between standard and basic.
So I did standard and then 1080p because that's what we're streaming in.
I'm saying the WAN show is roughly four hours.
We have that many viewers.
And this is average viewers.
So I did 100% of the stream because I don't have the total amount of viewers in order to give a lower percentage.
So we did 100% of the stream.
And yeah, 8,000 US dollars.
Now, this isn't some number that Luke pulled out of his butt.
No, this is from Amazon's actual cost estimator.
This is Amazon IVS cost estimator.
This is the thing that Kik uses, for example.
And Twitch uses.
And Twitch, yeah, effectively, yeah.
This is someone mentioned pirate software.
Yeah, I'd seen this before, but I saw his thing on this.
And that reminded me of this site, which is why I showed Linus.
He's pirate software is really cool.
But yeah, then I looked over here and was like, how many people are alive right now on these different websites?
So let's go 3,262 channels.
Yeah, let's play a game.
Let's play a game.
3,262 channels.
Oh, that's a big number.
And let's go viewers right now.
What's their average peak?
Yeah, let's kind of eyeball this.
Let's eyeball this.
Grab halfway up a slope.
They look like halfway up a slope is around here, actually.
Okay.
Uh, maybe even higher.
So what's that?
This is fairly low, as far as I can tell, for average.
Let's say 180,000.
Sure.
And then...
Okay, and then let's...
That's all...
Yeah, that's all the time.
But that's not four hours.
That's all day.
Ah, yes.
Now...
Obviously, they would have volume discounts.
Probably very significant ones.
Obviously, this is marked up.
This is not Amazon's raw cost to run Twitch.
Oh, and Twitch has, I mean, way higher numbers.
But let's have a look at what Twitch's numbers look like.
2.2 million viewers and 140,000 channels.
Do we even want to input this?
This number obviously means nothing, just to be very clear.
It's just fun.
Don't take...
Don't take this too seriously.
Um, but it's entertaining to throw it in the calculator anyways.
Um, woo!
For a day!
Um, obviously this is not representative for like a billion different reasons.
So again, don't run too hard.
For 727 billion different reasons.
But...
It obviously doesn't cost that much.
But the point is that it doesn't make sense to give gigantic payouts to streamers to stream
on your platform when...
Streaming is expensive.
When those are the only ones that you're making money on anyway.
Um, and you are...
You've basically been operating at a loss from the moment you acquired this company until now
with absolutely no end in sight for it operating at a loss.
Uh, the only reason Kik exists at all is that it's just gambling money.
Yeah.
So...
Yeah, and then you throw like, uh, Amazon Prime free subscriptions into the pile as well.
Like, dang.
So a lot of people have asked us, hey, Floatplane, why are you guys like slacking?
Why don't you like have a free tier?
And why don't you do more on streaming and do this and do that?
Because we don't like putting money in a fire?
Yeah, streaming is streaming.
We offer streaming on Floatplane, but it's like...
It's an avenue that I honestly wish we never went down.
Uh, we can't take it back now, but I wish...
I mean, we can.
Yeah.
But we shouldn't.
We shouldn't.
Um...
And, yeah, it's rough.
What I, like, in my head kind of wish we did was just develop a live chat
that detects if a Twitch or YouTube or whatever else stream is live
and then generates a subscriber-only live chat for you
or something like that.
I don't know.
That'd be pretty cute.
But, I mean, we did it.
It's here now.
So we...
Good job, team.
We do the streamings.
And it's just...
It's a fun calculator to play with, I guess.
Yeah.
Uh, it's rough, too, because something that was actually very surprising to me
using the streamingscharts site...
I don't know how accurate it is.
I just found it today.
But streamcharts...
Twitches was really high, right?
140,000 channels.
Oh, yeah.
2.2 million viewers.
This was surprising to me.
Yeah.
YouTube is low-key kind of a big deal.
Whoa.
It turns out...
I didn't think for live streaming, though.
Dude.
I didn't think they'd have, like, twice the viewers.
Dude, it's YouTube.
Wow.
Everyone who's like,
yeah, man, like, you know,
rumbles, you know, YouTube...
YouTube sucks, it's good, and we're gonna...
YouTube is just unfathomably powerful.
They peaked...
What is...
Is this yesterday?
Seven days ago?
They peaked at 8 million viewers.
Yeah, they don't...
Live.
They don't need to...
They don't need to offer giant packages to prominent streamers.
They don't need to.
I mean, they can if they feel like it,
but they also just don't need to.
Yeah, that's wild.
Because, like, I was looking at our numbers,
and we had, yeah, 13,000 live on YouTube,
and then 2,900 on Twitch.
I don't know why anyone's watching on Twitch.
Colton insisted on turning the ads back on,
so that's why they're back on.
Nice.
So you should just watch on Floatplane or watch on YouTube
or watch on Facebook, apparently,
because that's a thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just...
It's an interesting...
It was a fun dive,
because...
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just a fun dive.
Seeing the numbers of these companies is interesting.
And you know, you know,
there's gonna be, like, insane volume discounts,
especially when you start getting to the numbers
that we were talking about.
Like, it's gonna be a totally different world.
But it's still interesting to see.
It's a lot of money being pumped through IVS.
Yeah, this is from ArcaneCand on Twitch.
Twitch no longer offers big streamer contracts,
because Dan Clancy said,
I can tell you the cost of retaining those streamers
would have been far more than the revenue generated.
That is something we've been very clear about.
We don't want to do that,
because the only way to do that, then,
is to have this imbalance where we make up for that
on smaller streamers.
Yeah, it makes a ton of sense.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
And, like, it's an interesting...
The streaming economy in general is really interesting,
because there's all these companies
just losing money hand over fist.
And then the viewers and a lot of the streamers
are really mad,
because the viewers are angry,
because sites like Twitch are inputting more ads
or making different viewing experiences
worse in certain ways,
or potentially pressing the creators that they like,
so they're mad for the creators
to do, like, their own transcoding
or whatever else we've seen.
And a lot of the creators want to make more money,
because, obviously, why not?
Why wouldn't you want to make more money?
Everyone wants to make more money.
But all the money's being burnt!
So, I don't know.
It's interesting.
VC money's a hell of a thing.
Yeah.
More questions?
Yeah.
During a CPU upgrade,
the IHS was melted into the copper plate
on the cooler.
Half the pins were bent
when I removed it from the motherboard.
What is the worst thing
that has happened to you
during a CPU upgrade?
That shouldn't be possible, that thing.
Yeah.
That doesn't make much sense.
I mean, the worst that's happened to me
is obviously dropping it.
Worst thing I had happen
was I was handling a hard drive
while doing some work
on my mineral oil computer,
and my hand was oily,
and it went swoop!
Nice.
And there was nothing coming off that drive
from there on.
It was unfortunate.
Just went to Facebook,
and it has 29 viewers.
So, I underestimated.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
Sorry, Facebook.
I guessed 20.
I didn't count nine of you.
Yep.
Was your mom
one of the ones
you didn't count?
She actually,
genuinely,
probably doesn't watch
through Facebook.
Yeah, no, I know.
is a YouTube viewer,
I suspect.
Okay, next up.
Hi, LLD.
Dean, I work for a major
general contracting firm,
and we are seeing
some amazing technology
come into construction.
Do you think
at a certain point
technology usage
will plateau
in skilled labor jobs?
No.
Not personally.
It'll just get faster,
more efficient,
until we can, like,
just,
there's a building,
there's going to be
some amount of progress.
Hey, LLD,
I'm an ICU nurse
and have long enjoyed
watching your videos.
Ever had a negative
tech-related
healthcare experience?
The amount of tech
we use just to keep
one person alive
is wild.
I haven't had
too many
healthcare experiences
personally,
so no,
I can't say
I've had a negative
tech-related experience.
My only negative one
was the ultrasound
machine uses
Windows CE
and it was
hilarious
watching it
boot into Windows.
I had a friend
who was an
MRI service technician
and passed away
over the
COVID period
and was working
like insane
hours
because of
COVID stuff
and just talking
to him,
the fact that
all that stuff
works in the
song and dance
that it has to
work in
is pretty
impressive.
IT people that
work for
hospitals.
Good job.
I think
they're nearly
classed as
biomedical
engineers.
I didn't ask
them.
It kind of
depends.
I know that
some of them
are like,
if you want
to think
about it,
as IT
for hospitals
but you need
a special
engineering degree
just to serve
as a cow
or something.
It's kind
of ridiculous.
A computer
on wheels,
sorry.
Okay.
Sorry.
Sorry.
It's like a
computer on a
cart.
They call it a
cow.
Not like
veterinarian
tech.
I need an
engineering degree.
We're jumping
to vets now.
No, no.
Sorry, sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
Sounds good.
Hi, DLL.
Do you figure
wearing the
Steve shirt
during an
Apple interview
for senior
software engineering
position will
be positive,
neutral,
or negative?
That's
interesting,
actually.
I think it's
going to depend
on your
interviewer.
Yeah.
A lot of it
comes down to
that.
Yeah, you
don't have to
tell them
where it's
from,
but I think
if they don't
recognize the
shtoil of it,
they probably
aren't paying
very close
attention,
so then it
would be
neutral,
and if they
do recognize
it, I would
say most
people would
probably think
it's kind
of cool that
you have a
Steve style
shirt.
Yeah, just
don't tell
them you got
it from LTT
store.
Yeah.
Probably.
Yeah.
I just might
not mention
that.
Yeah.
If they
ask, just
say MAC
address.
Yeah.
It does
have MAC
address branding
on it.
All right,
let's see if I
can get this
one right.
Hello,
Dynas,
Nuke,
and Lan.
Mr.
Lefrafarf.
Lefrafarf.
When picking
back up an
old project
that was
untouched
for months,
what do
you do to
regain interest
in continuing
and remembering
what you have
made?
That's the story
of my life.
Oh, God.
That's all
ideally.
I'm glad it was
just Luke.
Preemptive work,
right?
You got to try
to leave good
crumbs for yourself.
I have a piece
of my motorbike
sitting in our
sandblasting thing
right now.
Yes.
Still?
Yes.
Wasn't that
started years ago?
Well,
no,
no,
no.
It was
started a year
ago.
Oh,
I thought it
was way
long.
And I only
put it in
the sandblaster
a week ago.
And then I
had to have
Tynan help me
because the
bottom had to
be taken out
so that it
could fit
enough that I
could actually
get the gun
and the hoses
and everything
to the right
places on it.
Anywho,
the point is
I put things
in organized
piles.
Yeah.
I label
and I make
notes for
myself.
This is why I
said preemptive
work.
Like I,
oh my God,
it took me
two and a half
hours to change
the windshield
wipers on my
Tynan the other
night.
Why?
You're either
going to love
my reason or
you're going to
hate it.
Okay.
So here's the
thing.
If you buy
the full
assembly,
I think it
costs somewhere
in the neighborhood
of like 20 to
$50 depending
on the car and
the bottle
year and
whatever else.
Okay.
So it comes
with,
it comes,
stop.
Just stop.
I love it
though.
Okay.
So it comes
with the,
like the plastic
and metal thing
and then there's
like a clip
and it goes
into the thing.
You can get
OEM ones from
the manufacturer
or you can get
third party ones
as long as they
have the right
compatibility type
or whatever else
anyway.
The more
economical way
and you can
get these
for as little
as like a few
dollars in
some cases
is to slide
out the
actual rubbers
and buy new
rubbers and
put them in.
In my case,
I went with
silicone blades
because they
have good
performance
characteristics and
they last a
long time.
And I was
having a heck
of a time.
As it turns out,
there's not a lot
of people who,
there's not a lot
of people who
drive Taycans.
So the
resources for
DIY projects
on them are
relatively limited
and the
resources around
trying to save
$13 on your
Taycan are
especially limited.
So when I was
searching for
someone who
makes just the
rubber component,
just the rubber
strips, that it
can be installed
on a Taycan and
then just swapped
out, just that
part.
Anyway, I ended
up with this
article that was
like the top
five windshield
wipers for the
Taycan.
As it turns out,
they hadn't tried
installing any of
these apparently
because I ordered
one of them.
I ordered one of
them where the
pro, one of the
pros was that they
sell just the
replacement rubber
strips.
I was like,
great.
So that's good.
I will put on
aftermarket holders
once and then
every other time
after that, I
won't have to throw
away that whole
assembly creating a
bunch of unnecessary
waste and I'll save
a buck.
It'll be awesome.
So they clearly
never tried it.
I ordered them.
They didn't fit at
all.
It was immediately
obvious that they
wouldn't fit.
Credit to the store
I ordered from.
I wish I could
shout them out.
They have a
compatibility stage
in their order
fulfillment and
they actually, they
ask you your car
when you order
windshield wipers
and they messaged
me.
They were like,
hey, we noticed
this isn't
compatible like
officially.
So if you know
something we don't
know, then go ahead
and click this
button and then you
can't return them.
I was like, okay,
fair enough.
So they arrived.
They don't fit at
all.
Cool of them
though.
Yeah, yeah, that's
very, very cool of
them.
And so I'm kind of
sitting here going,
okay, but I need
new windshield wipers.
Hmm.
What can I do?
Get this.
The OEM Porsche
assembly, other than
having this weird
little aerodynamic
blade or something
that comes out the
other side.
so, so it's got
like, it's a shape
like this.
It's like this,
like this, and then
there's a third one
and then it comes out
like that.
It's like from
profile, profile view
of the thing.
It has a fin that
sticks out the other
side that doesn't go
against the windshield
and I don't know,
whatever, who cares?
Other than that
thing, the actual
profile of the rubber
identical, sort of
get to that.
So that got me
thinking, huh, maybe
instead of putting on
the third-party
assembly and then
swapping the rubbers
on that, I could
just take the rubbers
out of my third-party
assembly and then I
can just order more
of them after if I can
figure out how to get
them into the OEM
wiper blade assembly.
Well, that took a
while.
First, I had to
figure out how to
disassemble the Porsche
wiper blade, which it
was very obvious to
me.
It had this plastic
end cap that had
some wiggle in it, so
it clearly clicked on
at some point.
As it turns out...
Not designed to come
off?
It's not designed to
come off at all.
There's absolutely
nothing you can do.
No amount of prying
and I fix it, anything
under it could get
it off.
The only way I could
get it off was to
just forcibly rip the
old rubber blade out
and then there are two
metal strips that
sandwich it and as
soon as you take the
blade out, you can move
them together and you
can pop the end off.
So the way the
assembly process works
is they put it
together and click on
but there's no way to
remove them.
These are at both
ends.
That was only part of
the battle.
I had to figure out
how to hold these two
stupid strips together
while I fed the other
thing through.
It turns out that is
not the way to do it.
The best way to do it
is actually to put the
rubber thing into one
and then put the other
one on and then click
the middle and then
slide on these two
little retaining clips
and then pop the
end caps on.
But this is all trial
and error because I
can't find any
resources for how to
rebuild.
No one's ever done
this before.
A Porsche stupid OEM
wiper blade thing.
So I don't know what
my hourly rate is but
whatever it is that was
the world's most
expensive windshield
wiper change.
I've only changed I'm
too cheap to generally
do it so I've only ever
changed windshield wipers
once and it was on my
current car.
You live in Vancouver.
Yeah it's fine.
Oh my god no it isn't.
It's bad for your
windshield.
It'll scratch it up.
Windshield's fine.
So I've done it once.
I didn't know there
was insert things but I
assumed so I went to
Canadian Tire and asked
for them.
They said they don't
exist.
They didn't tell me that
they don't have them.
They said they don't
exist and then I said
okay what one of these
things do I need for my
car and the guy handed
me one.
I went outside.
It was clearly incorrect.
I came directly back
inside because my plan was
just swap it in the
parking lot like I don't
care.
Yeah.
You were talking about
opening the mattresses
off the parking lot but
absolutely I was doing
maintenance on my car in
the parking lot.
I go back inside I'm
like this is wrong and
they're like you can't
return it so I ended up
spending if we're talking
about hourly rate
longer than it was worth
convincing them to take
it back and they did
eventually take it back
and I bought the right
one which I just figured
out by googling and then
finally swapped it and
that was actually I mean
other than debating with
them about how I should be
able to return something if
they were literally the
ones that told me it
would work.
Whatever.
It ended up being very
easy.
Yeah.
Took me like 45 seconds.
Oh yeah.
No I know how easy it's
supposed to be.
Anyway I learned
something and now all I
have to do is order the
replacement rubbers which
required some modification by
the way because the way
they click into the third
party assembly there's a
little indentation in the
molding at the end where
two little metal hooks kind
of grab onto it that
doesn't exist on the
Porsche one because it has
end caps so I have to cut
that off but that's fine
because they're actually
about a half an inch too
long anyway okay so I
just cut that part off as
long as yeah as long as I
get a nice clean cut they
work great I rain next to
my windshield I put on my
new windshield wipers and
it's like dead silent
everything removed I'm very
happy there's some kind of
there's something in either
the rubbers or something
that causes a metallic residue
on your fingers never figured
that out that that formed at
some point most likely carbon
or graphite sure lubricant
why would that be on um uh
beyond there yeah help you get
it in yeah oh okay all right
cool unironically Luke yeah I
know I know I know cheesy
little grin you put that away
that would be that would be my
anyways someone asked if I made
a guide now that I have
figured it out the answer is
no I I didn't it was very late
by the time I was done maybe
next time you know I'll upload a
YouTube short fun yeah that'd be a
fun like channel Linus tries to
change his windshield wipers like
saving saving ten dollars by
spending hundreds of dollars worth
of hours and that's the whole
premise of the channel yeah that'd be
sweet yeah I'd watch it you know
what I'd watch it too you'd have
two viewers yeah I mean it's like
I I you know I've got I've got a
button fell off of this shirt and
the only way to get a new button is
to like travel to Pakistan to the
factory where they made it yeah
that would be awesome I would love
that even sort of worth it not
only are you like spending more
money I love this I would
definitely watch this series
that'd be sweet that'd be so
sweet oh I I do probably have
security footage of me doing this
hold on a second oh man that's how
we resurrect channel super fun
that's channel super frustrating
yeah they're a new spin-off it's fun
for the viewer wasting thirty
thousand dollars of my time to save
sixty-five cents I mean I've done
that before on my car where the part
that I'm trying to change is like four
dollars and then it takes me 15 hours
to change the part but that's like
doing maintenance and yeah Mercedes
would charge me I think the last one I
did was like six grand because you
have to take the dashboard out oh my
god and but if you know how to do it
you can do it by crawling underneath
with a pair of a couple pliers and and
redo it so you don't have to take
anything out but it does take ages so
basically you're saying you want to be
the host of this channel no no I'm
saying that's a reasonable way to save
thousands of dollars what you're doing
is not like replacing a button and you
have to go to Pakistan or like you know
but I mean stuff like that is the
consumables can get really expensive and
it's unnecessary as well what night did I
do this it was a while back
why is this yeah see Coburn gets it it's
not about the wipers it's about not
letting them win yeah I am I am so for
that mindset yeah that's one of the
reasons I respect Linus so much is
because he does shit like that it's
awesome like yeah I don't care how much
your car costs I'm not spending I
already bought the car yeah yeah yeah
that's exactly why I don't want to
spend more and there's already a
perfectly fine wiper assembly and
there's obviously like a consort it's
like light bulbs right they all got
together and they're gonna go okay well
these these wiper blades are gonna fail
like how much how much material science
and experience have you had in the
world with every single car ever having
wiper blades and you can't make them
last longer than three months I have
very strong feelings about a lot of
things that Linus is describing that he
did so I'm like yes you go Linus
thanks Dan you go to oh you know what I
can figure out what effectively stalled
for time yet no I can I can figure out
when I did this because I created a dock
for myself so okay so yeah we're coming
all the way back to what actually got us
here auto care car documents and tips
keywords tycan car windshield wipers rain
next yeah because you have to help find
things in Google Drive because the search
is so bad yeah so details hold on I
created this dock January 27th so okay
that'll help me narrow down where exactly
I need to go to to find my little
project so yeah we were talking about how
you pick up the merch message from half
an hour ago was we were talking about
how you re-pick up projects or tasks or
whatever that you've put down for a
significant period of time and the the
core idea was that it's all in in the
preemptive work it's all in the work
that you do while you're already working
on that project and that is generally
note-taking organization planning stuff
like that I don't know what Linus is
trying to do and you can extrapolate
this to things that aren't serious as
well so you should do this for things
that are serious I think we want to
switch to oh no that's the wrong one
uh that one so there it is that's how to
do it yeah give yourself notes
keywords are key uh here also uh here I
am
it works
reading researching inspecting so we're
like nearly an hour now yep
this is the most adhd thing I think I've
ever seen
okay I think by this point I have
switched to Raynax so uh it's about an
hour and a half yeah it's not too bad
actually
I was so frustrated because like it
shouldn't be that hard it's a little
plastic clip it can't be that hard to
but if I break it well I'm I have to buy
a whole new one and I'm not gonna have
new windshield wipers on my car tonight
and I can't put my old ones back on
because I ripped the rubbers up so
unless I can get it apart I got no way
to put it back together you know do you
know uh Darius yeah yeah yeah at the at
the whale land that we had in the lab
warehouse uh that night was a very
interesting night for a few people I
ended up I think staying there and
gaming no I I think I went to go sleep
for I don't remember what happened to
me um my dad stayed up all night and
then went and uh taught a plumbing
lecture and then came back and kept
gaming so he didn't sleep at all and
Darius I thought he went home to go
sleep he went home remembered that his
truck was like partially taken apart and
like I don't remember exactly what he
did he like uh replaced the fuel
injectors or something I don't remember
what it was but he did this like whole
maintenance project on his truck for the
entire duration of the night didn't
sleep at all and then came back which
was why when he was in the left for
dead tournament before the finals game
he he jumped out of his chair and just
did a bunch of push-ups because he's
trying to like get his blood flowing so
he could wake up so he could play better
absolute mad lad I very much enjoy
surrounding myself with these types of
people it's a very interesting life
garon ninja says luke's dad is a machine
mm-hmm yeah we're we were we're
convinced too yeah yeah that was a that
was a heck of a weekend
all right dan hit us sure thing hey duke
lan and dinos what are some of your
favorite 4k hdr movies to show off qd
oled tvs also I watched hackers and it
was ridiculously cheesy and hilarious at
the same time thanks for the tip
don't prob uh encanto bad ending to that
movie uh absolute visual fiesta it's so
beautiful uh that's that's definitely my
favorite right now
I apologize if this has already been
asked but what is linus's opinion of
the mig switch that was announced at the
end of last year and is set to release
this month okay this is my first
exposure to the mig switch it appears to
be a uh an r4 or whatever whatever that
thing was called for the ds oh this yeah
I didn't know it was called that and
honestly based on the website it's kind
hard to tell but yeah looks sketch
what am I even looking at here is that
rasputin I don't know who it is but uh
oh it is yeah it totally is yeah uh well
man what was that sense of the colors
what was the one before the r4 r4 ds or
like what what are what are these things
called just like um I don't know I don't
know just like pirate pirate cartridge
it's a non-hardware modification way to
flash carts flash carts okay there you
go flash cart um I don't know I would
be I'd be interested in trying it
mig switch is the only backup and
development device for all switch
consoles regardless of version firmware
and type that's wild and requires no
installation or modification of the
console just plug and play I am I'm
surprised that the switch got this
broken right before the new one comes
out or gets announced at least yeah kind
of bad timing um you know it's like
yeah you can pirate games on the switch
and finally um I mean if you can if you
can I mean it's still cool it's still
very cool because you can get micro SD
cards that are like a terabyte right uh
yeah I think yeah I think so so I
apparently can't buy one I go to the
website oh but so they either got taken
down or they're not up yet or something
like that yeah one terabyte micro SD card
is a hundred bucks you pair that with
this thing you got a lot of games super
easy to get in China uh France apparently
pretty easily Italy no problem Mexico no
problem uh watch out guys something to
keep in mind is that these can be illegal
depending where you're from even if you
use them for their official purpose which
is to back up your own cartridges uh so
yeah thoughts are yep this is a thing that
apparently exists I am very curious to try
it but I also uh does anyone have one like
are you guys uh so the Canadian store
doesn't work but you can go to American
stores that ship to Canada okay
yeah I'm kind of curious I think this is
just Shopify yeah there's just Shopify
stores that ship to Canada got it okay
yeah interesting you can get switch
banned with these um says McBain
Nintendo can ban the game's unique serial
number oh very interesting I don't know I
just I just buy my games guys I um I am at
that era as well yeah like I I uh I don't
subscribe to services though yeah that's
fair enough yeah if I was if I wanted to if I
wanted to rip off Nintendo I think uh a
steam deck and emulation is probably the
route I would go or a um an ally and
emulation if you need the extra performance
yeah yeah all right okay what else we
got oh uh let's see hey LLD my wife
bailed on the Pokemon franchise when she
lost the ability to have the entire
Pokedex in one game what franchise do you
feel has let you down the most that's an
interesting take if your tagline is you
gotta catch them all and then you're just
like you can't yeah but I feel like
pretty interesting eventually the sheer
number of Pokemon because they're always
releasing new ones so that you have new
ones to collect would have just been it
would have just gotten completely
unmanageable like how many are there now
there's like 150 in Pokemon blue and red
if I recall correctly that's right first
gen is it is it 150 151 oh sorry god
1025 game so maybe you are correct but in
that generation there's 151 yeah you said
the games though um 1015 is that what you
said 1025 apparently 2025 over a thousand
let's say that yeah like how could you
possibly hope to balance a game that has a
thousand yeah playable battleable Pokemon
yeah and you can put all those Pokemon in
something called Pokemon home that I don't
know anything about but I know you can put
Pokemon there from all the different games
yeah like that's ridiculous no I get it
what franchise has let you down the most
though I mean it's got to be Final Fantasy
for me I loved the games and then I just
didn't can I just say a company blizzard
Bethesda oh so are you a blizzard are you
games that start with B are you off the
starfield like bandwagon yeah yeah okay so
you're just over it yeah I tried really
hard you really did it was sort of
admirable I gave it every effort I
possibly yeah you really did it was
actually kind of sad yeah it's sad to
watch yeah yeah did the disillusionment it
only comes that much stronger it was
replaced with rage when you try that hard
yes like is it less of a piece of shit
now or is it just no yeah okay no cool
and I have no faith that it will get
cyberpunked because the problem is just
not that into it anymore
you're on fire tonight it took me a sec
these have been very high quality that was a
deep cut I am a I am appreciative wow
he's not there to fix it in my opinion
the the problem is the company yeah and
that's why I said I wanted to say a
company not a not an individual
franchise I don't think they're capable
anymore I actually don't because you
look at that you look at the trajectory
ever since oblivion and actually in my
opinion every game from every franchise
from Bethesda ever since oblivion has
been some form of regression and people
are gonna be pissed off because everyone
loved Skyrim but in my opinion Skyrim was
kind of the beginning of the end in in
like a huge amount of different ways okay
but yeah but maybe Blizzard never let you
down because hold on first of all this is a
different company and also I don't agree
hold on because maybe Blizzard just changed
their name okay have you seen this no
stormgate reveal is this like some of the
original devs or something this is folks
who worked on Starcraft and Warcraft 3
they just oh that looks so cool they just
shattered their Kickstarter seven months
ago how'd I never heard about this I I'm
not sure how you missed this look at that
micro with you I don't know I love the
art style yeah it's so defined and
everything's really easy to read and
we've been watching this for 40 seconds
and understand whatever yes games are
everything difficult to follow so so good
never even seen this game before and I
can fully understand what's going on great
character models yeah love the UI and
even like the terrain as well like the
trees and all of the terrain is it's great
there's a lot in really well there's a lot
of really cool ideas I am I'm floored
that you haven't seen any of this yet
stormgate it's called yeah I've maybe
heard of it but I haven't seen that
video don't pre-order you know whatever
but also it seems like what they're doing
is really cool so if you want to support
it then is there an estimated I don't
remember people are talking about modded
versions of the Elder Scrolls yeah but
that's not the game there's I Skyrim
modding is fantastic Starfield modding
is required to even have a potential of
enjoying any percentage of the game but
is nowhere near as good the person who
made the multiplayer mod for Skyrim yeah
was looking into playing making a
multiplayer mod for Starfield and just
didn't bother his quote on it I wish I
could find it he just eviscerated them
yeah it was brutal like back to
something that maybe doesn't suck
stormgate yeah is this the future
looking at all the layoffs in the games
industry looking at all the challenges
facing triple-a gaming and the enormous
budgets required to bring the next GTA or
the next Call of Duty or whatever it is to
market don't people just want fun I
strongly believe don't people just want
battle bit I strongly believe so and I
still enjoy battle bit I still play
every once in a while and and love it
like I where what what the heck happened
to RTS yeah well it's it's not as it's
not as profitable as a gotcha game like
how did we get I think RTS is harder to
continually monetize through micro
transactions because people don't care as
much about the skins look how did we get
two Diablos since the last RTS from
Blizzard yeah how does that make any
sense yeah it might be smaller teams
making more bespoke things
Baldur's Gate is not an RTS
I'm trying so hard to not somehow force
Baldur's Gate into this conversation and
yeah it's not an RTS come on I think
that's one to force myself into this
conversation that's one of the things
that amazed me about Pal World when I
tried it for the first time it was just
a game it's just fun you push go and
then you're you're playing the video
game there's no like stuff that wastes
your time one thing that I've figured
that wasted my time with the most with
Death Stranding that was a huge yeah
unrespecting game same with probably
Starfield as well but Pal World Mario
the first Mario Party for switch whatever
whatever the name of that one is just
brutal just let me play the video game
let me have fun please and they could
have patched it so easily all they had to
do was make cutscenes skippable and the
game would have been way better even even I'm
gonna mention bg3 now even bg3 you just
hit the right mouse button and then the
the line is gone right going from that
where I can skip through dialogue really
quickly yeah or listen to it and then
going to Starfield terrible I don't know
Stormgate will be released on early
access through Steam in 2024
D Martinese says the game is boring
bland and the main draw of Bethesda games
exploration in a lively and handcrafted
world was completely gone the modern
world I'm not gonna put my heart and
soul into a mod for a game as mediocre as
this
wait February 5th no way Stormgate's
coming out in two days no is it really
did this sneak up on me like that wait
it's the second you live somewhere that
isn't here it might be early access or
something no no exactly state's been
confirmed yet yeah it's a complex game so
it may take some time blah blah blah blah
yeah no no closed beta apparently okay
all right well I'm not in that but I
mean I you're influential enough that I
bet you could be yeah anyone know anyone
who works give me in there Luke wants to
play I realistically won't have time but I
do and you have a new computer is it
working now yeah okay good it works with
the side panel off all right well all
right well it people watch the video I've
put it through some stuff though and like
when it when it I haven't recreated this
scenario yeah but when it did overheat that
one time I was pushing it very hard but
can you play Final Fantasy 6 I haven't
tried yet I am planning on playing all
right tonight slash tomorrow all right
cool I gave him my manual from when I was a
kid it's actually super cool yeah have you
looked through have you like thumb through
and stuff yeah I haven't even before I was
able to play I was like well that's what
it used to be like I love stuff your
parents wouldn't let you play the game
all the time I also and so you had to
just read the manual I enjoy tactile
stuff in general but like when we were
playing Anno which I would still like to
play again sometime yeah yeah we should
go back to our world and like you know
somehow figure out what the heck we
were doing yeah when we were playing
Anno I used to take written notes on a
on a like notepad so that we could figure
out what the heck we were supposed to do
next time Steam has since introduced a
feature that I try to be you told it to
me through a video actually so nice I
learned this from you but it's like the
coolest thing ever and no one seems to
know about it but Steam has a feature
where if you bring up the overlay you
can have notes for a game that are cloud
saved and game specific which is like
the coolest thing ever yeah so I would
have just digitized them if that feature
existed back then but oh it's also a
you play game you can probably force
Steam overlay onto it but not sure yeah
anyways yeah Stormgate that looks sick
I kind of hope that the future of games
is actually aiming a little bit less high
on the difficult expensive things now
tell me this and still aiming really
high on the fun now tell me this what if
that means these small teams have to use
AI oh that's in order to achieve I don't
even think I want to get into that
conversation this is dangerous you're
you're asking for it's there's knives to
my throat right now man the usage of AI how
much you should do how much you can do all
that kind of stuff is very very intrigued I
don't want either of you to touch that
let's have another let's have another
merch message black smoke rise says we
are never going to bed lol I have a sign
we go down I have a sign chat we have a
sign for this it's fine uh hi DLL I've
worked for my high school's IT department
for three years but I'm going to study
civil engineering in college what is a
good way to market tech skills to non-tech
employers uh I mean I did this I'm
assuming you probably did to a certain
degree as well back in the day no so I
used to walk into
uh most I would try to profile places
that I thought would need IT work so I
wouldn't necessarily walk into
a grocery store I don't know that's just
an example yeah sure no chain because
it's yeah no especially no chain what I
would try to look for was small mom and
pop probably this is the only location
that exists uh medical or legal practices
because I'm just off the top of my head
with both of those uh tons of regulations
around data regulations data retention
security for different things sure that's
when true crypt was super sick back in
the day and nobody knew what true crypt
was so I could basically just like get
them set up with true crypt and show
them how to use it and that would be like
an automatic win and I could often do
that part for free yep and then get my
foot in the door and be like all right
now that your data is encrypted so you're
not breaking a bunch of laws because you
probably were because most of them were
by the way just so you know um uh I can
do more things for you you're gonna have
to pay me now but I can set you up with
you know like uh data redundancy so the
remote access remote access do all these
different types of things make it so
that if this one computer dies your
entire company doesn't go up in flames
and you can give some um some uh cases
of like here's an example of a company
where they had a fire uh they lost all
their records and they just immediately
went bankrupt because they're a legal or
medical thing or whatever and that like
can't really happen um huge risk in legal
and medical field if you don't have good
insurance though yeah I didn't know that
back then let's move forward uh but I
think that is probably a thing um I think
the insurance might be on the company I
don't I don't know there's some stuff
this is not legal advice this is yeah
this is definitely everything he's
saying right now is the opposite of
legal not even sort of but yeah it's
beagle lice
find a way to communicate how being more
technologically advanced can
financially benefit that business the one
bit I'll pitch in with this don't
jargon them show them what they can do
with it yeah for real show them the
result because there probably is a lot
of these companies like they just don't
know what is possible yeah technologically
and they might be able to save a bunch
of their own time maybe maybe they're
making enough money this is the only uh
storefront they want to have uh but
there's some tedium involved and if you
can help them skip that tedium you might
just make their life a bunch better and
if you can do that at a cost that is
reasonable they might run with it all
right dan hit us hi dinas duke and lan i
work with superconducting magnets that
will be used in the lhc at cern oh what
a chad that's an international project
are you excited to see the outcome of
that one um iter how about garbage patch
cleanup i'm gonna go with that yeah
there's actually really cool things
there yeah there's another really cool
one that we became aware of recently uh
they're finding like old sunk uh like
ships and they are mapping them and
then going down and trying to retrieve
the fuel from them
yeah no that's cool i've heard of that
before yeah not because they like need
fuel for ships but it's kind of way it
won't leak out into the ocean bit of a
time bomb yeah yeah yeah yeah that's
really cool i want to show this really
quick before we keep going i don't know
if we showed this earlier but
apparently stormgate it's over two
million was raised yeah i know you said
they beat their target but like two
million versus a hundred grand is
crazy yeah people are storming the gates
to get that game co-op yo yeah i didn't
know we had co-op make games that are
games everybody copy this it's good do
this make it nice that's so cool just do
cool things just play it's a game just
make it fun no games have co-op i know
and it's awesome and so does bg3 all
these games that i love if you have co-op
in your game and it's at least decently
fun i'm pretty much gonna get slap shot
rebound
yeah you know what's fun playing games
with your friends yes five five v five or
six v six i think it supports slap shot
rebound is
eight oh yeah i think you have to go in
the bigger arena but i think you're
right yeah it's freaking nuts super fun
the potential to find five more friends
maybe don't care if it makes the game
unbalanced it doesn't matter no one
cares i've heard that example from a
bunch of people oh we can't like balance
the single player campaign around co-op who
cares no one cares you just you just team
up and then you just avengers stomp
everything you encounter and that's fun
yeah just please it's fun games are fun
games are supposed to be fun anyways just
make them move on from stormgate i'm
wildly more excited now that i know it
offers co-op that's really cool
idl i know the lab and the landminton
court projects are huge but what is the
next step for lmg growth enhancements
expansions i love you guys i think the
main focus for us is getting the lab
uh improving the lab i mean it's it's
obvious that we have things to work on
we've had things to work on we have
things to work on with that i think that
it's really clear where we want to get
to and there's a lot of investments and a
lot of time um that it's going to take in
order to get there but that's something
that i think is probably the most important
thing that we are doing right now is
building that database that will exist to
help just demystify things and make this
information that you can pull up at a
moment's notice rather than something that
you have to sit through a video that
clearly none of you want to watch um in
order to get
with city with cities in the uk now
increasing parking charges for evs with
the reason giving that they have higher
lifetime emissions than traditional cars
are we starting to see the beginning of the
end for evs no what kind of question is
that
evs are not going anywhere i mean i do hope
the plug-in hybrid model sort of takes
over
um i think it is a better solution for the
vast majority with gasoline i don't know
that i'm not convinced but i mean i and i
with with
i mean hydrogen fuel cell if it works as
well as it like pie in the sky should it
kind of sounds amazing
um i still feel like i don't know enough
about hydrogen fuel cells to talk about
this to be completely honest yeah i know i
know enough to know that it's on paper
just outstanding because the refueling
times are more like gas yeah and the
emissions are more like nothing it's
super cool absurdly expensive though
yeah but it's it's a long way it's a long
way away is the biggest issue yeah
hey double hey d double hockey sticks
have you ever realized in the moment i
don't know there's just they're going
crazy with the names all of them all of
them are like this every single message
is like this
hey d double hockey sticks have you ever
realized in the moment that you're
doing something you'd remember for the
rest of your life
yes what was it uh i'm not going to
repeat most of them but i i think it's
we have a bleep button i think it's an
important thing to do
actually not not only in the moment you
were doing that you can't say i mean
sure how else do we make more people but
it's truly a noble goal i was i was
thinking more like trash bags and a
large carpet and then like a ditch
yeah yeah yeah maybe you're using a
condom it's all for nothing
yeah linus has had to replace rubbers
there's still a percentage chance that
it's for something
um
he's not wrong
um anyways i think it's actually very
important and valuable to
to you as a person to not not
necessarily even when you're in the
exact moment but when you're in a
period of time
when you're like recognizing i will at
some point in time look back at this
and think of this as good old days for
whatever this activity type of thing is
i think it's actually good to recognize
that and like bask in the warmth of that
to a certain degree
um because if you don't
i think it's easy to fall into
negativity even though you are in a
very good time because you're only
thinking about the the the bad things
and allowing yourself to just like
actually be like no you know what in a
lot of ways this is really great
and i'm gonna be very happy thinking
about this in the future is a good
thing there's too much negativity in
the world i don't take enough candid
pictures me neither like
this moment why would i take a picture
of this it's just it's just uh we're
we're walking to or from school or
something it's just
yvonne and our youngest daughter she's
she's carrying her for you know what
might be the last time
yeah right like she's getting to the age
where you don't know when the last time
you carry them somewhere is going to be
right
um and so i'm trying to think about that
stuff more but honestly i'm i'm really
bad about it i um we took some pictures
when we were at the badminton center
because like i realized that we took no
pictures of our reno when i was trying
to pull a cable through conduit and i was
like
yeah i have no in progress of any of this
and the most fun pictures for me to look
back at are always the candid ones just
like oh yeah we had the furniture like
that in that room that means more to me
i try to screenshot floatplane every once
in a while yeah i yeah i tried to i have a
bunch of historical screenshots of the
forum
things change more than we realize i think
yes i sent the ones i took uh to yvonne
because yeah i took a bunch of reference
pictures thank you
you're welcome yeah and just what i was
laughing at by the way was dan just like
slid out from behind and took a photo of us
i thought that would be cute
dan you're always cute feeling cute right
now might delete later
my screen protector goes over the front of
it so it's blurry as hell but that'll be
fun yeah
uh i don't know i i actually genuinely
think it's very important um i don't
think i've done that enough in my life but
it's something i've tried to make an
effort to do more so over the last i'd
probably say like three or four years
um and there's been a few times where i've
even like said it out loud to other people
and they're like what do you mean
i'm like i don't know i feel like we're
kind of at a peak with this thing not
that that's a bad thing
but i think we should like appreciate
that and enjoy it while we have whatever
this is and that might be a friend group
that like if you have a friend group in
high school even if you stay friends with
them after high school different it's
different you're probably not going to
see them very often yeah someone might
move away it's not going to be the same
someone might be that low percentage
even when they do use the thing that
they have kids then yep yeah uh you
might have like a dnd group that you
play with eventually that's probably
going to end not guaranteed but probably
and you should just recognize when
you're in the moment like this is fun
i like these people this is good this is
a good thing that i have
i this is yeah i don't know i'm gonna
stop ranting about it uh speaking of
things that um i'm making memories of
remember last week i was trying to point
out bannable comments and i realized i
hadn't really screenshotted any of them
well i screenshotted some for the show
this week here's an example of a comment
that will get you a shadow ban
i wonder how mocking the blatantly failing
commercial name strategy of ingredient
every 30 seconds helps in any way the
consumers understand what to choose
naming choices start sucking more than
hell at 4000 series launch and
unlaunch not grown better however lmg says
we're pro-consumers okay fine deliver
info stand-up comedian should be for
super fun channel ish
what are you even talking about yeah i
don't know like well actually what are
you talking about
no idea um yeah so this one's good this
is from the land center badminton video
at 5 16 i make a comment about how the
women's washroom has the natural light
because of course the women's washrooms
are always nicer what a completely
unnecessary comment like if you're so
bothered by women having the changing
room with nature lighting change it you
own the company this is so toxic and not
even true to be honest
what shadow ban nice you're actually done
you have nothing to contribute i've just
i've seen some questions from people like
okay is linus just like silencing dissenting
opinions
no it's just like actual wastes of
characters on youtube servers like that's
what it's a it's like it's a thing you
know the women's washroom is always nicer
and cleaner and smells better because it
just does because they just take care of
things
like it's just it's just a thing and the
natural obviously i know i could change
it the decision was made that the women's
washroom should just be nicer because
they're just always nicer i thought about
shadow bands for the people who talked
about the privacy issue of having a window
there i considered it because obviously
we're not stupid we're gonna put security
film on it like what come on
come on people but i decided to leave those
ones
i decided to leave those ones anyway
bit by bit i'm cleaning up our comment
section and i'm actually noticing a
difference
yeah good it is a shockingly i think small
number of users contributing to the vast
majority of the stupidity in the comment
section like a decade ago or something i
used to be against that type of stuff but
i think in the modern web you just have
to
yeah i think it just is what it is and i
think honestly an argument
to the other side is just an argument
asking for
a bad experience i yeah i don't know how do
you know the women's washroom is better
hmm sus says as early 32 one of the most
mortifying experiences of my adult life
was in the library at ubc in university
when i just
went to the washroom
used the bathroom
came out to wash my hands and there was a
woman washing her hands at the sink next to me
and i just
left without washing my hands which probably
didn't make it better at that point
i just hadn't paid attention i just
need to get out i just walked into the
women's washroom um
it was pretty bad i've i've almost but never
actually done it i've like gotten up to right
in front of the door and then be like oh and then
switched yeah i've never yeah yeah no i i like
went in did my business it wasn't it wasn't a busy
library it was like the it was like the small one
it was uh
which one was it ivan and i used to go hey oh yeah
and ivan was there like i i i left and came back and i
was like completely red and so i told her
immediately like uh okay don't take this the wrong
way but i just checked out the women's washroom hey nice washroom
you guys are doing great yeah it wasn't a labeling issue
i just completely spaced 100 um i have to redeem myself at super
checks so we do have to start getting through some of these merch messages at
some point luke beat me last week and i'm so
upset got him overtime game five of our five game series they're really good
games they were really tight games hard
fought games what did i win the first two
or was it one one i know you won the first one
i think it was i think you did win the first two and then i came back
yeah and he came back and took three in a row
yeah i think so because the first game was like really
close or something and then the second game was
i don't think it was and then i came back i think i don't
remember anyway yeah yeah i should have
noticed there was no urinal though
yeah people say that but i don't know if you're if you're spaced enough if
you're if your head's somewhere else thinking about somewhere else that you
walked into there in the first place are you going to notice the urinal thing i
don't know
yeah
all right let's see what else we got here hello dll with the land center coming
soon will we be able to buy ltd merch and other cool stuff from the creator
warehouse there thanks for the cool tools uh there will be some stuff there like i would
imagine we'd have water bottles and stuff probably but you might as well have
at least like a couple screwdrivers and backpacks screwdrivers and i don't want it to
seem weird like it's a badminton pro shop it's not a screwdriver store that makes sense we do want
to do a physical location at some point but like i also don't want it to just look like a weird ltd
garage sale you know yeah it makes sense um like i could see like we ltd has uh like uh like athletic
pants and stuff like we we would totally have those there but beyond that no i don't think so
hey lld what are your thoughts on the apple air tags now that they notify a thief they're being
tracked had my ltd backpack stolen last year with one in it and never got my stuff back so i only found
out this week that as an android user you can ping any air tag that has been like near your phone recently
or something like that so yvonne discovered this she was like yeah i had to use my because i i threw
an air tag in her purse because she went through a period a little while there where she was just
like leaving it everywhere and i was like okay well this is getting really inconvenient trying to track
down where you put it on the security cameras and stuff um like she's usually really good about that
stuff but we just she wasn't getting a lot of sleep and she just kind of like she left it somewhere
like twice within a few weeks or something like that and i was like okay this needs to stop happening
so i threw an air tag that i happened to have because dbrand someone over for some sponsored
something it had a linus meme face on it checked it in her purse and i was like okay well just let
me know if you need to find it because and i'll have to grab the utility iphone because neither of
us daily drives an iphone and then this was i don't know six months ago or something but earlier this
week she goes oh yeah i had to use the air tag for the first time i'm like what do you mean use the
air tag how'd you use it i don't even think you know where my iphone is and she's like oh yeah no i just
go into this thing and you can see recently connected trackers and just beep them like
you obviously can't use um uw whatever it is the like the super super direct uwb i forget what it's
called uh but you can't you know just point it and you find it you know to within 30 centimeters or
whatever but you can you can ping it and i was like oh okay interesting so it seems like over time
apple has gone from sending an occasional notification to you can actually like ping the thing um
what i will say is this is true to the intended functionality of the device it was supposed to be
for you to find your own thing that you misplaced it was really useful for anti-theft um
i don't want it to be used for stalking and stuff though but i understand why
these changes major problems have been made yeah um yeah man i
i get it i understand why they had to change it but for the law-abiding citizens it's this is one
of those things where the never do wells wreck things for everyone if just if nobody used them
for stalking totally this wouldn't be a problem and you could just track your personal air tag anywhere
you wanted anytime you wanted and it sucks that it has to be like this yeah this is why we can't have
nice things demartini's on that same subject that's a great segue um i love this is a great take on um
a comment i get a lot hey linus i've been watching since elementary school when you didn't even have
your own channel yet and was always wanting to ask you why you're built funny it's just a very strange
why i'm built funny like do you mean physically like my build if you could be taking this so long
so many ways minus i live in your walls why are you so weird
i i often make that joke when people walk up to me at a trade show or expo or whatever or they're like
i've been watching you for 10 years and i'm like really i didn't see you it's great that's horrible
have fun with it i know i love it it's it's yeah this is great uh built funny um i have kind of wide
hips for uh for a male for my for my body type the fashion team tells me that um robust child
birthing hips it's good other than that uh you know i'm kind of short but it's all in my legs my
torso is normal so if i wanted to get that like height enhancing uh surgery i would actually look
quite proportionally sound okay i can't play sports anymore at all well like i'm sure you at all could
do something but they definitely say like is it because the bone structure is not as strong or
like what's the reason uh i would assume that it is not as strong as it used to be and probably it
messes up your muscles a little bit but yeah i don't know if you guys know you could recover from
both of those if you're short you can like have your legs broken and then they like pull your bones
apart and they brace them and they like grow back together or something it's it's it's wild surgery
kind of nuts you uh you won't be able to play sports because you would be too powerful
here's one for luke while you go through some of the potentials uh what is your favorite you'll have
to throw me oh my goodness
luke what is your favorite build and slay the spire i always love when a shiv deck can come together with
the silent uh that's kind of funny that's one of my favorite builds and slay the spire
uh all my favorite builds are going to be not all the majority of my favorite builds are on the
silent the silence my favorite one by far um i would probably say that honestly i prefer poison
over shiv but shiv is fantastic um they're both very very good um i find both those very fun another
one that i like is just raging super hard on ironclad and going full strength and just trying to like
one to two turn every single combat and if you fail you die that's very entertaining uh so those
are my three favorite glass cannon i think that type of thing is called yeah yeah because he's often
built as like a a block machine so he just like defends like crazy so you just build him in completely
other way which he is also built for but a lot of new players won't go for it you just go strength
super hard um yeah hey dll i remember an old ltd video about haunted hardware which had fraps working
on vulcan when it shouldn't have been aside from that what's the weirdest hardware thing you've seen
uh recently i wasn't able to play back video on my machine at home it turned out to be uh i needed to
reinstall my amd drivers but even with hardware acceleration disabled it would barely play anything
it was super weird i wish i i wish i'd recorded it because it's the kind of thing where you tell
people they're like oh yeah but i'm sure it was easily solved no it was not easily solvable everything
youtube twitch uh local media players i just couldn't really i couldn't play media yeah um i mean i don't
know i've seen some weird oh oh my uh my old boot drive for my system one of the reasons that i was
like okay just it let's reformat this thing was that um windows hello will not work i cannot change my
password it's it's just like it's just it's just broken i i have a i have a webcam that supports
it and on the fresh install it just immediately worked the way it's supposed to but there was
some weird authentication thing where i was using a local account then i was using like a work account
and then i was using my hotmail and then i was just something something it's just it has no idea
what's going on it's completely broken um i i think my most modern example at the very least is when
we used to do remote calls for the wan show um we used to i'm talking like within the last
the the most recent one that isn't the current one we're using uh we used a system called ping.gg from
from theo which was great um he said i think afterwards i don't remember i know he said it
afterwards i think he might have said it beforehand as well that it doesn't work on mobile um but when i
was in that airport in serbia and i had to call in for the wan show i did it entirely through my
phone on mobile and it worked flawlessly the whole time and i remember i told him afterwards and he was
like that shouldn't have worked but yeah it was it was flawless so that was kind of fun it was also
really important that it worked at that time so i'm happy that it did
oh no uh oh yeah what's your favorite janky cooling video on the channel one of my favorite series
favorite janky cooling this one holds a very special place in my heart
i don't know why actually because there are other ones that were more fun there were other ones that
were more visually interesting like when we used water to cool a heat sink uh like we used put an
air cooler we just poured water through it or like the fire cooling that hacksmith came out like we've
done so many janky cooling things but the computer in the fridge which obviously didn't work because
obviously that won't work uh but i don't know why but this when you ask that question this is the one
that stuck out in my mind baby alex building the world's shittiest mold
oh my hold on hold on those are the failed attempts just a second
oh my god i have not seen this video holy crap i remember this but it's so old so this is it in
order to get it mounted to anything uh we basically had to just cut the one i love this this is it
mounted cool the cpu with a this channel seems cool i should subscribe um yeah it didn't work at
all pretty much it's a complete piece of i think alex still has this next to his desk i would keep that
forever yeah that's beautiful amazing memories man memories uh i run into a lot of issues at my
company around poor communication as someone who is here do you work anywhere yeah as someone who
is leading a team are there any ways you have found to combat this the roles here are all work from home
as well oh god please please email us if you know if you find out save us if i knew the answer
i'd be writing a book and i wouldn't have to work here anymore yeah if you find out sell it to the
world yeah i'm a billionaire so i think the answer is no communicating with a large group of very
different people is extremely hard how people take a certain message is going to be very different
depending on who the person is when they receive it all that type of stuff also some people will just
not be very interested in reading messages from certain uh messaging apps so there might be people
that prefer to read messages from something or another thing or someone who ignores one type of
routine email maybe that you put information in but they just don't think it's normally very
important to them so they don't read it moving moving forward etc etc etc fun fact on our monday
morning meeting notes the first line is actually monday morning media is important you need to read
it or something like that and i'm sure i don't remember the wording because uh he doesn't read it
because i can't see it anymore because it's always there there's no there's no work around for that
yeah so like i don't know man it's uh it's a big problem and i i think being too angry at your own
company about it is not going to get you anywhere because if you leave that company and go somewhere
else you're going to run into the same problem so have fun is it good to uh yell constantly at
your direct manager who sits across the room from you yeah yeah is that help it's a good strat does
that make him less stressed i said go for it yeah do it um and that he is powerless to make any changes
no i make some he has power yeah don't kid yourself he has power if he's not changing something
it's because he doesn't want to i will continue to yell then no i'm just somewhat fair enough i can
make changes um it's just you can't fix communication completely you can make efforts you can try to
improve things when someone that helps a lot yeah if both sides are making an effort you can get a lot
done yeah and like part of that is going to be like if if you notice a problem with with some form
of communication that's happening voice it make sure that you are also not a communication problem
or as much as you can um and just try to understand that it's going to be an issue do what you can to
mitigate it uh do what you can to improve things if someone comes to you i think you mentioned help
leading a remote team if someone comes to you and mentions a communication issue uh try to act on it
best you can um i i find layering is helpful so um and i i don't always do this perfectly
i also have my own communication issues don't get me wrong um stop it
uh but try to do it multiple times so like if you say something vocally in a meeting try to have it in
text as well um if someone received something through an email uh that that is important yeah
they received it but they might just not read that email or something um copy it out put it in another
chat uh tag people directly require reactions this is something that uh oh i love that dan i have
adopted that into my entire life and all my dev circles it's brilliant uh dan from the labs web team
started doing this with his team and then i copied it in every scenario i possibly could um which is like
when there's a pr um if you see it you have to react with the like eyeballs reaction um and if it's
good to go you have to react with the check mark reaction and it just means you have actual good
receipts because red doesn't mean anything because notifications are totally broken things get marked
as red all the time maybe you open your computer and it's on that message but you're looking for
something really quickly so you just immediately click off of it well it just got marked as red
you're not going to see it again but if someone goes through the effort to do that reaction you
know that they actually saw it so if it's important enough you can require reactions and then you can
check the reactions to see who didn't do it and you can go after them directly to make them read the
thing that was a lot nice yeah i love that system actually uh what else how is the struggle dealing
with doing things you love but also doing it for a living and the livelihood of others
is it a is the burden ever too much it can be exhausting um like i i still haven't tried the
wireless vive vive uh index adapter i got it plugged in it's it's charged it's ready and i just
have been i've needed some decompression time when i've been at home lately instead of
tinkering with tech sometimes it's all i want to do sometimes it's it's nice to have a break and uh
even though it's i'm really interested in it and i want to know how it works i just look at it and go
right but before i can do that i'm gonna have to spend an hour just like fighting with it i'm gonna
have to take notes while i do it which saps a lot of the joy of the discovery yeah it makes it feel a
lot more like work it's tough it's tough i don't i don't have a perfect answer all right linus and team
you always say not to pre-order things but what would you say about pre-ordering a framework laptop
i actually did and can't wait receiving it i would tell you the same thing i always say i would
say don't pre-order things if i if i were to give you a different answer just because i was
an investor in the company then you should never trust anything i say ever again hey lld has anyone
tried to use the s24 ai image search on faces for example linus would it find the ldt store mousepad
memes linkedin what about other people with love the guy that luke signed his word 1997 i have not
tried it but that actually sounds kind of awesome hello wan.dll first merge matches hold on i'm actually
thinking of getting one i really like it i did an unboxing for short circuit that went up today
um s24 it looks kind of sick i still hate hole punch cameras but obviously i'm not getting away
from that anytime soon um you can with this phone the screen's incredible what phone is that the
anti-glare coating on it it's unbelievable what phone do you have to have the sony uh one x yeah sony i
can't figure out how to move the stupid back button to the right though what it's just like a toggle it is
not toggle it prove them wrong uh-oh fight time it's going to be my second apple arcade moment
of the day it'll be great either that or it'll be dan's first apple arcade moment of the day
oh my god he's right yeah ridiculous right why wouldn't they it's it's it's part of like
aosp or whatever oh no i can no longer recommend this phone how do they how do they
like what the heck and i get it some people like the back button on the left that's nice i i love
that you like the back button on the left but it is it is as far as i can tell just like a toggle
the developer of the android skin can just enable it's uh absolutely part of um the top level use it
i think i swipe from the side all the time yeah that's fine i don't like gesture and i like three
button and i like the back button on the left and i'm not going to tell you guys not to like your ways just
like i will not allow a phone manufacturer to tell me that i'm not allowed to like my way if i want
the back button on the right then i want the back button on the right wow okay no i'm never
recommending this phone to anyone again well that is no luke you don't understand that's actually enough
for me no i believe you i am i am insane at this point i've worked with him for a while i fully believe
that yeah no questions don't buy a sony ever again the back buttons dan would you recommend that
people work at linus media group oh uh do you are you the kind of person anybody out there are you the
kind of person that would own a porsche like linus and change the blades of your wiper blades just for
the principle of doing it if you are then i think you're you're gonna fit into the team here
okay so a conditional yes a conditional yes if if that honestly makes sense
if not giving the user the right for a risk like it's part of android but the basic thing
to be able to switch the buttons if that was something that somebody had to develop for or like
you know touch whiz doesn't support it so you do your own launcher then all right fine you know
uh but for just just not turn on a knob like it took efforts to probably disable that yeah in my
opinion it bothers me so much man and if it's not in the debug or anything like that like god damn i mean
i actually hate for for me like i like when android 11 now you got me fun that got me ranting
i'm angry man oh god i almost said it twice um everything on android is giant now all of the
buttons are huge all like the clock this is this is this screen has the highest pixels per inch of any
phone on the market yeah and how's that information density 660 pixels per inch you making use of that
density i can't because android is garbage i hate it oh man abacus give me an abacus i'm going to the
forest i'm gonna live with the forest things yeah see you later dan bye
what the is this show i still don't know my uh my meds are off now i've been hosting it for over a
decade luke and i still don't know what it is there's no more faux quest i'm gonna go i'm gonna go write
an app to switch those switch those buttons it like intercepts your input moves yeah geez geez hello
when dll first mercy first time merch message i'm so sorry man what are some of the most cool or
unusual pieces of tech you've seen put into a pc case for example i saw someone put a discreet car
stereo into one ages ago back in the old days people used to put all kinds of wild things in the
front of the five and a quarter inch bay like yeah oh yeah the cigarette lighter yeah it's just that's
wow that really shouldn't be there yeah you shouldn't smoke around your computer the the amount of
like cigarette smoke tar that i've had to try to remove from computers over the years like just
stop yeah go smoke outside right into the intake fan because that's how fans work yeah
that's a good answer last one am i curated we basically use an apple tv as a coaster with all
the smart tvs so i'm curious what is the most expensive piece of tech the company or employees
have that does not get used as intended at all i mean i did my thing on that super expensive
circulation fan last week so i won't talk about that i could talk about our 3d printers man the
kinds of things that i've seen people using 3d printers for internally we do a lot of really good
things with them prototyping products and uh you know creating uh holders for our slates and pens for
the sets and all kinds of very useful things but one stood out to me and this was for a lan event of
some sort we apparently 3d printed a gigantic batch of trophies and i was sitting there going
these are the most generic trophies that could ever have existed could we have bought these for
like a dollar could we have bought these at the dollar store and the answer is often yes
and it happens all the time we will design something that is actually available at dollarama
well we'll put the insert design wiper we didn't design the trophies
oh they just downloaded file we did not design the trophy i've seen things get designed
unfortunately you have to design yeah that's what i thought we we designed i think more than once
a like holder for a computer for our barcode scanner station he's talking about me right now when i was
like guys you know the microsoft surface exists you know there's one in inventory right now it has a
kickstand built into it just use that
and that's the stuff he complains about
actually very reasonable but also not um okay yeah that's it i'm done i hope that rhino isn't 3d
printed the rhino no that is uh that is ceramic yeah i hope we didn't pay for that ceramic rhino i'm
sure we did i'm sure we did i hate man i hate how much just like knickknacks cost drives me crazy it that
thing does nothing table balls it cost more than two dollars it was a waste of money where do you
think it was from if you had to guess i hope it's from value village and i hope some other idiot paid
two hundred dollars for it and i paid two dollars for it ceramic rhino what were you saying ages ago
with a super expensive table balls uh what about them i was just saying i hate that
that there was a whole rant months ago about yeah just i think it was just basically this like
like knickknacks it drives me crazy how much they cost oh was it the bit about how uh i think the
whole thing is just a conspiracy where designers um buy this stuff because they get a commission
for for the project based on how much they spend total so they'll just pad it with like stupid line
item things that are like just an overpriced glass ball that they spend 400 on so they make 40 bucks
um i'm not sure because we used to know like one of those interior designers oh and some of this stuff
just is like expensive i mean the thing is you go to like home sense or something like that and it's
an 80 table ball okay but like this interior designer was like well we went to an artisan who would craft
a table ball and it'd be like 300 bucks sure i mean it's not like i don't understand that things
are expensive i mean you're talking to the person who made a solid gold xbox controller i get it yeah
but that's a little bit different than like a knickknack that's an art piece if you want to think
about it that way i think of it as more of an investment i don't think of it as i made a solid
gold xbox controller i think of it as i bought some gold so that's my justification for that as for
like the artisan table ball made of glass or whatever i don't know about you guys i don't know
how to justify it i couldn't find this rhino but i did find a six thousand dollar rhino oh my god
how tall is that it's 24 inches tall it's it's like what is that four feet long it's by france
by france good job country what yeah what the heck let's go up a first cursor up here right up up
left oh wow by france yeah france france made it good job france look at the other i love it what is
this oh it's eight thousand dollars what is that i had wow all right so this is the type of stuff that
they would put in your house i had a blast um there is a there's a second hand shop okay someone
at a partner sent me this couch brand that they were like man it'll change your life you sit on this
couch you're never going to want to sit on any other couch and i'm like knowing you um this couch
is stupid and granders like you're not even close dude 40 grand probably closer to that range anyway
um this couch company is so far up their own they already look like it the store in vancouver
the store in vancouver luke does not have a sign on it ah yep it if you don't know where it is and
who they are i've been to this store you don't deserve to be there anyway so it looks very comfy
they had like they had like a 12 000 bean bag yeah i think it was hand knit or something yeah that
doesn't surprise me anyway the point is not this the point is that i went there for fun because
there's no way that i would spend that kind of money on any couch it could give you an orgasm
every time you sit on it and i wouldn't buy it there's other ways to get that and they're cheaper um
but i went there just to check it out to humor to humor my questionable reason
reusability factor to humor my contact danger of the cheaper ones yeah the number of people that
say laundering when they see stuff like this it's like no no that is actually just their business
it's not not everything is money laundering it's just like how people will just cry like tax write
off no it's not how that works anyway um so i went just to just to just to know what a couch that
costs as much as a whole vehicle a new one yeah um would be like really nice couch great it looks
very comfy but what i had the most fun with was actually the secondhand store a few doors down
okay if you're telling me i can get that comfy of a couch there for cheap i'd be happy while i was
there uh hold on or is this one of those like crazy expensive secondhand stores it was a secondhand
store for things like those couches okay yeah while i was there i found this
i'm excited
it's a lamp okay in the shape of a horse all right
it costs i can't see it six thousand five hundred euros euros oh and it is
oh my god how are their pictures so bad
hold on 95 how is how are these their only pictures you don't need to see it you do need
to see it it's the size of a horse oh wow it is it is a horse-sized so you also have where the
would you put this well you also have an enormous mansion that you need to fill with things i guess
so i would i would if i owned this i would put it at the bottom of my pool
just because you can yeah
i mean that that would be reasonable you can scuba dive inspect your nine thousand dollar horse lamp
five-year warranty though nice oh man sweet yeah so it weighs 120 kilograms so that's about 250 pounds
whoa it is 2.25 meters high so that's about seven feet
it's enormous man this place just for a trip go on a date go down to chinatown okay get some food
yeah go with the missus just go hang out in this store for a bit hey do you want to see how
people live just play the how much do you think this cost game and you just like keep score bring
a little notepad and then play prices right rules and see if you guys can just just have some fun it's
actually fun it's a blast so i think the 100 gex song is just about that lamp
so uh to give you some idea of where it is um yeah it's it's definitely it's definitely it's kind
of uh east of chinatown southeast of gastown uh and it's called oh man no that's not it might be i
think it's this one um
oh no this might not be it
oh this one's in the heart of it yes yes yes yes here it is here it is okay i've got it it's
called carriage house affordable luxury yeah that horse was like half price
uh if i was if i was more of an idiot i'd be like wow what a deal and i would buy it um
um so they are vancouver's premier luxury furniture store which is not actually quite
right because they're actually this an upscale consignment boutique so if you're not familiar
with consignment basically you drop off your thing and then the price goes down down down down down down
down down the store handles this for you until it sells and then they keep some percentage and they
give you some percentage so obviously uh it's in their interest to curate the items in the
store to make sure they're offering a variety and it's in your interest to have it sell presumably at
the highest price possible so it's almost like a reverse auction where it starts high and then
goes low low low low low until it sells or until i think you like come back and get it so it's kind of
like a classy pawn shop um man it's just that horse would be a great way to get people in the door
freaking wild though dude like i don't know we should we should get that horse and put it in the lobby
these lamps aren't that bad i mean more than i would spend on a lamp ralph lauren lamp why is there
a ralph lauren lamp i don't know because yeah it doesn't look dude i don't know it looks like someone
put a lamp head on like a tripod like it looks like it has the three legs connecting nine hundred
dollars here you go camera tripod that doesn't look good well you get two though they're half price
yeah two but like i'm not even trying to like if that was fifteen dollars okay show me a lamp that
you think looks good i don't know google lamp and you'll probably find better looking lamps than these
let me let me google lamp what a hater hey i immediately found multiple better looking lamps and
i haven't even like clicked in on it like what do you mean yeah there's a christy projector lamp
who doesn't like that a bunch of these look super cool they're also really expensive these are very
lighting is flipping lighting is really expensive they know where you've been shopping for the last
five minutes also probably that that's probably a thing but here we go look this is a cheap lamp that
looks cool it doesn't have enough animals in it it's not a horse it means more tessellation
i like things that are tessellated like it's 2009 so you'll know that i've completely gone off the rails
when i own that horse lamp that's your that's your uh canary in the coal mine yeah is you buying that
horse lamp yeah what if we 3d printed you lost it i'm looking at some very large format 3d printers
why uh obviously for content okay four feet tall yeah i'm into it yeah we could do
whoa we could do a minute we could do a shetland lamp
oh my goodness um i'm 3d bringing a horse okay the last merch message is uh wan dll what was the
hardest decision to make in 2023 that in hindsight should have been simple um letting the wan show go
for four hours at a time it's just so obvious now how long has the show gone on today four and a half
hours all right how was it get the how was it so short before i don't know what did we even do
differently i don't know you spent an hour and a half on the first topic well way to go dan yeah it's
dan's fault yeah technically look what you've done yeah i regret nothing we'll see you again next
nothing same bad time same bad channel bye nothing
all right