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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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What is up, y'all? Welcome to the WAN Show. Come one, come all, enjoy the best technology show that's live on the Internet right now, hosted by me and Luke.
Yes, that's very specific, but I didn't want to risk offending anyone.
For all I know, you know, Wendell or Jay's Two Cents or someone like that could be streaming at the same time.
And I don't want them to feel like I think that Luke and Linus are better or whatever the case may be.
We've got a lot of great topics for you guys today, including Intel's newest lake, that is their newest processor detailed for the first time.
And actually, you know what? That's not going to be a main topic because it's not nearly as interesting as Intel Arc.
And of course, no, I do not mean Intel Arc, the product specifications database where you can look up, you know, how many gigahertz things have generation by generation.
That's boring stuff. I'm talking Intel Arc graphics. That's right. We've got a bunch of new information for you.
Also, OnlyFans hurts itself in its confusion by banning sexually explicit content starting in October.
How did this happen? We're going to dig into it and we're going to talk about some potential solutions for users and creators who are going to miss that.
Well, OnlyFans being what it like actually is. What else we got today?
You stole one of mine, but Halo Infinite won't ship with co-op massive disappointment or forge large, but not quite as large disappointment.
Absolutely ridiculous. That's actually like not not stoked on the non co-op.
Not going to lie. I feel like I am constantly, constantly searching for co-op games.
And Halo has, except for I think once, been very consistent about having co-op and then just nope.
Also, there's a gigabyte response, but I don't know how long that's going to take.
I don't think that's it's pretty funny, actually. Gigabyte response in their previous response, because they've already responded once.
I don't think so. Yeah, but it's just funny because they did it again.
We'll talk about it. All right. Yeah. Let's roll that intro. Yeah.
All of what Chad is already talking about.
Well, yeah, obviously it's like insane. The show is brought to you today by BuildRedux.com, Elgato featuring their face cam and SeeSonic.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I think you guys want us to talk about the OnlyFans situation.
So why don't we jump right into that in a massive shock?
OK, you know what? Hold on a second before we talk about it. I am going to go to OnlyFans.com.
OK, I'm going to OnlyFans.com. I'm not going to share my screen because I don't want to I don't want to end up, you know, getting my Twitch.
OK, hold on a second. There's an there's an SMS code. We do have an account, as you guys may or may not know.
We had our own OnlyFans for a short period of time.
I'm going to go see if it was sent to the number. That is a number that I can that I can access.
Is this a new one? OK. Yeah, I think I got it. OK, verify code.
OK, now only. Oh, wrong code. Oh, shoot, it didn't.
Oh, since when does copy paste not work out of TeamViewer? TeamViewer called at seven this morning.
Seven o'clock in the morning this morning. And what did they want to know, Von? They wanted to know why we don't subscribe to their subscription.
They it was at seven thirty in the morning. They wanted to know if we're still using their service.
And hold on. They want to know if we're still using their service and if we want their subscription based their subscription based service instead of the one time one that we bought.
And a one time one. My answer to them was, well, I didn't answer them because my my wife picked up the phone.
But my answer would have been off because I've told you guys not to contact me about this.
If I wanted a subscription based TeamViewer, I would buy a subscription based TeamViewer.
I bought the one time TeamViewer because that's what I think TeamViewer is worth.
A one time a one time fee. I paid them like seven grand or something like that for the number of seats that we have.
It's perfect. It's exactly what we need. And I never want anything else. Stop talking to me.
Yeah. What are you looking up? So I'm trying to I'm actually kind of trying to figure out like how only.
OK, so. All right. Right. Right. So OnlyFans is the theory, I guess, is that they are not strictly a pornographic website.
Right. Because when OnlyFans when OnlyFans was founded by, if I recall correctly, a like an adult content mogul,
when OnlyFans was founded, it was not necessarily targeting just adult content.
But what I'm trying to figure out right now is how to even navigate this website.
OK, I am screen sharing now. If I go to home, it's just is it just my home?
I don't honestly speaking know how to use this website.
What are you trying to find? Anyways, what are you going?
I'm trying to demonstrate that OnlyFans is going to be fine without sexually explicit content, Luke.
Oh, I want to try to find not sexually explicit content on OnlyFans.
And I can't even honestly speaking, I cannot even figure out how to use.
Well, do they even have discoverability? You'd have to go from a content creator that is that is not based on sexually explicit things and get to their page that way.
Right. How would I find one of those? I mean, you'd have to, I think, find their Twitter or their YouTube video or whatever it is that they're so discoverability.
Forget it, then forget it. Starting in October, then OnlyFans will not allow creators to post material with sexually explicit content.
Nude photos and videos that comply with OnlyFans policies are still allowed and OnlyFans will provide more guidance on those new policies at a later date.
The company made a statement explaining the decision that basically said, this is a quote, effective first of October 2021.
So there's not even a ton of notice on this. That's less than two months.
OnlyFans will prohibit the posting of any content containing sexually explicit conduct in order to ensure the long term sustainability of the platform and to continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans.
We must evolve our content guidelines. Creators will continue to be allowed to post content containing nudity as long as it is consistent with our acceptable use policy.
These changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers.
We will be sharing more details in the coming days and we will actively support and guide our creators through this change in content guidelines.
Now, here's something that I am kind of wondering about. I don't see anything about this in our notes here.
Oh, no, I do. So creative creators on OnlyFans have earned more than four point five billion over the past five years.
Billion. They had two billion dollars in sales last year when they're on pace to generate more than double that this year.
They keep 20 percent of that sales figure. That is four hundred million dollars in revenue.
Have you ever used OnlyFans service? They could not possibly have more than a couple dozen developers.
No offense, OnlyFans. Now, a lot of that money is going to go towards.
Well, yeah, not as much as you think based on a few things, but we can get into that in a moment.
But yeah, it's going to go towards payment processors, infrastructure, stuff like that.
But sorry, keep going. Sure. But in order to ensure the long term sustainability of the platform, if I had you kick off all your people,
if I had four hundred million dollars a year in net revenue, I think I I think I'd probably figure out how to be how to be sustainable without turning off the thing
that makes my entire website tick. Now, there have been plenty of ads recently for non-adult content on OnlyFans.
OFTV is an app that is a safe for work alternative to the main site free of sexually explicit content and launched last week.
Now, back in and back talking about their revenue. They have more than one hundred and thirty million users paying monthly fees.
That is an utterly mind blowing number. And many sex workers are claiming that this is their primary source of income and that they will be temporarily out of work while searching for a new platform.
Anthony left a note in here, a sex worker that I've been in contact with since the April Fool's video says they are moving to just for fans, which is specifically run as an adult site.
It's significantly smaller. So it'll be a major loss in income while the platform comes up to speed.
But it's pretty obvious that this is not going to be a unique story and there's going to be a huge amount of momentum shifting away from OnlyFans and towards alternatives like just for fans.
Now, with that said, can we think of any examples of sites or services that have managed to pivot from being predominantly sexually explicit content to something else?
Let's say Tumblr, for example. How'd that go?
Luke, do you use Tumblr? Do you use Tumblr these days?
I have never used either of these platforms, which doesn't help, but we have quite a bit of numbers on the Tumblr change.
And we know that not only was Tumblr already going down, which is quite different in this case because OnlyFans is rocketing, going hockey stick, as Linus likes to say.
But Tumblr was consistently dying when they made their change and then just incredibly accelerated that decline.
So pretty rough. A year after the ban in 2018, site visits had dropped.
Site visits had dropped by nearly a minute. What? Average monthly log in page traffic by US visitors dropped by forty nine percent.
Average daily users dropped by thirty five percent. That's all for Tumblr. That's really rough.
Honestly, not as much as I had expected based on how people talked about what Tumblr was, but still pretty rough.
And you do have to consider that they were already on a decline. So some of that drop was like to be expected.
But that was a bit quite a bit sharper than than you would have expected from Tumblr.
There's some interesting stuff here. OnlyFans specifically said these changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers.
That's a little bit wider than than my understanding. But there's a post I'm going to put it in the doc.
I was grabbing this right as we were getting ready and I didn't have time to get it in there.
I will put it at the bottom of this so you can see it. There was a post back in April 15th of this year.
That MasterCard was making pretty big changes that will impact the entire adult entertainment industry.
And I think this is it. So the changes that are going to that we're going to impact tube sites that included Pornhub X videos and fan sites,
including OnlyFans, Just for Fans, Fan Centro, et cetera, are this list.
Enter you. These are all requirements. You enter into a written agreement with any individual that is contributing content to the website.
This includes the individual's consent, their identity and age. Seems like a good idea.
Does seem like a decent amount of paperwork, but that's probably already in place for OnlyFans.
All persons depicted in content must give consent for the content to be distributed and downloaded.
That I doubt was already a thing. Not impossible, but a decent amount of extra paperwork, age and identity of all persons depicted is required.
Again, I doubt that was already a thing, but probably not impossible. A lot of paperwork again.
Only verified users can be permitted to upload content. I believe that is a thing.
That's already a thing on OnlyFans. It's actually a very onerous process to get verified.
Yeah. So I believe that is a thing. This is the big one.
And I think this was the big problem one. A lot of these policies seem good and honestly, in a lot of ways, so does this one.
It just seems very difficult and extremely expensive.
All content must be reviewed prior to publication or real time if it's live streamed.
So you'd have to have someone sitting there watching the live stream and no content can violate the card,
brand, BRAM, business risk assessment and mitigation policies.
I'm not 100% sure what those are. Other things include that one's the big one.
Other things include website must have a compliant process for reporting, review and removal of violating content.
Must have policies in place to make sure that the website cannot be used for human trafficking.
Seems like a good idea. Provide monthly reports to the acquirer of flagged content and what was taken down.
And no search terms or marketing partners can give the illusion that the content they are marketing will contain child exploitation materials or depictions of non-consensual activity.
A lot of those seem good, just like things that maybe not all of them does Onlyfans do.
And the all content reviewed prior to publication or real time if it's live streamed thing sounds very expensive to do.
And especially when your take is 20% and you have payment processor fees on top of that and infrastructure fees and on and on and on and on and on.
So, yeah, it doesn't sound impossible.
But it's not like MasterCard said, you can't do this anymore. They just put a really big wall in the way.
And what's problematic is BRAM, I'm not sure how they how they pronounce that.
Here's MasterCard's own. This is an unlisted video, I think, or maybe it's not unlisted.
I don't know, whatever it's here. So here's the video that MasterCard put up.
And what it is is business risk assessment and mitigation.
So this is about preserving the strength and value of the MasterCard brand.
Basically, what they're saying is that you are now liable for making sure that any payment that you process using MasterCard and you can't control what credit card your user is going to use to an extent.
Any payment is going to be for something that it will not damage the the the strength and value of the MasterCard brand.
And so they've got all these they've got all these guidelines for what that means.
Now, I think it's very telling that the obvious solution to this isn't crypto.
And that really it kind of shows how far even though crypto has gone kind of mainstream to the point where my not super techie family is talking about it over Thanksgiving dinner.
The fact that no one seems to actually see it as a viable solution to this is is kind of is kind of mind blowing to me.
Yeah, now let's talk about if the solutions are so simple, right? Why doesn't someone like Floatplane just step in and fill this void?
So why, why, why can't Floatplane just become the new home for sexually explicit creators?
I mean, we've even got we've even got a really wonderful mock up here, Luke, of what that might look like.
This was made by I don't know if he wants to be named for this specific creation, so I'll leave him off of it.
But this was made by one of the Floatplane guys.
Yeah, the main reason right now and the reason why we will probably stay out of it long term is not that we have any issue with it, is that we're late.
To be completely honest, like Anthony had mentioned, his friend or acquaintance or whoever that is already has another platform that they're planning to go to.
These other platforms already exist.
I even mentioned in my statement a few different companies, including Fan Centro, Just For Fans, Many Vids, Loyal Fans, all this other kind of stuff.
They already exist.
There's also sorry, my voice, there's a Montreal company that makes the Montreal company named Bellessa that I believe already makes sex toys and already has a like our online explicit content streaming platform that is like really, really focused on on being ethical and all that kind of stuff already posed in their mission statement.
And they announced like it was like today or yesterday.
It was yesterday.
They announced yesterday that they're going to be pushing that platform towards like being the new OnlyFans.
There's a lot of players in the space.
It would take us a few months at least to hit the features that would be needed to provide a good experience for the users.
And also, honestly, when we were looking through the like MasterCard demands, a lot of those things we were like, yeah, we should probably have this.
Like, it kind of makes sense, like, because you want to make sure that you're not having exploitation and stuff on your platform, obviously, you want to make sure it's a safe space for people to do the things that they're going to do on it.
And a lot of those things should happen.
So that's a lot of features to dev because those aren't the same features that you need on Floatplane.
So it would take us quite a while to spin up.
And there's frankly, honestly, people that are probably going to be better at making that service than we are that are already on it.
So as of right now, not in the works.
So is this the end for OnlyFans?
I mean, Tumblr didn't die, right?
I guess that's fair enough, but is there a reason for me to use OnlyFans instead of something else at this point?
Because I thought that was the whole idea is that Patreon narrowed the scope of what they allowed in terms of sexually explicit content.
And then OnlyFans took off and then maybe there was a platform in between them that I'm missing.
But now OnlyFans is doing the same thing.
And it's a consistent story.
And I haven't looked into all these different platforms that Belleso won.
I checked out theirs and they do accept MasterCard.
I'm not sure what payment platform they're using, but I do know that they accept MasterCard.
So like that's interesting.
That being said, they're taking like one of their leading steps with this whole platform launch is that it's supposed to be ethical.
So maybe they are just matching all of the guidelines.
But like Linus said, there is still concerns there, so I'm not entirely sure.
But yeah, I think to get away from the governance of these credit cards and these payment processors, you'd have to go crypto.
Like we were doing some like theory crafting on like, OK, if we did this, how do we have to do it?
And ultimately, we'd like want to meet the guidelines that MasterCard laid out because they seemed actually a good idea.
But also, we probably wouldn't want to use them because they've consistently shifted goalposts and like changed things.
And yes, this time those were pretty reasonable ethical changes, but you don't know what it's going to be in the future.
And that like brand alignment thing is way too vague and just sounds like a gigantic trap.
So you don't want to have to deal with those types of things.
And the only way to get away from that stuff right now, ultimately, is to go to crypto, because if it was the payment processors, you could use a different payment processor.
But when it's the cards as well, it's from the user side and the platform side, and that's crazy.
And you don't know which brand is going to jump on next.
Like maybe Amex decides to do all the same rules.
So, OK, if you if you find a way to not take MasterCard, well, who knows how that's going to work long term?
We've seen this happen to a lot of different platforms.
So you'd have to decentralize. You'd have to go with something like crypto.
So, I mean, if none of these other platforms go to crypto, maybe there is space for us to jump in.
But as of right now, we have we have a lot of other things we're working on.
So, yeah, I had someone in the chat that's like upset.
We're talking about this, exposing people who look up to us to this kind of website.
I mean, to the end. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome to the Internet.
I mean, Luke and I are not we're not endorsing or not endorsing any of these platforms.
We are just this is technology. This is a this is a huge moment for online technology, whether you like it or not.
The the adult entertainment industry has been a driver for technology over the over the decades, actually, not not the years.
So that's what that's what makes this newsworthy from our point of view.
And the other sort of the other side of that is that, you know, you can you can have your moral outrage over OnlyFans.
And the answer is, OK, then don't use it. You know, we got a super chat from someone named August says,
I rely on my OnlyFans income to pay for cancer treatments. Can't work because of covid slash cancer.
Feel like my life is literally over and I'm terrified. You got to understand that for a lot of people, sex work is not sex work.
It's just work. It's and you know, you can you can sort of you can have a moral sort of standpoint where you go,
oh, but it's it's like worse or it's this or it's that or I don't know.
You can draw your line where wherever you you personally want to draw it.
But that's the thing. That's that's you. That's that's your personal line.
I mean, as a sex worker might say, you know, I'm sorry, you lift heavy things all day for money.
You are literally going to destroy your back for money.
To them, the idea of taking off their clothes and snapping a picture. Obviously, it's not that simple.
Cultivating a fan base is as difficult on OnlyFans as anywhere else.
In fact, maybe even more so because it's paid. I'm just saying, you know, if you want to oversimplify these arguments,
they could easily flip the script on you and say, you would you would legitimately destroy your body for money.
I mean, I'm only taking pictures of it. Yeah.
So, you know, whatever, guys, just remember that whatever whatever your whatever your personal sort of comfort level is with these kinds of services,
that's that's that's personal, like that's you. We're just talking about it from a technology standpoint.
I guess that's pretty much it for us. I mean, we're yeah, we're not going to make a play for the space for a variety of reasons.
You know, we just don't feel that we would have the tools in place in a timeframe that would make any sense to harbor these these people, unfortunately.
But the good news is that in our research,
we managed to find a number of other platforms that hopefully will be successful in doing that.
I know next to nothing about them. So if you're a creator on OnlyFans, I'm not endorsing any of these,
but there there are alternatives out there and you should probably check them out.
Also, yeah, there's another one someone posted a chat about.
It's called AVN Stars or something like that, to be clear.
I'm not saying to go to these sites at all, especially if you are, for whatever reason, not allowed to go to them.
But if you're a creator who is already in this space, you know,
I think it's time to do some shopping around, find some discords to join,
where maybe you can talk to other people who have experiences both positive and negative to share about these platforms.
And the more of you band together to find one that seems to be a good fit,
the better the chances that migration will happen faster and the users will find you.
Because it might be a time to diversify as well. Yeah, that's yeah, that's not a bad point.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with having, you know, YouTube memberships activated like we do,
as well as having a platform like Floatplane where you post behind the scenes and stuff like that.
Nothing wrong with diversifying your revenue streams at all from just a strictly business standpoint.
In the short term, something that has generally flown under the radar is if you cosplay while doing those things.
Just a tip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that tends to help a fair bit.
Callum says, personally, I feel this is very harmful to the sex work industry.
It seems like every legitimate and relatively safe avenue for sex workers is being blocked left, right and center.
It should be allowed and not stigmatized. I mean, I think there's a strong argument to be made for that.
Unfortunately, I'm not in a position where I can change anything about it.
All I can say is sex workers work. As much as we like to think that our approach would be the very good or potentially the best one.
Ultimately, it's a it's a big risk to spend many months developing new features and effectively a new platform.
Obviously, we'd be able to copy out the vast majority of the work over.
But it would be a pretty massive undertaking. And because we'd be really late, it would be a huge risk.
And there's there's platforms already out there and there's from like a I read a two paragraph thing on what that platform is on a list of alternatives.
They there's some that seem pretty promising. So hopefully those work out and we can just keep doing our thing.
All right. Why don't we move on to our next topic for today? Let's see. What's another big one?
Ah, yes. Intel ARK. Intel ARK is coming. Not to be confused with Intel ARK with a K.
This is ARK with a C and that is going to be Intel's branding for their new high end graphics cards that they claim are going to be competing with Nvidia and AMD.
The first ARK GPUs will be based on the Intel Xe HPG architecture with a GPU code name of Alchemist.
I like it. I like it. It's a good code name. It's a solid code name.
It'll have support for all the features that modern AMD and Nvidia GPUs possess, including real time ray tracing.
Intel's new AI accelerated super sampling or Xe SS is what they're calling it.
Apparently that'll compete with fidelity effects and DLSS, although fidelity effects is not an AI accelerated super sampling feature.
It's it's hot. Shoot. What?
Lanczos or how do you pronounce that? It's it's basically a different it's basically a different kind of anti aliasing.
They did a 1080p to 4K super sampling demo and it was performed in a slow moving environment without a lot of scenery changes.
So it looks promising, but also, I don't know.
We'll see. So here, let's go ahead and pull this up. Whoopsie doodles.
Let's go ahead and put that right there. Oh, yeah. Right there.
So does that look good? Yes. Yeah.
Looks really good. Looks really sharp. Not a lot of shimmering or anything like that.
But as we noted, it's really slow camera pans.
Yeah. And those are really not the most challenging situations.
Also, part of the whole deal with AI or machine learning based features is that it's dependent on how well they work is dependent on the data set.
Now, the way that it's supposed to work theoretically is that machine learning is supposed to be so powerful that it takes an enormous and diverse data set.
Right. And it and then it's able to use that to extrapolate and infer some some result.
Right here. I mean, what did Intel train this data set on?
If they trained it entirely on what these scenes are supposed to look like, obviously it would do a great job because it's not actually inferring anything.
It just knows exactly what these objects are supposed to look like at a higher degree of fidelity.
So that there's a lot of potential. I'm not saying they cheated. I'm just saying that there's it would be very easy to cheat.
So XeSS, their super sampling will have two versions, XMX, which is designed specifically for Xe GPUs and perform slightly better.
And DP4U, which uses common instructions on all modern GPUs and should work on more than just Intel GPUs and could even enable the feature for GPUs as far back as the GTX 1060 and 1050.
No word on actual performance metrics so far, but the Intel trailer shows ARK Silicon running Forza Horizon 4, Metro Exodus, Crisis Remastered and other games.
But again, no performance metrics whatsoever. Intel will be using TSMC's six nanometer process for Alchemist,
meaning it will have to compete with the other companies manufacturing chips at TSMC in terms of allocation.
So if you were hoping that Intel was going to be able to take their chip foundries and sort of put an end to GPU shortages once and for all, the answer is no.
They're going to be constrained by all the same industry wide factors as Nvidia and AMD. Still, though, still, though, having Intel come in as a scrappy startup.
It's kind of funny to talk about them in that context. But in the in the gaming GPU space, they will be having Intel come in as a scrappy startup and try to try to hopefully buy some market share.
Buy our love will be only it can only possibly be a good thing for consumers. And I am I'm extremely excited for the release, which I believe is slated for sometime in 2023.
Don't quote me on that. It's actually been a little while since I've double checked what the rumors are. Let's check that.
Let's check the road map here. Yeah, but that that that that that that.
Yeah, no, can't immediately find it. We don't have anything confirmed anyway. It's all just rumors at this point, as far as I know.
What else do we have? Ah, more Intel news. Intel's newest lake has been detailed for the first time. Official specs have been announced for Alder Lake.
This is the successor to 11th Gen Core Rocket Lake. It'll use the Intel seven process.
So this was previously 10 nanometer enhanced super fin. OK, fair enough. It's a heterogeneous big little architecture with the performance course featuring a 19 percent improvement in IPC over Rocket Lake.
That is actually a pretty big deal and could put Intel ahead of AMD when it comes to gaming performance, though only time will tell.
Efficiency cores are faster per thread than Skylake, which is pretty exciting. So even the low power like like crappy cores are still pretty decent.
And there will be three physical designs, eight performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 24 threads, six performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 20 threads and two performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 12 threads.
So only the performance cores are going to have Intel's hyper threading where they can process two threads per core.
They're going to run DDR5 at 4800 megatransfers per second.
Peak bandwidth increase of over 50 percent over the best DDR4 3200 memory.
Cool. PCI Express Gen five with up to 16 lanes coming from the CPU.
And then we're going to have four Gen four lanes for storage. Intel has apparently determined that Gen five lanes are not necessary for storage.
They're probably not wrong. AVX 512 support has been removed.
That's probably where some of that better IPC is coming from.
They're just not spending diarrhea on features that the vast majority of consumers will never touch.
And the TDP of the top end skew will be one hundred and twenty five watts.
Was this written by Anthony? It was because it's got five quotations on either side of one hundred and twenty five watts.
We've gotten to the point where Intel, AMD and Nvidia's TDP ratings of their chips simply cannot be compared against each other without just objectively measuring them in the real world.
Intel also detailed their thread detector or thread director technology and EMC inside the CPU.
So this will monitor each thread and its individual metrics of memory, load store power, et cetera, and provide data to the OS scheduler, which will decide where threads should go.
That's pretty cool. So processes could initially run on a PCOR unless they're full or unless they're on battery.
It could tell the OS which threads are best to move in on a like a 30 microsecond scale.
AVX prioritized for PCORs. If there are more threads than available PCORs, it will use efficiency cores before using hyperthreading because those like Skylake grade even like bad cores are still going to be pretty fast compared to putting two threads on the same CPU core.
And it can reduce the frequency if a thread is limited elsewhere in order to reduce power. That's pretty cool.
That's like actually super cool. So per thread, Intel is expected to be able to outpace AMD's Zen 3 processors.
But AMD's core count advantage could keep Zen 3 very relevant, particularly at the high end, although that assumes that AMD does nothing in response.
And they almost certainly will. I love Intel and AMD being at each other's throats.
This is the best thing ever. Actually, no, the best thing ever would be Nvidia and AMD being at each other's throats on GPU.
But right now it's basically Nvidia running the entire show and AMD being lucky to ship any GPUs and get any GPUs made.
As far as I can tell, they're basically I saw I saw a headline talking about how Nvidia prices seemed to have been falling a bit, but AMD ones weren't.
And I think a big part of that is just down to how many GPUs AMD booked with TSMC.
Kind of that simple. You know what, we should probably get. Yeah, we should get through our sponsor spots.
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All right, let's jump into epic copying Among Us's game mode and then just kind of quietly not giving any credit.
I mean, Fortnite imposters. Yeah.
Is this not the kind of thing where they could have just could have just collaborated with the Among Us team to put together a fun Fortnite mode?
You know, that's kind of similar to Among Us. They could have done, you know, in-game, you know, in-game skins and stuff like that.
Among Us costumes and stuff like that, giving kickbacks to the Among Us team.
If if Epic is trying to what even this is a terrible, terrible teaser trailer.
I'm getting rid of this. I mean, if Epic wants to shake that image that they have of just being kind of.
Terrible people who do the right thing sometimes. That's kind of what we that's a good way of saying it.
It's kind of what we were led to with the whole suing Apple and suing Google over their their crappy App Store policies.
If they're trying to shake that image, they got to they got to stop doing stuff like this.
It's not that you can't make I mean, that's art, right? It's not that you can't make derivative works.
You just you have to give credit where credit's due. You have to at least acknowledge it.
You have to you have to work with someone like Innersloth who Innersloth actually did end up calling them out.
You can't just kind of quietly hope that nobody's going to notice.
And the other thing, too, is like people that are surprised.
I find that very interesting because Fortnite literally exists because of this.
They just they copied PUBG, right? Like.
Yeah, being among us. Yeah, a little bit dramatic when Fortnite first pivoted from there,
like zombie survival game or whatever it even was at the start or something like that.
It was like a zombie survival building game where you had you like built during the day.
And I don't even remember single player at the beginning. I think it was multi.
I don't know. No one cared about that mode pretty much at all.
The game was like a failure. And then they copied PUBG and then it was gangbusters.
And now they're doing the same thing. They're just copying among us.
Like this is this is the same thing they did before. People were pissed last time and they're pissed this time.
Yeah, someone in full plane chat said epic is sus. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
It's it's like it's exactly the same thing, except the tasks and the emergencies are different.
But there's still tasks and emergencies and you're in first person instead of a top down view.
Even just the similarity of the map was kind of sus, I think the kids say.
Yeah, kind of sus. Yeah. And like, yeah, the map.
Yeah, I know among us has more than one map, but I feel like almost everyone plays a majority of their time on the first map.
And the first map is like, I believe, a spaceship. And just from I haven't played it, but just from watching the video, I'm pretty sure you're on a spaceship.
It's called imposters. The yes, this terminology is possibly used in the in the old more tabletop or in-person versions of this type of game.
But imposter is specifically a thing used in among us.
Some people have pointed out like, oh, well, among us is a rip off of those old board game style things.
I strongly disagree. Among us is very different. It's brought into a digital space.
It includes the tasks. The the killing of people is not done by pointing at them in a circle while everyone's like heads are down so they can't see.
Yeah, it's done in a gamified sense. Like it's it's a very different take on that type of game.
Yeah, like a mafia or werewolf, Secret Hitler type.
I mean, it's not like derivatives of this play style haven't existed for a long time.
It's that the the Fortnite imposters thing is barely even a derivative. It's essentially a refresh of tasks and emergencies,
which happens every time among us has a new map anyways. So that's not weird.
And then they made it first person like there's there's no secret sauce here other than the Fortnite user base.
Now, how would you compare this to something like League of Legends then coming in and basically, you know, ripping off Dota?
Just at that point in time, Dota was a mod.
I there hasn't been a ton of MOBAs that I would see as like a rip off of the original Dota format.
Since Dota two came out. Heroes of the Storm is very different.
The new Pokemon one, I think it's called Pokemon Rivals. I don't entirely remember, but the new Pokemon one,
which looks actually really awesome, but I haven't played it yet, but I plan to. Looks like she's Mr.
John Wick in chat gets gets really hyped up any time anyone mentions Dota.
But yeah, like those games are quite different.
League of Legends jumped into a space where there wasn't really a full dedicated version.
There was just the UGC user generated content version. There's Here's a New Earth back then.
But like, yeah, I don't know. I think that's different. I think that would be different.
Like if someone right now made a tower defense game that worked extremely similar to Wintermaul Wars,
I don't think anyone's going to go like, oh, you ripped off Wintermaul Wars because it was UGC, right?
Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I guess it's just becomes it becomes a much broader discussion of,
you know, at what point are you are you ripping something off and at what point are you adding your own special sauce?
I mean, I think that for you and me, we're just kind of looking at this going.
It doesn't appear as though Epic has added enough special sauce.
With that said, they clearly have something special in the sauce because Fortnite continues to be wildly popular in spite of the fact that neither of us has gotten into it.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if people if people love Among Us, but they're just kind of kind of sick of playing, you know, in 2D.
Yeah, Fortnite is probably going to win some users over with this.
And at the end of the day, I think it has been proven time and time again that no matter how evil or awful a company is,
people will continue to support them and continue to give them money as long as they continue to make a product that they want for a price that they can afford.
So here we go then. Also in the news to this week, Gigabyte has responded to the exploding power supply accusations, blames the media.
So basically, I'm just going to read Gigabyte's statement, then we're all going to laugh.
Gigabyte is aware of certain media outfits casting doubt over the quality of power supply models GP-P850GM and GP-P750GM.
We were made aware by third parties of concerns regarding potential issues of these models tripping at high wattages when tested via DC electronic load equipment for extended lengths of time,
repeatedly close to the 120% to 150% over power protection trigger point.
This level of extended testing could severely reduce the lifespan of the product and the components of these power supplies.
OK. The problem is that Gamers Nexus saw failures before excessive use, and many of them failed in two minutes or less.
Apparently nothing went more than 10 minutes. Gigabyte is offering to replace your unit if your serial number is within the proper ranges that they have decided.
And so I guess you guys are going to have to go check out the details on that. Let's see. Gamers Nexus. This is the video.
Does it stream tech have a link for how you can contact Gigabyte support here? Yes, they do have the serial numbers.
So anything from SN20343G031011 to you know what?
I'm not going to bother reading it. There it is. It's down there.
So if you have any serial number within that range, you can get a replacement.
And a big part of the reason so many people have these power supplies was due to the Newegg Shuffle.
And it kind of feels like to a lot of people that a kind of lousy product was being forced on buyers so that they could get a chance to get a graphics card.
Not that they would be playing Halo Infinite on that graphics card, because wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I love that segue. So I like apologize for taking that from you.
I'm sorry, but you got to check out the image I sent you on Discord.
This was posted on Reddit by user Instilled B.
I'm hoping they created it. I don't see credits for it. Very nice.
And it's just it's hilarious. And I feel like it's happening. So I wanted to make sure people saw it.
I mean, that's the thing. They got to understand Steve. He's like a dog with a bone, man.
He doesn't give up. It's not like your little statement is going to make the crappy power supply go away.
Like he's in the process right now of soliciting his community to send him these power supplies so that he can continue to test them and continue to demonstrate across a wider sampling of them that they are bad.
So, I mean, the truth will come out. And the good thing about Steve is that if he does ultimately discover that, nope, he just happened to get a bad batch.
I do expect him to to own that. So, yeah, I'll be paying I'll be paying very close attention to this one in the coming weeks.
Yeah. Halo Infinite will not ship with co-op or Forge.
Now, the Forge map building mode will launch in season three.
That's six months after launch. And I don't believe this is the first time that a Halo game has launched without Forge.
So, yeah, there won't be a Forge map building mode. OK, whatever. But co-op? Co-op's not going to be there at launch.
OK, it's coming in season two, which should release three months after the initial launch.
But come on. I guess it just means I'm going to have to I'm just going to have to wait a little bit longer.
Yeah. And maybe with season two, there will be a discount or something because I'm not buying it until it has co-op.
Like, I don't care. I yeah. This opens up a much broader discussion.
Like what features are OK for a game to launch without?
Like at what point do we switch from calling it, you know, a gold release or a game release and just start calling it MVP, minimum viable product?
Like, are we buying a game or are we subscribing to a service?
Clearly, Microsoft, what with Game Pass and all that, is kind of taking the latter interpretation of things.
I mean, the thing that I don't like really gets me is it's been quite a while, right?
It hasn't been an insane amount of time. We've I mean, Skyrim released of 10 years ago, basically.
And there's there's no real release date for Elder Scrolls six in sight.
But Halo five was October of 2015. Like you couldn't wait a little bit and launch with co-op.
Come on. I mean, the next logical step.
I mean, the whole like seasons thing is, you know, to me as sort of an old school gamer is kind of crazy.
And the next logical step is obviously putting content in temporarily and then it just goes away.
I think it was you, Luke, that I was talking to about a game that one of the float plane devs plays where there will be these enormous events that they run in game.
Was it not you where all that content just gets just gets wiped out?
Yeah. What game is it? And what is it called?
They're going to jump in in slack and tell me, I'm sure. Jonathan, it's the one you play and Yuki.
Maybe they don't want everyone to know that. I don't know. Oh, it's like maybe this will help the community.
It's a super weeb game that's like on desktop and on mobile. And it's it's it gets compared to Breath of the Wild.
Maybe I can find it with those search terms. It's not Genshin Impact, is it?
Yep. OK. Hey, yeah, that comes up if you search up weeb game Breath of the Wild.
Awesome. It worked. OK, I wasn't.
I was trying to I was trying to find the answer. All right. I wasn't trying to. Yeah.
But yeah, I don't remember what event it was, but one of them was talking about a really cool event that the game had and then it disappeared.
And that's the thing. I mean, just playing Rocket League, there's been some temporary events like there was a there was a Ghostbusters Halloween.
Nick just said Genshin Impact. That's what you said, right? Yep. Yeah.
There was a Ghostbusters Halloween event that was so much fun, but it only lasted for like two weeks or something.
Right. And then gone forever. If you happen to like have a life and have to do something else for a little bit.
That's it. You're done. You missed it. Don't get to play it. You're out.
Just like if you don't get the color you want right away, you might miss it.
You're done. You're out. LTT store lanyards are now available in a wide variety of colors.
Nine ninety nine US dollars. LTT store dot com. It's a perfect time to order a lanyard so you can also get one of the new spout lids for the LTT water bottle.
They are a big improvement over the old ones because they have a little like drinking spout and all that.
Also, if you buy a spout and a water bottle at the same time, we still have a promo running where the spout lid is just five bucks.
So go check it out. I've actually been rocking the pink one for a little while. Saw a couple of YouTube comments asking me about that.
Hey, what's up with that pink Linus Tech Tips lanyard? It's because we had a whole bunch of new colors coming and I wanted to kind of test drive them.
These things are absolutely like bulletproof in terms of the quality of the stitching.
It's all metal in here. It's one of those ones where I just I look at it and I go, I don't understand why cheap lanyards even exist, because even really nice lanyards are really cheap to make.
So, hey, this is a perfect time for us to appreciate the wonderful color selector and all that.
Look at that. Now, hold on a second. Did we like Photoshop these to change the color?
No, we actually took individual pictures in the same pose of every single color of lanyard.
That's so it's so meticulously specific.
Now that is attention to detail, ladies. While you were talking about that, I had already been like skipping through them being like, are these the same?
Yeah, no, they're not. They're not. That's pretty funny.
All right. Good, good work, team. Good work. I actually do think that is a good use of time because you should do things properly or do them not at all.
What's the point of having a picture of different colors of something if it's not actually a picture of it in that color, if it's just a Photoshop representation?
Nick says Hoffman number one photographer XD. All right. Another thing Linus was talking about, if things go out of stock and LTT store,
if there is something currently out of stock or in the future, if there's something out of stock,
we now have back in stock notifications that can be specific to the size and color or variant.
So like if it's one of the plushies, for example, it might not be a size or color thing.
It might be a variant thing. So you can get a specific back and stock notification for that specific type of thing that you want.
So if something runs out on LTT store, sign up for that notification and you'll know when it's back.
All right. Let's do some super chats here. I had a few people asking me before the show over on float plane about Colton's tattoo.
They asked, is it actually real? Yes, he actually tattooed.
So you know why he tattooed LTT store dot com? Because that wasn't part of the challenge.
Do you know why he did? Because you pay for a tattoo artist time by the hour we paid for a full hour and she was done in 45 minutes.
And he was like, well, I want to make sure I get our full money's worth here. What else should I get in 15 minutes?
So we like scrambled, got a temp, got a not a template, a stencil printed out.
And she went to town, got it done. I'm sitting here going like. It's not even your money.
Like I paid for it. I would have been perfectly comfortable with you just getting the one that you actually threw the dart at.
If you guys don't know, Channel Super Fun is back. And the first video up is a tattoo sort of it's a combination of things.
Yeah, there's there's tattoos involved. We end up pranking the wives and such and such.
Yeah. So it's it's pretty good. It's pretty fun. Me, Dennis and Colton having a pretty good time there.
Oh, man. Yeah. Love it. So go check it out. Make sure you don't miss it. We've also got some super chats to go through today.
Dr. Q says, screw only fans. Give Anthony a Linux channel. I guess that's responding to the title of this video.
Oh, you know, what we are going to have is a Facebook is sponsoring a series of live audio rooms over the next little bit.
And there's going to be one that I'm hosting with Wendell next Friday.
That just that just reminded me of that. So make sure you don't miss that.
Callum says, oh, wait, I already went through that one. Adrian says, LTT car channel when?
I mean, right now, we just put the car videos on LTT and on Short Circuit.
And that's, I think, what we're going to do for the for the near future anyway.
Ultra Nero says, with the Galaxy Fold 3 launching, I was curious about the longevity of the device.
Would it survive three to four years of use? What if I was careful with it?
Three or four years out of a phone all comes down to how you are using it.
Are you being careful with it? I mean, I think that there's a solid chance. Yes, it could last three or four years.
I also think it'd be very easy for it to be dead in three to four months.
J. Dog says, Intel GPUs seem interesting. Hopefully it'll make the market more diverse.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm hoping for. Honestly, I don't even care if they're the best thing ever.
I don't even care if one ever ends up in my computer, as long as they end up in someone's computer.
That's what we need. Andrew says, I have a Noctua NH-U9S, my CPU package at 74 on idle, 100C while gaming.
You might still have your plastic peel on there with idle temperatures that high.
Load temperatures being high, that is just because your CPU got a little toasty.
But if you have really high idle temperatures, like you're talking 44 degrees above ambient.
There's something wrong. It could be that it's not screwed down all the way.
It's not clamping properly. You can pop it off and have a look at the thermal compound.
And you can Google images for what it should look like when it's making proper contact.
Cat Herder Cam says, Gigabyte is denying RMA's inside that serial number range and their RMA site has been down since August 3rd.
I've been trying to return a borked mobo and they've told me there's nothing they can do until the server's back up.
No ETA. I had noticed some issues with Gigabyte's website as well.
What is up with that? There was some I don't think it made it into Docs, but there was some bigger stuff.
Like they had a malware takeover, I believe. Got it.
You keep doing those and I'll try to find the news on that.
GhostPotato says Among Us seems like it was inspired by Town of Salem, though the games are pretty different.
There's definitely a lot of similarities. That's fair enough. But as long as you're adding your own spin on it, I think that's that's what people are upset about.
And the other thing is just that Epic does so many collaborations with Fortnite.
Why not do it as a collaboration? Then it could have been a super positive thing for everyone, but instead it had to be not a collaboration.
Oh, not this time. I think that's where some of the anger is coming from as well.
Jordan Hardy says With all these games releasing as multiplayer only these days,
I'm actually pretty happy Halo is including the single player campaign at least and worrying about co-op etc later.
I mean, OK, that's fair enough.
There was actually yeah, I guess I didn't fully answer that question. There was a question posed at one point in time, which is like, what is acceptable for for this?
And I think Halo has potentially an issue of standing on the shoulders of its previously giant versions.
Yeah, but it has established that Halo like Halo grew because of couch co-op.
A hundred percent like, yeah, Halo two, Halo three popped off because of online original Halo. The reason why people cared about those games a huge amount when they when they launched was was because of couch co-op.
There was there's so much like if you look back at what made the original Halo games huge, it's it's undeniable.
So to not include co-op in the new version feels like a slight. That being said, a huge amount of modern shooters don't have single player campaigns.
And that sucks. I've always loved single player shooter campaigns and I've always loved that they have generally had co-op.
So, yeah, I don't know. I'm happy that it's going to include it eventually.
I'm sad that it's not there by default. Oh, here we go.
I'm curious what colors are most popular for the new lanyards. I actually want you to try and guess at this.
We've already sold a whack of them, so I've got it. I've got enough data.
I just want to get through a few more super chats and then we can we can go through.
I have a look at the rainbow of colors available and let me know which one which ones you think are most popular.
I've already made a guess. Oh, for number one, I think I've already made a guess.
But Vitor asks, when will be the next LTT expo? We're hoping for 2022, probably summer.
Thanks for the happy birthday wishes. Some of you, Callum says, oh, you missed my super chat.
Yeah, it's not in here. It's a stupid bug. I reported it to YouTube.
See, it's not. It doesn't go up high enough. I clicked the thing right before we started the show,
but then I didn't click it again right as we started the show.
So a bunch of them disappeared right as I loaded the tabs. So stupid.
Thanks, Larry Ganz. Misael says, Tesla robot, your thoughts.
Yeah, this was a topic in the doc. And the reason that I didn't end up talking about it was I just don't know what to say.
Like, yeah, in theory, it's cool. In theory, you know, terraforming Mars with a nuke is cool.
The issue is that Elon has made a lot of promises over the years that have not turned out to be a reality.
And I think it's great to have visionaries that are looking into the future and trying to make things happen.
But I also think we need to stop taking what he says at face value.
And we need to look at it as, you know, and more like, you know, more like a Kickstarter.
Right. So some Kickstarters end up being very successful.
I mean, the model, the Model 3 is by any measure a success as a product, as a movement.
You know, getting people to accept even the idea of consumer oriented, like real people, not just, you know,
luxury car buyers, like a real people electric car, like it's such an important product.
But a lot of what Elon's companies have delivered has not fully met the promises that he's made.
I mean, Starlink is another example of a huge success story.
So I think we just need to kind of run it through a Kickstarter filter.
We need to sanity check it. We need to not get our hopes too high.
Like we need to set our expectations reasonably.
Sorry. Contain the hype. Yeah.
Until it actually lands. Yeah. I mean, when they actually deliver.
I mean, you look at what Boston Dynamics is doing with their robots. You guys see that parkour video?
Unbelievable. But then you see Tesla's mock up and you kind of go, yeah, you're not going to be able to like Boston.
We already know Boston Dynamics is one of, if not the leader in that space.
They're way bulkier. They're heavy. They're like and Tesla's mock up.
Just it looks like a mock up. It looks like fantasy.
And until they actually deliver something with that, that level of functionality and performance.
I it's just, you know, I'll wait for the stage demo and hopefully, you know, the the window doesn't smash or whatever.
Right. Yeah. The gigabyte thing, by the way.
Yeah. It was posted on August six.
Apparently they got hit by ransomware by the Ransom X gang and they took one hundred and twelve gigabytes of business data.
And they said they were going to release it on the dark web unless the company hit their ransom demands.
I'm not exactly sure how this story concludes, but yeah, it's just that.
Callum says it doesn't matter. It was missed. Just wanted everyone in chat to have a lovely day.
I love everyone. It's hard, but I've been there and we'll get through this love to all.
All right. Thanks, Callum. All right. So are you ready?
I want to know what you think is the top selling color of the new LTT lanyard.
You are not going to get it. No, no. Orange.
Not even close. OK, close. That's number three thing.
I thought orange or black. No, it is neither of those.
It's not pink, is it? Is it pink? You seem too excited for this.
It is not pink. Pink is kind of in the middle of the pack.
OK. Weird. One and two are both surprising to me.
At this point, I feel like I'm just going to go through the whole rainbow.
Is it white? Nope. That's almost dead last.
I mean, I can see that a white lanyard has the potential to get dirty.
We just want to talk as an option. Yeah.
Someone's going to want it because it's going to like match their favorite set of shoes or something.
Yeah. Or they might be the kind of person that has like multiple lanyards and actually like changes them out.
It's pretty easy to do, because especially with the construction of this one, it just like goes on to your existing loops.
So you just you could easily swap them out with your different outfits or whatever.
I don't know what people are into. I just brought up the colors so I could review it.
I thought I was going to nail it with either orange or black.
But let's go with the darker of the blues, because, yeah, that's number one.
Number one is royal blue, followed by purple, followed closely by purple.
They're almost tied. Really? Then orange, then acid green.
Whoa. I was not expecting acid green to be a popular one. It's very vibrant.
So, yeah, people are going for those like neon stuff.
Yeah, people are going for really, really bold colors. Acid green.
Oh, Nick said those three have been the most popular internally so far as well.
And you know what else is popular internally? Ending the show so Linus and Luke can both start their weekend.
Thank you guys very much for tuning in to the WAN Show. We will see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.
I feel like I've got to get me one of those sky blue ones to go with blue.
Oh, wow. This is a great question from Dustin Pierce that I missed.
When you get a hold of the Steam Deck, can you test it with the Mersize?
I forget how you pronounce it, but with the M cable to see what their hardware upscaling looks like.
Yeah, that would actually be a really great application for that.
And thank you for the review of the black LTT lanyard tech gizmo.
Bought it two years ago. It's held up great. Still looks new. Tempted to buy another.
Heck yeah. Oh, Nick asks if I will do a confirmation of the framework investment.
The answer is yes, I decided to go ahead,
but I'm going to do a full video outlining sort of all of my thoughts about it.
So it wasn't something I was going to do as a WAN Show topic.
But yes, I decided to pull the trigger yesterday.
OK, that's it for the show. Bye, guys. Bye.
This is weird. YouTube will not let me end the show.
Because I'm not logged in. Are you kidding me?
So you got Doc signed out at like the end. Unreal engine.
OK, wait.