Oh
Boy it's show time
Yeah, we got this we got this there's
When show time a little while ago, but not a ton of news, but there is some news
Oh, there is definitely some news that I miss something. I well enthusiastic
I am like all upset about right to repair crap right now. Oh, yes
Okay, so there was there. Okay here. What what what? What is that here Apple iOS 11.3?
Updated and left some repaired iPhones. I believe specifically third-party repaired iPhones with
With no touch functionality, but I first read this. I thought it meant like it wouldn't fingerprint you. Oh, okay
No the screen to know much worse than that. We're talking iPhones that worked and were bricked by software
Yeah, California is the latest state to explore net neutrality protection after the FCC repeal and
Google chat is set to rival iMessage and displace SMS
Okay that I really want to talk about too because you know, hello. Yeah
Yeah, that whole team was like disbanded now and moved over to this. Okay, Google just straight-up cannot make them make up their mind
Okay. Oh this I plan to talk about for a fair bit. So Oppo
Oppo digital to be clear Oppo digital not Oppo is ceasing development of new products
And if you guys are thinking why aren't they like a gigantic bone manufacturer Oppo digital is not yeah
And this is important for a number of reasons. So we're gonna get into that after
The intro which will work maybe yeah. Oh
Some people don't like your don't like your color my color. They're like, it looks like an Instagram filter. Oh
Oh, oh we have sponsors but if it's meeting but if it did it
What do you think
Okay, so here's the problem it's hard to tell because this is a gaming monitor
And whoever's watching might be on I don't know something else something else
But I can tell you guys that looking at it on my blade. Anyway, I
Like I kind of look like that in person. Maybe it's a little rich. Maybe it's a little rich
It's not that far off though. Like our shirts are actually, you know what? It's it's not far off
Yeah, I mean part of why we look weird might be that
We are really popping out as colorful against sort of a more have like neutral set. Will this work?
I guess that would do that either way, but there's a light like like I can almost touch it
Yeah, I do that and there's one on that and I would almost be able to touch this one if my arms were long
Because I wasn't a small human. Yeah, like it's it's a very different set up than normal. Ah
I haven't even seen you this week. No, I've barely seen myself this week. Like what is going on? I've barely slept this week. I
Went to bed at 5 in the morning last night. I
Skipped my stream on Wednesday. I'm skipping my stream tonight
This has been a rough rough week. We'll make it though. Next week is looking good
If I get if I get everything done this weekend next week is looking good. Okay, sweet. So this is all floatplane stuff
Yeah, so I had what I thought were some really good updates for you
And then I think I ended up crapping on you you did towards the second half of those great
That was a good little bump partway through the week. Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's
Okay, there is a lot going well just we're not explaining any of this stuff
Yeah, we talked about most of it, which isn't very helpful. Yeah
We're we're still progressing things are going well, dude. There's the
PayPal option on the new site should be ready fairly soon
There's been a lot of minor fixes that have come out
There was one that a lot of people were complaining about which took us a little while to kind of figure out but the resolution
Selection was not showing up for people with ad block. Yeah
It shouldn't matter. There's no ads on floatplane. It shouldn't matter but for some reason that was a thing so
We ended up fixing that which was which was nice. That's I don't think that's to be clear
That wasn't something we were doing intentionally. No, it was just it was something to do with the
element that is our resolution control thing looked like
Third-party thing being loaded or something like that. Yeah, so that's now been fixed. So that's good
Yeah, so and there's been other like there's been a lot of improvement things my like personal week
Like doing the stuff that I do was just rough. The platform is doing great
Just my like stuff was has been and when PayPal rolls around by the time by this time next week by Wancho next week
I think we'll have a new creator to announce. Yeah
Maybe two depending on whether one of them who I'm just gonna say it who is a little bit lazy
One of them who's a little bit lazy depending on whether that one gets back to me with some paperwork
Whatever III would tell that person to their face. Yeah. Are you asking? Yeah dog
He knows what's up
Hey, hey look look I wouldn't say everyone's gonna know I wouldn't say anything about
anyone on land show
That I wouldn't say to their face because I know that watching land show if they weren't too lazy
It's pretty straightforward. I
Don't think anyone's got he's probably just got lots of other important things as well look I've heard it from
this person's manager
I've heard it from this person directly and
I have made I have made my own
Observations about okay. I like this person very much. Me too. Well, they're a disparaging very it's not disparaging
It has to be untrue. Okay, very talented creator could probably be much bigger if
The sleeves got rolled up a little more often Wow
Wow
That's a compliment. That's a compliment kind of it's a backhanded compliment
So it's a pat on the back with a spiked glove. It's a subset of compliments. Can we agree on that?
Yeah
All right, oh my goodness, um, well then all right, we've got
Great topics for you guys today. I want to hide behind the intro
I'm coming back. I'm coming back. I got this. Oh, man
Okay, why don't why don't we jump right into one of our bigger topics of the week?
So this would the original article here is from motherboard vice calm
By the way, go ahead and pop this up here sharing in the chat and bringing up on screen and talking about stuff
It's difficult when you're gone. Thank you for coming back. Oh
Yeah, oh, you're very welcome. I was a lot of stuff to do. I was in China last week
That was a lot of fun. We had a lot of people ask us if we were planning a collab with strange parts and
No
We weren't planning a collab. Oh, okay
Uh, you know, you know what? I guess I guess I better just what?
No, sorry. That one was an accident. The cable management on my mouse is a little tight here
I was so excited and you made me so sad for such a short period of time. Okay, we were not planning a collab
But actually I had one of the best in flight experiences I have ever had on my way to China
So I did a daytime flight for a change instead of a red-eye. So I was awake for the plane ride
Yeah, and my Wi-Fi was
Banging I was getting one megabyte per second downloads
For like long stretches of what was a nine or ten hour flight or whatever. It was. Yeah, dog
It was nice to China from here. Yes, sir
Wow, and they did warn me that there would be some some kind of sketchy spots over Russia and over China itself
But they actually were very short and speeds were just slower not bad. Okay. Yeah, so I was really impressed
And so I got a lot of work done
I actually got something like 200 emails done while I was on that flight including several to Scotty
Cool
so we actually synced up while I was on my way over there and we ended up working out a plan for
getting together and what we ended up doing was
Exploring the sort of the electronics market in Shenzhen. Yeah, cuz I saw your tweet saying you were doing that with them
So when you said you you didn't do a thing, I was really confused. No, no, no, we did get together. It's called a
Walk Kong Bay Hawk Wong Bay
Whatever. Okay. My Chinese is not great. I made him say it in the video. Yeah, just like it seems to be quite good
It's okay
It's my favorite thing is when he says something I'm like wow
I'm impressed and then the person like does a little like shuffle back slightly and then responds in English and I'm like
Come on, he tried so hard that sounded so good
ouch
Yeah, so so we got together and we started out just kind of like poking around
But what I realized was that place is so fast and there is so much stuff in it
that it is like
It's overwhelming. Yeah, like it's completely overwhelming like it if you want laser pointers that can burn stuff
You can find that if you want what are apparently really cool microscopes
I'm not much of a microscope nerd, but what are apparently like super cool microscopes you can you can get that stuff
I know Lou from Unbox Therapy ended up like going on a shopping spree ultimately, but I'm
I'm not much of a shopper. I actually buy very little stuff other than like yeah you too
Yeah, oh, I thought you were I thought you were gesturing know something. Okay. Yeah, but like we're both kind of
cheap
So I'm not the kind of person who just like walks into a mall and is like, oh wow
I need to buy all the things my mom bought me this shirt. Thank you mom
So what I realized is I needed an objective. So what I found out was that his editor is actually based in
Mexico, okay
And is running like a very very like very run-of-the-mill and not current gen
Editing system so I was like, how about this?
Let's see if we can build a system here a video editing system for cheaper than if we just ordered it off new egg.com
Okay, so certain parts like graphics cards, for example mining by the way
Huge in Hwasong Bay. I know I said it wrong. I'm sorry, but whatever huge that huge in China in general
So if we had wanted mining stuff
Then there's lots of selection but mining pricing and then the effect that mining has on pricing of components like GPUs
Is pretty much sort of what it is
It's like it's like people who travel expecting to get a deal on a gold bracelet. Yeah, it's like
Gold is a commodity. It costs what it costs and you can pay in whatever sort of rupees or shekels or or
Dong or whatever you can pay in whatever currency you want. You're still ultimately paying what you're paying
So certain components like graphics cards there were not deals to be found
But then there are there are other things like I found this like 1600 watt power supply that was like 80 bucks
Oh, I didn't buy that one because I picked it up and I was like, oh wow
It's far too late for what you're saying. There is nothing in there
But but like cases you think given that they're probably manufactured up the road that cases would be pretty cheap
So it turns out cases are actually
Well, okay. The case is a cool part of the video. Okay, you're gonna enjoy that
So anyway, I was like, okay, let's build an editing workstation for his editor and then halfway through he's like, you know
What screw my editor?
I'm gonna give the system away to my viewers
So what I think what's actually gonna happen is he's got a video of kind of his side of this whole interaction and
He filmed so stealthily. I even asked him at the end. I was like, did you film anything? He's like, oh, yeah
I feel like most of it. I'm like, wow
He's always doing that stuff for as he's like puts his camera on the counter and he's got them. Yeah, like
That guy is stealthy for like tall white dude in China
So so he's got his side and we've got our side and then he's gonna be doing a giveaway of the system that we built
To one of his viewers cuz I don't know
I don't know if people know this in general, but he's trying to go full-time youtuber. I didn't know that
Yeah, like that has been his intent
Okay
So what looked like just sort of a weird side project was actually just a pretty focused pretty smart, dude
Making some super explosive videos to get his channel kick-started. Okay. Yeah
Yeah, if you guys don't somehow know who we're talking about
It's Scotty from strange parts. You can check out the strange parts YouTube channel. Yeah, so he's
More likely to be recognized as the guy who built his own iPhone out of parts or the guy who?
iPhone jack or a headphone jack to an iPhone
All right, people are gonna be like people are gonna be flipping their crap. Okay one spoiler
We end up with a Ryzen system. Oh
cool
Cool. Yeah. All right, so
Uh, let's go back to what I was planning to talk about which is the new iOS update that right, right
This this is what got me talking about him because his whole thing is like
Hacking phones apparently. So anyway new iOS iOS update killed touch functionality on iPhone 8
Motherboard device calm you guys got to be careful because that looks like iPhone 8s
That does that does quite directly look like iPhone 8
I know it is technically not grammatically correct
But if you throw an apostrophe in there people will know sort of inherently that you mean iPhone 8s. Oh, it's a common
That's not what they mean
Wow
Yeah
There's no iPhone 8s
Yeah, I know. So yeah, if you if you put the apostrophe in there like little pro tip
It's incorrect, but people will know what you mean at least. Yeah
Yeah, or you can do iPhone 8 phones or something like that, but I don't know if that's good for SEO
But then they don't have that
Weird. Yes. Yes is sort of a bad idea. Anyway, so what went down here was
Apple rolled out iOS 11.3
And if you've if you've ever sort of looked into right to repair and Apple's reputation around this whole movement
This probably won't surprise you that much because they've been known to do things like
Not provide third-party repair shops with the with the tools that they need in order to retain touch ID
Functionality on iPhones with replaced home buttons and this was far more of an issue with a phone like the iPhone 6s
Which had a hardware touch button or excuse me a hardware home button. That was not solid-state
So they switched to the solid-state button with the 7 which is much harder to break whereas those those clicky buttons
No, that was a pretty common piece to end up damaged on the iPhone leading up to that time
so so what would happen was people would take it into a third-party repair shop and they would have a
Perfectly authentic button and a perfectly authentic phone and they would put them together
but without
Apple's
Special sauce they wouldn't be able to make it work even though that has nothing to do with the secure enclave that
Actually holds the fingerprint information. This was just Apple being restrictive because they can be restrictive
So anyway the issue affected phones that had their screens replaced with aftermarket displays ie
not repaired by an Apple authorized facility and it is believed to be because of an
Incompatibility between a small chip that controls the screen and the aftermarket displays
So it's possible. This is an accident. It is possible that it is something Apple did on purpose, but either way
John is saying that our apostrophe thing is not incorrect
It's an exception and you can put it after a number if it's a single digit. Oh
Well, thank you. John Martin appreciate that. Okay, so my confusion there though would be if it was an iPhone 10
Yeah, you would say iPhone tens
Yeah, but in text. Yeah, but you would say so Oh X because he's single-digit. Oh, right. It's an X
Yeah, so in this case, yeah our little thing works for ya dramatically correct. Hooray the tens gonna wreck everything
So I guess this whole this whole
Reaching the topic of broaching reaching broaching whatever on the topic of right-to-repair
Yes, I will have a response
I don't know if you've been following this drama, but we did a video on how our iMac Pro is still broken
and
Wow, pretty much everyone and their dog
Has made a response one of the news articles about it on an Apple sort of centric news site has a thousand comments on it
Thousand comments on it. Yeah. Wow, like this when this went viral and sort of very general
Sentiment the general consensus depends on who you ask if people are more of like if they're more in sort of the techie
PC DIY crowd they're like, wow, this is ridiculous. Yeah if they're in the
Um, not that crowd Cupertino crowd, ah, let's let's call it that if they're in the Cupertino crowd
Then it's my fault for not reading the terms and conditions that
Stipulate that Apple doesn't have to repair something that has been modified by a third party
So, okay, I
I actually have a lot of notes made for this video already will be addressing the vast majority of the
Comments that people have made exciting. We don't do that that off articles that have been written
Well, the actually we wouldn't be doing it except that we still need to fix the freaking iMac Pro
So that's in progress. We are working on a solution that will allow us to get parts and fix it
Okay, it's gonna be a weird solution and we're gonna be talking about
The hoops that we've had to jump through in order to get there some of the hoops that were available that we chose not to
Jump through whether because they were too expensive or too sketchy or whatever else the case may be
But this this saga is far from over cool. There is one thing that I absolutely want to address now and
Tell you what, I haven't screenshotted anything yet
So if you're one of the tool sheds out there who posted that this was the reason that they denied the repair
You can go back and edit your comment and you won't end up in the video. Okay, a
Shocking number of people
Said that even though Apple never said this and it's nowhere in the screenshots and it's nowhere in the policy
and it's certainly not in the video a
Number of people have concluded that Apple didn't repair it because the cost of the parts
I mean you guys totaled this thing the cost of the parts is so high that it's more than just buying a new machine
Anyway, so you should just buy a new machine. What are you stupid?
Okay
Even if
all of the parts that we listed in the video the display the main board and the
And the power supply even if they're all dead which they may very well not be you can actually have a component
short out and
Be protected by the onboard circuitry that does exist in
Some cases if you get lucky you can actually have sparks fly off a board and have it live for years
Even if all of the components that we think could possibly be dead are in fact dead
that is a
thousand dollar machine
you got to be drinking some pretty freaking amazing kool-aid to think that a monitor a
motherboard and a power supply are worth
$5,000 it's at least a $3,000 power supply $3,000 power supply is that you get off my show
I don't even know who get off my show. You don't even work here
That's fair the CPU alone is
like five
$700 yeah, the 32 gigs of DDR4 ECC RAM. Yeah, that has a value that's expensive the chassis remember
This is an Apple chassis. It's a special chassis that costs money the SSD the dual SSDs
Those are still good. So people running in going
Oh, well, huh? I mean you broke this stuff. It's total write-off total write-off that that's why they wouldn't replace it
The cost was too high and I had one I had one guy being like that's like, you know
It's gonna be $300 of labor plus the cost of these parts is more than the cost of the system pretty drunk. Oh
Man like the amount of like the amount of
worship
that goes on here just
Boggles my mind it baffles me. Anyway, there will be a video. I promise it will be epic
And I don't know if I'm ready to promise this yet, but we are definitely working on flying. Mr
Lewis Rossman out here. Oh help me put this thing back together. Okay, that would be awesome
so I have nothing else to say about it until the video comes out, but
It's gonna be fun
We're gonna have some fun. We're gonna we're gonna really cool
You know, I don't drink but we'll we'll we'll figuratively pop some brew skis and fix an iMac Pro and talk about how that's going
And it's gonna it's gonna be a good thing. It's gonna be a good thing
Yes
Brew skis for me. Oh my god that that have you already started turn that that bullet
All right, um speaking of drinking hey, by the way, what time do we start tomorrow?
Okay
I'm just making sure
I've been very busy
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Okay, and then I'm going to change. I'm gonna leave that savage tricky one on for a bit
I'm just I'm gonna have a time delay. It's like rooting through like a treasure chest. I know right
They sent so much maple buffalo bacon, and I'm so excited
I'm gonna have some but I'm gonna have some of the sriracha bacon first
I'm in I meant no I'm not no I'm not sharing that kind though. It's for me
They sent it because they know I like it. They didn't send it because they know you like it Ed
Maybe if they send even more next time I will consider sharing the maple muff Buffalo bacon
Yeah, actually yeah, I'm gonna put this over here. You know what I'm gonna put it right next to me
Okay, so it's not being hidden. It's being put in like a high-threat area. That's right. You got close. You're gonna get swatted yo
No not that we're on the platform that is like popular on
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Some of the favorites are a sriracha bacon. This one's actually really good. I don't know if I've tried this one before
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They're maple buffalo bacon. It's traditional
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That one's really good
Dang sriracha bacon. Mm-hmm. That's right
Yes, uh-huh, I've technically only claimed the maple buffalo bacon, uh-huh, huh
Only one piece. I might claim this in the future though. It's really nice
alright
So the original article here is from ours technica.com
But it would appear as though
California is the latest in a number of states that are exploring
Net neutrality bills to protect net neutrality in spite of what's going on with the federal government
So basically they're attempting to restore net neutrality provisions that are similar to the ones that
Were used by the FCC before their recent repeal
However, in addition to prohibiting fast lanes throttling blocking and paid prioritization
They want to go a step further to prohibit zero rating
Which is when the use of a certain site such as Netflix doesn't count against a user's data cap. Now, I
Have mixed feelings about zero rating it sounds cool
like at first
the issue with it the big the big issue with it is say
One of these ISPs owns a service which is really common
They could zero rate their own service
So that you subscribe to them instead of someone else. So John's coming
but in the meantime, I want to present my
He's deleted all his notes. I I want to I want to okay. I want to present my sort of
dumb consumer who's very selfish
Sort of point of view and go well, I can see things about this that I would really like
Because zero rating can be applied in that way where someone like a Comcast
might
Say that okay, you know watching watching shows from Comcast who owns Comcast again, or who does Comcast owner?
NBC, okay. So, you know NBC streams don't count against your data usage
But there are cases of zero rating where they aren't implementing it on their own
Services like for example t-mobile. Yeah allows I think it's a YouTube streaming
Doesn't count against your data plan
Well, I mean Google doesn't own t-mobile and vice versa. This is just a handshake deal, which
Again on the surface can look really good for consumers
Because hey, you can watch all the YouTube you want if you're a t-mobile
Theoretically that hurts like twitch and whatever else but or some, you know young upstart video streaming platform
Hey
And that doesn't have a chance to talk to t-mobile about such an arrangement
So John's gonna tag in for me and talk in a little bit more detail about oh, that was why you're here, right? Yeah
Yeah, no, no feel free to explain it in better detail than one
Okay, so we're looking at we're looking at the California bill on neutrality, right yeah
Okay, so which way which bullet point are we on because the last bullet point is here
We've we've only gone through a few of them, but we've talked about this kind of thing on the show before
So I think a lot of people kind of know. Okay, essentially what's going on? Okay, so
So you talked about zero rating already, right? Yeah, so, okay
So right now the bill is that it got passed by like this little subcommittee or something in their State House
okay, so it still has to be passed by both chambers signed into law and all that but
Both chambers and the governor's mansion are currently controlled by Democrats who traditionally have been more friendly towards net neutrality
So we'll see what happens with it. Um, right now is PS are
Unsurprisingly opposing the bill and they also might challenge it in court if it does indeed become law
There are a number of legal arguments. They could use to try to get this scrapped and this is interesting
Not only because California is such a huge state, but since the FCC repeal a few months ago
I think they've gone so far
They've gone further than any other states have and trying to have like a real sort of like comprehensive net neutrality law, right?
so
What I put down here was they might argue on federal preemption or that the bill unduly burdens
What is federal preemption?
So that is when a federal law and a state law come into conflict
Okay, and there's a number of ways that can happen
Obviously there are very clear cases where the federal law says one thing and the state law says exactly the opposite
So you don't need to be a lawyer to understand that but there is also cases where it's a little more subtle this being one
of them so
What happened when the FCC repealed the net neutrality protections a few months back?
They they specifically said we need to return to the light touch regulation of the internet. This is exactly what we're doing
So is it really actually?
Pre-empting anything if in lines, I'm gonna reach over the desk here and steal some more sriracha bacon jerky
I don't blame them. That's if it's delicious, but
But it's good. Yeah, it's okay. Anyway, so
Um
What was I talking about federal preemption like bacon grab, okay, so we just yeah, okay
Well, so they're trying to the SEC is saying they're trying to regulate the internet less give the ISPs a little more leeway
Yeah
But the question here then becomes is there does that mean the federal government is intending to?
In law, they call it occupying the fields does does the federal government
Intend to regulate this area so heavily that the states can't do anything about it
But in their own order, they said we're trying to regulate this less heavily and scrap these net neutrality regulations
So that that would be a very interesting like battle in court. Yeah, okay
Yeah, so they're saying like we we we don't want to regulate this as much but they're aggressively not regulating and trying to make
Sure that no one else can either
Well, I don't know if they're consciously trying to do that
But what I'm saying is like when when a big like ISP takes the state of California to court and says they can't do this
They might try to argue that the federal government has tried to occupy the field somehow
It might not be a great argument, but I expect them to try it
The other thing they might argue is which they might be more successful with is saying the bill unduly burdens interstate commerce
which is which is a which is a constitutional argument, but
Basically, it's so I know right
Yeah, so but the idea is that one state can't
Can't meddle in the affairs of how other states want to conduct commerce between them. So, okay
So like if you're if you're importing like let's use a simpler example, let's say you're importing a bunch of bacon jerky
Let's say the state of North Carolina is importing a bunch of bacon jerky. Um, like from another state or from another kind
Let's see from another state. Okay, um, so
They're actually that would make sense because I think savage jerky is based out of Georgia. So it would be a quick trip
Anyway, so let's say they're reporting a bunch of bacon jerky and they have regulations on bacon
Jerky that bacon jerky bacon jerky bacon jerky bacon jerky
How to summon Linus so anyway
So let's say there's regulations that the state of NC has on bacon jerky
Let's saying that they they can't have but so many preservatives they have to be at least you know
95% B for whatever else right? This is just a random made-up example
Yes, it's a hypothetical. This is not actually real
It's Friday, it's been a long
Anyway, I mean good thing to regulate then so so
let's say they have one set of regulations for
Bacon jerky produced in state and another set for bacon jerky. They're importing from Georgia
So that would be that would be against the Constitution you can't do that
But if the same rules apply to everybody will be okay
Okay, this is a little bit more complicated because I could see AT&T Verizon Comcast
whoever else walking into court and saying
That even though the law because I actually read the law a little bit and it applies to any
ISP that has customers in California, which makes sense, but
They could argue something about oh the internet is so decentralized and because of that
This isn't like just importing a product or whatever and this is placing an undue burden on interstate commerce whether that would win
I have no idea, but I do expect a lengthy court battle. So, okay
There you have it. The internet is not like bacon jerky
Well, thank you, John. This is being the legal corner with John
Thanks, John, yep
Man, the states are weird. Yeah, I know it's trippy. I'll never fully understand how it's like stuff works
52 or like maybe but not 52 because there are also like territories or something and then
50 50 states but then like what is
Yeah, what are the ones that aren't states?
Yeah, Guam Puerto Rico. What are those like called about there and they're all kind of like little countries except that they're one country
sort of
Except when they like want to do things that the the ones running the one country don't like then
Or that they don't like and then I don't know then they can like actually fight about that
Whereas in most other countries, it's just like no this how it works. That works. It's interesting
It's confusing for someone who isn't from there and didn't like grow up in the system. I
Think it's confusing for the people there, too
Google chat. Yeah, the original article here is from Tom's guide
Wow, okay you had a comment that all the the the aloe team was dissolved and brought over here apparently yes
Um, this is not the first time this has happened. Do you think this is the last time?
man, I don't know what to tell you because
The article that I was reading about this
Basically had like a timeline of the whole
experience of of Google and
chat applications going all the way back to I think Google talk was the first one so to give people a little bit of background Google
Chat is a newly proposed thing from Google is set to rival I message and displace SMS
Which is probably the exact same lines that we've had with previous chat applications from Google
But they are taking a different approach this time. So to be clear
This is not Google talk turning into G chat turning into
Then integrated with hey with Google Plus and then turning into hangouts and then
Aloe aloe and the other one in there. Was there another one was the other one at least like two
I remember last time the most confusing thing was that they released to it basically at the same time and they were only marginally different
Yeah
Aloe and like something else
I've had a hard time keeping track of exactly what's been going on and yet like I just I find the whole experience of
of both SMS and chat on Android very frustrating because the feature sets are
Divergent in like little stupid ways. So for example the messages team like, you know, just the default
Vanilla stock Android I shouldn't say vanilla because that might be an Android
Like the stock Android messages app
It's like so back ass words in some ways
Of where like like it doesn't have cloud backup and I'm gonna say you're going what around you to do monetization saying it that way
bass ackwards
So it's like it's so backwards it doesn't even have cloud backup which just blows me away
But that's not completely automatic when I switch from one Android phone to another one. All my SMS messages are gone, but
That team apparently still exists because it must have I don't think it was that long ago
But they looked at how well a lot of people are busy using Facebook Messenger because SMS is sort of trashed by today's standards
And basically the only thing they're using SMS for is verification codes
So when you get your notification for messages, it has mark as red, which is like awesome
So you never have to touch it again. You don't have to click through it to mark it as red
You don't have to if you swipe it away. It doesn't stay unread
Awesome, it is pretty great. Hangouts doesn't have that
Gmail doesn't have that and and pretty much. I mean pretty much any app now is just
notification spam as far as I can tell and so the ability to mark a notification is read when it comes in without
actually opening the notification
Very nice if I can the more I can do in the notification tray the better
Yeah, I can just do everything I need to without even opening anything. That's fantastic. So
Also, the the app I was thinking of was duo which was their video chat thing
So they launched aloe and duo and pretty much the same time and they were both for communicating. Yeah
Okay, but this is not
This is not like
like a new app
That's just another hangouts or aloe replacement or whatever the case may be. This is more of a back-end upgrade. Yeah, so
They're calling it patient services. What is this? Yeah rich communication services
So unlike SMS, it'll support video
It'll have read receipts
it'll support higher res images and
The mobile networks will have to opt in but the idea is that and
You know, that's a funny thing to me. Why do people even care about iMessage that much?
My message is great. What are you talking about? What's great about it? I don't know. It just feels nice
It goes quick. You can tell what phone they have, which is cool. I
Don't know every time I've had an iPhone. I like that message
Right, but did it really make a difference to you one way or the other if the bubble was blue or green?
I mean as some SMS sucks as you know. Mm-hmm. How much better really is Facebook chat?
It's not it's not the only reason I use Facebook chat is so I message is great because it's fine
Yeah, but Facebook chat has a built-in phone book. I don't that's what's useful about Facebook chat
And I don't have everyone on Facebook, right? But if you wanted to find someone that's the point of a phone book
Yeah, I don't want to add Facebook to having access to all my stuff though. You don't have to you
Just you just search Facebook for a person and you're like, oh right that person and you contact them
Like that's what I mean by a phone book not an address book
Okay, like you'd like a directory. So that's the only reason I give
Nefs whatsoever about Facebook
Like people that I like met at badminton once and like want to play with again sometime but I didn't exchange phone numbers with them
Wow, but I remember their name because it'll come up automatically because they'll be friends with a bunch of other badminton people
Okay, so it'll know like if I'm searching for Andy
It'll be like, oh, yeah, probably this Andy even though you don't have them in your contacts. I've never used that
Yeah, it's like super useful or like if there was someone that I don't go aside you ran into at a LAN party or something
It might know from aren't cool anymore. I know I wish they were I would love that
So it might know from their association with other gamers that that's the you know
Tom Smith that you were most likely to be looking for. So it's just it's that's why I use that
That's the only reason I care about that. I message other than an emojis, which is a completely artificial lockdown. Thank you Apple
There's no reason why you couldn't send an emojis as a video clip in your hangouts. For example, they just don't want you to
I don't really get it. What's so amazing about it? Maybe people are telling me in twitch chat
What there's really there's really there isn't much else though group messages on
I message and whatsapp are much better than SMS. Okay, that's fine. But whatsapp has that and you can do that on Facebook Messenger
I messages end-to-end encrypted SMS is open to snooping. My message is much less creepy. Okay, so if you care about that
Then you can be using a third-party
messaging service in
general because I message is just automatically turned on and turned off depending on who the what kind of phone the other person has so
It's like it's it's like only like sometimes running your VPN when you talk to like some people so I don't really get that either
Why don't you just discord that we're talking about privacy stuff?
Okay, yes integration with the desktop experience that is a good one
Facebook Messenger same thing whatsapp same thing
Hangouts same thing
People are like it just works
It kind of does. Yeah, it kind of does but like and I know it's a funny tagline
But it kind of does just sort of work
It just sort of works the way you would expect SMS to but it doesn't know what I mean. So then in a nutshell
chat
It's like a back-end upgrade to SMS that other messaging apps. This is cool. Like Samsung's messaging app will support
Google actually has a fair number of partners signed in signed on for this thing. So
Like I mean, I guess I'm excited and that's cool
but I just
Yeah, I guess that's cool
I don't know. I just I don't feel like I message needed to be something that
Had to be competed with but apparently it does I do and I guess maybe what I'm forgetting is that a
Lot of people like when I message my mom
She doesn't have
Whatsapp or Facebook Messenger even or anything like to her text messages text message
And so if this upgrades the text message experience that normies are probably just using by default because they don't know anything else
Then I guess that's good. But even then we're still not gonna have perfect coverage because they're gonna be relying on
iOS to Android and vice versa to kind of translate to each other
But maybe Apple and Google will find a way to cooperate on that. I'm not sure
I haven't looked into it carefully enough to know if that's yeah. Oh, no. Yeah right here right here in Tom's article
There's no clue as to whether or not Apple will support chat
So there you go. It's apparently less secure than Apple's own service. So might be unlikely
See that. I don't know. It seems pretty secure. It does everything you really need it to do and it works all the time
And it feels smooth and nice. I don't know. I like that message
It was one of the saddest things about leaving an iPhone was I was like, oh, I
Have to go back to like this weird junk. It's just so weird because like
When Lou did that video at CES where he asked a bunch of creators what phone they're actually using a
A couple people I think maybe it was just one. I don't know at least one person brought up iMessage
I'm like all my friends are on iMessage
And so I asked off-camera. I was like, why does that matter? I mean, yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm like, okay
I didn't use it enough to actually know like I don't have an iPhone for very is this just really excellent branding
Because even at a tech content creator and I'm not gonna name who they were but a tech content creator tech tuber
Didn't know why he cared about iMessage
It's just my my whole thing was it was very smooth. It's I'd like the idea of text messages
I like the idea of default apps. I've always liked the idea of default apps. I like default experiences
I like a pixel because it is stock Android
I would love to use the stock Android SMS thing, but it's garbo
I still have to use it kind of because like my upstairs neighbors bless their wonderful souls
use old-school text messages
And it's kind of jank for that
And there are a few other people in my life that I have to use that for I use
Facebook messenger for a lot of my stuff, but that sucks. Not only is it like scraping
Everything it uses a really odd amount of battery life. It's terrible in a lot of other ways got people saying that it's a status symbol
Yes
Okay, that's not why I like it but some people do see it that way if you pop up in the iMessage with be
Like I have an iPhone color
It's like a positive thing. I didn't even remember which one it was. I use it for a very short period of time
I did know that I really liked my iMessage experience. I
texted more people when I was on an iPhone because I had iMessage and
I texted less people when I was on an Android because I didn't have iMessage because the stock texting thing sucks so bad
I used to have something called go SMS Pro like
a long time ago when texting was still really popular because the default Android messaging thing was so garbage
That I got go SMS Pro, but then something happened there. I don't know what it was and they were bad
I think I just hate everyone who has these problems because they clearly have social lives and I don't
You know what? You're the one that needs you're the one that needs the like, you know what at those people the address book
You know what? No in in freaking messenger
Well, I didn't say I used it often so many people out play
I didn't say it was so many that you need to look them up
I can prove to you that it's like three ever actually
Well, I'm at zero, okay
You're winning by a lot speaking of zero
That's how many new products will be developed by Oppo digital. So this was posted on the forum by
Someone Nick the Maginn Nick the major man, whatever that is machine very sad day
Oppo and this is Nick's editorial
Oppo made the best video players on the market with superb build quality and fantastic customer support
Guess the market just wasn't there for the higher-end product
I love my UDP 203 and hate to think that my next player will have to be made of cheap plastic from the likes of
Sony or Samsung so for those of you not
familiar
Oppo was a brand that I already couldn't understand why they existed back in like
2012
2011
So this one I was a product manager back at NCIX and one of my fellow product managers was gonna bring in these
high-end DVD players and blu-ray players
with the argument being that they had sort of fancy upscaling technology and and stuff and
They were they were very expensive and I kind of went are you are you effing kidding me like
DV like high-end DVD players
That's that's kind of like that's kind of like trying to sell premium cassette tapes as far as I'm concerned for which I'm sure there's a market
but oh they're totally in the
Okay, let me come up with something better. How about like I think it's called retro
How about like stylish dad sandals like?
Okay, I would you know what?
Okay, um
Working on this
Okay, so there's a niche for almost anything, but yeah not for this apparently anymore synthwave or new retro wave
They like cassette tapes, okay?
So
We've gotten past the point where anyone or at least enough people to sustain this company care enough about
Fancy upscaling features and better build quality on their physical media players
Now I do still buy blu-rays
Periodically because it is it does look a lot better than streaming
but man
Is blu-ray ever going to get replaced like will there be a successor, or are we just done? I think we're done
Huh I
Mean it's at the point now where it's just people have kind of voted with their vault well
It's they they want cheaper. They don't want higher quality, and it's gotten to the point where I think the cheaper option is so much cheaper
that a
Lot of people don't think it's worth it
so they're still gonna be providing support and doing updates, but I mean
To be fair like a high-end blu-ray player
I think is a little bit harder to explain the value of like a lot of people are gonna
Yeah, go with like their PlayStation. Yeah, or whatever. I sure would built Xbox one ass. Yeah exactly
That's what I'm saying that PlayStation doesn't Oh no blu-ray player in the ps4 Pro, right?
Yeah, but like yeah, they I feel like they would go with
What how to hold on I might be I might have that wrong. Yeah, I played a blu-ray in a ps4 Pro like
Not even a bro. Oh, I might have that wrong. What is the stupid thing ultra HD?
Sorry, that was the stupid thing that I that it didn't have Xbox one s has
Support for 4k blu-ray the ps4 Pro doesn't I was like wait a minute. No no ps3 had blu-ray
Yeah, sorry go ahead pretty confused
But yeah
I think people use an existing device or they would rather go buy
Something that can do a bunch of other stuff and play blu-rays
Instead of something that just plays blu-rays speaking of other things dead
Intel's smart glasses group gone
The glasses they were working on called vaunt looked kind of like normal glasses and used a low-powered laser beam to beam images into the
eye
so either Intel is giving up on AR for a while or
They figured they were never gonna get laser beams into your eye past the regulatory bodies that pay attention to that sort of thing
Which I think honestly both of those options are totally valid
Because I think
How is this not a much more major topic? Well, we're talking about this. Okay, geforce partner program is
Well, we kind of talked about it a little bit last week, but it looks like it's official
Asus has announced the original article here from hot hardware. You weren't here last week a week before I
Don't know. Okay areas areas areas video cards
No, I read the article where it was rumored and I talked about it on one show at some point
Okay, but this is it. It's official
ROG is out for a sus's high-end gaming products that feature AMD
Processors, so this is Ares which is a play on a sus's Ares with an S not a Zed
High-end like dual GPU AMD Radeon cards that were like a limited edition
similar to their Mars ones for Nvidia
So just a summary for those of you who aren't familiar
the program rewards partners with perks including marketing funds special promotions and extra engineering support and
A sus has not gone on the record saying it joined the program
but with the release of Ares it is fairly clear that Republic of gamers will only be used on geforce cards and other products containing an
Nvidia
processor
Intense have you seen this
I've no idea what this is. Oh, yeah, it's
Lame just stupid marketing chunk. Um, so yeah speaking of stupid marketing junk
That's it for the run show. Yeah, the marketing junk show. No
There's more to it than that. I ate jerky for half of this show. Yeah, I was gonna say we eat
Stuff they don't pay extra for that though and drink some water. It's just yummy. Yep
Cool, so let's see you again next week. Same bad time. Say that channel. Bye. I
Don't know what it is, but like I didn't even check the time but it's been like exactly an hour
and it's just something about
The Wancho that takes exactly an hour. I
I think part of it honestly is James has written so many dogs now. No, John Hopkins. Oh, yeah
Forgot full plane dang it. No, come back. We're no we're going back. Yeah, I'm back coming back
Like that after party but not after it's like a post party, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say that
We didn't because we technically talked about at the beginning of the show, but we didn't highlight the cool things that are on it
So we also did
There we go. Oh, dang it. I would probably yep. Just a sec. There we go. Hey, we're still here
Didn't stop and start right? Like we're just still going nice. My fingers are really
Jerky though. Oh, I'm not making it much better by licking them and then wiping them on my pants. Oh
Um, yeah, yes AJ you completely saved the day good job
All right, let's see if I also I noticed that you logged on to
battlegrounds at
2.58 local time so
We're gonna need to talk on Monday, but thank you for saving the day. I appreciate it
Okay, then
Ah screen sharing with Linus
Let's go ahead and put that there
So what do we have up there? Oh, this is a
Tech wiki that is actually a very unusual looking thumbnail for a tech wiki video
Interesting. That's an unusual looking host for a tech wiki video
Actually, John's done a lot of the hosting on tech wiki lately and the reception has been really good
Let's go ahead and go back
See how that he's just happy that site isn't that beautiful? Hey, here's our we're hiring video in case Colton gets fired
You can't really tell but he's like cowering. It's great. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty wonderful
This went up simultaneously because there was an embargo super no one cared. Hey about rising to really
Yeah, it was like it was not only not like a big momentum spike for the channel, but it was like
Devastating down. Oh, yeah, it like crushed the channel
Um
This one is gonna blow up on YouTube faster internet for free in 30 seconds, and it works
Do you know about cloud flares DNS? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so we basically just show people how to change their DNS to a faster
Okay
No, that's cool. That's cool. That's cool
I might say snap here. Well, you know, you know, you know what?
I
I
won't I
Won't destroy my principles, but I won't compromise my principles, but I might I might be flexible
sometimes
Technically you might be I don't I don't think it's too brutal. I don't think this is far. Yeah, it's fine
Self-driving car levels explained that's another fast as possible. That's cool
It's really cool because a lot of people don't realize that there's I think six levels something like that six levels like level
Four is not actually the end. Yeah
So that's really cool. The ThinkPad x1 carbon review is up. Oh, I don't know
I don't know how much Intel is gonna like this video
Xeon w is basically
That's fun core i9 with ECC. And by the way, here's pay another $700, please
But it's it's still worth watching the video we go into it in more detail
This video ended up being like pretty brutal
I was thinking it was just gonna be me and Dennis kind of like racing to build a PC
Instead it was Dennis trying to build a PC at all
This video is actually fantastic also AJ I know I'm just yanking your chain. We we really mixed things up a little bit. Oh my
So we would kind of like
So I'm baking I'm baking a laptop cake. That's kind of the idea behind it. Oh
And these are all the things you want in a you know, yeah, okay
And so the point that we're making is they went really far with this just cuz you have the right
Ingredients doesn't mean that you actually make a delicious cake Wow, you might get a couple things wrong, you know brutal
So we've got the magic transition there that being that beautiful
Alex actually went and had a custom cake made for this video Dell XPS 2018
And we're gonna leave it there
Okay, I haven't seen that I need to see that
That's pretty good. We've got the wearable keyboard and mouse. Yes
Yeah, so it's a both a keyboard and a mouse and it just fits on your hand like that
I think we're getting into our and I think that's I think yeah, that's getting into the stuff that's already released now, I think yep
Also Kyle's on the platform. Yeah
So he's got that probably went up on the embargo, oh wow, oh
Yeah, okay. I that's not fake. No, it's not that's real coolant. It is. That's a problem. Yeah
So at some point we're gonna get this new button fixed so that you can tell the difference between stuff
That's just everything new. Everything is new. Everything ever upload is new. Everything is new. It's a new website
Um new thumbnail, but genuinely there are some new things over on flow play
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