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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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are you ready are you ready for the show are you it's good how's we live oh that whole time
no no no just no just now i've been saying are are you ready for for a while it's not like an
impression or anything it's just like uh oh i thought you said it you said it so many times
that i just assumed it was something i didn't get i thought it was like muppets or something
no no no no no no if i was going to do muppets i'd probably go like full committee frog here
maybe we're going to do the man show like this oh that's a great jordan peterson impression jordan
peterson i don't even know who that is is that a reference that i should get is he famous yeah
or she i guess jordan's one of those names that can go either way uh all right so we've got a
great show for you guys today um well i mean james is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys
today uh we've got new google glasses to something it's evga is apparently ditching cds next week
a mop just we don't actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom a brew we didn't have a
mop we had a broom handle with a wig on it almost as good uh a dozen employees quit google in
protest against a military project and what else we got possibly new google glasses it's still
prototype phase and evga not giving you dvds anymore gonna give you usb sticks instead wait
how do you not have the youtube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this week i go
to our forum i look what's on the front page of the forum then when i exhaust the forum i go to
my other favorite ours tech crunch the verge bloomberg that must be on there it's not okay
well we're going to talk about that too you're going to wing it and i'm going to sit back and
just take it in you're just you're just talking over the music it's good it's terrible no it's
good no it's terrible people hate it no they love it no they have you ever watched you ever not been
on the wancho and watched it because i lived my life before i worked here doing that and i liked
it i liked when you guys talked during that pia i think you were the only one oh yeah we probably
should have had that on the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it
when we talk over the intro music on the wan show and that's so that's disqualifying if you like it
so here's the thing when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill testing quiz and there are
answers that if you get them wrong your application gets immediately put into a game this guy likes
the matrix sequels it's i did i did like that actually would what okay i was younger i was
younger than you when they came out for one and it might only be three years but that makes a
difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no they were so bad they should okay
they're they're different they're they're different okay what were they were there two
sequels or three sequels well there are three movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a
second so reloaded and revolutions both came out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two weird
twins yes well they're in both movies okay so don't take this the wrong way but i didn't even
make it through the second one let alone watch the third one which i heard was much worse the
third one is worse okay you're throwing the baby out with the bath water because yes you hear me
out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases in cinema history kick-ass
fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that aren't just the like counterculture and cool story
there's parts of it that make it a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography
choreography choreography are sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the
photography good too the photography what about the cinematography you know the cinematic well
i can't even do that one i had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a
pile of cg agent smith's that looks like dog junk now but that was good when it came out it was
cutting edge oh lordy um so okay i'll admit that watching that then i didn't get that because okay
honestly the worst the worst instances of like cgi aging badly and it really taking you out of
the experience are when you see the evolution of computer graphics over the course of a series of
movies yeah okay so i think like lord of the rings did a pretty good job of this where even though
the movies were released years apart at the same time did they film all i believe they would have
done the like post-processing later though like i know for a fact that scene in return of the king
where they're like surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff i know for a fact that was
done like towards the end and that scene probably wouldn't have even been possible with the computer
hardware that was available when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding thing
because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary ai or something so i
heard they i remember reading this article where they had a really hard time getting the the heroes
to not like try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay
inside this ring oh i see because they because there were like self-preservation things anyway
apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale uh like overviews of
the battlefield anyway um so one of the series that really suffered from this for me is uh oh
oh oh oh oh people are people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the re and the matrix
1999 people um uh people are mad because we're not talking about tech okay we are talking about
technology and movies technically that is tech also like the venn diagram is almost completely
overlapped with this audience and lord of the rings and these movies like how can you anyway
anyway okay so uh where was i going with this right the harry potter movies because not only
were the first two and especially the first one done for sure like before the later ones because
obviously that's how it works um except star wars so okay that's a thing uh shut up not only that
but they were way lower budget like you can really tell looking at them you're like oh wow they like
weren't even really trying with some of this stuff i remember being a child and seeing the first one
and thinking the it was pretty good me too that troll came on screen but like if it's cutting
edge for the time than the second one but oh wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one
yeah so so yeah it was no no i don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was
like pretty good so they were lower budget they were done earlier and i went back and re-watched
the entire thing because they had like a box at costco with the whole thing and i bought
it because i'm an idiot um and i was like wow these are kids movies and then prisoner of
azkaban rolls around you're like oh yeah now that's one yeah now they're like real movies
all of a sudden um so do you think they should do a re-release like they did with star wars where
they up like remaster it make the graphics better you know what because aside from daniel ratcliffe
emma whatever her name is watson thank you and then redhead guy whatever yeah i don't know
universal jinch the most famous ginger ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something
well yeah i heard he like got out of show business and he just wanted to like drive a bus that'd be
sweet yeah daniel de luis moved to italy for like five years just to make shoes at one point yeah
anyway um because aside from their acting getting markedly better also like you could probably you
could you could re-cgi it i think you could actually make it a significantly more immersive
movie we should get george lucas on it he should be on the team just oversee it you know he's got
experience in this he's does a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects
anyway back to agent smith um i will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me out of
the movie like i felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like he's fighting a bunch
of agent smiths that was still a terrible movie well that's the thing is a lot of people the
immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he fought a bunch of
agents oh i was actually okay with that because i was also a kid okay yeah no it was that's like
far from the worst part of that movie it was just what is the worst part is it when he has powers
outside of the matrix at the end spoiler uh because that's i think like the biggest division between
the first one of the sequels i you know what i'm gonna be honest with you i don't remember it well
enough i just remember it being freaky you're just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should
watch again i the car chase okay look i watched the first one again like a couple years ago last
weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome no it's not good moving on no it is so bad like there's
no way i would like the second one if the first one has aged that poorly it's so cheesy the
leather like the leather is not cool anymore no no it's not and the worst part is that like i've
seen kiano kiano kianu actually act reasonably well i'm sure of it can't recall it right now
can you say whoa as good as he says whoa in that movie now i feel like i have to try
i just i just jumped i just jumped from the building we're standing on to another
skyscraper across the way whoa that wasn't bad that wasn't bad what a dick
you know what you remind me of this pickle ad that i'm looking at you know what that's you
an angry green dick right there that's you which one left or right uh you know what you're the
shorter one huh there a little bit a little girthier though take that all right all right
why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so uh the verge has an article here on a
reported new google glass it'll be an ar headset and oh wow i was gonna say it looks just as bad
no no that's not the original i wouldn't wait no that's i hesitate to even call it a new google
glass because i suspect that they're going to change it all together that probably wouldn't
be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to look like a complete jackass wearing that thing
yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with the things that they they
thought were highlights they thought it was so good that the camera was up and out of your eye
site you had to look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera and the screen but i mean
the screen you're right um but that makes it so useless because what you want is like a mixed
reality you want all the digital stuff to be right there superimposed that's what they're doing with
this one it's more like hololens okay but it's untethered self-contained it'll have cameras and
microphones and it'll use the same new qualcum chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a qsc 603
4 core chip based on an arm architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta
and is apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it right now i think so
i think that's that's basically i would say it's probably on the same bit of production cycle as
the the rumored apple what's it called project titan their glasses hmm whose do you think will
be better because google will have a much better ai i mean siri i swear siri has actually gotten
dumber over the last few years like i would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware
product and their ar their ar kit ar stuff is quite good but it will certainly be tethered with
the iphone because apple now makes products to squeeze more money out of iphone users whereas
this being purportedly untethered like i'm reading that as completely standalone device you don't
even think to have a phone if that's true then it has the assistant on it to be useful right
and that's a whole different game that's the apples and oranges at that point
man i don't even like i don't i'm just trying to hear okay here's my issue with augmented reality
is like you know what i actually this is unusual but i want to hear from twitch chat
i want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat let me know
what and you can't you can't hedge you can't hedge okay you gotta pick one what is one thing
that you want ar glasses to do that would make you buy and i'm gonna throw a price point at you
i let's say they're not cheap i'm gonna say 500 us dollars oh i thought you're gonna say a thousand
no 500 i think 500 is reasonable so 500 us dollars and you pull the trigger immediately
what's the feature go so are you ready with one because i i've got one if you want to you go you
let me go first okay so for me one of the things that i have like i can't think of anything
personally that would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much
revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen and i've i don't find myself having a
desire to overlay information on top of a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing i
get up in the morning i like check the news on my phone i ate my breakfast i take my kids to school
i drive so i'm driving then i get to work i sit down in front of my computer or i'm shooting in
which case i'll have my phone with me if i need to like send out a quick tweet or whatever something
you won't be able to do with glasses anyway then i drive home then i spend time with my kids then
i am on a screen or or not on a screen ideally that that's it so i'm never that far away if i
like really need to you know look something up and i've smart watch too of course for me
the justification would be business okay so when i'm traveling if i had the ability to be at like
a um some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if i walked into a business meeting um or like
the suite at computex for asus and this thing starts recognizing people that are on my social
networks so then all i have to do is like add people to facebook or linkedin yes there's an
app that does something like that yeah okay but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it
needs to be able to go okay here's their name here's uh a couple things about them here's the
last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to be able to aggregate
all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing situations where like i'm like yeah it was really
nice to meet you and they're like we've had three meetings over the last you know eight years and
i'm just like well that's enough meetings that i should feel really bad but in my defense when i
go to these types of shows i usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500 people in a span of a week and i'm
sorry but unless you you have like bright orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the
other side i'm probably not going to remember you that's how max got hired by the way she was the
most memorable applicant no i'm just kidding i actually wasn't involved in the process what you're
describing sounds to me like what the facebook app for that form factor would be yeah and it's
consistent with google's ultimate vision which is not only like here can i jump it because these are
these are going away too quickly can i jump in with some other people's things uh sorry hold
hold that so oh man some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of
your smartphone and smartwatch input there's no the input yeah i don't think that makes any sense
okay google maps with ar yeah i can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation
is just right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks you'd buy it for that like
how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if i was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's
a professional use though um google search info i don't okay wow holy crap this is respect women
way too fast if this device respected women i'd buy it like that dash cam feature like shadowplay
being able to go back and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an
episode of dark mirror like that or black mirror you don't want that yeah i could see it being
useful but it's also a big problem when does that oh wow relationship status i could see a lot of
people buying it for that that would be sweet like if basically like the the tinder app for that form
factor you walk around it's like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay imagine like real
world tinder people walking around with these headsets just like oh wow and you could swipe
with your head so you just look at people and be like no yeah nope nope like you're walking up to
someone you see them there's a thing over your head you both know the others on tinder they're
looking at you going like this you're like no like you make eye contact across the room and you're
both just like yeah oh yeah um a lot of people are saying what a desk though nope a lot of people
are saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be walking around with like a raging
erection because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the point of that
like i know i know okay so here's the thing it's like i think most people are probably just saying
that to be funny but i'm sure at least a handful of you i'm sure at least a handful of you will
legitimately would watch porn on a plane or on a bus or whatever if you could and to those people
i would say really like really like i i think i think you know what i think i'm not gonna get
into imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you could get where like
someone's talking to you and you just see objects around their head like okay wangs coming at you
wangs around linus viewing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like if
you could have whatever you're working on and then you could just like have a picture in picture
effectively over your vision of of like a manual or something along those lines that's actually
what i would pick what i would pick is a collaborative uh like virtual object app where
you and i could sit we could be having a conversation you have an idea you want to describe
the idea to me instead of using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and then you rotate
it and it tracks your hand so you can manipulate it aristaca has another commercial purpose if you
worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and asks you a question about like that used car
like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it all of a sudden you
could just be like bippity boppity sir i've got all those answers for you give me one minute i
just have to stare at the car for a second yeah hold on hold on yeah okay it's all loaded all
right so here's what we got for you i mean i can see that again another professional application
so i see this being a professional device initially much like hololens but that's
consistent with google's it's google lens right google's ultimate aim was to bring information
to you before you query it you don't even have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's
what lens is if you looked at google io last week they had demos where you're you're basically
walking around chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes the wikipedia page for
it and it's an ar so it's got the nice depth to it that's that's exactly what you're talking about
you look at an object of relevance to you and like that yeah but i guess i guess i just you know i'm
not much of a like information about this building buff like for me okay you walk by a restaurant
yeah that kind of looks okay and then there's the four star rating the reviews okay that would
be useful but here's the problem it has to actually work like i was in london this week and i'm i'm
i'm i'm standing where i'm standing i got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it
thinks i'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a yeah come on baby bah like i agree with
you yeah it's not accurate at all um and i searched for food which i would think would
bring up restaurants or restaurant or whatever i searched for something and it just it's just
random like like i walked past an italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good
rating when i like manually searched for it on my way to the italian restaurant that it brought up
in the search result i'm just kind of sitting here going italian was right in the name and it
was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like it just seems arbitrary
as sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me to for google to come out and say we're going to
have this amazing technology your phone is going to call your hairstylist and make an appointment
for you you're going to put on these glasses and they're going to dynamically tell you everything
you need to know about everything you're looking at when they don't even have the basic stuff
working right now italian freaking restaurant oh there's a problem right there handle that
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i actually didn't want pizza i just wanted anything that my wife would also eat that's
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didn't put icing because when you have ice in your water bottle you drink it weird you can
tort your mouth so that the ice doesn't come out i just don't like the way your face looks when
you do it i don't like warm water though it's not warm you know what just just for you i'm
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we no no no it would be like linus i or something no oh yeah nexus or line i would be like line i
nexus like like like penis is peni that's true you have a point there uh evj ditches cds for
usb sticks this was originally posted on the forum by vegetable stew and the original i love that
guy's name by the way is from yeah it's stu what um yeah vegetable yeah okay stew like it's his
name his name is stew dang it and on tech how do i get rid of this thank you uh so this is actually
something i asked you i asked you as a noob i was like why are they giving discs when i don't i and
everyone else doesn't have yeah drink it doesn't have a dvd player anymore and you told me it's
because it's way more expensive to give away flash drives and evj actually confirmed that even though
evj is ditching dvds for their all the drivers and giving you an eight gigabyte flash drive instead
they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive to give you a flash drive they're still
doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like because how much does i think i think a disc costs
like on the order of like three cents or something like that like i like basically it's probably
costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said evga has a bit of an advantage here
compared to other motherboard makers because they don't really make any entry-level boards so every
motherboard that they sell will have enough margin in it that they could probably afford to throw in
a usb drive and there have been high-end boards before that came with usb drives yeah they're not
the first to do it that's freaking awesome though especially because flash like nand flash has
gotten to the point where it's not any more cost effective to make like a a one gig usb drive than
it is to do an eight gig usb drive like eight gigs is the size they start at so that's what evga is
providing and what's cool about that is eight gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to
use it for um an inside install iso a dvd iso oh i thought you're gonna say two blu-rays no because
it's not enough for that uh blue there's like four gigs no dvds four gigs blu-rays are like 40 what
dvds were like 700 megabytes no that's cds cds are 650 or 700 dvds are 4.7 and then blu-rays are like
40 and 80 like they go they go up much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when i
used to be a scumbag who torrented movies they were always about 700 megabytes yeah that's
because they were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like you yeah who were too cheap
not only to buy movies but also to pay for more internet download definitely yep didn't go over
their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50 eight gigs okay yeah um well you can put some word
documents on it how about that uh wait eight gigs no you can put a dvd you can put an iso on it
that's what i'm trying to say so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer
which is of course nonsense i think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing
of their current generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb
cost the bill of materials for their next generation that they won't consider that that's
another two or three dollars this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time um okay this
was originally posted over on gizmodo um it was posted on the forum by pyri pyri pyri i think and
dozens of employees have quit google in protest against a military project what is this project
maven okay wait a second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry a dozen so far
so project maven is a project that google's working on in collaboration project they called
it project maven and it's a project it's an undertaking wow okay you do it do tell me more
no no actually you have to do it because i'm checking on notes on the youtube premium thing
that you didn't put in here despite protests from employees why would an employee ever protest
google is charging ahead with the department of defense collaboration to produce machine learning
software for american military drones project maven aims to speed up the analysis of drone
footage by automatically classifying images of objects and people and now a dozen people
google employees are resigning in protest over the company's continued involvement and this is
in addition to about 4 000 employees who have voiced concern in a petition that was circulated
internally yeah so basically project maven is a way of using ai to produce a machine learning
software to identify targets in for and it okay it doesn't say explicitly but the the assumption
so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the technology is going to be used to
identify targets for drone strikes is ultimately what people are mostly upset about uh google has
emphasized the google claims it is only providing open source software to project maven which means
that it's able to still use the technology even if google didn't accept payment or offer technical
assistant and they have emphasized that its ai is not being used to kill the technology is used to
flag images for human review and is intended to save lives and save people from having to do
highly tedious work and of course i mean you could see that the objections to this their mission
statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their documentation
as far as i know but it's still baked into the company ethos and a lot of people who work there
it's possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement when you
were hired and for a large part of your career second part of it is that google it's been argued
that google has is mandated to protect all of its users and they have a global user base so
this is this project serves the interests of the u.s and the weaponry that's developed from it
could be used to harm google users who are not in the u.s right so where does their responsibility
lie this is great frontal on the uh in twitch chat deciding whether or not to kill someone
equals highly tedious work oh dang so there are other american companies major tech companies
including ibm and amazon that have refused to work with the u.s defense department
but the counter argument i don't think you read that correctly sorry what's that in addition to
the petition circulating inside google the whole launch petition sorry there was another petition
that tried to get other companies like ibm and amazon and to work together to refuse to work
with the u.s defense department so the counter argument to that is like well don't you want
don't you want the unite don't you want america to you know keep up with you know other countries
like you know it is it's like do you think that the engineers at baidu are quitting because they
don't want to do defense contracts with the chinese government do you think that's happening
the engineers at yandex and russia do you want the u.s to be overpowered by other nations that
that get this kind of work done from the private sector well private sector i mean what do you
is baidu private sector technically i don't know uh well that's the other thing what happens to
you if you protest i don't not even go in there so if it's going to be happening anyway then
who do you want to hold this kind of technology
um i could see why you wouldn't want to be the one working on it but you should probably
understand that when you walk away there's another engineer who's gonna work on it and if that
engine and then if that engine is not a google that engine will be either from a different
company in the u.s or another company in different country but i do apparently not state-owned as of
this article from 2015 i don't know if it's uh i don't know if that's up to date but i was just
curious oh that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all right all right let's go
that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all right um all right so let's move on then
to youtube complete dogs breakfast um uh sorry excuse me uh youtube premium so the original
article here is from the verge and basically so how much do you know about youtube red
very little okay so right now um
okay i'm just trying to i'm trying to remember what youtube music is
oh yeah you're right crap what is youtube music oh google always does this i know it's so
frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so google so okay so on the play store
you can like get music okay but i think uh trying to remember all the different like whatever let's
just go with how it was up until now so google play music lets you stream music and like download
music to your device okay it's like i forget it's like ten dollars a month or eight dollars a month
or 15 for the family but those are Canadian so i have the family plan um and yeah i have the
family plan um and yeah i pay like fifteen dollars Canadian or sixteen dollars Canadian or something
like that okay so then for a few us dollars more than google play music you can get youtube red
which strips the ads out of youtube videos that is the like the google supplied the adsense supplied
ads and and gives you access to google play music it also gives you additional benefits within the
ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in your pocket is this
how it works now because i thought before it was like if you bought google play music you just got
youtube red and i think it was the other way around and i was no because i got music and i
was super stoked on that and then i found out that wasn't in the that was not in Canada this whole
thing has been so messy okay let's just let's just let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all
right so so youtube red is gone apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding
you idiots right yeah i know i know right how could they have possibly red tube has been around
since like 2007 or something like that no something like that look at him look at him
covering covering himself because youtube itself came out in 2007 so red tube must have been no
youtube was 2005 let's find out um okay so youtube red is being replaced sort of by youtube premium
which gives you ad-free music the ability to listen in the background you're correct and
downloads as well as ad-free video the ability to play in the background this is cool downloads on
youtube videos so you will now be able to load up youtube videos on your phone before a flight or
whatever slash not have to use one of those ripping tools when i want to rip something off
um sweet i can finally get them in their native you mean compensate the artist is that that what
you mean anyway um also all youtube originals so youtube red originals or whatever they were
calling those are now just called youtube originals and then youtube music premium
for just two dollars less so this is like a pretty terrible deal as far as i can tell just gives you
ad-free music so other other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and
download music specifically and then how google play music figures into all this i can't remember
yes right if you have a google play music subscription you get youtube music as part of
that membership play music is not going away yet but um it'll be hard play music god damn what's
that in other news youtube premium is finally coming to canada so i plan to get it immediately
because i am so tired editors can rip off i am so tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because
youtube forces me to break their own terms of service every day because you are you are not
allowed according to google's terms of service to watch your own ads or interact with your own ads
because it inflates your viewership numbers it's like being an amazon affiliate and sending
getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you can't do that
you can't no i can't be like hey guys i here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all my friends
and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that oh oh i see what you mean
okay well it's a little it's i think it's a little bit different from that because it's like actually
like it's it's it's it amounts to it's like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where
written websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like just click on their
own ads all day yeah so that they could get a bunch of money but but no one ever actually
looked at that so anytime i watch a video like an unskippable video unskippable ads for example
might show up and then i sit through it i have effectively fraudulently given an impression to
that video don't they know the ip of the uploader but if they know that and no it's a little more
complicated than that because i could be using a different device but we're talking when i'm logged
in so i've been asking google for this for ages when i'm logged in don't serve an ad on my video
but they cannot figure this out or they just don't care that's the second one is the more likely one
so finally i won't have to break google's terms of service just by being a youtuber and that's
wonderful that makes my heart fuzzy um they're like stop we all know you use ad blocker no i don't
um all right so what else what else do we have today do we have anything interesting
oh oh yeah okay so for anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe asus really wanted to do
the areas brand um no they did not they as of now now that uh now that uh gforest partner program
is officially dead arez is gone rog is back so that's good glad that's all behind us conclusive
yeah do you think there's gonna are there any errors uh cards out there this could be like a
larrabee thing if we can get our hands on one that'd be cool i don't think so i mean if there's
an employee out there raz one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that um all right
according to wccf texas is supposed to buy black gupp on the forum we've got rumors of a gtx
his name was 170 black gupp no it's buck up it's buck up oh why oh buck up you need to buck up
sorry black gupp look i come from a home covered in black gupp i come from eight time zones away
right now i landed back in this country like 24 hours ago okay people who are still in that time
zone feel so according to the leaks the gtx 1170 will be powered by a 104 class gpu code named
gt 104 what would t be so it's not volta what uh was it um oh i don't remember what the rumored
t code name was going to be it'll be approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip
okay 2688 CUDA cores 256-bit gddr6 memory interface 8 to 16 gigs of gdr6 memory well that's
good that it has an interface that matches the amount of or the the type of memory it's rumored
to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that much right uh clocks of 1.5 to 1.8
gigahertz depending on boost um so this would put it in the same league as the existing gtx 1080 ti
so once again if you invested huh invested because of crypto haha uh if you invested not invested if
you plunked down the money for a top tier card a top tier ti card you are once again going to have
to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant upgrade from nvidia so we've seen
this a lot of times now where the gtx 680 ti was the last time they uh was it the 680 ti
i yeah but wait gtx 16 no they never did a 680 ti so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation
and then in the next gen there was a 770 that was exactly the same thing and then
780 maybe it's 700 series that i'm thinking of so 700 series
yeah then you got a 980 that didn't then the 980 ti didn't come till later that's right
so 780 ti was very similar in performance to the gtx 980 so when the 900 series rolled around if
you had a top tier card there was basically no upgrade for you until the 980 ti came or the uh
yeah the 980 ti came quite some time later then a 980 ti was actually quite similar to a 1070 or
1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until the 1080 ti came quite a bit later so you
actually have to kind of wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you
bought the top tier card from last time around so if that combined with the fact that the 10
series launched like when did the 10 series launch so gtx 10 when did the 1080 ti launch let's find
out the ti yeah um so that was back in march of 2017 so it's been a full year you will still have
no upgrade path from that so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who
bought 1080s or before so that was way back in may 2016 people who bought 1080s and who've been
waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier and we don't actually don't even know
anything about pricing because while the crypto no there is one there is one tidbit about the
pricing here oh okay it's gonna cost more than it did last generation oh 500 bucks sure that's
that's what is being guessed apparently for the 1170 specifically all right and that's a super
rumor that's just like whispers around the industry indicate yeah nvidia has been known to
mislead people like i still remember there was a launch it might have been the 580 or something
like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before and like no one knew their
own partners buy a lot about like 20 bucks like by a hundred dollars or something that was pretty
significant up or down um down yeah yeah can't complain though right yeah that's old news though
nvidia like surprising the industry with great pricing that's not the thing anymore uh sc2 mitch
posted this one on the forum this was uh originally posted on inside games dot biz and i gotta say
this shouldn't surprise me but it does it shouldn't because it's been on the wan show before
well whatever i probably skipped it because i was like oh that's boring so the ioc is to host an
e-sports summit in whatever however you pronounce that lausanne lausanne in july there's supposed to
be a french speaker oh is it french since witzerland all right so basically this is just
to continue the organization's dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one-day meeting
um and in due course approach the stakeholders of the olympic movement again never gonna happen man
e-sports will never be in the olympics and i argue that they don't belong in the olympics i'm not
gonna disagree with you i'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here because i don't think it
makes a ton of sense but with that said there is stuff in the olympics that i don't necessarily
think belongs in the olympics sure sure there's there's i mean here you know what let's bring up
the full list speed walking and stuff i mean the stuff's hard but the point is that it's athletic
the way i look at it is in athletics there's something you intend to do there's an action
you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and then because your body it has crappy
tolerances even though you want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just can't do it but
in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to move right there you click there and
they move there so i think the fact that there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control
over on your own body that's what really separates i mean you could make the argument that moving the
mouse very precisely is a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game and
not the whole game there are actually a lot fewer olympic events than i thought actually most of
these aren't that stupid that's winter though no no i got both of them okay okay handball are you
gonna put on the screen really handball handball is huge in europe man there's a bunch of people
yelling at you right now huge and it's pretty ba too all right well then fine so so is there
is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb football the guy's kicking the buzz
doesn't make any sense joking joking terrible equestrian that's kind of weird what is dressage
a dressage it's like uh fancy walking on horses it's but again this is like the horse i guess
there's skill in training a horse and i i'm sure there's skill as a rider but you're telling me
that if your rider gets hurt that day and you still got the good horse you're not going to
send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win i don't know anything about this
sport okay here's another angle that john martin here the writer of tech quickie told me when we
discussed this all those months ago or maybe there's someone on the forum they basically said
an interesting angle is the fact that video games are commercial products so you're going to go on
to the olympics and you're going to broadcast something that blizzard owns or something for
example so you think there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the ioc wanting
to be paid ultimately maybe that someone wanting to get paid or at least it being free advertising
right it's bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to do
anything they said killer games but the guy has a has an accent so but violent games and that's
and that's like half the games half the comp like the competitive ones especially yeah like what
what games are competitive that don't involve killing i mean i guess like dota is a lot better
than call of duty okay yeah okay it's like cartoony or something but that's a fair point
like you're not gonna watch erect or something you're not gonna watch civilization six in the olympics
yeah i mean all right they're games they're not sports i don't want to see them there oh man so
they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport then why is it a
game what why not well like shooting a target like it's super physical like archery where's
where's your argument that it's not well you okay games are in the mind you think games are in the
mind they're in the mind chess is a quintessential game you you compute what you want to happen and
the the action of carrying out that task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there
that's not the hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game
in sports it's the carrying out of the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the
ball across the line it's doing that as hard i would argue that i would argue that video games
in between though i agree like i agree it's a gray area i agree with that but you say it'll
never happen i think they're way closer to the game end i'm sure twitch chat is hitting us up
with some games that aren't uh that don't have killing okay rocket league i can't rocket league
is just soccer yeah i can't imagine watching rocket league like in the olympics i just i like
it oh man i i just i have a hard time like it's such a ridiculous concept i think the like these
cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball into a thing like i just you
know what you're hitting on right now is the level of abstraction with video games compared
to the real sports because what happens everyone has the common experience when the olympics come
on street fighter okay super smash there's another one that'd be great street fighter
and smash okay okay the Olympics come on you've never watched pole vaulting in your life you've
never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just instantly get it you
can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that was amazing yeah that will never happen
with esports someone puts on a starcraft 2 match you don't know that they have all these battle
cruises you're just like oh that guy has ships okay like it's too abstracted from a visceral
feeling that we can all share yeah i agree with you i think it's far more likely that they'll just
form make their own olympics i agree with blackjack they should have that and you know
well we all know friends line yeah from close friends that you pay to hang out with you
employees hey friends of the night got those i'm out of here all right so uh i think that's
pretty much it for the wan show today we will see you guys again next week same bat time same bat
channel let's roll that no guarantee on the time don't talk on i'm gonna talk don't talk during
never gonna no no no i'm can sing on the intro
all right fine never gonna turn around deserve you
how weird is that guy's voice though
oh yeah this guy was talking to me i gotta put this thing
that one yeah and that one and that one
bye bye