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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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All right, so I believe we are live now.
Woo!
Hello everybody.
Wow, the lower third is not above you.
Now it is.
Hooray!
Anyways, we have a whole bunch of cool stuff including one entire full unit of a bucket
worth of E3 conference announcements.
We have R9 300 series release info stuff.
We also have the R9 Fury series release info stuff.
We have no performance benchmarks for you guys yet.
The performance embargo for Fury is lifting not yet.
I think it's under embargo when the embargo is up or maybe it isn't.
I don't know.
I guess you'll have to watch the show to find out or you could just Google it.
I guess that's fine too.
Also, there's going to be a $150 Xbox controller.
What could justify a controller that's worth half as much as the console itself?
I guess we'll find out.
And that's assuming that you think an Xbox is worth what they charge for it.
Are you rolling the intro?
Yes!
Man, I've got no idea what's going on.
Oh, I'm in a pretty narrow sliver there.
I've got to try not to lean out of my window.
All right, thank you to Linda.com, FreshBooks, and Squarespace.
Woooo!
Squarespace!
I like how the scene you're on says no guest because it's actually finally accurate because
get it?
You're long distance, but you're not a guest.
Anyways, that was terrible.
Right.
I am not a guest.
You're right.
You did very well.
Thank you.
I'm going to try the intro end so I can figure out where I should be because of my head.
You're fine.
You're good.
You're right in the right spot right now.
Maybe if you lean back slightly.
Lean back slightly and then a little harder.
I'm probably more improperly positioned.
I'm probably worse positioned than you are right now, so no big deal.
Have you read into any of the E3 news?
Yeah.
Any of the game announcements?
Okay, cool.
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
One of the ones that looks really cool to me, and I want to preface this with that E3
announcements are complete horseshit and we shouldn't really care at all about anything
that they said, but South Park, the Fractured But Whole, I really want to be excited about,
but I think is probably going to be garbage.
Because Dev by Ubi?
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I got a lot of friends who work at Ubi.
No, I don't.
That's why.
One.
I mean, it always kind of, it's like, how do I put this?
It's like if I came up with the concept of us having a great YouTube video and I have
you make it and it's really good, and then I'm like, wow, that was so successful.
Let's make another YouTube video.
I'm going to have someone else do it.
Where does this logic come from?
I get it.
Maybe the videos are busy or whatever, or maybe they are charging too much this time,
but like, come on, Parker and Stone.
You guys can afford it.
Figure it out.
Yeah, because South Park was received really well with Stick of Truth.
It was.
There were some development pitfalls.
It was not a smooth development process, but did you play the game?
No, but it's always been there like, I should probably play this and I will play it eventually.
Okay.
It is, wow.
Okay, aside from ones that I buy for benchmarking, which as you know, I can't play because the
save games will overwrite because games are ridiculous now.
That is, wow.
I don't know.
It's been years.
I paid $59.99 US for that game full price and I waited and waited and they didn't drop
the price and the reviews were great and Ed told me it was great and I was like, come
on, drop the price and they didn't and I bought it.
I paid full price and it was worth every penny.
I really enjoyed the game.
So I wanted, I'm doing it.
I'm doing that like, wow, I played the last one and it was great.
I really want to play the next one.
I'm doing it, but I'm not going to pre-order it and I'm going to wait for the reviews.
That's fine.
If you're like, oh, I'm excited.
I want to play the next one, but I'm going to wait until it's out.
I think that's completely fine because I'm super stoked to play Fallout 4, but I haven't
pre-ordered it.
That's right, because Bethesda has let you down recently.
They were my golden ticket.
Every time they released anything, it was fine and then it was like, oh, this goes online.
No, I hate you now.
We're done.
It was a personal insult to you.
It was.
It was.
I also, the Doom trailer looks like, oh, like it looks, it looks like cartoony level of,
you know, horrible gore, actual just like stupid fun, like kind of pain-killer-y.
So I'm really liking the Doom trailer, but I mean, when's the last time it did anything
worthwhile?
So, you know, I don't want to be a total jackass about it, but again, I'll be waiting for waiting
for positive reviews.
And then Rise of the Tomb Raider, oh man, I might even pre-order it because, okay, hold
on, hold on.
Can I, can I, can I sort of, okay.
I'm not saying to pre-order the Xbox version because it's not coming to PC until some indeterminate
amount of time.
Okay, so we'll kind of know what the game is all about because you'll see the Xbox version
first.
But, but Crystal Dynamics did a really good job of the PC port of Tomb Raider 2013.
I loved that game.
I really enjoyed it.
That but more of it, please, would be great.
And as long as they don't completely mess it up, then I'm, I'm in for, I'm in for Tomb
Raider.
I heard there's more Tomb Raiding this time.
Yeah, that would be good because there were what, like four, four optional tombs?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was, it was not even a very big part of
the game.
In other interesting thing, Elder Scrolls Legends, look, I don't think that's gonna
do much personally.
I would love to think it was going to do great, but just with, with the crushing force that
is Hearthstone.
Yeah.
I mean, Hearthstone was like, that's what Blizzard does is they just kind of do something
completely stupid that makes no sense.
Like yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna throw every, we're gonna throw all our weight behind
an MMO at a time when MMOs were like really nerdy and they like took it mainstream.
And now it's like, yeah, we're going to take a card game, which is already inherently nerdy,
and we are going to nerd the crap out of it by making it a digital card game.
And we are going to wreck everything.
Just because Blizzard does it doesn't mean that anyone else can do it, I think is words
to live by.
And speaking of Blizzard, Starcraft 2 Legacy of the Void, I am not particularly excited
about finally getting, so they're actually doing a mini series in between Heart of the
Swarm and Legacy of the Void, so it's called Whispers of Oblivion.
And I haven't actually played any of the Starcraft 2 campaign yet, embarrassingly enough.
I actually only even own Wings of Liberty.
So as much as I'm like way late on this, once they've released the whole thing, I'm gonna
just binge play it, because I really, I know I'm one of those disgusting people who legitimately
enjoys RTS storylines.
No, I do too.
I've bought multiple RTS games with zero intention of playing the multiplayer.
And thinking back on like Red Alert 2, even Red Alert 1, like I enjoyed the single player.
Supreme Commander was a great example of a terrible single player campaign implementation,
because basically you were just, it was just like an AI in a spot, and a tech tree.
Like there wasn't even a lot of scripted elements and stuff.
So it was just kind of bad, it was an afterthought.
But I really enjoyed it.
So whatever, screw you guys.
I like RTS single player games, I really do.
What else is on here that's interesting?
Assassin's Creed Syndicate, I've lost all faith in that series.
Have you?
I've done bad ones before.
Yeah, but I'm like relatively far behind now.
I guess so.
Because I haven't played, I did not play, I can't even remember the name of it, Unity.
I didn't play Unity, I didn't play Rogue, was it called?
And then now Syndicate's coming out and I know almost nothing about it.
I should try to catch up.
I've been, I was waiting for Unity for patches to come out for it to like fix itself.
Right.
I shouldn't say itself, for developers at Ubi to fix it.
Maybe it is now?
I don't know.
I'll try it again sometime soon I guess.
I don't really have a ton of time to play games these days.
I finally bought CSGO.
It was on sale.
It's always on sale.
Well whatever, it was on sale and I saw it.
So I want to play sometime.
Wait like a month or two and then yeah sure.
And then yeah sure.
Like right after a big sale, especially one that CSGO is on, but like any time CSGO goes
on sale at all, there's this like huge wave of hackers.
Oh.
Yeah.
So just kind of like chill for a sec and then sure.
Well alrighty then.
I wish I was kidding, but I'm not.
Okay.
Firewatch looks super cool and then there's the No Man's Sky conundrum.
I'm also super excited for XCOM 2.
I really liked XCOM 1.
I played the crap out of that game, so I'm really happy that's coming out.
Hopefully XCOM 2 doesn't have a game breaking glitch halfway through the very last mission
of the game when I'm like 32 hours into my campaign.
That would be really nice.
Firewatch looks super cool.
I'm worried about it for multiple reasons.
Basically it's a wilderness exploration game essentially and it's an indie game.
So those two things together scare me a lot.
So basically it's a massive expanse of emptiness because they can't afford to dev the assets
and environments.
No, we're not talking about No Man's Sky right now.
Oh, okay.
Oh, wrecked.
Oh, ow.
Oh, wrecked.
You're merciless today.
You even asked me what my highlights are and then you've just been crapping on everything.
Yeah.
Oh, oh my gosh.
Yeah, this isn't in the doc.
It's the Final Fantasy 7 remake, which I'm totally pissed off about.
Because you want 6, right?
Yeah, because why does 7 get all of this attention?
Why does everyone just have this massive erection for Final Fantasy 7?
It is not the best game.
I would argue that 6, well no, not I would argue, 6 is superior.
I would argue that 5 is superior and I could even make arguments for 9, although I don't
know if a lot of people would agree with me.
But oh, I've got people asking where I am.
Guys, I'm at Google headquarters right now.
I came down for a YouTube creator day and I was actually a panelist, which was really
exciting for me because it was only two and a half years ago that I was attending a similar
event in Vancouver as just someone in the crowd and watching the other panelists talking.
So it was actually super, like I had goosebumps and stuff, really exciting for me to be a
part of that.
It's really funny, during the panel, I'll get back to Final Fantasy 7, I'm not done
with that, but during the panel, Vessel actually came up and yeah, I kind of had to look over
at the YouTube guys, I was like, so well gee, it's funny you ask about that, actually
it's been great.
It hasn't impacted our YouTube views, it's been purely incremental audience building
and engagement and interaction, yeah, I'm liking it.
And you know what, the YouTube guys are really cool about it and respectful of what YouTubers
are doing to build their business and they've really started taking my feedback directly
about how we can work together for me to not need other video platforms as much.
Now that they actually talk to us at all.
Yeah, no, it's super cool, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay, okay, no, never mind, Nick is wrecking
me right now, he's like, well actually, Final Fantasy 7 is in the dock, it's in rapid fire,
it was broken out into its own topic because it is more than just a visual update, which
is something that they have done before, so it is an actual remake as opposed to just
replacing graphical assets.
So that always worries me actually, yeah, are they going to change how the game works?
Yeah, gameplay will be receiving an update, not just the visuals, so they're also bringing
the original, bringing an HD port version of the original game to the Playstation 4.
Anyway, back to Final Fantasy 7 not being the best Final Fantasy, I know I've covered
this on the show before, but I will cover it as many times as it takes until everyone
goes and plays Final Fantasy 6 for its superior storytelling and characters, because nothing
happens in Final Fantasy 7.
You could, you know that stupid, have you guys ever seen the Guitar Hero episode of
South Park?
Have you seen it Luke?
No.
Okay, well basically, Stan becomes a Guitar Hero rockstar by playing the game really well,
and you know, the stress of the fame of being a Guitar Hero leads him to try another game
called Heroin Hero, where he just runs around after a dragon in the forest shooting up heroin.
To me, that's Final Fantasy 7, you just run around and you chase the dragon the whole
time and then finally you find the dragon, it turns out he's not a dragon, he's like
an otherworldly being or some crap.
And it's not like that's the first time they've done that, in fact, spoiler alert, because
Final Fantasy 6 is a game that's worth playing, unlike the other one, spoiler alert, that
happens with one of the antagonists in Final Fantasy 6 too, and it's kind of a common theme
for Final Fantasy, but it just is, yeah, dumb.
That's kind of funny, the only Final Fantasy, people are going to stab me after I say this,
but the only Final Fantasy I've ever played is I think 8 and like 13 or something, and
I played like half an hour of 13 and was like, I don't like this, and I loved 8, and then
everyone hates 8.
So it's like, okay, whatever, I should probably go back and play 6 and 7 so I can join this
conversation.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't like 8 much, I'm trying to remember which one 13 is, I don't
know if I played that one, which one's the one with Tidus?
I can't remember, I'm showing my old schoolness right now, yeah, it's not 13, maybe that's
10, I think that's 10, I played 10, really enjoyed 10.
Anyway.
Some people in chat are saying that 8 was good, so that's cool.
Yeah, some people really enjoyed 8, I didn't like the combat system, but you know what,
I only gave it about 20 minutes, so I was probably pretty unfair.
I was pretty unfair to 8, I borrowed 8 from a friend, so it was one of those things where
I was either going to binge play the whole thing, or I was going to have to give it back
in the middle for him to finish it or something, like I only had it for a bit, so I was like
eh, do I like this, eh, not that much.
Not enough, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you needed the discs for that game, there was
like 6 of them or something, it was like, oh, new chapters, swap the disc out, oh, old
school gaming, the best.
I sat down to play a game the other day, and my girlfriend was like, do computer games
still, do you have to have the disc in?
And I went and showed her my Steam library and how it works, and I'm like, I can play
any one of these 400 games right now, I don't even need to put the disc in, it was awesome.
Did that impress her?
Did you impress her with your gigantic Steam library?
My extremely long and girthy list of games, yeah.
Oh, wow, Twitch Chat's freaking out, uh, they didn't know you had a girlfriend, apparently
this was the reveal.
What?
I've said it on the Wan Show before, they freak out every time.
Oh, alright, nevermind then, uh, alright, Twitch Chat just does things, yeah, the Twitch
Chat is the Twitch Chat, we love you guys.
The Twitch Chat always collectively knows and doesn't know everything.
So let's move on to our next topic, that last one was posted by Mech777, and I actually,
I never did this, I meant to do this, I'm copying the link URL right now, so that's
PC Gamer's roundup of a lot of the stuff that we were saying we were not excited about,
depending on whether it was me or Luke talking.
And for our next one, for our next trick, we've got South Korea, and this original article
here is from KoreaHerald.com announcing Giga LTE, the world's fastest LTE connection, and
what's really cool about this is a couple of things, so number one, it combines LTE
with WiFi connections, it offers a maximum download speed of 1.17 gigabit per second,
fifteen times faster than existing LTE, and four times faster than TriBand TE Advanced,
like this is some bananas crap here, so cool, ten times faster upload speed than TriBand
Broadcast LTE Advanced, um, but the really, really cool thing about this to me is the
fact that the S4, or excuse me, the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge are already compatible, with
Samsung launching, I think they said five to six more mid to high end phones before
the end of the year, along with some LG electronics handsets that will be compatible with this
technology, people on the planet before the end of the year will be using gigabit connections
on their phones.
That's ridiculous, that's so cool.
What the hell, Canada?
Yeah, we're doing a little rough, did I ever show you my data usage from the Computex trip?
Uh, no.
It was an unlimited H plus SIM, so by the end of the trip I think I was at like 16 gigabytes
used.
Sick.
And how much did you pay for that?
25 bucks.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Just ridiculous.
And like we, Brandon and I kind of realized part way through, because when you're in the
States and you have your Verizon SIM and it's unlimited data, but only the first whatever
is actually LTE.
Yeah, and we have an interesting news topic about that later, you guys, by the way, throttling
unlimited times.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
That'd be cool.
But on that one you can't tether.
So part way through I was like, I wonder if it'll work, and I just tethered to my laptop
and it works.
I was like, oh yes, and then that day the data spike is just massive.
Nice.
Nice.
It's like this is so great.
Someone sent me a picture of his usage of like 500 and something gigabytes in one month
on his data connection.
Wow.
Because he has unlimited plan.
I'm assuming he connects it to his computer and like does all the things, but still ridiculous.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I mean, to be able to do that is something that we can only dream of here.
Here's an interesting thing.
I just sent you a link in our chat here.
If you want to go ahead and fire that up, zoom in on the lower mainland.
I can't.
Can you send it in hangouts?
Oh, yes, I can.
In fact, I already did.
You didn't see it in hangouts, so that was why I tried elsewhere.
Bring that up, because here's what I want to know.
It's a map of cellular tower locations in Canada.
And you can actually sort it by the major, the big three carriers up here.
And what I observed about the lower mainland in particular is that while Rogers and TELUS
have tons and tons of towers, like it's absolutely bananas how many towers they have.
Bell has very few and yet their reception here is really good.
Like have you noticed that?
I haven't noticed it being worse than TELUS.
So if they just have like a few awesome towers, then why can't I have gigabit connections?
Yeah, really?
That's what I want to know.
Come on, Bell.
It's only like 15 towers.
Make it happen.
Well, you look at for people watching, look at the difference between say Rogers or even
TELUS.
Man, TELUS's coverage of Alberta is just nuts.
You can really tell where they're focusing their business in on by looking at this kind
of a map.
Like Bell in the east is supremely bananas and then in Saskatchewan it's just a black
hole.
And then TELUS, I mean that makes a ton of sense because they used to be B.C. TEL, then
when they expanded to Alberta, they became TELUS.
So they're almost entirely western focused.
That makes sense.
And then Bell's like trying to capture the territories up north, which is actually rather
interesting because it doesn't look like Rogers or TELUS are up there.
Very cool stuff though.
I had actually just stumbled across this because I was trying to figure out why, and this is
kind of related, why our Bell reception at the new office is not very good.
And it turns out there's a tower like right nearby.
So I'm not sure what the deal is.
It could just be the concrete building and the metal roof and that's just life.
I think it's the building because there's pretty okay reception just outside the door
and then you walk in and you're screwed.
It's okay though.
We have a plan.
It's not cheap.
Like everything about this freaking new office, but we are getting a booster that will make
it so we've got an antenna outside on the roof and then we'll have a booster for the
inside.
We'll actually have three antennas internally.
There you go.
So that's the plan.
Anyway, good on South Korea for caring about super fast mobile internet and stuff.
Moving on to our next topic here.
This was posted by Mage Tank.
I'm going to go ahead and copy.
Mage Tank.
Mage Tank.
That sounds awesome.
The most overpowered class that ever existed.
The Mage Tank.
I would love for like the Linus Tech Tips game to have a Mage Tank class.
It should.
And you just kind of, you just kind of automatically win.
Like only one person per team gets to be Mage Tank.
So there'll always be only like two on the board, but that, that could actually be kind
of cool having like a completely OP but limited in terms of how many people can play at class.
So you have to like, like the rest of your team kind of has to protect the Mage Tank
even though it's a tank.
Yeah.
Because you want to survive because it's also a Mage.
That'd be, that'd be kind of cool.
Yeah.
And like the Mage Tank should basically be able to kind of roll anyone other than the
other Mage Tank.
I'm sure someone's done this.
But the Broadwell Core i7 5775C has gaming performance on par with Haswell.
And the original article here is from Maximum PC.
They've got a whole bunch of really good information about it.
More importantly than almost anything else is the information that Broadwell desktop
was super duper late.
It's late.
It's a, it's, it's, it's a refresh at a smaller process node of an existing Haswell architecture,
you know, processor series.
So performance improvements are, you know, we, we got, we got something small, but the
frequencies are actually lower out of the box.
So the performance is pretty darn near the same, except it's got way better onboard graphics.
So if you're into that sort of thing, then onboard graphics performance is great.
It's got a lower TDP if you're into that sort of thing, which I guess is cool.
It goes from 84 watts to 65 watts.
The good news is that C, which is for Crystalwell, the Intel Iris Pro graphics code name, the
C does not mean it's not unlocked.
So C class processors are still unlocked just like Ks.
I have no idea why after all the marketing Intel has done about K, why they're changing
that.
That's really silly.
Maybe someone a lot smarter than me could figure that out and tell me what C means.
Maybe they're like, well, sometimes they sound the same.
So it's cool, right?
Maybe it's C for clock speed increasing enhanced.
Clock speed awesomeness.
One thing that's pretty cool is as you can see on this chart that's on the screen right
now, it shows EDR, EDRAM, there we go, I can talk, slash L4 cache.
So if you're not using, if you're using a discrete GPU, that DRAM for your graphics
on your processor can be used as L4 cache.
Yes.
So that is a really cool architectural enhancement, which doesn't necessarily show up in like,
you know, Broadwell crushing Haswell performance right now.
But if developers kind of figured out and you know, there's all these things always
take time.
Developers, developers, developers.
Yeah.
If developers get on board with this and kind of go, Oh, hold on a second.
All of a sudden there's some, this like weird, even faster than system memory, but not quite
as fast as cache.
There's this like this weird in between if I can start leveraging that super cool, lots
of potential for it to, for that to make a big difference in terms of performance.
I mean more cache is never a bad thing with that said, I actually did a really interesting
article way back in the day for hardware connects because there was one period of time where
Intel actually had, I think it was either three or four processors that were exactly
the same spec for spec except for the cash level.
So they had a core two duo, they had a, at like an E 4000 series, they had an E 8,000
series and then they had something else and for gaming at that time it made no difference
at all going all the way from like a quarter as much cash to eight times as much cash.
I wish I could find the article cause it was really cool.
But they, there you go.
If someone, if someone finds it and posted in Twitch chat, it might not even be there
anymore.
Hardware connects cash, like there's going to be, yeah, I, I don't think I'm, I don't
think I'm going to be able to find it.
That's, that's a real shame, but I really hope that, I don't know if this is a publicly
announced thing, but you know what?
Now it is.
I really hope that we are able to wrangle a whole bunch of the same card because of
what you just said, you mentioned same spec and then wondering if the cash would be different.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
But what we want to do is check out, cause in a review that's coming out soon on a gigabyte
980 TI that we have a G1 gaming 980 TI, it's like, Oh, rated speed, boost clock, blah.
I don't remember exactly what it is.
And then what we actually got without touching it at all was way higher, I think like 70
megahertz higher or something.
And that's happening with cards all over the place.
And that's in a hot room too.
So like, I don't know how video's tested the bloody thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what we want to do, Linus actually proposed this and I think it's brilliant is getting
like a whole bunch of the same card, all brand new and just take it out of the box, put it
on the bench, figure out how fast it is.
Okay.
Next one.
And then just go and see, figure out kind of like a general range.
The sample size won't be amazing with five or 10, but it'll still be really interesting
to see.
Yeah.
So we just want to see like, if you guys are looking at like a graphics card review for
a Titan X or something and you kind of go, Oh, you beats the, you know, fury by, you
know, 3%, man, it's better.
Is that actually, yeah.
What if the variance from sample to sample is like 10%?
We don't even know.
So we thought it would be a really interesting investigation and we want to, we want to check
it out.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And then the, like, um, wattage from the wall difference between me overclocking it and
GPU boost overclocking.
It was only like seven Watts under a low.
Fairly interesting.
Fairly interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, um, right.
The big elephant in the room and the article that I, that I linked actually did a really
good job of talking about this is that Broadwell was delayed by so much that Skylake is rumored
to be showing up in August.
So Broadwell's here, but, um, Skylake is the actual architectural change where it's going
to be on the same 14 nanometer process as Broadwell, but with a new architecture, not
just like amped up onboard graphics that you can use the embedded, you know, VRAM for a
level four cache or something.
This is a, this is a new, new chip.
Um, so our advice, whether even not knowing what Skylake has in store is kind of wait
for Skylake right now.
It'll support DDR4 with that said, um, I believe Skylake also has support for DDR3.
So yeah, you know, it's, it's just not looking like a good time to buy a new computer right
now.
Is it?
VR4 prices are still too high and it's not like they're going to instantly drop overnight
just because Skylake shows up.
So like theory stuff looks interesting enough and IITI performs pretty damn well, but then
there's those like insane, I don't remember the code name for them, graphics cards just
kind of on the horizon.
Yup.
So let's all stay tuned basically to any industry being on the bleeding edge of it.
Yeah, exactly.
So this is cool, sort of a King cry posted the original, the original link here from
the Washington post.
I'm going to drop that in the Twitch chat for you guys.
Um, Oh, I'm trying, I'm trying.
I'm going to press the thing.
Eventually AT&T was hit with a $100 million fine for throttling unlimited data customers.
The FCC assessed the fine on June 17th, AT&T has been accused of improperly slowing down
internet speeds for customers who had signed up for unlimited data plans.
It was assessed due to the lack of transparency in this action.
Um, a quote from the article here is AT&T should have been upfront about the throttled
speed since they implemented the practice back in 2011.
In October of 2014, the FCC sued AT&T due to an estimated three and a half million users
having their internet service slow to dial up speeds on an average of 12 days a month.
So we're not talking like the last couple of days of the month.
They like throttle you back, you know, to half speed or whatever.
We're talking screwing over the data access of their customers because they had the audacity
to use the unlimited plan that they paid for.
It's like, so what if I negotiate with Luke that, uh, you know, I'm going to, you know,
help him move something and in return he, you know, has me help him move something and
I like lift one thing and I'm like, yeah, I did it enough now so you can carry the rest
by yourself.
Like it's not Luke's fault that I offered to help him move something.
That's not how this works.
If AT&T has a plan that you can buy and they have a price tag on it, then you should be
able to buy it.
Yep.
That's pretty brutal.
And like the throttle speed is insane too.
It's not like they turned it down like a little bit, like they put it to 512 kilobits per
second.
Like you can't do jack with that.
Yeah, exactly.
That's ridiculous.
You could browse the Linus tech tips.com forum.
Yeah.
Just kind of a little slowly.
As long as, yeah, as long as people are polite and put their big images in spoiler hiders.
Yeah.
It's just like, don't go to the build blog section.
Yeah.
Don't go there.
Don't go to the memes thread.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't really do anything.
That's brutal.
Like they, yeah, they didn't even, I like how they show stops here.
So they're like 3.5 megabits per second speed required to stream a standard definition video
700 kilobits per second speed required to use FaceTime and you're below that, get wrecked.
I know it's not even be able to use FaceTime.
It's like, yeah, we're slowing down our data, like strategically slow enough that you can
just use a voice connection and you can eat into your plan there.
Yeah.
Enjoy.
You like can't, can't, can't call your grandparents and like show them around your house.
It seems to be the only thing that I know anyone uses FaceTime for.
If you guys follow me on social media at all, you've probably already seen this, but I'm
because I'm at Google headquarters and I actually, I asked them for a here, hold on a second.
I'm going to get Luke to share this video.
I'm going to, I'm going to link you to it, Luke, so you don't have to look for it here.
But because I'm in Google headquarters and I told them I was streaming, so they were
like, oh yeah, okay, so yeah, we can get you a landline connection.
First thing I did of course is fired up dat speed test and I'm not going to, I'm not going
to ruin the suspense.
I'm going to get Luke to play the video over there and screen share with you guys.
But let me tell you, I am a, I am pretty, pretty impressed.
I am loving it.
I really want, uh, we have to listen to you.
Sorry.
I can't, Oh, it's okay.
All I say is, Hey guys, I'm down at Google headquarters.
So the first thing I did was run a speed test.
So I've kind of covered that already.
Gotcha.
Holy balls.
One millisecond ping suckers.
That's so bad ass.
Wow.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm not at Google HQ.
I'm at a Google campus.
Excuse me.
We should just host a Google campus out of our new office.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
Oh man.
Like get wrecked everything that is real world speed with presumably like people in the building
working and doing things.
And then the upload, I actually, I ran out of my 30 seconds worth of video recording
before I could do the upload, but it was similar.
It was like 800 and 870 megabit per second or something ridiculous like that.
It's so sad.
Just the, the, the never wait for anything internet.
Exactly.
And you can really feel it too.
Like downloading files is just a, you know how browsers will do their virus scan?
Yes.
You just click download and then it's like scanning for viruses.
Okay.
That's cool.
Thanks dog.
Although our internet at the new place should be pretty darn good too.
I'm excited about that.
Did I tell you, Oh, this is a, this is more of just like a Linus media group update.
I don't think Luke knows this yet.
So our install date, thanks to a miscommunication between our, our like fiber reseller and the
backbone provider, our install date has been pushed to after we'll be moving in.
So for the first little while, we are actually going to be on a 4g hotspot.
Wow.
Provided by them or what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Provided by, yeah.
Cause I was like, that's going to get really expensive real fast.
Provided by them for screwing it up.
But yeah, so I was not impressed when I found out that the original and actually like, I
don't even know what the speeds of the 4g hotspot are going to be, but originally they
were like, yeah, we can get you a six down one up a DSL line.
I'm like, you have got to be kidding me.
I'm buying 200 megabit symmetric fiber from you guys.
And you think that I can get by with six down one up.
How is it?
We're an online video company.
Find a better solution.
Well, that hotspot is going to be ridiculous too.
You know that, right?
I know it's going to be really dumb.
But it is what it is.
And it'll be really nice when we, when we upgrade, I'm even thinking we could just
do like WAN show for a week from, cause it's not for long, but we could do like a WAN show
one week from my house again for old time's sake or something like that.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's a few more details about, hold on, I'm just going to copy the link.
This was posted by Boozoo on the forum about Skylake that we should probably share with
you guys.
So Intel is good.
So there's going to be the 6,700 K and 6,600 K and Core i7 and Core i5 varieties.
So we're going back to the usual naming scheme and we're getting a new socket.
So the thing about Broadwell is you can pop it in your existing D97 board, not in this,
not for Skylake.
You're going to need a Z170 chipset and that's going to be on the LGA 1151, I believe it
is.
Yeah, I think it's the LGA 1151 socket.
So yet another subtle change.
Intel really likes that 1,150 something number.
They're going to run out because we've had 1,150, 1,155, 1,156, 1,151 given another sort
of six years and they're going to have to do something different.
They can keep step, yeah, six years.
There you go.
I was going to say they can keep that weird stepping that they have going, 1,57, 1,52.
Let me just find, there's another, so hold on a couple more Skylake things before we
move on to our last bit of Intel news.
Notebook versions of Skylake processors are planned for the fourth quarter of 2015 and
Intel's notebook reference design for the platform includes support for USB 3.1 with
Type-C ports.
So that stuff is not going to be Apple exclusive for long, which is, well, it's not exclusive
now.
I mean, there's a Chromebook, but who cares?
No, no.
Oh, can I say that here?
Are they listening?
Oh dear.
Someone comes through the door, we're taking your internet, click.
Yeah.
You like that gigabit internet you're on right now?
Yeah.
You like that?
You like that?
Yeah.
You like that?
Right now.
Right.
So I've got our last bit of Intel news and this is, you know, I don't know what to say
about this.
Intel plans job cuts across the company, this is posted by Joss on the forum, says an internal
memo and they plan to reduce R&D spending.
So this is a confidential internal memo that indicates that Intel wants to keep expenses
flat to match its reduced revenue outlook for 2015, citing plans it announced in April
to cut its research and administration budget by 300 million this year.
Doesn't say how many people will lose jobs, but said the cuts will begin June 15th.
So that was four days ago and conclude one month later.
Laid off employees will receive a minimum of two months pay according to the memo plus
extended health insurance and additional payments based on their time with Intel in exchange
for release of any claims against the company.
No one has been notified or excuse me, not no one, but if you're losing your job, there's
a very good chance you haven't been notified yet and I got to kind of look at this and
go, was Intel really expecting 8% performance improvements year over year to drive CPU sales?
What did they expect?
The mainstream is getting bigger and Broadwell desktop is a great example of this.
The mainstream is getting better graphics performance that they never asked for and
the guys that are, cause you can talk about how small the enthusiast segment is all day
and it is the guys that are out there buying, you know, 59 60 X extreme additions are few
and far between their grains of sand in an ocean, but they are influencers and Intel
has made it hard to get excited about their CPUs for a long time now and influencers aren't
going to be like running around telling all their buddies that their new CPU is so great
and it makes their gaming experience so awesome and they need to upgrade.
They're not going to be doing that if you don't keep them excited and I hope that as
part of, you know, cutting costs and the strategic things that they're doing there, I hope they're
also taking, taking a look at what makes Intel sexy stuff like the seven 50 SSD doesn't necessarily
show up in a positive way on a balance sheet because there's like a handful of motherboards
that can even use the stupid thing, not to mention that it's really expensive, but what
it does is it gets people talking about Intel's innovation and leadership and SSD.
I mean, Intel's lucky that AMD has been sitting on their ass for the last five years.
With that said, I think that brings us really well into another topic here that, Oh, I don't
actually, okay, this one I don't think is in the doc, but AMD has committed to a full
meet like CPU, not an APU with the upcoming Zen.
So it's, wouldn't be the first time that Intel fell asleep at the wheel a little bit and
kind of went, yeah, it's good enough.
Let's focus on like making graphics better, which is important, especially an AMD believes
it's important too.
Let's just be, sorry.
You want to hang out with this to me?
Oh, which one?
The article.
Oh, there's a post on the forum.
I actually don't have it up.
I'm just going from memory.
Just to be clear, AMD and Intel and Apple for that matter, all on the same page about
GPU performance actually being a huge driving force for the feature.
I mean, Apple was showing off their metal API at their worldwide developer conference
talking about huge performance improvements in like real work, like not just, you know,
running YouTube videos on the internet or whatever, like real work, things like the
Adobe suite, thanks to metal.
So I'm not saying that what Intel's doing isn't really, really important and valuable
with these great GPU's built into their CPU's.
I'm just saying it's not sexy because it's, it's not, there's no like, what is the upgrade
itch?
I feel like it's just enthusiasts.
I feel like we all kind of, we all kind of know what we're talking about, right?
Like, yeah, this hardware is like great and it's cool, but that's what Apple's so good
at.
They make it sexy.
They make it exciting.
Even if the hardware isn't new and isn't exciting.
And I feel like, I feel like Intel's just kind of lost that a little bit over the last
while and it wouldn't be the first time that Intel was, like I said, kind of asleep at
the wheel and AMD showed up out of nowhere and took a chunk of their lunch.
Space at AMD has never really been, you know, head to head with Intel, but they've at least
been like a great number two at times.
And even for the tech savvy, the better choice at times.
And I would love to see that happen again with Zen as much because I, you know, would
love to run a Zen processor as because I would love for Intel to wake up and kick some ass
and Conroe us again, you know, just anything exciting in the PC space right now would be
awesome.
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All right.
What's our next topic here?
I am lost in the dock now.
Okay, it's okay.
I got this.
Right.
Radio on R9 300 series.
Speaking of exciting things that AMD is doing.
So AMD did everything from completely pointless and horrible to actually looking pretty darn
exciting over the last week with the launch of the R9 300 series and the R9 Fury series.
So we'll start with R9 300 because we can go through this pretty quickly.
It's posted by Zmule and yeah, so the R9, excuse me, the R7 260 is now the R7 360.
The HD 7850 is now the R7 370.
The R9 285 is now the R9 380.
So at least they've acknowledged that, yeah, it is sort of lower.
The R9 290X is now the R9 390X and the 390 and 390X now come with eight gigs of memory.
Not that we haven't had eight gig 290X cards for months now and memory bandwidth was increased
from five to six gigabit per second likely just thanks to better yields on that stuff
and AMD's MSRP and this is a big gigantic wheelbarrow full of fail are actually higher
than the street prices for certain cards at retailers right now.
So if you were thinking, hey, I'd sure love to have an R9 390X, then you should probably
go to Amazon using our code by the way, buy a 290X and then draw three on it because while
there were some rumors that the 390 and 390X had actually improved the GPU compared to
the 290 and 290X, there's already rumor debunking stuff showing up right now.
In fact...
Like the driver thing you're talking about.
Yeah, that's the one I'm gonna pull up right now.
I'm gonna post this link...
I don't actually have the...
I don't have the link to hard OCP but whatever, I'll post what I have here you guys.
So it looks like it was a driver tweak and an enterprising individual out there found
a way to make the 390 launch driver run on the 290X and the tessellation performance
improvements that came with the 300 series are mirrored exactly on the 200 series once
the driver...
Why do they even bother?
Why do these companies even bother?
We're gonna find out.
The PC tech media...
And I'm not even including myself here.
Some of those guys are really, really smart.
Like really smart.
And even if they don't grab it, like a lot of the end users are really, really smart
and we'll figure it out if we don't.
That's right.
You know, guys like...
Between the professionals, you know, the guys like a Scott Lawson or Ryan Shroud or Ryan
Smith, between those guys and between the really smart end users that are out there,
how can you possibly expect to get to pretend that tessellation performance improved when
it's a driver tweak?
Yeah.
So anyway, let's talk R9 theory because this is where things actually get quite a bit more
interesting.
So Big Strunes posted the original article on Linus Tech Tips here and it's from legit
reviews which I have gone ahead and posted in the Twitch chat.
So the performance of any card running the new Fiji GPU is still under NDA until it's
released until the R9 Fury X is released on June 24th.
So to be clear, Fury X2, which is just a placeholder name for the dual GPU Fiji card that's rumored
to be coming out in the fall and has been pictured, is one of them.
And then we're also getting an R9 Fury X and an R9 Fury.
So what can we...
Just make the naming scheme even more confusing.
Yeah.
What the hell?
Why didn't they just make life...
I mean, the thing that I think companies miss sometimes is why something worked.
It's like if BMW released a super awesome car and a bunch of people bought it and let's
say it was called the X6 or something and Nissan's like, yeah, let's call our next series
the X6 E for evolution.
And it's not as good of a car.
Copying someone else's naming scheme and product tiering structure is not going to work.
It doesn't work that way.
The Titan wasn't successful because it was called a Titan.
They should have made it...
What in mythology killed the Titans?
Wasn't there a thing?
I can't remember.
I actually like the throwback branding.
Now to be clear, if they were going to have something that was like a truly head and shoulders
above everything else product, I actually don't mind them calling it like a Rage or
a Fury or like an R9 Max or like a throwback to the ATI race.
But what is just the only new card?
It's just that it's the only new card and the rumors have the performance competitive
with GTX 980 Ti.
So you can't...
Titan was Titan because there was nothing it was competing against.
Not because they just called it Titan.
So for Fury to be a Fury and to truly be different, then it would have to compete against something
that's really different.
Now, you can make the argument that if Fury X is competitive with GTX 980 Ti, then it's
pretty damn competitive with Titan X.
But I also think Titan X is stupid and people who bought Titan X's should feel pretty bad
right now.
Not because they're dumb, but because Nvidia didn't really give them a value in the way
that they did with the original Titan, which had the better double precision performance
in addition to the larger frame buffer and the fact that you got big Kepler performance
a significant amount of time before anyone else got big Kepler performance, at least
not at an affordable price.
Where am I going with all this?
Right, right.
Specs for R9 Fury X.
Do you want to run through this?
I feel like I've been talking forever.
I'm sorry.
When I can't see you, it's so easy to talk over you.
I'm sorry.
I know, but it's actually been okay because I never control the screen.
So I'm just so lost in like, usually I have like all my notes on my screen.
I'm just like, all right, this is how I work and I don't navigate websites.
So I spent a lot of this time just being like, am I supposed to be scrolling right now?
Or like, what do I do?
I have no idea what's supposed to be happening.
I've been having the opposite experience.
I've been like, oh, this is great.
I have my webcam like right above my notes.
I can just like, look right at my notes.
I don't have to remember Jack.
Yeah.
Cause usually what I'm doing is I read the chat to make sure everything's going fine
and like make sure the thing's stable and the audio is level and we're not screwing
anything up.
And like, so I haven't been monitoring the chat and I'm scrolling through.
It's weird.
Um, I don't even know where the specs are like in the, oh, scroll down a little bit
right there.
I can do it if you want.
Go for it.
And maybe I'll just jump in.
All right.
So we've got 4,096 stream processors running at 10, 50 megahertz, 64 compute units, 2,565
texture units, 64 ROPs and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
So this is cool.
It's only, it's less than 20 centimeters.
So just over seven and a half inches in length, which to me is kind of merits a penis extension
of some sort.
I'm sure it's going to mod something like that.
Um, no, because, um, look at what we've been doing lately.
A lot of really small computers, compact builds the most fun thing we did in the last little
while was that little tiny, ridiculous Silverstone case.
And you know what's really, those even smaller, you're able to use 700 watt SFX or even they're
really insane density, 600 watt, and then an ITX motherboard and then a short ass graphics
card.
And then you throw, you throw a Broadwell desktop on there and all of a sudden you've
got a 65 watt TDP on your CPU.
You don't even need to liquid cool your CPU or even put a decent cooler on it.
Your GPU can have that one 120 millimeter fan cooling slot that can actually take up
the space where the butt end of your graphics card would have normally been.
I might get my PlayStation two size computer at some point here with a pretty significant
GPU kick.
If this was two years ago, I would have been completely on board with what you just said.
I'm like, Oh, it's a short car that's going to look super stupid because I was one of
the, like the bigger haters of the, whatever that card was.
You run an 800 D. Yes.
And you're thinking of the 670, the, the, yeah, I hated that.
The performance grade Nvidia, like short class card.
That helped me so much, but yeah, I think it would be fine now, but so many people are
building smaller builds.
Yep.
Like looking at my 800 D now, it's just like the only reason why I have that is because
I haven't upgraded anything in my computer in a long time.
So AMD has way overdone the cooling.
They've got a safe gentle typhoon type fan on it.
It's one 20 millimeter rad.
The thermal limit of the GPU is apparently 75 degrees, so they want to keep it cool for
some reason.
Very interesting.
It has a 275 watt TDP with a 500 watt capable cooler at the, at the, at the target, please
don't go higher than this temperature.
Very interesting.
The R9 Fury non X, we don't have as much detail about, so fewer course than the X and it does
not have a reference design.
We've seen Nvidia do this kind of thing before.
Oh, apparently they want Luke to turn mic volume up.
I know.
Oh, okay.
I don't know if I can.
Okay.
I can turn myself down a little.
I just, I can never really dial on this thing is for my monitoring, isn't it?
Yeah.
Maybe that's a little better.
Okay, so, um, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right.
We've seen Nvidia do this before where every card will be a non reference card.
And quite frankly, it probably makes sense in this case since, um, if they were doing
a reference card, I'm assuming on a lower cost card like this, they would want to do
a blower design and the aftermarket guys are going to want to put open air coolers on them
and they're not going to want to sell blowers anyway.
And the blowers probably not going to be that effective if the TDP is anywhere near the,
uh, the two 90 or the, uh, the fury X.
I mean, even, you know, we saw the same thing with Titan X.
Like it's that cooler design is great on a nine 80.
Not as great on a Titan X or not great at all.
That's why, Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm highly frustrated with ZOTAC right now.
I love those guys, but they really should have sent me the Arctic storm tight necks
because I really want to see what you can do with like a good, not that air cooler on
a tight next.
You know what?
We, uh, we have two tight necks as we could sacrifice one of them to the water block gods.
Maybe just, um, you know what, maybe we could do some, maybe we could do like some water
cooling content over the next little bit here because you wanted to, Oh, I can't reveal
that.
Okay.
Well whatever.
There could be some water cooling content coming.
Yes.
Okay.
So let's talk, let's talk Fiji architecture for a little bit here.
Run away.
AMD says it took nearly seven years to develop.
Um, they're thinking about releasing all the data needed to 3d print your own side covers
for the card shroud, which is pretty neat.
Um, encouraging modding is always something that looks good for these companies to do
and cost them.
Nothing.
Um, AMD put nine LEDs on the back of a card that allow you to see GPU load level.
It's not the first time we've seen something like this.
There's a two dip switches on the back plate that allow you to enable or disable the GPU
tack and allows you to change the color of the LEDs between red and blue to match your
case theme better.
There's also a light that goes on if they're zero core power mode is enabled.
Um, one thing that I really like started jumping here is that they did the like nine little
LEDs for, for load level because one thing that's been driving me insane is multicolored
RGB load level indicators on cards.
It's like, what the hell?
I don't want my like all red and black, bad ass card in my all red and black, bad ass
system to randomly be like green.
Right?
No.
What are you doing?
This is not Christmas.
I am playing games or I am not playing games.
Stop it.
So I'm, I'm very happy with the, the little like line of LEDs idea.
Like how hard can you hit the hammer, make the thing go up style instead of multicolored
LEDs.
Right.
Um, so onto more, more Fiji architecture stuff.
This is, this is really a little disappointing actually.
Um, the GPU does not support HDMI 2.0.
It was running HDMI 1.4 a with that said, I can't really think of a, no, I can think
of a reason.
It would be really nice for TVs with HDMI 2.0 like if you want a game on a TV, uh, it's
going to be hard to find a display port TV.
It would have been super sick if you could, uh, if you could handle 4k 60 Hertz on a TV.
So that's like sort of kind of disappoint.
Um, but there's other really cool stuff.
So for the, I don't know, first time in a while, I guess AMD has really leapfrogged
Nvidia in a way that I'm sure Nvidia is going to be playing down to the best of their ability
because Nvidia is still on GDDR and AMD has spent a lot of time and a lot of effort on
HBM.
So that's their high bandwidth memory technology.
Um, so what this is is effectively the Ram is sitting like physically, it's actually
physically smaller cause they're stacking it instead of laying it out flat.
And it is physically closer to the GPU for much, much higher memory bandwidth than we've
seen before.
With that said, um, memory bandwidth overclocking has typically not done a whole lot for me
and Luke over the last couple of years.
But there are benefits that might not be immediately apparent.
So the power consumption savings is a big one.
The fact that you can now take more of your power tuning and throw it at the GPU instead
of the memory since you're limited by how much the PCI express specification allows
you to pull through a slot and the, and the power plugs that go into it.
So that's a benefit.
And I mean, I guess, well that's, that's a big benefit.
And what we can do with more memory bandwidth in the future is something that is yet to
be unlocked by developers.
And so more is better.
One problem that AMD is downplaying hardcore right now, and I'm really not sure if I agree
with is that R9 Fury X and R9 Fury are going to launch with four gigs memory max.
So four one gig stacks next to the GPU.
And with AMD sort of trumpeting the benefits of four gig back when they launched Hawaii
with the 290X for 4K gaming and kind of going, yep, four gigs is still enough.
When Nvidia has traditionally been the one to let AMD throw more memory at their cards
and then kind of put the right amount of memory per GPU to have AMD kind of going, yep, yep,
four gigs is enough.
But we're going to work on eight gigs later is, is a bit of a difficult message for me
to swallow.
I understand why, whether it's yields or whether it's pure availability of chips, they aren't
able to.
We've been talking about doing this for a little while now and it's complicated, but
we should do a deeper dive.
How much VRAM are we using in different situations?
NCIX Tech Tips actually did one not that long ago.
And the truth of the matter is that even gaming at 4K, you are very unlikely to exceed four
gigs of memory usage.
But the problem with that is you can get damn close today and there's a lot of games, like
look at how PC and E3 was, yeah, there's a lot of games and a lot of games like Grand
Theft Auto 5 that are going to have a lot of mods that are going to ask for a lot of
video memory.
And if you could add super fast and I know people that have gotten over four gigs with
Skyrim.
Absolutely.
Oh yeah.
For sure.
Like a lot of times.
Yep.
So, I mean, that was how AMD justified the release of the R9 290X with eight gigs.
And then the funny part here is that 390 and 390X fly right in the face of that message
that four gigs is enough.
These are lower end cards that AMD is throwing eight gigs of memory at.
Yeah.
So.
That's pretty brutal.
Yeah.
I mean, it's all going to come down to performance and at the end of the day, if the Fury X crushes
the 980 Ti, in spite of its two gigs less memory, I think a lot of people are going
to run to it.
And the fact that the form factor is so different is a really unique selling point for me.
So I really like it.
I'm excited to check it out.
It turns out ours is in the mail and is scheduled for delivery today.
Oh, okay.
So we...
It hasn't shown up yet.
No, it hasn't.
They sent it to my house because they're a bunch of people who don't ask where to ship
things.
And don't tell me that they shipped it.
Well, they don't usually ship us things.
They're like, I'm like, yeah, so I saw the review embargo date.
So are you planning to send one at all?
They're like, oh yeah, it's already in the mail.
Like, well, don't you think maybe you should actually check with me before you mail things
to me?
Like what, what if, and what if this was an alternate universe and I didn't have time?
Like what if I actually wasn't going to have a video app?
Would you, it would already be in the mail.
Like don't you think you should check these things with people?
Like what, what if I, what if I broke my leg yesterday and I actually can't benchmark the
Fury X or some injury that would actually prevent me from benchmarking a graphics card
and hands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, so I'm hoping that my wife, I'm hoping that they'll, they'll drop it.
And my wife can, can get it in time.
Otherwise it'll show up Monday at my house, which is super dumb because that'll give us
like one day basically to make a video about it, which is done it before.
I know, but it's not a good thing.
When it's involved, like copious amounts of overtime.
Yeah.
All right, so yeah, moving, moving on.
This was a really cool article posted on the forum by Jaybird and it's the, the features
that Apple didn't tell you about iOS nine and some of them are like really cool and
some of them are just like, holy cow, it took long enough.
So you can pinch to zoom in and out on a video.
Now they give you detailed battery usage for the last 24 and last 72 hours.
You can do, you can group notifications by app.
You can disable shake to undo touch ID protected passwords in Safari.
There's some new stock apps, a quick reply for all apps.
You can turn off all vibrations keyboard keys.
You guys should check that out.
If you're an iPhone user, it's definitely worth checking out because there's always
the stuff in the keynote and then there's the actually like, Oh wow, this is super useful.
I wish they'd mentioned it stuff after the fact when I was using my iPhone, I immediately
installed Swift key.
I phone didn't have up care case and lowercase keyboards.
What Swift key for iOS the last time I used it was still kind of Tara bad though.
It's it's bad.
But I switched anyways cause it knew my type and profile and stuff.
Right.
So I was like, sure man.
But it was, yeah, I did not like that.
That was one of the things I really didn't like about the iPhone.
I mean, last time around, that was one of the big, the big things is like, thank you.
You finally support third party keyboards.
Wish this had happened a long time ago.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's talk input devices here.
This this is a thing.
Um, third party, third party fancy pants controllers have been available for some time, whether
it's for the Xbox or PlayStation or PC or whatever.
But I have not yet seen a first party controller of this magnitude.
So the Xbox one elite controller was announced at E3.
It features four interchangeable paddles around the back hair trigger locks for precise control
and shooters, remappable buttons, completely swappable components, including like you can
change out the D pad, um, state the stainless steel paddles are removable, but when they're
attached, they allow you to keep your fingers on the thumb sticks at all times.
We've seen like janky modded ones in the past that are just like they replicate the functionality
of other buttons.
But um, full customization of thumb stick sensitivity and minimum min slash max levels
for the controller's top triggers and these settings along with button mapping are handled
through a standalone app that will be released for Xbox one and windows 10.
So with all this talk about valves, new controller and with the third party innovation that's
happened and the fact that Microsoft, other than, you know, making the original Xbox controller
actually holdable by real people with normal sized hands and then streamlining the Xbox
360 controller, it seems like Microsoft has taken notice and is actually maybe gonna capture
our attention with this Xbox one platform after all.
It's expensive as hell.
Yeah, it's $150 if all that sounded great until the price, I don't blame you.
Yeah.
Um, your controller preferences are stored in the cloud.
The game pad itself can carry around two user profiles.
Like it actually looks kind of bad ass, but hey, we got it.
We got a straw poll.
This, um, I'll create, I'll create a straw poll.
I'm sure interested in, and remember guys, you don't have to be an Xbox gamer to buy
this.
It's going to be for the PC and the dongles, the dongles coming, the dongles announced
for the PC, the wireless dongle.
Uh, controllers are super important even for PC guys, if you want to play racing games,
if you want to play a lot of just action games, I personally think Assassin's Creed plays
better with a controller.
Yeah, I played team Raider 2013 with a controller for sure.
Um, and speaking of racing games, Logitech did announce the G 29 at E3.
I haven't actually looked into it a ton, but I'm, I'm hoping to get our hands on a review
unit of that.
The problem is that they're releasing the, Oh crap, I forget what they're calling it,
but the PlayStation exclusive one first.
Um, so I had kind of sent in a request for an engineering sample of the PC compatible
and Xbox one and I haven't heard back or anything yet.
So look at these votes.
Do you have this up?
No.
Interested in buying an Xbox elite controller, 38% of you at $150 here, I'll send you the
link.
I'm pretty surprised, um, but I'm, I'm a little surprised.
I'm very happy that turnip has at least 24% yeah, vote, vote for turnip.
You guys turnip is turnip is turnip is a love and life and all that.
But 40% of you are interested in the Xbox elite controller.
This is a half and half mix.
That is a, I mean, obviously this isn't, you know, a painstakingly crafted, you know, market
research survey, but wow.
Market controllers are a thing.
I don't know.
I like really nice controllers.
I mean before Ben Gate, one of uh, uh, unbox therapies, top, uh, top viewed videos was
some, some Xbox controller.
Yeah.
I forget which one it is.
Uh, Xbox controller, I'll search for it.
The Avenger.
Oh no.
The scuff controller.
Scuff.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
No, no.
Avenger elite was, that's weird.
N control Avenger, 5.7 million views was a play aftermarket PlayStation three controller
with like, it looks like a Swiss army knife.
Yeah.
Um, what else we got today?
Oh, right.
The other big thing that Microsoft announced backwards compatibility for the Xbox one,
even servers.
Wow.
Popping bombs at E3.
I mean, I think Luke, you and I both agreed Nintendo one E3 last year, right?
Yeah.
Not this year.
Last year though.
This year.
I mean, can you imagine this?
Did Microsoft just win E3?
Wasn't there a ton of PlayStation game announcements?
I guess the PC.
Yeah, I guess it was just a, okay, but come on.
I mean, Sony's got, Sony's downplaying this already because Sony has changed the architectural
design of their console so dramatically from generation to generation, particularly with
the cell last gen that emulation is just impossible.
Like early PlayStation threes needed PS two hardware in them and the PlayStation four
never had any kind of backwards compatibility whatsoever.
So Sony is obviously going to downplay this, but backwards compatibility is huge.
I mean, you look at any other art form and we're thinking about, we're like, we're actively
making efforts to preserve it and gaming short of PC emulation, which is becoming less and
less feasible over time as you know, alternative controller schemes like, like how, how are
you going to play a Wii game unless you have a Wiimote if it's an actually Wiimote optimized
game?
Can you not hook a Wiimote up to a PC?
I think there's janky ways that you can like fake-o do it, but it's, it's never going to
be mainstream.
It's never going to be like, um, you know, like, like the way that people buy a poster
of like eventually emulating Xbox one and PlayStation four shouldn't be that hard PS
three.
Um, I mean, I don't, I don't want to use the N word, but like that may never happen.
Um, and so for hardware, particularly hardware with someone will figure out something, but
I doubt it will ever be perfect in much the same way that even Nintendo 64 emulation is
still not perfect.
It's just a little sketchy.
There's some, there's some dips and ups and too much doesn't really run right.
Yeah.
Some games that don't work.
Right.
So particularly if the device that runs your art form, I mean, if we treat games like art
has an optical drive in it, it will die.
So unless we're, you know, unless all of these guys have like a warehouse of pristine condition
consoles or have plans to open source the hardware at some point so people can continue
to enjoy this content for like, let's not even think years, let's think decades or let's
think, you know, centuries from now.
It's not like we don't appreciate art from, you know, the middle ages.
How are we going to preserve PlayStation one gaming for our children's children's children?
I don't know.
That's an interesting question.
Because you look at what's happened to a lot of the old consoles, it just doesn't exist
anymore.
Or you're doing like what I'm doing, which is just hoard old consoles and old games.
And even that's going to be limited to guys who have like, in the, in the case of cartridges,
you're limited in some cases to guys who have the skills to like solder new batteries and
things.
Yeah.
I mean, they barely work and that's, that's a lot better than an optical drive.
Yeah.
I have a number of NES games that you can't, um, the like internal batteries or whatnot
are dead and, or even SNES games.
Exactly.
And the PC is much, much better at this, uh, thanks to the boat anchor that holds us back
in a lot of ways that is x86, but these completely closed garden consoles are just gonna fade
into obscurity.
I don't know.
I worry about that.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Do we have any more topics?
I think that was everything I really wanted to get through.
Uh, Oh yeah, I've got it.
This is just kind of a fun one.
So I really hope I don't offend any of you, but this is like the world's saddest thing
ever.
Real doll is a company making silicone sex dolls and they are upgrading them in a significant
manner.
And I don't mean upgrading your sex doll.
Can you chat with them remotely?
So um, they are making AI heads for their existing silicone sex doll object things that
will kind of act like they like what you're doing, uh, with plans to release.
And so they're planning to have those available by 2017 with plans to release full body animated
sex bots, um, in the future that will cost up to $77,000.
Now what I can say is that's nothing compared to a real woman, but come on, really?
The article here is from new.com Australia.
And the funny thing about anything sex related is there's always going to be like a, like
a sexpert, you know, that they contact for comment on an article like this.
And the thing about sexperts is that with very few exceptions, a lot of this is pseudo
scientific nonsense.
Um, so you could find a sexpert to agree with you on anything.
Doesn't matter.
So they probably went out and contacted a half a dozen sexperts and just found one that
thought this was a good idea and one that thought it was a bad idea.
And the one that thought it was a good idea was just like, Oh, well yeah, you know, you
know, for some people interacting with other people is, you know, whether they're like
busy at work is, is not as good as having a silicone doll.
And like, that's, I'm like, really like really maybe, maybe, maybe I'm going to be like one
of those like weird people.
Maybe you're the caveman.
Yeah.
I don't think I can scroll down anymore.
Maybe I'm the caveman.
So I want to hear from you guys.
Straw poll.
Yeah.
Sex doll.
Uh, yes.
Uh, to augment, uh, RL relationship.
Yes.
To replace no and, uh, everyone's favorite turnip.
And this is just general.
Turnip as in like, I don't care at all.
Do whatever you want, bro.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
That's another thing.
I'm not saying they should be illegal or anything.
Just to be clear, when I say yuck, I mean me personally, yuck.
I don't mean that you can't do whatever you want.
But I also think that if we were just, if you were like my bro and we were to sit down
and have a heart to heart, you know, like, let's just like, let's talk about whether
this is a good idea, you know, for, for your wellbeing, I'd be like, I don't think this
is a good idea.
I think that having real contact with real people is important.
Even if we do it digitally, like I think something like Skype to you is, is better than just
talking to an, to an AI, um, and in much the same way that having a relationship with a
person is just, even if it's just like practice, skyping might even be skyping to a real person
might not even be as constructive emotionally as talking to an AI in person, depending on
how developed the AI is.
That's a good point.
Okay.
So let's, uh, Oh, Oh, did I not post it?
I don't think so.
I thought I did.
People are voting.
Yeah.
Cool.
Um, and I mean, here's the thing too, though, is what we're talking about right now is year
2017 AI.
I don't think anyone should spend $77,000 on that AI in particular.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm sure it's going to be trash, but it's like the early adopter idea probably
I would assume it must be cause it's going to be super bad.
Like look at, look at, uh, even like hugely commercialized solutions where it's not like
a very, very narrow market, any form of AI or like voice, voice control, even voice detection
is just garbage.
So like, what do you expect from it?
It's not going to be great.
All right.
So 42% of you are on the turnip bandwagon with 32% of you saying no, um, 17% of you
saying yes to augment a real life relationship.
And let's face it, there's lots of people out there that have sex dolls.
Like it's, it's a thing.
It exists.
Um, and I mean, it's, it's one of those things where I guess, you know, as long as you're
sort of honest with each other and as long as everyone's like, cool, then that's, that's
great.
And then we've got 10% of you saying yes.
You know, I'm, I'm too busy or I, it's not my thing.
I'm not a people person.
Yes.
That, that is a, that is an acceptable substitute for me.
Very interesting.
Well, there you go.
It's always nice to hear from you guys because you, you can open my eyes a lot of the time.
I mean, I'm the one hosting the show and Luke's hosting the show, but a lot of the times it's
you guys sort of telling us like what's actually going on out there because we're only, we're
only two people.
I'm pretty excited that we're talking about sex dolls in front of 6,533 people.
I'm pretty excited that, um, those people might get to watch me and a sex doll in the
after party.
Actually, no, that's not happening.
Um, yeah, I know.
Thank you all very much after party ever.
Yeah.
I'm actually probably not doing an after party cause I think like there's someone pacing
outside this conference room.
I think I told them I was going to be done at six and it is now six Oh five.
So I think that's pretty much it for the show today, guys.
Thank you all so much for tuning in and we will see you again next week.
Same bat time.
Same bat channel.
I will not be streaming the internet at my place is just dumb and doesn't let me stream
for whatever reason.
So once we finally get the new office going in that super bad ass, apparently delayed
internet connection.
I'll start my personal stream up then again for people that are wondering, are you going
to be streaming from the office?
Yeah.
Oh, I told you that before.
Did you?
Oh, okay.
You actually, I had already decided that I wanted to do it and then you suggested it.
This is why, this is why my life is so exciting.
I get to learn new things even when they're not new.
Okay, let me roll the outro.
All right.
Nope.
Oh, the outro has failed.
Okay.
Oh, now the computer is freezing.
Squarespace.
Oh, it's cause directories have changed.
That makes sense.
Squarespace is awesome.
Yay.
Fresh books is also awesome.
Fresh books and vendor.com.
Okay, bye.