Okay, don't look at the chat, Luke.
Oh, sorry.
Stop looking at the chat.
Sorry.
Don't look at the chat.
I didn't, I didn't see everything yet.
I think I should just close it.
I'm just going to close it.
I can open it mid-show.
Boom.
Gone.
I forgot to ask you if the selected is not unchecked and we're live.
Welcome to the WAN show, ladies and gentlemen.
We are live.
So I guess, uh, real later because we accidentally went live on all platforms by accident.
Today we weren't quite ready to start Google latest to join the iFixit party, providing
parts and tools for self repair.
Pretty freaking big deal.
In other news, AMD accidentally gave you more gigahertz for free.
They're not my, uh, my doc just got signed out, but leave.
I remember some ubiquity Sue's Kreb from Krebs on security.
That's um, uh, another topic.
Oh, thank you, Lou.
I don't remember Elon Musk spent $3 billion for a 9.2% stake in Twitter becoming an instant
board member note.
This is kind of political because of how and why it's claimed that this happened.
Sorry.
Signed.
So that later, let's roll that intro.
Yeah.
All right.
Rock on.
Uh, a prime system is real broken.
What's going on?
Broken YouTube.
Everything broken.
Do you think apparently what, what do you think?
What do you think?
What's chugging?
It is chugging.
It's chugging.
Why is it chugging?
We're using a hundred percent of our network.
But the, uh, what?
It says encoding overloaded.
Nope, it says encoding overloaded.
Apparently the encoding is overloaded.
Never ran into this before.
I'm going to Google live with everyone else on the WAN show about what the heck that means.
All right.
Woo.
I think we're good.
All right.
Okay.
Uh, don't worry about it.
We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out another time.
Yeah.
Oh, let's jump right into our first topic.
Yeah.
Google joins the iFixit party, providing parts and tools for self repair.
Not to be outdone by rivals, Apple and Samsung.
Apple has partnered with iFixit to provide not just self repair parts, but tools and
guides.
The devices that will be supported are all pixel phones from the pixel two through the
pixel six pro along with a commitment to support future pixel models.
And this is a particularly big deal for pixel owners because pixels break all the time.
Oh yeah.
I mean, Luke, you've had personal experience with pixel phones breaking and being just
perpetually broken.
If my screen is on for any amount of time, the top drag down menu will just randomly
come down over and over and over again.
Rock on brother.
Yeah.
You want to see your notifications?
You want to see your notifications?
What?
Want to see your notifications?
How about now?
That's my phone.
I feel like I'm conversing with my phone right now.
Yeah.
I've had ever since pixel two, every version after that, I've had tons of problems with
every phone that I've had, unfortunately.
Also just right to repair support in general is a fantastic thing to see.
I know.
I'm very happy.
It's fantastic.
I think it's been on a tear just getting all these different companies to join with their
general program.
I'm very happy to see it.
Credit to other advocates like Louis Rossman.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely incredible.
Huge strides.
It's frustrating.
It's frustrating that it took this long and it's frustrating that it took so many people
shouting so loudly about something so obvious.
Yeah.
But it feels like the ball is actually moving.
Yeah.
Like...
Especially over the last few months, I think.
Of its own accord.
Yeah.
To the point where we might actually have, dare I say it, some momentum.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's been some really significant companies joining on.
I didn't really see this one coming, to be completely honest.
I didn't think Google was going to jump on this, but I'm really stoked that they did.
Each kit comes with an eye-opener tool, pre-cut adhesives to restore water resistance, and
the appropriate spudgers, picks, tweezers, precision bit drivers, and suction cups that
you need to get the job done.
The repair program launches later this year with no set availability date, and there's
a discussion question of, is there any downside to this whatsoever?
No.
I don't think we need to discuss that too much.
And the next question is, who's next?
Oh, wow.
I mean- We're a software company.
I don't think we'd be able to- No, there's nothing we can do about it right
now.
We are live.
So they're going to have to flip over to one of the other services if it's not working
properly.
Okay.
I already said that in the chat.
Okay.
So, who's next?
I mean- At this point?
I'd love to see Sony step in for game consoles.
Yeah.
That would be a big deal.
That would be particularly cool because of, I believe it was right to repair video, and
the guy used a stack of PlayStations as his example of why right to repair should exist,
because he was like this gigantic tower of PlayStations.
With like minor problems.
Can't be fixed.
Can't be fixed.
So yeah, that would be great.
That's actually a really good example.
That'd be huge.
I mean, Nintendo will never do it.
No.
They just don't care about anything other than you buying Nintendo.
Yep.
That's it.
Yep.
Yeah.
Personally, there's some.
I think Sony is a fantastic answer.
To be honest though, just anyone.
Just get more mass in this program.
Just anybody that could potentially benefit from it, I think would be great.
I mean, who would you want to see?
To me, Sony is a big one just because of the sheer volume of e-waste that gets produced
every time we move to a new generation of console and people just start discarding their
old ones.
HP Dell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, mass laptop.
Look, I mean, Dell made all that noise about their sustainable.
What was it?
Project Luna?
I want to say.
It was a little weird.
I forget.
It felt like posturing.
Yeah.
And now there's just no excuse.
Yeah.
I feel like in discussing any laptop thing, I should bring up shareholder framework, but
absolutely everyone should be doing it.
HP does a relatively good job, actually.
They provide a lot of documentation on their own, not even through third parties.
Which is completely fine.
Which is totally fine.
You don't have to join iFixit.
Absolutely not.
That's not necessarily.
It's a win right now when companies do because iFixit is handling a lot of it.
But if you want to create just as good of a program in regards to offering repair guides,
repair parts, tools, et cetera, to your customers, great.
It does not need to go through iFixit.
I'm happy that iFixit is facilitating all this kind of stuff and I'm happy when people
join, but it is absolutely not the only way to get this done.
If your company's like, no, we have to keep things in house.
That's fine.
Just do it.
Just do it then.
Yeah.
Any other like monstrous tech companies that we'd want to see jump on?
I mean, okay.
Here's another example of, I mean, I guess people don't really repair like a wireless
router.
Yeah.
Okay.
Uh, I mean, I haven't seen that many like break, you know?
Yeah.
Generally they've been, well, I wasn't going to, I was going to say generally they've been
very reliable.
No, no.
Reliable is not the word that I would use, but generally they work as well five years
in as they did when they started.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good way of putting it.
Nothing necessarily to fix.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just broken.
Yeah.
The gecko.
Yeah.
You have to do initial improvements on the subject of repairing things.
Guess what I have here with me?
You asked me what this box was.
Oh, that wasn't even the box I was talking about, but I'm so excited.
This is a Sarah's handcrafted painstakingly crafted retail packaging for the screwdriver.
Oh, wow.
You will be the first to unbox it.
Luke.
So cool.
You want to, you can, you can read the thing on the back.
On the back.
It says this, this is the screwdriver.
We're always, he can read weave.
Is there a typo?
No weave.
I dyslexia the heck out of it.
It's on me.
Jeez.
I don't know how many of these we've printed yet.
This is the screwdriver we've always wanted with mega pros, retractable bit cartridge
and our own shape, feel, and finish.
It's the best of what we saw in the existing screwdriver space.
We spared no expense in trying to make the perfect multi-bit screwdriver for everyone,
whether you're a PC enthusiast, a handy person, or just someone who appreciates quality products
that lasts for years, we are confident that this will be your go-to driver for years to
come.
Thank you so much for supporting this new project with us.
We hope you love it as much as we do.
And then line of Sebastian and texts and live Sebastian in, in, in signing.
And it also shows the bits that it comes with, although you can buy the bit driver packs
if you want more.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Cool.
So you're going to open it.
You're going to open it on the front.
It also shows the spot gloss.
Sarah is a big fan of spot gloss.
So that's like, that's like the, I don't know if they can really see it.
Yeah.
It's hard to catch.
You have to kind of catch it in the light.
Yeah.
I'm trying, but I can't tell.
But yeah, you can see like an outline of the screwdriver and stuff.
We really have spared no expense.
Trust me.
This is actually pretty cool.
I like this.
I always like orange insides as you can see things.
There's another, what looks like spot gloss diagram of the, of the internals of the screwdriver
this time.
And with the bit load again, would you like to hear the notification signup numbers?
That's not final.
That's not final.
Ignore that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
The ratchet is that ratchet's not final.
There's still, there's still some stuff to be done there.
I'm not going to sugar coat it guys.
I'm not going to tell you stuff's done.
If it's not, it's not quite done.
Would you like to hear the latest numbers for signups though?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm not sure if I should be terrified in a good or bad way.
It's at the point now where both of them are looking like they could be a bit of a problem
in terms of fulfillment at the beginning, the screwdriver has a total of just shy of
60,000 notification signups for when it comes in stock.
So given that we were hoping to press go when we had 30,000 in stock, thinking that that
would last until our next shipment would hit us.
We're actually considering delaying general availability.
It may be that on the first shipment, the only way to get one will be to be signed up
for the notification list.
Cause a lot of these people won't go through right away, but I suspect more than 50% will.
It'll be a lot of them.
So you are going to want to get signed up if you want to get one.
And for the backpack, we are at 33,000 signups.
Our first shipment of backpacks is 10,000.
Basically, if you have not yet signed up for a notification, you are not getting one in
the first shipment.
And if you don't sign up for a notification now, you will not get one in the second wave.
You will be waiting a while.
Neither of these are like exclusive productions and stuff.
So if you don't get it, it's okay.
You can get it later.
We will make more.
But the longer the wait lists get, the longer it will take because I mean, honestly, this
is something we've talked about a fair bit on the WAN show and I've talked about a lot
internally lately.
We are very cashflow limited right now.
For the first time, I think since probably the first couple of years, our growth is limited
by how much cash we can deploy at the moment.
It's all out there.
And there's just, I mean, there's, I guess there's a, oh man, should I, should I, should
I break the news?
Which one?
The one, the one down the road.
I think that one's probably okay.
Should I break the news?
I think, yeah.
Okay.
What little...
Do people internally know this?
Some do.
What little cash Yvonne and I had left for business development and expenses that maybe
we would put into, we actually wanted to add another production of backpacks.
So we have three runs that are already booked and we wanted to book a fourth.
But it may no longer be possible because, do you guys remember how when we announced
the lab, I called it lab one?
Well, I think I said explicitly at the time it was called lab one because I knew that
it wasn't going to be the lab.
It was lab one and there would be a, they're more different lab or labs.
We put an offer on lab two.
Yeah.
Lab two is over five times the size of lab one.
Yeah.
It's a, it's a, it's a big boy.
It's a chungus boy.
So basically what I think is going to be happening sometime over the next six months is we're
going to have to do some serious reshuffling internally of all our departments in order
to try to optimize, keeping people as close as possible to their reporting lines and making
sure that everything runs as smoothly as possible as we aggressively grow going into the latter
half of 2022 and 2023.
So we are doubling our footprint.
Meaning that guys need to buy some screwdrivers and backpacks.
I got it.
Should we talk about the pre-order thing?
I got to be honest with you.
We had a serious conversation internally about opening up pre-orders.
One of the ideas that we had was opening up pre-orders to float plane subscribers only.
This has two benefits for us as a business.
Number one is if there's people that are really eager to get their hands on the screwdriver
or backpack and they want to be absolutely first, it incentivizes them to sign up for
float plane, which helps us at a time that we're, we're cash limited right now.
And number two is that it means that the people who are pre-ordering are the ones that are
more likely to understand if there's a delay or a miscommunication or something that any,
any small stumble in the lead up to actually shipping these products, float plane is unanimously
like pre-order now take my money.
I know, I know that's what you guys would say, which is why we considered opening them
up to you guys.
And the problem is that actually it was Yvonne who was like, you can't do that.
Even though she's the money person here, right?
She was like, dude, you said you're not going to do it at this point.
It's not about money.
It's about is your word worth anything or not?
Yeah.
We, we tried to do some stuff knowing that we're like, we decided that we would technically
get like, one of the plans was, okay, if they are a float plane subscriber and they buy
the screwdriver at normal costs, they get like free float plane months.
Like one or two months, it was going to be somewhere between one and two because the
system was going to be way easier to build.
If we just didn't care when someone's billing cycle was, we promised a month and then it
was just, it could be up to almost two, but like, it'll just be whatever's left of this
billing cycle plus the next one.
We were trying to make it like, yeah, less, I guess, predatory that way because we, we,
we were worried about people being like, oh, you guys condemned the best buy thing.
And we were going to be like, well, yeah, but this one, like, I don't know.
It's not the same for like a bunch of reasons and stuff.
But ultimately, yeah, I think if I was right, she's right.
She's right.
We can't, we can't compromise the principles because if we compromise on our don't pre-order
principles, then it means that we are compromising.
You know, people might think, okay, maybe they compromised on the quality of the product
then.
Right.
So nope.
Now to be clear, I'm not saying that we will never open up pre-orders of any form ever.
I think that what valve did with the steam deck is really smart, where they had people
pay a small amount of money to reserve because you want to know how many to make and it's
really challenging.
If it's as simple as just signing up for an email, I don't know what your commit level
is.
Right.
So that, that 60,000 or that 35,000, that could mean anywhere from one to 60,000 people
are going to buy them.
There could be a ton of people who didn't sign up thinking like we, we, we can't actually
build projections based on this stuff.
So I think that exploring something like that in the future might be okay.
I think that if we were to do a product that's more iterative, I would be potentially
comfortable pre-selling it.
Like maybe we do a different colorway of the backpack, for example.
Like we do a, we want to do a limited edition colorway and it's like, guys, look, it's,
it's the same backpack that you know and love.
That almost sounds like a, like a print to order situation.
But in blue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pre-order it.
We'll do a run at the factory.
Here we go.
You know?
Right.
Like I think there's situations where it might be okay.
But once we, once we're farther down a path where we've got this, this consistency in
our, in our delivery and maybe when the world's **** and logistics are not such that it could
be anywhere between a month to four months from now, I don't know, right?
If we have some idea when things will actually arrive, I think the situation could change,
but as it stands right now, I'm not comfortable enough to, to take the money.
So things are going to be really tight for us probably for about the next four to six
months.
After that, our hope is that these products are going to be crazy, hyper successful and
we're going to, we're going to be sort of laughing about, yeah, we're going to be laughing
about Q2 2022.
Remember that?
Yeah, sorry.
If you're done there, I want to be able to open flow plane chat.
So you got to tell me about what's on the store.
Oh yes, we do have a new product.
I can't get wandered shot right now.
All right.
This is one of those things that is the result of Nick and I just having like conversation.
Like he sent me over this thing.
That's like, Holy crap.
Okay.
A shout out our community.
You guys have been amazing.
The LTT store.com artwork on our slash place came in number six and seven for the most
edited pixels over the course of the entire campaign.
And it was all due to the war between LTT store.com and LTT store.com.
So to celebrate this Epic battle, we've created a limited edition shirts where the red outline
represents one and the blue outline represents the other.
It's intentionally a little subtle.
Okay.
To make sure that it's something you can actually wear out in public.
But it absolutely pays homage to both sides.
You know, I feel like they were really good people on both sides.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
That's a, that's a dated reference at this point.
Thankfully.
So there it is.
The LTT store place t-shirt.
This is a presale guys.
So presale, but not really a pre-order because we are only printing the exact number of these
that you lot actually order.
We are expecting them to ship by April 25th.
These shirts are in stock.
It's just a matter of working with our local printing partner to get them all printed up.
If you order multiple items, your whole order will be held until the shirt is printed.
This is to save you and me on shipping costs.
Why are we enriching FedEx and UPS and USPS and all the shipping companies for no freaking
reason.
We're not going to do that.
We'll ship the whole thing together, not to mention burning extra fuel.
So this is it immortalize the epic.com versus.com battle of our slash plays 2022.
We somehow managed to secure a top 10 spot in the most contested pixels, all thanks to
our utterly incredible community.
As for, as for the shilliness, we've got people in float plane, chat, talking about it.
The shilliness of wearing an LTT store.com shirt.
You know, honestly, that's the reason we've never done it.
I I've, I've, I've had it pitched to me many times and I've opposed it every time I've
been like, look, you know, I, it just, it just feels like kind of taking the piss.
But the reality of it is this community built that I'm okay.
Fine.
I'll finally do it.
I'll find.
Cause there's also like, it's super normal.
Like, I don't know how else to say this, but a lot of times when you buy just a shirt from
a store in a mall, it's just the store's logo, but the.com part is like, but it also wouldn't
be, it wouldn't be about this moment.
If you didn't have.com.com in it.
Like maybe we do an LTT store shirt at some point.
I don't know, LTT store or fronting across the front, but I don't think we'd put the
dark.com I'm being asked, are they the new LTT shirts or are they American apparel?
I believe they are American apparel.
We are moving through the rest of our American apparel stock, and then we're going to switch
everything over to LTT shirts moving forward.
Now that we've seen the outstanding reception to our own shirts.
So this will be one of the last shirts that we do exclusively in American apparel.
And it'll probably switch over sometime after this, the reality of it is we didn't probably
order enough of the custom ones to even do a limited edition drop like this, because
we just wanted to make sure that in mass protection, they were still going to be good.
I don't know how long we are leaving this up for sale, but I think Nick and I had talked
about like 24 hours.
I'll tell you what, let's give it till the end of the weekend.
We'll go till Sunday night, give you guys a chance to get in there, but let's get it
going.
Let's get it going.
Cool.
Awesome.
All right.
We should probably do like another discussion topic maybe.
Yeah, we did.
We did one.
All right.
At least one.
Why don't we talk about the Ubiquiti scandal?
Want to walk us through that?
Yeah.
Let me go find it really quick.
Ubiquiti sues Brian Krebs from Krebs on security.
This was actually last week, but we missed it.
And that was not intentional.
Not a word.
That wasn't intentional either.
Not a word.
Low key, huck my phone at my laptop.
Okay.
Yeah.
We didn't intentionally skip it, just the show went on for like, I think it was like
almost two and a half hours or something.
So we decided to bail, which I don't have anything to do tonight.
So let's rock out.
Let's hang out.
Let's do a four hour stream.
Anyways, Ubiquiti sues Brian Krebs on Tuesday.
Ubiquiti filed a defamation lawsuit against Brian Krebs, writer slash owner of Krebs on
security, which if you're into security, you've probably heard of, over his coverage of a
data breach from 2021, which ended up being the work of a company insider.
Pretty crazy.
Apparently the backstory is in January of 2021 Ubiquiti disclosed a data breach that
they said was minor and had occurred at a third party cloud provider at the end of March
with information provided by in quotes, a source who participated in the response Krebs
reported that the breach was much worse than what was disclosed.
Then in December of 2021, the federal prosecutors indicted Nicholas Sharp, a senior developer
and alleged member of the forensic investigation team, accusing him of causing the breach and
extorting Ubiquiti to pay a ransom of 25 Bitcoin to prevent the info from getting posted online.
Krebs included in his December follow-up piece that prosecutors said that Sharp caused false
or misleading news stories to be published about the incident.
Ubiquiti takes issue with that particular piece.
Interesting.
The filing hinges on their confidence that Sharp was Krebs' source for the original story
and that despite knowing this and not retracting the story, they say Krebs affirmed defamatory
statements.
In December, Krebs defended his story, noting that the facts of the article, that it was
more catastrophic than disclosed, are not in dispute.
It's just now known who's to blame for the breach.
Also Sharp has not been convicted.
He referred to his original source as a Ubiquiti employee and Sharp as a former Ubiquiti developer.
Oh, okay, man.
On Twitter, criminal defense attorney and former computer scientist T. Greg Doucette
considered it a SLAPP lawsuit, which is a strategic lawsuit against public participation
and noted that the suit was filed in Virginia, a state without an anti-SLAPP statute.
So here's the discussion question.
Actually there's a couple of discussion questions.
The one that was put in by Jonathan Horst is, is a security breach caused by an insider
less catastrophic than one caused by an outsider?
To which I would answer no.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
If anything, it could be going on for much longer and go much deeper than what otherwise
might be possible if someone was coming in from the outside.
And discussion question number two is, as members of the media who have at times needed
to protect our sources for reporting, do we think it is okay for a tech company to sue
a member of the media over what appears to be a situation where they suspect, but don't
seem to be providing any incontrovertible proof that the source was the person who allegedly
is responsible for the breach, but who hasn't actually been convicted?
I think that if Ubiquiti takes issue with this situation, the correct thing for them
to do is to disclose everything that they know to Brian Krebs, ask Brian, hey, does
this change anything about your article?
And if the answer is no, then they need to go back to the drawing board and figure out
what they have incorrect about their facts if they're doing an internal investigation
instead of filing a lawsuit against him.
Like it's, yeah, this is not cool.
Especially because like there's defamation and there's also kind of like when you subjectively
look at things, you can paint things in a better or worse way.
And if Ubiquiti wanted to not get painted in a bad light for like the rest of ever,
this probably wasn't the way to go about this.
Yeah.
Like I don't really get it.
Did they think that, you know, people weren't going to notice that the people weren't going
to talk about this?
And the reality of it is that Ubiquiti brought a lot of this on themselves by not correctly
disclosing the severity of the breach in the first place.
So honestly, the way that this feels to me, and I'm using my, I'm choosing my words very
carefully here because the last thing I want to do is get sued by Ubiquiti.
This feels to me like more of a vengeful move than anything that's actually about finding
the truth and protecting customers.
Is that, do you kind of understand what I mean here?
Like this, this doesn't seem to be about moving forward in the best way possible.
This seems to be about punishing something that was done in the past.
Jake just added a note saying that Ubiquiti is asking for $425,000 in damages.
So what damages, right?
Because you know, what should you owe in damages for not properly disclosing a breach?
Like it's just, the correct thing to do is say, sorry, our bad, and then do better.
And the thing is Ubiquiti is generally okay about doing that.
They've made mistakes.
They've had some mulligans.
That square AC access point that I bought way back in the day and they knew it and they
mostly dealt with it with their community.
I didn't get any benefit from their mitigations and they didn't, it never worked properly
for me, which, you know, and maybe it was a partly emotional decision, but it's one
of the reasons that I went ruckus access points in my house.
I've had great experiences with pretty much everything else from Ubiquiti as far as products
go.
Everything else about my home network is Ubiquiti.
Almost everything at work is Ubiquiti with the exception of like, we have that, those
Dell 25 gig switches and stuff like that, if I recall correctly.
But you know, I had that sour taste in my mouth over their access points.
And so, you know, you, you know, you guys know how to apologize and move on, but I think
that's, that kind of got lost here, whether it's an ego issue or whether it's some other
kind of emotional issue or whether this is just about, you know, getting back at whoever
it was internally who, who blew the whistle on this, which I also don't think is cool.
This was a big deal.
People needed to know.
I'm a, I'm extremely unhappy with this whole situation.
That's what I'm going to say.
Now, to be clear, that doesn't mean that Krebs is perfect.
And it could be that there's more to this story than meets the eye.
I just, I hope, here's what I'll say, final word.
I hope that when all the information from this case comes out, and this is my personal
commitment, both Brian and Ubiquiti to follow this up, okay, if I forget community guys
hold me to this, I sincerely hope that when all of the details finally emerge, when this
lawsuit is finalized, that there was a very good reason for them to go after him.
That's what I'll say, because right now, you know, all we can do is, you know, all we can
do is sniff.
All we can do is go, how does this, how does this smell?
It doesn't smell good.
Good right now.
Yeah.
It smells bad.
Yeah.
But like you mentioned, we don't know everything.
We don't.
We really don't.
But if, if there isn't like a better reason than what we can see right now, this feels
not great.
So I'm hoping for, I'm hoping for the best because honestly, Ubiquiti is one of those
companies that has come in and been extremely disruptive.
Good disruptor.
They've been an excellent disruptor in a network space that needed disruption.
There's still heavy monolithic company, no service fees.
Yeah.
There's no service fees to use their software.
And when, when they were kind of popping off was when was it, I think it's Cisco that owns
Meraki.
Yep.
That like, not to be a jerk, but fairly predatory set up.
Not a fan of how Meraki works.
And that was right around the same time that Ubiquiti kind of came in and save the day
in that regard.
Especially for, for smaller enterprise stuff that can't necessarily afford massive licenses.
Small to medium business, right?
Like they are, so I want to root for them because I love the product and overall I love
the mission that they are on.
But I'm really unhappy about the situation right now.
The damages being thrown at a blogger.
Yeah.
Is whew.
Okay.
Moving on.
Yeah.
What should we do next?
Uh, Elon Musk, Oh, $3 billion.
Yeah.
Someone else.
No, let's just do it.
So can I just, I'm going to, we're going to go backwards.
I'm going to start with a little paragraph here that, that actually it's a few paragraphs.
Anthony's discussion question segment of this topic is almost as long as his writeup for
the event that took place.
I thought this was still notes about the event.
And I think he's done, I think he's done a great job of outlining the issues here.
Um, you know, what are the implications of Twitter adding an edit button beyond just
fixing typos?
Let's hit one.
We'll talk about that later, but here we get into things that get a little spicier.
So this is Anthony.
Okay.
This is not me.
I'm not, I'm not taking a stance.
No hot takes this week.
Okay.
Anthony says, is the expectation that free speech will be enforced on Twitter going to
make the platform a better place?
Anthony says, Twitter is a platform owned by private individuals.
If people feel strongly about free speech on it, it should be nationalized and made
a public utility instead paid for with taxpayer dollars.
That's how private versus public property works, both in freedom of speech and how it's
paid for.
Well, sort of, unless the private individuals want freedom of speech to be upheld on the
platform.
Right.
But then that's up to them.
Yeah.
But freedom of speech is a right, not a discretionary decision made by the private owners of a whatever.
Well, it can be, because if it's a private establishment, like you're saying you, you,
you don't have the right to freedom of speech.
Right.
Right.
But the private owners of the establishment can discretionary choose to enforce that same
standard.
Sure.
But I think that when, when people talk about freedom of speech, particularly in America,
they're talking about the constitutional right.
I understand.
And so to me, you have to draw a line between discretionary freedom of speech and constitutional
freedom of speech.
And Anthony's not wrong.
The constitutional kind takes place in public spaces.
In public spaces.
Right.
And I mean, specifically speaking out against the government, but like that's a whole separate
conversation.
There are actually things you can't say, um, okay.
Next question.
Is it a good thing that a single person can easily take admittedly incomplete, but such
a degree of control over virtually anything he likes with few repercussions.
I'm adding a little bit of my own spice here, especially when this person has a history
of participating can't be taxed more than he is because he needs that money to get us
to Mars participating.
That's what he's going to use the money for.
He's not going to use it for buying Twitter.
He's not going to use it for buying other stuff.
He needs it to get to Mars participating in Russia style revisionist history, the founder
of Tesla.
Does he?
Yeah.
He literally sued the founders for the title of founder.
He's not the founder.
I didn't know about this.
Yeah.
Like it's just, I, why?
Elon Musk co-founded and leads Tesla.
Okay.
No, no, he didn't.
I did not know that was a thing.
Like seems so weird, but okay.
Anthony says, now these are Anthony's words.
Now Musk already has more money than he knows what to do with and has repeatedly shown that
he doesn't care to use it for selfless purposes.
This heavily implies it's not an ideological freedom or benevolent move.
And even if it were, it's motivated by opposing biases, not neutrality.
Finally, Anthony asks, why is Elon Musk seen as a savior to so many people?
And he says, when people feel helpless, they look to someone powerful who can help powerful
people.
However, are dangerous.
Musk may represent what people want today, but when his views don't align, there will
be literal.
There will be little to stop him from unilaterally imposing them anyway.
If his minority share grows or he could just pump and dump like usual either, or can you
tell him not a fan?
Yeah.
A little bit.
I think he answered every single question that he asked.
Extremely thoroughly.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I the, the guy has a lot of money is extreme amounts of money and on our current systems,
that means that you can do extreme amounts of things, extreme amounts of just about anything
you want.
I mean, honestly, now we're getting, okay, crap.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna go hot take here.
I think we need to choose our male mole male role models better.
Okay.
Frankly.
Um, I, I immediately lose respect for a man who does not take care of his family.
That simple.
Uh, and I think that there's, I think that there's a lot of discussion right now in the
world about, uh, you know, what is masculinity, right?
Does he not take care of his family?
I think there's a lot of discussion around toxic masculinity, um, a lot of discussion
around like what that is, you know, what that means or whatever.
And I'm not getting into any of that, but I think men or women or anywhere in between,
um, if you can't be trusted to take care of your own flesh and blood and the people that
you make commitments to, um, then how can you be trusted in anything?
Does, does he?
Um, so an example, an example is the way that people, you know, idolize someone like Steve
jobs.
Okay.
Who?
Yup.
There's some, there's some, I know about that stuff.
I don't know about Elon, but there are some nasty skeletons in that closet and I just
sit here and I go, I'm sorry.
Why should I respect you?
Amazing movie.
He still hasn't watched it.
I've been trying to get him to watch it for a decade.
I know.
I totally need a decade.
I totally need to amazing movie though.
If you want to hear about some of that stuff, um, but yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I agree with that one.
Yeah.
Like does this apply to Elon?
I don't know.
So I forget the details.
Um, hold on a second.
No, there's, there's, there's some spicy stuff there.
Uh, Oh, Oh, Oh, uh, Elon Musk.
First wife.
Here we go.
There's not a long time ago.
I was a starter wife inside America's messiest divorce.
Oh boy.
So he did, he was with her from 2000 until 2008 I believe.
So anyway, the point is, yeah, I think we need to choose our role models better in general.
Uh, in float plane chat, Laddie has an excellent, an excellent summary of why we just shouldn't
take this guy seriously.
Uh, constant, again, someone else's words, you know, okay.
I'm just repeating them constantly lies about charity for self-promotion lies about his
products and capabilities and is unethical about his treatment of employees.
He's toxic as hell.
So what does he lied about in, in a, in a charity sense?
Uh, I'm not sure.
That's why I said someone else's words.
I'm, I'm totally okay with doesn't, Oh yeah.
Values free speech like a lot, but doesn't value transparency at all.
You know, about the whole thing where Tesla literally doesn't have a press relations department
and it got inconvenient to answer questions like, Hey, why have you massaged the numbers
with respect to the safety of your autonomous driving technology?
And so they just dissolved it.
They just don't answer.
They just don't answer.
Hey, uh, couldn't help noticing that you guys like literally like glued this in or you're
using like a piece of wood here instead of what you're supposed to be using.
Okay.
We're just not going to answer emails anymore.
Like it's actually just, uh, I, I have a very difficult time.
I have a very difficult, yeah.
Also pumped doge coin.
Um, yup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, that whole, I mean, yeah.
Do we have to, I, I, yeah, I'm all I'm trying to do is make sure that things we're saying
on this show is backed up.
Laddie says he recently lied about providing star link to Ukraine.
The U S government funded most of it and he claimed it was all his charity or at the very
least didn't provide the full context.
Uh, yeah, I don't think he claimed it was all his charity.
No, but I mean the tweet was like, you would assume, you would assume.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to make sure the stuff we say is, is backed up.
So maybe lied is actually definitely the wrong word, but allowing people to assume things,
especially when you're someone who knows social media as well as musk does, fundamentally
to me, it's not that different.
Stock 23 says doge is still the best.
All right.
Duly noted, duly noted.
Um, yeah, the bit man says, I do not respect Steve jobs at all personally.
And the stuff in his personal life is disgusting to say the least.
That being said, people respect him for his vision.
Um, do you have thoughts about picking and choosing what aspects of a person you want
to respect and look up to?
You know what, like the problem with that is that
you end up, you end up whitewashing for lack of a better word.
You end up, you end up whitewashing these people and allowing them to continue to exist
in this position of power and respect when frankly, I, I would rather we just see them
for what they are.
I don't know.
I mean, it's, it's, it's an interesting question.
Should we be better off with the billionaires we have or would we be better off taking people
that have actually come from nothing, handing them the billions of dollars and letting them
decide what to do with it?
I think effectively infinite money is going to corrupt the majority of people.
Sure.
But maybe we'd be, maybe we'd be better off if they at least spent some time outside of
the ivory tower.
There's no, there's no functional way to do that though.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
The French kind of figured it out.
There's been a lot of chat about that.
But no action.
I don't know.
It's a, it's a, it's a weird thing to, to say that someone like isn't allowed to invest
in companies anymore is a pretty ham fisted response to, to modern capitalism.
But I'm not, I'm not necessarily sure how to, how to do it.
I'm excited that he, he pushed for the edit option, edit tweet option.
Realistically they were working on it already.
They had already been working on it.
I mean, it's not like this is a new idea.
It's fascinating to me that they weren't done in a week.
Um, like apparently they've been working on it for like over a year and that's just actually
like, I mean, that's extremely interesting at the scale Twitter operates.
Ah, nah, shouldn't matter.
Well, hold on a second because, okay, okay, here, I'm going to play devil's advocate.
Okay.
So part of Twitter's part of Twitter's deal is that because you can't edit anything, it's
either there or you delete it.
It exists in this binary state.
I mean, there's no real thing.
Deleting it is not real though, but okay, sure.
But the point is that from a public, from a public standpoint, so, okay, it's, it's
permanent.
Yeah.
It's permanent, right?
If it goes up at all, it's permanent because people, people have scrapers and people.
So I would, I would guess that in order to implement editing in a way that still has
the integrity of that permanence of the platform.
Very easy.
Facebook already did it.
Just copy them.
I'm just saying it might be, you can literally see revision history and there's a very obvious,
like this post has been edited, like very obvious.
And you like highlight over that and it shows revision history.
It's like extremely clear, been done by other people.
The blueprints have been made for you.
Just copy.
No one is expecting you to come up with the world's most original edit function.
Just do it.
It's like actually pathetic that they haven't done it yet.
And Twitter is a terrible platform and I'm happy that more people are hating on it because
it's trash.
All right.
Okay.
That's fair.
That's it.
Oh, we should probably also bring up that Musk didn't disclose his stake in Twitter
or the fact that he intended for it to be an active stake, which means that essentially
he was able to stealthily acquire the shares without driving up the price because a high
profile person like him coming in and taking such a large stake would have driven up the
price, which is why there are disclosure timelines and there are laws around that.
So I just, we can just put, throw it on the pile of him just who's in it for himself only.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm just, I'm at the point now where I, I just can't.
I can't, yeah, I can't pretend that he's anything other than, I think he's a very public version
of that.
I think there's an extreme amount of these people in, for sure.
Oh, I don't think he's an exception at all.
And I think he catches a lot of flack just cause he talks publicly more than a lot of
the other ones.
But he's just more shameless, which is just, I don't know if that's worse or better.
Do you think Bezos is better?
Probably not.
I mean, we talk about Elon significantly more.
Yeah, that's true.
I think it's, we talk about Bezos a fair bit on like TechLington stuff though.
Just because he's in this industry.
He even has, he even has like a nickname.
We call him daddy Bezos.
Yeah.
That's generally a positive thing.
Oh no, it's not.
Yeah.
Sugar daddy is not a positive connotation, Mr. Lefreniere.
I think if most people called a straw poll, I think if most people called an adult male
daddy, that's a, that's seen as like a, wow, nice.
You're doing good.
You're probably attractive and wealthy, damn.
I think that's what's going on.
I think that's where the internet's at.
I think you are going to be so wrong on this petition to call Linus daddy from now on.
You know what's funny is Jake said it so that the greeting when I scan the ubiquity thing
is actually Papa, but he's doing that ironically because that's like, I think he's, I think
he's using it in a pejorative manner.
Okay.
So guys, let us know.
Let us know.
All right, man, Musk, I've like, I haven't just come out and been like, yeah, guy's a
douchebag up until now because it's not really great in my position, just like issuing personal
insults to giant figures in industries that I will have to cover in the future.
But he's just gotten such a long track record of just being a complete ass face now that
I just, I don't think there's any hope of rehabilitation.
So what, what do I, eventually I was going to have to take a stand on it.
I respect that he's found a way to make industry in certain areas that are hopefully positive
for the world.
And I respect that he did in a capitalistic way.
I don't respect how much money he takes from those things.
And I don't respect the way he like treats his workers and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I have no idea about that.
You were talking about the like family stuff.
I know nothing about that.
I don't know anything about the charity things.
I don't know any of that kind of stuff.
Okay.
Whatever you guys.
Yeah.
By the way, get rekt.
That is...
Welcome to the internet.
Bull.
By the way.
There is no way.
Welcome to the internet.
There is no way.
No way.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
No, no.
That's not real.
That is real.
Straw poll is flawless.
There's no problem with it.
That is broken.
Okay.
100%.
Don't refresh the page.
Don't refresh the page.
Yes!
I am refreshing the page.
Go ahead.
I didn't even register any more votes.
Yeah.
Because straw poll is flawless.
Okay.
There's never been a problem with straw poll.
I don't believe this.
I literally cannot believe this.
You believe whatever you want, Danny.
Yeah.
Floatplane's like, no, I voted no.
I voted negative.
No way.
Too bad.
100% possible.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ukraine says daddy is a sexualized term, buddy.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And no sexualized term in the history of man has ever been a positive thing.
Daddy.
Daddy is creepy.
Okay.
Daddy's creepy.
Oh, so you're calling your employees creepy now?
What?
No.
Because they call you daddy Bezos?
No, I'm calling Bezos creepy.
He's like, he's daddy Bezos.
He's like watching you through your ring freaking doorbell.
Like he's not, he's not, he's not, he doesn't watch you through your doorbell.
No.
You go to a room in his house and it's just monitors the floor, the ceiling, all the walls,
just every single person's doorbell.
They're all covered in Samsung, the wall displays.
Oh my goodness.
100% baby, let's go.
So stupid.
There's no way.
We need to get our own polling system at some point.
Yeah.
Cause what is that?
What's drop holes sucking now?
Yeah.
It's just not counting tons of votes.
It's whatever.
Oh, I'm still going to take the win cause why not?
But it's definitely not counting all the votes.
All right.
Should we, Oh, we should do our...
Let's do our sponsors.
Oh, we should do some merch messages.
Holy crap.
There's gotta be so many cause people are picking up the LTT store.com shirt.
I'm sure.
There's a few.
Thank you everybody.
Thank you.
All right here.
This is so funny.
I don't know if you guys are going to be able to see this from here, but a sales line go
up trying to go as fast as possible, but it was like 200 orders or something like that.
All of a sudden.
Okay.
For those of you who are tuning in late, we're doing a special edition LTT store.com.com
depends on how you look at it, which colors you look at to celebrate being one of two
of actually the top edited pixels on our slash place.
This year was pretty exciting.
It's going to be a limited edition shirt.
They're only for sale this weekend.
So get your orders in if you want to get one.
What am I supposed to be looking at?
Right.
Yeah.
Let's do a couple of curated merch messages.
Adam says, what was the ultimate fate of the mineral oil PC?
Sorry.
What?
Oh, right.
Right.
Sorry.
Um, bell.
You're supposed to read them.
I'll finish this one, but then you're up.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I've been watching since the original build log in 2014.
I personally hope it's on a display shelf as it deserves.
I believe we ended up actually giving away the skeleton of it and the guts eventually
died.
So that's where we're at on that.
What else we got?
What product computer hardware peripherals or consoles or game launch have you both been
most excited about over the years?
That's from Dawson.
Hey, hello to excite really.
Yeah.
The, the halo two launch was probably one of the most fun times I've had.
I remember we, we were lined up, we had a roller book mall and E B games back then.
I think it has had a name change, uh, but EB games back then we were lined up at the
back where like the truck would load EB games.
There was all these people lined up, uh, these dudes drove a truck up and they had a generator
in the back and an old CRT and an original X-Box and they were playing halo one and people
were able to like cycle in and play and EB games employee came out and like started yelling
out questions and I knew all the answers, all the questions.
So I won a bunch of stuff cause I read the like PC gamer article or whatever.
Everyone was just like broing out, having fun talking about halo.
Um, yeah, halo, halo two or potentially a burning crusade, but both of them, this said
launch and both of them, the reason why I liked them so much was the lineup, which you
never really have anymore because I'm gonna just buys things online, but, but lining up
midnight launches were so much fun.
I enjoyed the we launch lineup so much.
I did it twice.
Yvonne and I did it together and it's, you know what?
It's cool.
It's fun.
Okay.
Crazy pitch guys as a date go to, it doesn't even matter what it is, but like go to a midnight
screening or a product, like a major product launch and like line up and camp out and hang
out.
You'll, you'll probably find people to play Pokemon with or like, absolutely, absolutely.
That's an experience worth having and it was in December, so it was like snowing.
We're lined up and outside toys are us.
We did a best buy.
I think it was future shop back then.
Wow.
Yeah, we did.
We did either future shop or best buy, whatever it was.
And we also did toys are us.
And I think one of the reasons is, and we talked about this on the show before passion
is very interesting.
And one of the things you're going to run into in those lineups is often a lot of people
that are very passionate or very interested in a lot of the same things you are.
So conversation is often very interesting.
A lot of people will go to pretty extreme lengths.
Like I was talking about with the guys that brought the truck, like to, to make sure that
it's like kind of fun for everyone around.
Like I used to love midnight game launches.
I would be more interested in certain games if I knew that like EB or a local store was
going to have a midnight launch, I would be like, Ooh, maybe I'll get it.
Maybe I'll look into this game more because I knew they were going to have a launch.
It was fun.
Um, it's hard for me to compare any kind of excitement I could have for something as an
adult to the kind of excitement that I had when I was a child waiting for the super Nintendo.
That was my Christmas present.
It was the only thing that I asked for for Christmas.
I was like, I don't care about anything else.
May I have a super Nintendo?
And um, I think I've told the story of the drama that went on around that where my aunt's
house actually got robbed and my, my super Nintendo got stolen like moments before Christmas
and she had to buy a new one from a scalper so that I'd have something to open up on Christmas
morning.
So I didn't get the two controller, a super Mario world bundle.
I got it with just the one controller.
So I had to wait until I could get my hands on another controller to play two player,
but I don't think anything can compare.
It was 1994, right?
I was eight years old.
Like nothing compares to that.
Yeah.
And that's 95.
So I was nine.
So I was specifically going with launches if we're going with like the first time I
got something.
Well, that was a launch that like it was at launch.
Okay.
So we would like launched and I was like, yeah.
You know, like it's different.
It hits different.
Oh, it absolutely does that.
I remember I don't two times that I have definitely cried in my lifespan were when we first got
an N64 and when we first got an X-Box those, those weren't launches.
That is some pathetic gamer right there.
I'm pretty sure my brother did too.
And it's totally okay.
I remember like with the X-Box one, my dad convinced us that he had bought my mom a crystal
ball.
I don't know why I didn't question why that would have been a thing, but I was just like,
whatever sounds good.
And it was in this big box in the middle and my mom didn't know that my dad did this.
No one else knew that my dad told us this, right?
So my mom was like trying to get us to open it because she's really excited for us to
get it.
But my dad told us like, you can't let her open it because like this needs to be the
last thing.
Cause it's like the really cool thing, right?
So we were fighting my mom to not open this present.
And we thought when we went to go open it, we thought it was for mom.
So like my brother takes one side and I take the other side and we lift it off the top
and my dad's already like unboxed everything and laid it out in like this really cool way.
So we lift the top up and my family's just like, that's for you, but we're looking at
my mom.
So we don't realize until we looked down and it was just, it was very cool.
Yeah.
Did your parents ever pull the, the like the misleading rapping gag on you guys?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I forget what it was.
My parents absolutely pulled it on me.
This is totally unrelated, but definitely a funny story that I want to immortalize.
Did you ever get scammed on April fool's day on a non-school day?
I don't think so.
My dad pulled it on me when I was a young boy.
He got me up on a Saturday at seven 15 in the morning and goes, get ready for school.
Come on, let's go.
We made it as far as being fully clothed, backpack on what like almost to the school.
He goes, it's Saturday, April fools, my, my, my girls got my boy.
So it was easier than usual because their school happened to have April fools off for
parent conferences, so it wasn't a Saturday.
It was a weekday.
They go in, they start miming, getting their, their clothes on and everything.
And they're like, let's go.
He got as far as walking out the front door to go get the carpool, the, the, the kid that
we carpool with to come, to come over because he was late.
And they run out and they're like, and my, when I came home, cause I didn't even know
about it.
When I came home, my daughter thought the most hilarious thing about it was that she
was now on what you didn't organize this.
No, she was well into her second day of having not worn anything but pajamas and she had
made him get dressed.
Oh, I thought it was amazing.
I thought it was amazing.
I loved it.
That's funny.
Um, all right.
What else we got?
So this is from Pierce, but also a few other people have asked, uh, if you have a braces
update, okay, Dr. Y love you.
You did a terrible job of the braces.
I told you, you were doing a terrible job while you were doing it.
I told you specifically what about it was terrible and how it was going to fail.
You insisted on doing it that way.
I told you, you might as well book my followup now because they will need to be fixed.
They immediately broke within two days in exactly the way that I said that they would
break.
I came back and got them fixed.
I said, this is going to happen again.
It will happen immediately.
And here's why.
And you did it again.
So I literally took a pair of needle nose pliers after two or three of them had broken
off again.
The brackets, I ripped them all off and I said, I'm going to a different, I'm going
to a different doctor.
Uh, I went to an orthodontic clinic, um, near the office cause I figured that would be convenient
so I could jet over there during work and come back like on my lunch.
And I got a quotation for both train tracks and Invisalign.
They were actually not as different as I expected.
So I figured, okay, I'm going to do Invisalign.
I told them that and they said, okay, we'd be happy to do Invisalign on you, but we couldn't
help noticing that your top wisdom teeth are still in the way that your mouth is right
now because you've had your bottoms out because they kept getting infected.
And I didn't do the tops because I didn't want to do them all at once and I had such
an awful experience getting the bottom ones out.
I will never forget the sound it made cause they were like deep, like full proper teeth
and they were like buried by gum.
They had to like really get in there and like, Oh, I'll never forget that feeling.
I'm one of those people where the pain at the dentist isn't what really bothers me as
much.
I tend to be kind of, I think the term is sensory defensive.
So certain textures, certain sounds.
I actually find the, for years, this is hilarious.
I went through many cavities, some without anesthetic, like for shallow ones.
I went through many cavities, not realizing that the dentist drill is the one for emptying
out the cavity.
I thought the dentist drill was the rotary toothbrush that they use because that everyone
says they hate the dentist drill and I fucking hate that thing.
Like it makes my skin crawl even as an, even as a 30 something adult man, I am sitting
there in the chair.
The dentist is like talking to me.
I have my hands clenched around something.
I usually have my feet crossed without thinking about it and I have my eyes closed while they're
working on me with that thing because it is so unpleasant.
And so that sound, no, they did not knock me out.
Those of you asking, I don't want to risk going under general anesthetic for such a
minor procedure.
It's not worth it for me personally, that is my personal decision.
You can go under general and not wake up like that.
That's a thing.
And I was not into that.
So anyway, what was I saying?
Right.
So the orthodontist comes back to me and goes, yeah, so what happens then is your top wisdom
teeth are not biting down on anything, which means that they can shift.
Now I would make the argument to them, but the way the gums have covered and the amount
the tops have come down, they're probably not going to keep falling, but that can happen.
And if that happens, it'll shift all the teeth again.
And so they don't want to do orthodontic work on me until I get my wisdoms out, putting
it off and putting it off and putting it off.
So I want to, if you look at the bottoms, it's getting kind of nasty and it's getting
worse.
Like the way they're just like crowding up together.
And particularly now that I have some more room here, maybe they can kind of fix that
even.
And this is with disking.
That was one of the most unpleasant sensory experiences that I have ever had.
Do you know what disking is?
No.
Disking.
So if you look at the shape of my bottom teeth, yeah, yeah.
They have kind of like a V shape.
And so disking is trying to salvage back some of the space between those teeth by doing
what it sounds like, taking a rotary tool and shaving in between them.
So not only was there the unpleasantness of that sensation, but there was the fear that
a slip of what is essentially a dremel tool in your mouth could be pretty awful.
Everyone's saying top wisdom teeth aren't as bad.
I know, I know that it's less likely to get infected because stuff doesn't like fall into
it and stuff and stuff and stuff.
But I just, I just hated it.
The only good thing about getting my wisdom teeth out was that I finally bought a switch
because I was told that I would be doing nothing but sitting and drinking liquids for days.
So I might as well get settled.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm finally going to get a switch.
I did.
And I got completely sucked into a Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, which I still
have no regrets about.
Even though Nintendo is an awful, awful anti-consumer company that I should feel bad about giving
money to.
Yeah.
All right.
Hit me up with one more.
From Dennis.
I think I've been watching for over 10 years at this point.
Remember my first video being you walking around outside with a monitor and opening
it on a random table.
What's your most memorable moment of LTT?
Holy crap.
You know, it's not the first time I've been asked that.
Wow.
But it's, it gets harder every time.
Like I was watching, I was trying to find some clip for some reason.
And I pulled up the wrong video, what turned out to be the wrong video.
And I watched the intro of it.
And it was, it was like a three and a half year old video by this point.
So it was, it was completely fresh.
And it was a video about the, I forget what it's called, the key mouse, the key mouse.
So it's a keyboard that has mouse sensors.
So you can type and mouse without ever actually lifting your hands off of it.
And James was the writer for it.
And we did this, we did this goofy sketch at the beginning where Colton is playing the
role of this presenter, who's pitching, who's pitching a product in a business meeting here.
I might as well just bring it up.
I don't think we have my audio fixed, uh, key mouse L whatever LTT.
Yeah, here we go.
I don't think we have my audio fixed, but that's fine.
We'll just, uh, Tokyo, Japan.
Here it is.
Here it is.
Um, so what we did is we envisioned the pitch meeting and we actually had, um, we had the,
we had the voices dubbed over in Japanese and then we subtitled our own, our own video.
And so it's just this stupid pitch of him being like, well, so that's good, but what
are we going to call it?
And I believe it's a female voice for Colton's like mental, uh, and so it's in Japanese.
Uh, uh, anyway, um, I guess what I'm trying to say is over the years, we've done so many
things that I didn't even remember doing this.
I watched it.
I burst out laughing just watching this.
I was like, that was so freaking funny.
Uh, I don't know.
Well, we use the conference room all the time, Aiden.
We use it and we'll like, if anything, we don't have enough conference room these days.
Yeah.
We use it all the time.
It is more used now than ever.
Uh, I don't know.
There's been a lot of stuff.
Like there's, there's milestones, right?
You know, a million subscribers or the first time we got a YouTube rep or subscribers is
pretty sick.
You know, the new, the new office, like I remember how pissed I was.
I told you this story too.
Uh, we were at PAX.
This was one of the first, maybe it was actually the first, no, I don't know if it was the
second packs, but it was at a very early packs back when I used to do the indie mega booth.
And there was this guy in the indie mega booth and I was, I was going around talking to people
about the games and stuff because I was trying to forget if I was going to do another indie
mega booth video.
Um, and he was like, sorry, who are you?
And I was like, oh, we're this like tech channel.
We have almost a million subscribers.
And he was like, oh, well if you cover my game, maybe you'll get to a million.
And I was like, you know me, the amount of immediate rage was like very high.
I was just like, no, there is no way I am covering your crappy game.
So hitting, hitting that like first 1 million milestone, I remember thinking back to that
dude and just being like, well, you dude, we made it without you.
Um, there's been so many moments like, you know, some of them are, you know, remembering
how hard it was and how hard we worked like that for CES when I had to, I had to fight
so hard just to get a meeting with anybody.
And then there's the ones like on the trip to Intel, I think I talked about this and
Tel Aviv, um, having, you know, literally 25, 30, 40, I don't know, it was like a crowd
of people that had apparently all been messaging throughout the day that they wanted to have
like a photo op and, and, and take selfies with me.
And my handlers kept being like, like they, he actually has to make a video, like video
first video first.
They finally come to me.
They're like, look, uh, the dam's going to burst here at some point.
Like we have to, we have to do something.
Are you okay doing that?
You guys didn't even ask me.
Yeah, I'm totally down.
And the experience, the experience of walking out there with people who are so smart that
they are building the most advanced products, designing the most advanced products on the
planet.
And they're like a fan of me, like, you know, by comparison, I feel like I'm pretty smart.
I'm good at some stuff, but the amount of respect that I have for what they do.
And they're like, they're like, Oh, can I get a picture of the, Oh, this is so exciting.
I'm like, guys, chill.
You're the ones doing the cool stuff.
Right?
Like how mind blowing that is for me as an experience, right?
Where I talk to people that I'm like, and they're like, Oh, Linus, you're super cool.
I'm like, no, I'm not.
You know, like I just, there's, there's just been, it's just countless, you know, this
has been a wild run you guys.
And you know, I'm reminded of bittersweet moments, right?
Like the 10 million subscriber stream.
That wasn't an easy thing for me to say, but it was also cathartic and it was, it was,
I still go back and read comments on it just to, just to see your guys' support and how
much what we're doing means to you.
You know, it's, it's hard to distill it down to one moment.
I don't think I can.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think I can.
I was reminded of Highlander, which by the way, we didn't talk about it on WAN show yet.
Somebody beat it.
Oh really?
Yeah.
You go to Alaska?
Our Guinness world record no longer stands.
Wait, so it must've been continental United States.
We'll we'll, we'll pull it up, but I, I wanted to, I, I, I thought I sent it to Riley.
I'm going to check my scent.
I'll check my scent to Riley cause I want to talk about it.
But Highlander is no longer the world's highest elevation land party.
And these guys went, they went hard.
They like trained for months.
They went much higher than we did.
Oh, so yeah, it must not be continental United States then.
I'll check.
I'll check.
Um, here's the context, which to be clear, it doesn't diminish it at all.
Land show law.
How does this, I think this is it.
Oh wait.
No, this is not it.
Ah, damn it.
That's our place.
Yup.
I'll find it.
I'll find it.
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I think I just did it.
You did it.
Oh, nice.
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Thanks Luke.
Yay.
Here it is.
Ooh.
Kilimanjaro.
Oh, okay.
That's pretty sweet.
Like I said, these guys, that's awesome.
That's cool.
Uh, so let's, uh, the group goes by the name Strike Team Alpha.
They clearly, clearly had us in their radar because there's just like no other reason
to try to set a record for highest altitude land party on land, right?
Like we, man, we had to fight with Guinness to even get this to be a record because it
didn't exist before we decided this should be a thing that you can set a record for.
It's kind of cool that someone carried the torch for it.
I'm kind of happy that we like lost it.
That's cool.
I love it.
So, uh, their elevation was 5,894 meters.
Here they are.
Laptops in hand.
All right.
Um, Strike Team Alpha trained for, hold on a second, months where, where does it say
how many months they trained for preparation?
Here we go.
Preparation for the attempt began in June of 2021 with an hour of physical training
per day, eventually increasing to up to eight plus hours.
They hosted a number of practice land parties in cold rooms and meat lockers to replicate
the cold temperatures of the altitude they hope to reach.
As a result of their dedicated preparation and planning, everything went to plan on the
day of the attempt.
Most climbers would reach Uhuru Peak and take 15 to 30 minutes of rest before returning
to base camp.
The group had to stay there for four plus hours, setting up tents to help endure the
cold, their equipment, hosting the land party and gathering their evidence for the record.
They then had to hike 12 hours back to base camp while tired and hungry with added breathing
difficulties on top of that.
Is that amazing or what?
That is awesome.
How hard did these guys go?
Extremely absolutely annihilate our record.
That's fantastic.
This is amazing.
They've been landing since 2012 and just massive respect.
The only thing that I'm upset about here is that it took me four months to see this and
be like, yo guys, you rock.
You know, you know, games are in a bad state when you have a group of people that have
been landing since 2012 and they're like, you know, it'd be a good idea playing some
CS 1.6 spending eight hours a day training to climb a mountain instead of playing video
games.
I love it.
I also love how neckbeard these guys are.
It's amazing.
The guy on the far left is like down to here.
You know, it might be a good idea for what they're doing.
It's that cold.
A hundred percent.
I absolutely love it.
So man, I'm stoked.
So people are like land party in outer space when no, no.
So that was actually one of the things that allowed or that we were able to lean on to
convince Guinness to allow us to make it a world record because they were like, well,
this is just stupid because anyone could just play computer games on a plane and we're like,
no, no, it has to be on land.
So we were actually like scaling a peak in order to do, we had to explain what a land
party was and stuff.
Right?
Like, yeah, I'm always going to be proud of us for establishing this as a category.
I'm super proud of these guys for taking it to the next level, figuratively and literally.
And I'm excited to see the next challenge.
If the, if you guys have any, any video or anything, we'd love for you to send it over
so we could show it on a, on wan show or something like that.
Maybe have you guys on so you can talk about the experience.
The way to get in touch with us is Linus tech tips at gmail.com.
We want to hear from you, so I'm not even going to try to pronounce your names, unfortunately.
These are challenging for my, for my English tongue here, but we'd love to, we'd love to
have you guys on and talk about it.
Super excited.
All right, we should do a few more merge messages because I feel like these are really piling
up.
So far, I am surprised to find out and inform you.
I'm surprised to discover and pleased to inform you that 461 people will be proudly wearing
LTT store.com on the front of their chest in the near future.
Oh, that's amazing.
You guys are ridiculous.
You guys are absolutely ridiculous and calm.
It's a little bit of both.
Um, okay, yeah, let's do, let's do a merge message then maybe another, another main topic
here.
Chase asks, finally been waiting for this.
I just got my first 3d printer and I'm wondering how you guys integrate 3d printing into your
workflow.
Good Lord.
There's a lot of ways we've 3d printed everything from holders for CPU's and SD cards just to
make them more convenient to organize and keep track of to, uh, you know, 3d printing
replacement IO shields and PCI brackets for devices that otherwise we wouldn't be able
to secure to a chassis to, uh, making toys for my kids to, I mean, what do we not use
a 3d printer for at this point?
I mean, prototyping products for LTT store X, we've used it extensively for that.
Uh, yeah, they're great.
Love 3d printer.
Lots of holders.
I think that's probably the main thing.
Lots of holders.
Lots of holders, but like just lots and lots and lots of, uh, I didn't have, uh, I didn't
have back covers for my game gear.
So Jake, uh, I think he found and then tweaked a design and printed some, some back covers
for my game gear.
So the batteries wouldn't fall out like, yeah, they're, they're just, they're great.
They're great.
Oh sure.
One more.
Cooper asks, uh, what the upgrade to think, provide the best reward for effort and cost
in your new home upgrade series?
The stairs, honestly, not having those stairs there was just so boneheaded.
I don't know why the previous owners didn't do it.
Yeah.
That's a little weird.
Yeah.
Like the fact that there was obviously supposed to be a staircase there and it just wasn't
there.
Super stupid.
Uh, I shouldn't say stupid.
I understand why they didn't do it because they didn't finish that side.
So I guess they figured, well, why bother having stairs there?
Obviously you're never going to finish it if you don't put stairs there.
So yeah, I'm super excited about the stairs.
I'm, I don't know if it's practical.
I don't remember if practical was part of the question, but I'm super jazzed to use
computer and server heat to dump into the swimming pool.
That's going to be awesome.
You're doing solar heat as well.
That too.
Yeah.
They're both going to just dump into the pool, which is crazy and amazing.
Um, yeah, I don't know.
I think it's just a, Oh, Oh, I saw the projector for the first time today.
Okay.
What's it called?
LS 1200 something Epson's new projector or LS 12,000 from Epson.
It's five grand us, which is still a lot of money better than the wall, but the image
quality of this thing.
It's laser backlit LCD.
So there's no, um, there's no rainbow effect.
The backlight is crazy strong for a light controlled room.
It hits 2,700 lumens.
It does up to four K one 20 with like, okay, it's noticeable.
I can detect it.
Most people on earth would not detect the input leg.
So the gaming experience on this thing is going to be flipping amazing.
I'm just, I'm excited.
And the thing I'm most excited about is that to get this level of performance, if we'd
done this even a year ago, would have cost closer to 20, 25 grand.
So yes, that's a lot of money, but compared to what it would have been, I'm just happy
you didn't get the wall.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
It would have been so stupid compared to this.
Yeah.
Like so stupid.
I'm so glad I didn't do it.
That's actually what we went for with title thumbnail and appetizer of the video was like
Jake was right.
Essentially.
He tried to talk me out of it too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Back to topics.
Yeah.
Let's do, let's do a discussion topic here.
Shall we?
Sure.
Is there any that we like need to get through?
Uh, I think we didn't talk about the Sony game pass competition last week.
We could do the great Intel patent kerfuffle.
There's no notes for this.
Yeah.
Because honestly it's sort of, it's one of those things that's kind of a nothing story
and it's all like kind of on purpose under Fox came out afterward and said, yeah, this
was kind of a social experiment, but basically in a nutshell under Fox posted this thread
since the beginning of 2018 I've been following work of the Hillsborough team at Intel looking
forward to having access to the first patent of the disruptive new architecture that was
being developed in 2019 this patent was finally published upon analyzing it.
I was shocked by what I saw and certain that the patent would never be granted in the state
in which it was presented because if you look at many of the diagrams in the patent application,
they are literally block for block copies of AMD's Zen microarchitecture presentation
from August, 2016, right, right.
That's pretty fantastic.
Literally word for word and it goes on and on and on.
Someone just went through the Zen microarchitecture presentation and recreated these diagrams
arrow for arrow, box for box, text for text in some cases and what ultimately happened
is and Intel has actually responded to this and under Fox has come out and said, yes,
I understood this.
Dr. Ian Cutress had a look at it and was like, okay, this is actually not as crazy as it
seems.
So I responded because this was flagged to me where I basically went, this is so brazen.
I'm having a hard time believing it's real and he kind of goes, okay, hold on a second
here.
Have a look at this.
Here's the actual patent.
It's a patent for something unrelated and those AMD slides were used as an example of
existing CPU microarchitecture that Intel's actual thing that they are patenting could
be applied to.
Why Intel used an AMD CPU architecture deck instead of their own is perhaps a deeper question.
Dr. Cutress's take is an intern's summer project, oh, okay.
Said intern took generic CPU architecture slides and ended up with AMD.
Actual patent covers some minor thing to do with security and monitoring.
So it could just be that someone, whether for the lulls or out of ignorance or carelessness
or laziness or I don't know, whatever the reason was, they applied for an Intel patent
using a bunch of AMD drawings and it's not a big deal and it's okay.
But there was certainly a small blow up on the internet when these slides and diagrams
were first brought up and compared against each other.
So I just thought, I thought it was funny and I wanted to talk about it.
Oh, we need to talk about AMD accidentally giving you more gigahertz for free.
The original article here, at least the article we're citing is from Tom's Hardware.
AMD has confirmed that its GPU drivers are overclocking CPUs without asking.
Over the past few weeks, some Ryzen users noticed changes in the BIOS that they had
never approved and upon investigation by the community, it was found that the source of
the unrequested overclocks was actually AMD's own GPU drivers.
In September of last year, AMD added a Ryzen Master module to their Adrenaline GPU drivers
to make the process of overclocking your Ryzen CPU and AMD GPU as simple as the press of
a button.
Previously, it required both Ryzen Master and the GPU driver to be installed.
But with the new drivers, applying a GPU profile can now alter your BIOS settings to enable
automatic overclocking, which as you may know, voids your warranty.
Typically, when overclocking through Ryzen Master or Adrenaline drivers, you're greeted
by a disclaimer that warns you will be breaking your warranty, but the disclaimer was not
being shown in this case.
Furthermore, not all systems are prepared for overclocks and this could result in thermal
throttling, shortened product lifespan or stability issues, which could result in a
worst case scenario in failed hardware or the loss of data.
AMD has acknowledged the issue and is currently investigating, but as of their most recent
driver update on April the 5th, there is no word from Team Red on whether the issue has
been resolved.
I think it's mostly not a huge deal, but it does go to show just how much trust we're
giving these companies and how much control they potentially have over our systems, that
they can just like overclock it without you actually knowing.
Pretty wacky.
I mean, we're seeing that sort of across the board right now too, because you get it with
phones and all this other stuff.
100%.
All right, Mr. Bellavance, if you please.
From Braden.
Actually, wait, I lied.
We have to revisit something here, Luke.
This was not the blowout that you thought it was.
No, you weren't supposed to go back to it.
I went back to it.
You weren't supposed to see, straw poll wasn't supposed to work.
It's supposed to stay at 100% forever.
I still think it's broken because this 974 here is the same 974 that it was when it was
just all that.
I'm sure it still is.
So I'm sure there were a lot more votes than this, but it's just very clear that this was
not as one sided.
It really wasn't going to be a 100% blowout.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it wasn't even-
I knew it was still correct, though.
Yeah, it's debatable.
This is a flawed tool.
Flawed tool.
Okay, sorry.
Whatever you say, Daddy.
Mr. Bellavance.
Just for the record, I'm with Luke.
Daddy is weird, but it is positive, 100%.
As Braden was saying, the jump from 2D to 3D rendering in games was an upgrade in both
visuals and gameplay.
Same to the jump to VR.
Visuals as well as gameplay.
Do you think ray tracing can offer any advancements in gameplay, or is it really only a visual
upgrade?
I think they're very small.
In the same way that physics, real-time physics, was supposed to deliver huge improvements
in gameplay, in some games it has.
Destructible environments absolutely added essential, I would say, essential gameplay
elements to, say, for example, the Battlefield series.
As for how much of the destructible environment progress that was made actually came about
because of real-time physics, that's a spicier topic, but I do see the potential for real-time
ray tracing to allow you to, say, for example, in a stealth game, peek around a corner using
a shiny object you picked up, or something like that.
But I think it's gonna be, uh-huh, polish.
You know, a level of polish on your game, not, um, you know, critical, fun-enhancing...
Not like enabling new gameplay styles.
Yeah, or like core gameplay elements that are gonna make this the game of the year,
you know what I mean?
That's the way that I see it right now.
Also, I take issue with your assertion that the move from 2D to 3D necessarily improved
gameplay.
And eventually, yes, immediately there were some misfires as someone who lived through
that transition.
We didn't figure out how the best way to make people move in 3D was for, like, a long time.
Like a whole generation of consoles.
Like it was, it was, yeah, kind of, it took a sec.
From Joseph, what's your opinion on whole-home wireless charging?
Will you charge your simulator?
Maybe for your new house?
I'd love to see a video on it.
Sorry, which one are similar?
We charge.
We charge.
Uh, where do I find this one?
I don't see Joseph.
We charge or similar, I think he was saying.
Joseph.
It is a long distance or long range wireless charger.
Uh, okay.
So we have actually showcased similar technology on the channel.
I don't know if it was We Charge or something else.
For me, I'd love to see wireless charging just kind of magically happen as you're just
walking around your house, but because it requires line of sight, I just, and because
the modules are currently not at a low enough cost or small enough size to be properly integrated
into devices like this, I just, I don't see, I don't see a path forward for it right now.
It feels like it's kind of stuck in that cool enough to not forget about it, but not revolutionary
enough to, um, you know, really band together, consolidate the industry and push it forward.
That's where I'm at on it.
From Lingfei, have you still been using your LG Tone Free earbuds and still sleeping with
them?
Any updates?
I switched between the AirPods Pros and the Tone Free FP8s.
I still find both of them extremely comfortable.
I do find the AirPods Pros slightly more comfortable, but as long as I don't do two nights in a
row with the Tone Free, they don't bother me at all.
And I love that the battery life is a lot longer than my AirPods Pros.
So that's where, that's where I'm at on those.
Maybe a question for Luke.
Alexander asks, what's the best keyboard for someone with big hands who likes tall, clicky
feeling keys, but doesn't want them to make any noise.
Does that exist?
It's kind of multiple questions.
You're asking for a lot.
Yeah.
There's, there's a lot of, lot of sub questions in there.
You're not looking for clicky, so that kind of narrows down your, your switch selection.
But at the same time, even in the non-clicky space, there's a huge amount of preferential
things that I can't tell you what you're going to like.
In terms of tall, just get like normal size key caps, I guess.
And then you're asking for an entire keyboard.
So yeah, I would just, cause I can't tell you what switch you're going to like.
So I would just find a non-clicky switch that you want to try and just buy a keyboard with
standard key caps because most standard key caps are tall.
I mean, if you want it to feel clicky, but not be loud, something like an MX Brown, something
in that kind of quiet, quiet, tactile category might be nice.
There are also, yeah, if you're, if you want tactile, there are also ones out there that
are more tactile, but still quiet than Browns.
But, but yeah, unfortunately there's a huge amount of like subjectivity there and like
big hands doesn't really come into play with any of it because they should be standard
spacing.
Yeah.
If it's a proper keyboard.
Yeah.
So man, man, as soon as you mentioned Cherry MX Browns, fricking look, I still like them.
I don't even care.
You mentioned them.
I know.
I didn't mention them like people just did that a war starts.
You can thank, you can thank classes for that.
I liked them, whatever.
I'm actually using the G 9 15 these days though.
I got, I don't know how to go back.
I'm using it at work and at home now.
I really like it.
And again, someone with big hands, I really like low profile profile keyboards.
I find okay.
In pure like satisfaction of typing.
I do not like them in the most, but I am way faster on them.
They're just objectively.
I type significantly faster.
Good.
Okay.
Uh, flow plane chat is blowing up asking about the labs lead.
Unfortunately the labs lead had a personal thing to attend to today.
It'll be next week.
I'm so sorry.
Also the last PC build guide you'll ever need is not coming out this weekend because Mark
who was supposed to finish it up today, ended up getting tapped for shooting duty with me
and Jake at my house doing the projector video.
So both of the promises that I made last week on land show are not coming true.
Nice.
Sorry about that.
Solid.
We're still not making pre-orders from Evan.
If you could go back and change one thing business wise about your LTT or NTX experiences,
would there be anything or what would it be?
Ooh, man.
That's a big one.
What would you change about us?
It's hard cause I try not to think that way too much because if you think that way a lot,
you're just going to wallow in regret constantly and that's not actually a productive thing
to do.
Wow.
Look with the life tips here.
I'm just saying, you can reflect on actions and try to use those to inform future actions,
but saying that changing the past would necessarily be a good thing is questionable.
I think with FlowPlane, to talk about FlowPlane, either starting off with the knowledge and
the planning that we were going to be more general or starting off harder.
This is one of those things where it was impossible for us to know we were going to run into this.
When we started FlowPlane, we had no competition and now our competition is Patreon video and
YouTube memberships, which are pretty monstrous competitors.
Having no competition, we were like, oh, we can just keep it lean and mean and we'll get
there.
We have time.
We ran out of time.
We ran out of time.
Knowing that we were going to either be multidisciplinary, which I think is great, or pushing maybe harder
at the beginning, I think would have maybe both been better, but then at the same time,
the road that we went on left us with a very skilled development team that was able to
scale and ended up doing fantastic things later on.
Maybe doing those things would have been detrimental.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's somewhat of a non-answer, but yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's the finest media group, man, again, there are things we absolutely could
have done differently or better.
I could have hired earlier.
I don't think I could have put in more hours, honestly, especially in the early days.
We got by, we just barely dodged so many disasters.
This is even more of a non-answer, but I would almost say there's things that, I don't know
if it was luck or effort, but I'm really happy they went the way they did.
Yeah.
When we got kicked out of the house we were using as a studio, right as we had already
closed on a proper commercial space, so we were going to have somewhere to go.
The timing of that was so narrow.
Yeah.
I shouldn't have done it earlier because it didn't hamper our growth in any way to be
there, and I definitely shouldn't have done it later because we would have literally been
thrown out on the street.
What else can, you know, and so the major moves like that, what could I have changed?
Yeah.
Nothing.
I'm not saying I did everything perfectly.
Absolutely not.
I could have taken a different path.
You have to sometimes fail to learn.
Yeah.
So I think the things where mistakes happened, I think because I would like to say that we
were productive about those mistakes, I think-
I wish I had had a better vision.
But that's impossible, right?
So I don't know.
Well, sort of.
I mean, some people look at the vision Mr. Beast has, for example.
I didn't have a vision like that.
But that was never you, and I think that's okay.
Well, I just mean he has a path.
I didn't have a path.
I was like, best case scenario, we've got four or five people and we're self-sufficient.
I wasn't even thinking about the company being profitable at that point.
I just meant we'll be able to pay everyone's salary and we'll bro out and play with tech.
That was my end game.
I think you exchanged that goal though, because at one point, like you said, that was your
end game.
And then we sort of got there.
And then we were like, no, the stars.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe that was a mistake.
Maybe I should have taken my time.
I don't know.
I don't know at the end of the day what I'm going to look back on.
It's hard to evaluate what the result of those changes would be.
SJ Watt says should have invested in crypto.
Okay, sure.
But that's not like to do with running our business.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Not that I'm saying that you should go in now.
I don't even, I don't know.
I don't want to get involved.
I only have what we've mined in the lounge for like pizza nights, which we now do every
two weeks.
You got to start coming.
I didn't even know that.
Yeah.
Chase organizes it.
And so we're going to, so what we're going to do is we're going to rotate it so that
it happens on different weeknights on each cycle.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
So that everyone should kind of get a chance to come at some point or another.
Yeah, I like that actually.
From Sean, any updates on the Steam Deck daily driver video?
I've kind of given up.
I just like, I gamed on it a lot.
And every time I've used any thing else, I have just used my computer cause it's for
work.
And I don't, I'm not doing, I'm not doing work things in Linux right now.
And then after that, I like actually haven't gamed much lately.
And so it's just not really a video anymore, I think.
So that's where I'm at on that.
Sorry.
Crap.
That's now three broken promises today.
Shoot.
Shoot.
Okay softball question for you after maybe that hard one.
From Liz, any upcoming games that you're excited about?
Uh, yes.
Where is it?
It's in my Trello.
I'll have to check my, I have a personal Trello for like games to play.
Shut up.
So wait, is this, is this a game that's already out?
No, it's not out yet.
It's an upcoming.
You have to pick an upcoming one.
If it's in your Trello, I didn't know if it was like, I want to play sea of stars and
rise of the third power.
They both look awesome.
Never heard of either of those.
Nice.
That's cool.
Um, I feel like I've been saying this for, I think four years, but I'm still going to
say skull and bones.
Yeah.
Whenever it comes out, maybe, uh, maybe 2030, we'll see.
This looks amazing.
Uh, the art looks amazing.
I think you showed me this actually.
Yep.
Yeah.
I just, it looks so beautiful.
I just really want to play it.
And then what was the other one?
I said, see if stars and uh, I already don't remember a rise of the something.
Where is it?
Uh, come on.
Rise of the third power.
Yeah.
It looks amazing.
I, I'm not going to pre-order, but I am excited starfield.
If you told me when I was 17, that Bethesda was going to make starfield and it was going
to come out when I was around this age, I would have been like, wow, I'm excited for
future me.
That's going to be an amazing game.
If you told me in the last few years that Bethesda was going to make any game at all,
I don't think I'd be that excited.
Yeah.
Um, so that's why I'm currently sitting out with starfield.
Hopefully it's great.
I'm going in with extremely low expectations and I suspect that they might, uh, land below
that.
So I'm, I'm concerned, but this looks like another cross code where it's like the game
that I would fund if I started a game studio, cause this is just like what I want to play.
I want a super story driven, like 16 bit style.
Um, wait, coming February 10th, 2022 did they, is this available?
Or did they miss that?
Um, uh, is this out?
This is out.
Oh, I'm totally gonna play it.
Nice.
Cool.
I'm excited.
Oh, it's deck verified.
Heck yeah.
I'm going to buy it tonight.
All right.
There you go.
All right.
Hit me.
All right.
From Joshua.
What were the best and worst parts of working at NCIX and how are they different from founding
and heading Linus media group?
Hmm.
Uh, okay.
Best and worst parts of work.
Okay.
The best part of working at NCIX is that I basically got a, uh, a business education
while being paid to do it.
I am extremely glad that when I played the game of life, I took a gamble and I skipped
school and I went straight into a business that was big enough that there was a lot to
learn and knowledgeable people to absorb from, but small enough that I could legitimately
affect change and make my way to the top of the company in a span of just, you know, four
or five years.
Um, I am super grateful for my time at NCIX.
I definitely worked hard to make the most of it.
They didn't hand me anything, but, um, I was given the opportunity to become more knowledgeable,
uh, more patient, um, to learn how to take risks, to learn how to calculate my risks.
Uh, so many of the things, both what to do and what not to do.
So, so many of the things that I now consider just core parts of myself, even though they
weren't, I learned at NCIX, um, you know, things like our, our summer, you know, summer
of fun, I ripped off the whole thing directly from NCIX, even the name.
Uh, so we just have, uh, in the summer we do a budget per, per employee, uh, and you
can, as long as you have what at some minimum number of LMG creator warehouse or float plane
employees that all do the activity, then you can write off up to a certain amount per get
together, just to encourage people to do stuff that's fun together outside of work hours.
And also even do stuff that they otherwise might not like, maybe you wouldn't go go-karting
cause it's like pretty expensive, but if it's free and the only cost is that you like have
to hang out with colleagues.
Well, Hey, Oh sure.
Yeah, I'll go go-karting.
So, uh, that was ripped off directly from NCIX.
And then the part of that, that I learned not to do from NCIX is, um, unceremoniously
terminate a program like that without replacing it with something else.
My, uh, my least favorite part was getting paid below minimum wage.
Um, yeah.
And I don't know, I feel like I was so detached from the actual company other than getting
paid below minimum wage that I don't have a lot of particularly favorite parts about
working with NCIX.
Hanging out with me.
It was basically just hanging out with Linus.
No one else there even knew who the hell I was.
That's true.
Like I didn't like interface with the company.
Well you usually showed up like after hours.
Everybody was gone.
Yeah.
It was just like you and me.
Yeah.
They're late.
Yeah.
I'd enter the studio directly.
Like I usually didn't even come in the front doors.
We'd like wander around the warehouse and like grab things every once in a while.
Like I knew I could probably like map out the layout of headquarters now because I remember
like I moved around the building a fair amount, but no one was ever there.
So I don't know.
And then for me, I'd say the worst part was dealing with people that I, whose skills I
didn't respect.
People who I felt were in jobs that they were not qualified for and ended up wasting a lot
of mine and the company's resources.
I don't like waste.
I don't mind spending, but I hate waste.
That's what I've told every labs person who has joined so far is your job is to think
pontificate plan because there's no website to publish to.
So your job is to do all of these things.
Spend money.
Don't waste it is what I, what I've told them.
Yeah.
Hit me again.
All right.
From anonymous.
What's your most underrated battle station upgrade?
Hmm.
I think that monitor upgrades.
It's people understand it now, but back in the day, a monitor upgrade was considered
like kind of the last thing you would do.
You know what?
Nope.
I'm changing my answer.
Mouse pad.
And that's not just because we sell mouse pads.
We sell mouse pads because I'm super picky about mouse pads because I was the kind of
person that used a piece of paper for many years of my life.
And when I finally got a good mouse pad, boy, did it ever make a huge difference for me.
And I've been a believer ever since.
Every once in a while I'll end up traveling and I'll forget to bring a mouse pad and I'll
get handed some stupid like freebie mouse pad because most companies don't invest in
proper mouse pads for their workstations.
And it just, it sucks.
I hate it because a proper mouse pad makes a big difference to the comfort of your arm.
It makes having a little bit of cushion.
It just feels, it feels better.
It tracks better.
So you're not going to miss click when you're aiming for something small, you're moving
quickly.
Yeah.
I'm going with mouse pad.
Yeah.
I'm going to kind of cop out and just say general peripherals as well.
Back when I was a kid and I was trying to get into, I was trying to get into counterstrike
and, and call of duty, like pro teams.
Uh, I was on this, I was on this counterstrike team and our lead wouldn't have a coach, but
our like best player would do these workshops with people.
So he was trying to like train us to like aim properly and do all this kind of stuff.
And he would dive into our mice and our like keyboards and, and most pads and stuff.
Right.
And this was like, this was way longer.
I was like 14 or 13 or something.
And he would like, if anyone had a wired mouse, he'd be like, dude, no, cause this was back
when wired mice weren't very good.
Um, wireless.
You mean?
Yes.
Sorry.
If, if, if people had wireless mice, he's like, do you know, um, and he would, he would
go over consistency like crazy and all this stuff.
And I noticed pretty early on, like everything he's focusing on is peripherals and our way
that we interact with the game.
Right.
And people that had lower performance computers, it was like, yeah, that wasn't great.
But what he was way more focused on was how we controlled our, our actions and stuff.
Right.
And it's, I mean, he was right in a lot of ways.
I'm going to come up with another one, air conditioning, air conditioning, underrated
big deal.
When you're comfortable, you're focused.
When you're not comfortable, you're not focused.
And actually that's funny, uh, bells, like one of our sponsors secret lab.
Yeah.
Chair's another big part of being comfortable while you're gaming.
Yeah.
I think I agree with chair, except I spent like a pretty high portion of my life sitting
on exercise balls.
Yeah.
I thought that was great.
So, well, I don't know.
Yeah.
Awful gaming on an exercise ball.
Yeah.
I don't even want to talk about it.
Uh, from Tyler, what hardware features or changes can you absolutely not get behind
it?
Oh, uh, well, I mean, an obvious one would be hole punches or notches and displays.
I went out of my way to completely avoid that stupid trend.
Um, man, can you absolutely not get behind?
I'm trying to think.
I'm sure there's some, but I'm trying to think
in hardware where you have to pay for both the hardware and the subscription.
I'm kind of a pickle.
I'm a pick a lane kind of guy.
I don't mind paying a subscription for something.
I don't mind paying upfront.
I don't like both.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you're going to subsidize your shiz, then fine subsidize it.
What else?
Conrad says light gaming mice bell says non-removable power cables, Apple.
I mean, I hope that's not a trend, but I was kind of trying to think trends.
Doing anti rights for repair.
We don't like changes.
Yeah.
This is not an absolutely cannot get behind, but I'm not a fan of it.
I understand it's probably progress.
It's probably better.
Um, but the overclock ability of things trending downwards.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's probably better that things are just as fast as they can be out of the box, but
it does make it more boring.
It's hilarious to me that water cooling is a bigger industry than it's ever been.
Even though there is less point in water cooling than there has ever been.
Yvonne, we're on the last merge message.
She needs to go and I need to go.
Um, and I guess that's it then.
I feel like I should give you guys a final tally here.
Um, so far there are, this is so stupid.
Uh, I mean like stupid in a, Hey, thanks guys.
Y'all are great.
There are 558 of you that are actually going to wear LTT store.com on the front of you.
And um, thank you for that.
Uh, cable ties are low key.
One of our top selling items now that we have all the different colors and the larger packs.
That's cool.
Um, so that's pretty cool.
You guys, you guys want some inside baseball, you want a little bit inside baseball before
we go?
Uh, desk pads and water bottles continue to be some of our biggest movers.
I love our water bottles.
I think they're great.
I had a conversation with Kyle about why you're not allowed to dishwash them.
I was like, Hey, um, I've always wondered about this because if there's a vacuum in
there, like the heat surely couldn't cause a pressure problem.
And he's like, no, it's a melting issue.
The way that they seal the vacuum is with a glass bead that they melt into here.
And the problem is that when it heats up and expands and then cools and contracts, glass
and metal do not heat up and expand at the same rate.
And that's why these thermally insulated water bottles are not safe to put in the dishwasher.
Makes sense.
It's not that it's like going to explode or something.
It's just that it will could damage it.
And I have run them and they have not been damaged, but it's not a guarantee.
So that's why we say that you can't do it.
And I've seen people complaining about how our water bottles are not dishwasher safe.
No insulated water bottle should go in the dishwasher.
So anyone that you are putting in that is also insulated, you're doing that contrary
to the manufacturer's guidance.
We just don't realize it probably because we try to be really upfront about that kind
of stuff.
All right.
I think that's pretty much it.
We will see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Bye.
Oh, uh, that didn't work.
Uh, okay.
Uh,
bye-bye.